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help dual recoveries on epic

I have clockwork 3 installed on my wives phones and installed rom manager and try to flash back to cwm2 version and now the phones boots will go into both occaisonally. How do I remove the cw2 version?

jj22ee said:
I have clockwork 3 installed on my wives phones and installed rom manager and try to flash back to cwm2 version and now the phones boots will go into both occaisonally. How do I remove the cw2 version?
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Wives phones? What're you a mormon? (never see that on those commercials)...
Seriously no offense to you or mormons.
I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that you need to post this in the Q&A section
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jj22ee said:
I have clockwork 3 installed on my wives phones and installed rom manager and try to flash back to cwm2 version and now the phones boots will go into both occaisonally. How do I remove the cw2 version?
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I believe this is correct, someone correct me if I am wrong. If you boot into recovery using quickboot or the vol dn+camera+power it should boot into CWM3. If you go into recovery through Rom Manager then it should boot into CWM2.5 since you have it installed. Really there shouldn't be a need to remove the old version of CWM. Just use the proper boot method to boot into the version of CWM you need for what ever you are doing. Note that most 2.5 zips will fail once 3.0 is installed. Thinking that about the only think that will work in 2.5 are the journal mods.

Thanks sorry wrong place to post thanks for the info.
But really funny about the whole mormon thing. Mormons can't like cell phones too jack ass
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Freaking Clockworkmod: got me again.

Oh, CWM, how MUCH I can't stand thee:
Anyway, here's a long version:
I can't stand using CWM for recovery.
(I initially had an OG Evo, and it was nothing but a headache, so I always used AmonRa, successfully, and use that or TWRP on my ALL my other devices, where I can...
I'very made other posts about its issues, and have gotten into it with Koush online before about all the problems with it, and how he just let's so many versions out into the wild that aren't working for different phones...
With the ET4G, I kinda had to use it, and was able to flash a working version thru Odin.
Whatever, I was able to use it.
Lately, Koush releases a touchscreen version, there are stories about it all over the web: so I go into Rom Manager to check it out:
It tells me that it's not yet compatible with the ET4G, but that my version of CWM is outdated, so I should flash a newer CWM....
LIKE AN IDIOT, I agreed.
Now, just when I finally have a chance to flash CM9 on my ET4G, after waiting SOOOOO long?
I can't.
Because now, my recovery's totally borked.
I can't even get my phone to do anything but bootloop the CM7 animation, and download mode is the only thing I can get into.
Now, I'm gonna have to spend all this time today fixing what shouldn't be messed up in the first place instead of enjoying CM9 like I should be doing.
(BTW: Koush, if you're listening: this will be the last time for sure I ever fall for that again.)
Yeah, I'm mad, Bro.
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I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.

_MetalHead_ said:
Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Methinks you are a wise and gracious man with your help......

_MetalHead_ said:
I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Oh, yeah: I can fix it, but my wife has my laptop till like 7pm, and I really don't wanna mess with drivers, Odin, all, that stuff on my desktop. I keep all my Android stuff on one PC (laptop) and I like having ADB, drivers, all that stuff, in one place...Just kinda threw a rock into my chain, on today of all days...
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Edit: And, yeah, I knew that used to be the case with CWM (needed kernel flash), but when a known high-level dev is telling me basically, that "this updated version will work for that very specific Android device that you have", and that "I can use his app to flash it", I guess I wanted to believe him...
Eff that guy: He needs to spend less time stacking his money, and more time having some accountability for what he releases to the public.
/End rant.

So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.

Bielinsk said:
So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.
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?
How much magic does it take to remove the ET4G from Rom Manager's compatability list?
I'd bet not too much: In fact, I'd bet I could learn that trick in one short weekend.
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If you're still rooted Mobil odin

Nandroid hardly ever works for me, it usually fails during the restore.

just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.

drksilenc said:
just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.
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I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...

