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Parrot Asteroid

Anyone know anything about this stereo -
http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bluetooth-hands-free-car-kits/parrot-asteroid
Even, where it can be bought, how much it is? What OS it runs for that matter?

well it says that it has Android embedded, so the OS is Android
it looks pretty interesting too...
as for when/where/how much, the site says "Coming soon in 2011", so I'm guessing that it is yet-to-be-offered and they may not have decided their MSRP yet.
William

First, I don't know if I can post links yet. Second, I'm too lazy to dig it up. They had an article on Androidpolice during CES that included a speaker from Parrot showcasing it. I think he said a Q2 release. I'll be getting this the second its released, regardless of price.

anyone have any more details on this? Q2 is all they're saying...
I want one now!!

For the European markets, they say May. Hopefully the beginning of May
Hope they didn't get a developer team from Motorola, then it's going to takes at least another year

next week
i was infomrmed dynamicsounds expected to be stocked next week

wonder if its worth getting
i am currently considering getting it as i need a car kit any way
apperantly they are avalible as of today at 289 euro in the netherlands

I have one
I currently have an Asteroid sitting on my desk here
When I find some time tonight I'll take it for a testdrive and let you guys know!

Excellent. Please let us know.
What apps are available at the moment?
Im hoping for Spotify and proper navigation once the sdk is released...

Yay, someone that has the Asteroid!
Please, let us now!
And, tell us how the music player works.
I want to hook a big memory card, or if there's room a 40GB laptop harddisk to the unit.
Also, streaming from Bluetooth from your phone. Btw, what kind of phone do you have?
(And hmm.. Gorinchem.. That's not that far from my weekly commute.. )

Asteroid
Been driving around with the Asteroid for a while now and it's a pretty neat radio but not perfect.
Building it into the car was a breeze. With the radio came all the needed cables, like a 3,5mm jack, iPod cable, USB cable for usb-sticks, GPS dongle and microphone for the carkit. All cables were pretty long so you should have no problem routing them to whatever place you want them in your car.
Soundquality is pretty good and there are plenty of connections for subwoofers and external amplifiers so it should suffice even for cars with loads of fat speakers.
Connecting my phone, an HTC Desire with CyanogenMod 7.1 (nightly build), was easy through bluetooth and streaming music over bluetooth went without problems. Answering phonecalls and navigating the menu is pretty easy.
A few problems I ran into though. To use internet on the radio (for google maps, internet radio, coyote speed camera alerts) you can either use a 3g USB dongle (which costs you at least 10€ a month where I live) or tether your phone through bluetooth (maybe usb works, haven't tried yet). To do this, your phone needs to support the bluetooth DUN profile which android lacks. Nokia phones should be no problem though. I've tried using 3rd party apps like PDANet but to no avail.
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
Please note, I have only used this radio for a short while and I might've missed some things! I think this is a very nice radio though and since it is the first model and only out for a week or so now I think there will be some updates from Parrot's side, perhaps expanding the capabilities of this device. The only major drawback is the lack of internet connectivity if you have an Android phone. This is not Parrot's fault though but rather Google's. I heard though that Honeycomb supports Bluetooth PAN and I think the Asteroid supports this for Internet tethering so i'm keeping my hopes up for Android Icecream to bring this feature to my phone.
Pro:
- Lots sources for music: Radio, USB stick, SD Card, iPod, 3.5mm Jack line-in
- Android with Google Maps
- Speed camera Alerts
- Large screen (for a single DIN radio unit)
- Lots of cables came with the Radio (With a Pioneer your need to buy overpriced iPod cables separately)
- Its a handsfree carkit, and Parrot knows how to make those by now
- Lots of tweaking possible with the sound
Con:
- Internet does not work with Android phones (yet)
- Lacks certain tweaking possibilities in the settings menu
Feel free to ask any questions

Thank you for the excellent review.
Those drawbacks are major issues,
but Im hoping Parrot will come up with some patches
soon.
The Asteroid is not on sale here yet, and it might take a while.
But I am going to Holland later this month..
Anyone know a place close to Schiphol that sell Parrot equipment?

I also have the Parrot Asteroid for a few days now. But I can't get thetering trough Bluetooth working on my HTC Desire Z (Android 2.2).
I used an app called "PdaNet" or something, with that I can enalbe "Dun - Dia-up Network". And I can make a connection with the parrort trough Settings > Network > Bluetooth. But as soon as I try to use an application that uses internet, it won't work and says I need a internet connection.
Anyone know how I can use DUN or PAN, because an Asteroid doesn't have WiFi and can't tether trough USB ??
Thanx!

RobertR21,
Android does currently not support PAN or DUN so using that is probably not possible without any 3rd party software. I tried PDAnet aswell but it did not work.
You might try connecting your phone to the 3G dongle port on your asteroid through USB, as android supports USB tethering, I have not tried this myself. I can verify though that DUN works, I tried it with my Nokia and it worked flawlessly.
I hear there's rumours on the Internets though that Android icecream is going to support PAN though, so maybe then we can use our android phones. Maybe before that time Parrot will find a solution.

Does anyone know which 3g USB dongles work with the Asteroid?
In my case: I have a Trekstor/Huawei MiFi which can also be used as a "Stick" - Will this work via USB? My Asteroid Device ships in (wish me luck) tomorrow. Pimpin' my Ride is planned at Saturday ;-)
ThX

Hi, I've got the this Parrot Asteriod also.
And For you guys I can use bluetooth internet though my old HTC Hero. I can do it also with other phones. but there is a trick for it.
First root your phone, this is absolutely nessasary.
Then download from the market 'Wireless Tether for root users'(it is a free app).
This one has internet tethering through bluetooth.
Go to menu and select bluetooth instead of wifi.
then go to access-control and eneble it.
Make the bluetooth visible in the tether program.
On the asteroid go to setting and then network and then bluetooth is will find your phone(again) and press the nice parrot butten and it connects.
then on your phone again give it authorization to use the tether and you have your internet.
One problem is that you have to connect manually every time. (your carkit does it automaticly) but not the internet. But at least you can then enjoy your live radio and google maps if you want to.
You only have to have the tether active and connect only through the radio other steps are not needed anymore after.
Internet through usb with your doesn't work, to bad.
One issue that I've encountered with this radio the front panel will become pretty hot after playing an half hour on a high volume. does anyone else have this problem also?

Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available?
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market?
- What Android version is installed?
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?)
Greetings
karlv

Dysphoria said:
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
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For disablieng the traffic information go to tuner, select a radio station then press the menu button there you can edit if you want traffic information on or of.
text to speech, try the menu button in the app contacts you can change it there. I like that so I didn't look at it yet.
The most options regarding a app can be found in the app it self. try to look for tweaking option there.
karlv said:
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available? NO, not yet at least
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market? Special Parrot market, apps that are avaible can be found on the parrot site then put on usb stick and then install.
- What Android version is installed? Android 1.5
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?) No, maybe also later.
Greetings
karlv
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Everyone can correct me if I'm wrong

anyone already tried getting in touch with the radios file system?
I assume those usb ports only are usb hosts?

there's a new firmware out:
http://download.parrot.com/Parrot_Asteroid_soft_update/asteroid_update_fr_FR.plf
It's nearly 90 MB, so it looks as a complete android software build.
can we get this extracted? modders, come on
EDIT:
there exist some plftools for other Parrot Devices. Maybe they can be used to extract useful stuff out of the Asteroid firmware files...
Links:
http://embedded-software.blogspot.c...howComment=1311293537224#c8852365956008835373
http://sites.google.com/site/repurposelinux/df3120
EDIT2:
part of the firmware update file:
parrotparts=nand0:256K(Pbootloader),16M(Pmain_boot),4M(Pfactory),241408K(Psystem) console=ttyPA0,115200 loglevel=8 update
maybe it is possible to divide the plf file into parts and mount them somehow? (http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=478.0)
EDIT3:
Serial output of AR Drone Update, wich also uses plf update files and is based on linux:
http://kapejod.org/download/ardrone_install.txt

Bluetooth Dial-up Networking WP7

One feature missing from Mango is Bluetooth Dial-up Networking.
A lot of standard Nokia phones support it as well as most Blackberry and Sony Ericsson.
Admittedly, IOS and Android don't support it.
If an app or feature could be written it would be an extremely useful tool.
I would use it for connecting to Comand Online in my car and I'm sure loads of people would use it.
I can't see it being an official app on the app store but would be a great unofficial app.