I love the new clockwork mod touch recovery. I actually like it better than twrp2.0. Only thing I like about twrp is you can compress the backups. The new cwm touch was just released for the ns4g.
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I agree ROM manager is useless in the galaxy s4g forums its ROM Mangler.
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playya said:
I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...
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I know, I know...
(And I'm back up with CM9 on my ET4G: used my desktop, couldn't wait all day), and believe me: there's probably no one who's more outspoken about their anti-cwm/rommanagerness than I am: I'm just mad at myself for believing that the new update would work..
Oh well, lesson (re)learned....
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This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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eao1991 said:
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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Originally Posted by eao1991
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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I use the extended power options for that...but obviously the rom needs to include it which most do now. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for ever buying rom manager but I guess it was the noob in me.
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Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.

CBowley said:
Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.
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For our phone.

There's definitely nothing wrong with CWM. Blame rom manager if you must place the blame anywhere besides yourself.

I bought rom manager to support clockworkmod and have access to the latest clockworkmod versions. I think they have provided a wonderful tool. Anyway, I actually never used it except to check for roms and latest clockworkmod.
I've flashed the touch version of clockworkmod (downloaded the .img file from the clockrkmod web site) on my ns4g using adb and fastboot (thanks to Paul627 for the tutorial).
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Cant get ROM manager to do backup or anything at all help please

killer-49 said:
I rooted my epic 4g touch ( sgs2 sprint) and it was successful, I did it rich the one click Oden, I have super user and I install ROM manage, then I flash the image (epic 4g touch) and I was going to make a backup because I want to install the fc18 or the fc22 stock ROM so I couldhave ICS on my phone, here's the problem, ROM manager doesn't want to make a back up, I put the roms into my sd card using developers debugging mode and I still can't flash them, I don't know what to do and i'm a noob to Android, I used to jailbreak IPhones but I realized with Android you have to bee much careful, anyone please help? Also what's team rogue? Is that a recovery and how could I get, I really appreciate the help...
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killer-49 said:
killer-49 said:
I rooted my epic 4g touch ( sgs2 sprint) and it was successful, I did it rich the one click Oden, I have super user and I install ROM manage, then I flash the image (epic 4g touch) and I was going to make a backup because I want to install the fc18 or the fc22 stock ROM so I couldhave ICS on my phone, here's the problem, ROM manager doesn't want to make a back up, I put the roms into my sd card using developers debugging mode and I still can't flash them, I don't know what to do and i'm a noob to Android, I used to jailbreak IPhones but I realized with Android you have to bee much careful, anyone please help? Also what's team rogue? Is that a recovery and how could I get, I really appreciate the help...
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OK here is some help. Read the posts here. Lots of them. Over and over, and all the way through. Start at the begining of the 'development' thread and read the stickies.
I would also suggest checking out Qbking77's videos. He's got a crap load of very well thought out and produced 'how to's'.
There are SO MANY threads that warn to NOT USE ROM Manager with this phone it silly. It will brick your phone. Or if you are lucky only require a factory reset and then the Odin re-installation of a stock rooted ROM. Many new to this phone will try and use it because they believe that it is 'just an app' that can be installed and take all the 'work' out of learning how to do the right thing. It can't. A rooted Android phone is NOT like an iPhone. You have so much more chance of mucking things up, and conversly of making this thing freaking awesome.
Check out sfhub's post for stock rooted ROMs EL29 - the go to, save you life, restore for me, and the FC24 (ICS). Team Rogue are the recovery kernal guys (Steady Hawkin knows his stuff), their CWM kernal repacks and enhancements make modifying this phone a breeze - if you follow the directions! If you don't know what and how clockworkmod works; spend some time and read and watch some videos too. This alone will probably save your ass. I am an image freak on all my technology and make nandroids (CWM images) almost daily and copy them to my PCs incase I need to do a restore and there is a problem with my SD card. [side note: I image all my other machines regularly too; Mac, Linux and Windows]
I understand your excitement to get 'flashin' but spend some time - maybe a week at least(not kidding) learning about how Android and the Epic 4GT work and how to properly modify/enhance the device(s). If you do you will be amazed at what you can do.
Good luck.
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killer-49 said:
killer-49 said:
I rooted my epic 4g touch ( sgs2 sprint) and it was successful, I did it rich the one click Oden, I have super user and I install ROM manage, then I flash the image (epic 4g touch) and I was going to make a backup because I want to install the fc18 or the fc22 stock ROM so I couldhave ICS on my phone, here's the problem, ROM manager doesn't want to make a back up, I put the roms into my sd card using developers debugging mode and I still can't flash them, I don't know what to do and i'm a noob to Android, I used to jailbreak IPhones but I realized with Android you have to bee much careful, anyone please help? Also what's team rogue? Is that a recovery and how could I get, I really appreciate the help...
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I seriously don't mean to flame u ....before you do anything with flashing or anything you had better read read read and understand because you are about to brick your phone ..... get rid of rom manager and learn to use recovery the right way and read read read .... you have not done enough if you even tried using rom manager ....
Read this entire thread and understand you have a 500 dollar phone u can screw up by not knowing what you are doing ...http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...
How Not To Brick Your E4GT (UPDATED 3/28/12)
A lot of people bricking have a lot more knowledge about android than you ...please learn before just jumping in and asking a bunch of stupid questions on here ... this is not meant to make u feel bad , but you seriously need more info before you flash this .... this would be like flashing entire roms on iOS which they don't do
I mean you didn't even post in the correct phone in the first place you post in the sensation forum....
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killer-49 said:
killer-49 said:
I rooted my epic 4g touch ( sgs2 sprint) and it was successful, I did it rich the one click Oden, I have super user and I install ROM manage, then I flash the image (epic 4g touch) and I was going to make a backup because I want to install the fc18 or the fc22 stock ROM so I couldhave ICS on my phone, here's the problem, ROM manager doesn't want to make a back up, I put the roms into my sd card using developers debugging mode and I still can't flash them, I don't know what to do and i'm a noob to Android, I used to jailbreak IPhones but I realized with Android you have to bee much careful, anyone please help? Also what's team rogue? Is that a recovery and how could I get, I really appreciate the help...
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Or simply don't use rom manager. Period. It is not necessary for anything you will need to do with your epic.
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Hey what they said.... you obviously don't lime your phone if your flashing without reading. R.I.F.
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ROM Manager