Agreed. An app like PDAnet on android allows for BTDUN.

Also free tethering
*bump* also, a tethering application similar to MiWi in IOS that allows you to tether your phone (to share your existing data bundle) but without incurring additional charges from your network provider.
I'd love to code this but wouldn't have a clue where to start!

Check out this thread if you want to get Internet Sharing or Wifi Hotspot enabled for your phone.
Bluetooth I have a doubt but will check out.
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*bump* also, a tethering application similar to MiWi in IOS that allows you to tether your phone (to share your existing data bundle) but without incurring additional charges from your network provider.
I'd love to code this but wouldn't have a clue where to start!
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Bluetooth will only happen if Microsoft releases an update for it. Currently no phone had the necessary bluetooth driver.

I too would love BT DUN, with my symbians and WMs I always got the impression that it chewed the battery less than Wifi ICS.

And a blue tooth profile for separate keyboards too please - that's something I'm really missing.

[Q] Connecting GN to Mercedes Comand system

Hi
Guys I have a 2011 C Class with the Comand system in it. It has internet access which you use using the WAP on your phone once it is connected via Bluetooth to the Comand system. It worked fine with my Galaxy S but now that I have the GN it wont access. Does anyone know why or does anyone know how to fix this.

Are you sure it uses wap and not Bluetooth? Even if you're right and it does use wap, it may be worth checking if there's an option to use Bluetooth and to see if that works. With Bluetooth you'd of course need to pair the car's bt with your phone's.
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LAUK 75
Hi thanks for your reply according to manual these are the conditions that are necessary for connection.
"the mobile phone supports DUN Bluetooth profile(Dial-Up Networking)and is connected to COMAND via the Bluetooth interface. The DUN Bluetooth enables the mobile phone to establish a dial-up connection to the Internet"
As I said my Galaxy S connected to it fine and enabled the internet connection on the COMAND system.

The only thing I can suggest is that you ensure that your phone's Bluetooth is paired with your car's. If you've already confirmed that it is then then the only other thing that comes to mind is to perhaps try using your phone as mobile hotspot over Bluetooth.
Did you set it up yourself with your other phone or was it set up for you when you bought the car?
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Lauk75, I'm sorry but neither of your posts made technological sense. WAP is a protocol by which mobile devices access the internet. Bluetooth is a radio device allowing 2 devices to exchange information, ie audio via a headset or a card between 2 phones.
Onto the problem. Is the comand unit trying to use the SAP protocol? I know androids support of this is fairly limited? Are there any other settings in the head unit you can change? If you tell me if its comand 50,20,10 etc I'll look at the manual for you.
John
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Ah, I wrongly assumed that the problem was with trying to play music from the phone. I see now that it is all about accessing the Internet. My mistake.
Having said that, there is a Bluetooth tethering option on the galaxy nexus, the description of which suggests it is for sharing the phone's Internet connection in a similar way as you would do in normal tethering. That was my second suggestion in my second post above . Perhaps it is worth a try, perhaps not.
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john
thanks for your reply. All I can say about the comand system is that its called COMAND ONLINE. No model number. Its a brand new system that's in the new C Class. As I said my Galaxy S connects the internet to it no prob. It must be to do with ICS maybe. Tried the Bluetooth Tethering mentioned by LAUK 75 (thanks for your reply) but still no luck.

Then I would gather that its an issue with the Bluetooth stack on ics. If your rooted u may want to try a 4.0.3 rom and see if that fixes the issue. Other than that I think ur out of luck. I've not looked but are there any Bluetooth apps in the market, as they may use their own stack/ driver for Bluetooth. (Worth a shot)
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On looking, there are two apps in the market which add Bluetooth PAN functions. They may be worth a shot. Search for Bluetooth pan in the market.
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Also try an app called PDAnet, which enables Bluetooth DUN profile.
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Guys thanks. Tried PDANET but it doesnt load on ICS. Tried Nook Colour tether doesnt work either.