I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Linux215 said:
I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Yes it does. I use it all the time. Do NOT use any form of touch recovery. There is one out there that is safe but right now do NOT use touch recovery.
Touch recovery has been blamed for bricking phones best to steer clear of it altogether.
There are some issues with Rom Manager, I'm sure someone will let you know. FYI, Rom manager uses a v5.0.2.7 CWM based recovery for our phone. Do not use it with any of the ICS based roms, cwm is not compatible with them currently.

Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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Linux215 said:
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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The gingerbread based ROMs usually come with a kernel that has recovery built-in so those are safe to use the way they are.
Can't emphasize enough though not to use recovery in ICS though.

Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Linux215 said:
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Ah gotcha. First of all, I wouldn't recommend using rom manager to do anything but backups and restores. Yes, you can click Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, make sure you select the 'Samsung Epic 4G Touch'.
Lastly, I have no friggin clue what those roms/rom updates are listed there and how they get flashed or what would happen if something goes sideways so I stick with the XDA known and tried roms that you can get support for.
You cannot use Rom Manager because these need to be flashed according to the instructions posted with each rom. They are almost identical and its very easy to do.
Short version is, I recommend Rom Manager as an easy way to backup and restore your android OS from an interface. Beyond that, I think you're taking unecessary risks. There's a thread around here somewhere about how Rom Manger is very very bad.

I would recommend you read the instructions for any thread you are planning on utilizing closely and follow the directions listed in those threads. Don't assume past Android experience gives a license to skim the reading. Every phone is slightly different and has nuances that can become issues of glossed over. There are often reasons why the instructions are written the way they are.

I've had this phone for a while now, I was just re installing some apps and seen it and just wanted to know if it had a section for our phone that's its
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when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Tungsten c said:
when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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You should not use rom manager, especially if you are on an ICS rom. It needs to install its own version of cwm and could royally mess up the phone.
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Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Tungsten c said:
Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Best bet is what you said - Power Off, then power+volume up to get into a recovery. As for recovery Agat's has been great! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721065 and there are some specifically for CM9 and AOKP so if you plan on flashing any of those check those threads.

[Q] Which Recovery

Which Recovey Do You Guys Think is Best CWM or TWRP?

I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...

mike.r.olson said:
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...
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i have always used cwm and wanted to try twrp on my sgs2 but didnt. so thats why i wanted any1 oppion

i have been on TWRP for the past 6 months and never looked back, plus its themabel which is a nice bonus, givie it a try
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mike.r.olson said:
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
Keep calm and flash on...
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+1 on 4EXT, That's by far my favorite recovery:good:
Where did you hear that it was coming to the sgs3?
I emailed madmaxx on it and he said he was really busy with allot of other models and he would look into our sgs3's since it's a popular device.
Hopefully we will see it soon:fingers-crossed:

CWM is great, but TWRP is just awesome.
For me, TWRP has these little things that just make sense, like a link to wipe dalvik/cache right after you flash something, option to queue up multiple zips to flash in a certain order, option to compress your backups (because they do end up taking quite a bit of space if you have multiple backups), etc.

sswb27 said:
Where did you hear that it was coming to the sgs3?
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I believe I read on their site that they may begin working in it at a future date. I'm satisfied with TWRP, but I'm hopeful that 4EXT is "in the cards" so to speak.
Edit: it appears like they want to start working on the international version of the SGS3. Hopefully we might me able to sway them towards working on the stateside version first.
Keep calm and flash on...

Sorry for the noob question.... but i just got the s3 and its already rooted but how do i enter recovery?? Or can somebody guide me for like a what are the steps to take idk... take in advance
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beyako said:
Sorry for the noob question.... but i just got the s3 and its already rooted but how do i enter recovery?? Or can somebody guide me for like a what are the steps to take idk... take in advance
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Press and hold Volume Up+Home+Power buttons at the same time for about 5 seconds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31890422
Should probably read the whole thread before you do anything else...
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Tried TWRP once upon a time and couldn't adjust.
Ended up reverting to CWM Touch.
It just works for me.

Sorry i was just too excited.... lol
Thanks......
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I like twrp personally. Layouts better and easier to use. Plus it has a built in file manager.
Cwm has the ability to prevent itself from being overwritten after ota update but there's other ways around this.
They are both good recoveries imo, just personal preference.
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Agree 100% with Doc

I always used cwm since it came out but switched to twrp since I got my s3 and I'd never go back.
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mike.r.olson said:
I'm using TWRP because it's what I've used on my prior HTC devices and I'm familiar with it. I've read that 4EXT recovery might be available for our phones soon, and I'll switch to that if it becomes available.
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I prefer twrp (only when 4ext isn't available). I talked to madmaxx82 and he was in middle of a complete redesign/overhaul on the UI of 4ext when started having computer issues. Then he did say we r on the list. I was his beta tester for the HTC Amaze. He prefers the HTC devices so I assume will be doing those first.
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If I wanted to switch from CWM touch to TWRP, can I just flash the twrp using goomanager? Also, if I do change do the backups from CWM work fine for TWRP?

kingston73 said:
If I wanted to switch from CWM touch to TWRP, can I just flash the twrp using goomanager? Also, if I do change do the backups from CWM work fine for TWRP?
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Yes, install goo manager from the playstore and install recovery from there. No you will not be able to restore any backup made with CWM in TWRP.

Thanks for the quick answer. I think I'll just stick with CWM for now. I'd love to see EXT for us, I had that for the sensation and loved it and was a bit disappointed to find there wasn't a version here.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the quick answer. I think I'll just stick with CWM for now. I'd love to see EXT for us, I had that for the sensation and loved it and was a bit disappointed to find there wasn't a version here.
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I have been a loyal CWM user since MT3g days, then I tried TWRP on my SGS3 and have not looked backed. I love the UI better, everything just seems a lot faster in TWRP to me.

kingston73 said:
If I wanted to switch from CWM touch to TWRP, can I just flash the twrp using goomanager? Also, if I do change do the backups from CWM work fine for TWRP?
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When u open goo manager app... push the menu soft key on your phone and click the install openrecovery script. Then you are good. :thumbup:
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