Guys
Can anyone, please have a look at this Thread again. I have still noit been able to use the internet on my mercedes when my Galaxy Nexus is connected to it. I think it's something to do with the Bluetooth settings within ICS.
According to manual these are the conditions that are necessary for connection.
"the mobile phone supports DUN Bluetooth profile(Dial-Up Networking)and is connected to COMAND via the Bluetooth interface. The DUN Bluetooth enables the mobile phone to establish a dial-up connection to the Internet"

PDANet for Android seems to be working fine. Make sure you have GPU acceleration turned off in developer settings. In order to access Bluetooth DUN Mode you need to install FoxFi

anton2009 said:
PDANet for Android seems to be working fine. Make sure you have GPU acceleration turned off in developer settings. In order to access Bluetooth DUN Mode you need to install FoxFi
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Hi anton2009, thanks for your response. When I use PDAnet 3.50 and select Bluetooth DUN mode it takes me to Foxfi I then select Activate Bluetooth DUN and it says fail to Activate. Internet not detected.

Hmm... well I thought you would be able to do it without having the PC PDANet component, but apparently you do...? So this would make this quite useless... I guess the only thingI can think of would be the bluetooth tethering option in Wireless Networks, but you already stated that does not work. Sorry.

Guys eventually solved this. An App called Blue Dun available through Google Play has fixed this problem. See line 101
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16717#c101
I have just spoken with the developer of the app and their is an updated version coming out this week, the new version will be compatible also for Toyota Touch&Go navi, Tom Tom nav. , Clever GPS and BB Playbook.

[Q] Blue tooth App

Hi guys,
I have a Galaxy S3 running 4.1.1. I love it so far. the one problem that i am having is this. I recently bought a blueant Q2. it sync perfectly with the phone and everything works well.
My problem is that the native phone dialer requires a network connection. This is stupid since my dumb phones that i had for years did not. I would just say call X and it would call X.
Is there a app that doesn't require an internet connection to dial people that will start automatically when i touch my bluetooth headset?

ludin said:
Hi guys,
I have a Galaxy S3 running 4.1.1. I love it so far. the one problem that i am having is this. I recently bought a blueant Q2. it sync perfectly with the phone and everything works well.
My problem is that the native phone dialer requires a network connection. This is stupid since my dumb phones that i had for years did not. I would just say call X and it would call X.
Is there a app that doesn't require an internet connection to dial people that will start automatically when i touch my bluetooth headset?
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Dragon assistant (There's a thread for it if not available in your country).

I tried dragon and it requires an internet connection to work even in drive mode.

ludin said:
I tried dragon and it requires an internet connection to work even in drive mode.
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What do you mean by older device? Like not android?
Androids run with Google, which of course uses internet so I dunno if there's an app that would allow it without internet connection. That's like having a AI on your phone.

all of my non-smart phones could do bluetooth dialing without connecting to the internet.
yet my smart phone has to connect to the internet. I don't want to blow my mobile data so i only use it when i have to.
i don't understand how a dumb non-smart phone can do something that a smart phone can't.
i have heard cyberon can do it i just didn't want to pay for an app.

ludin said:
all of my non-smart phones could do bluetooth dialing without connecting to the internet.
yet my smart phone has to connect to the internet. I don't want to blow my mobile data so i only use it when i have to.
i don't understand how a dumb non-smart phone can do something that a smart phone can't.
i have heard cyberon can do it i just didn't want to pay for an app.
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Dunno how much data you have but I personnaly have 1GB and I never use all of it (and I never restrain myself from using the internet). Those voice search use next to nothing so you really don't have to worry about that.

ludin said:
all of my non-smart phones could do bluetooth dialing without connecting to the internet.
yet my smart phone has to connect to the internet. I don't want to blow my mobile data so i only use it when i have to.
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I suppose (but that's only a guess) you would have saved a voice entry for all your contacts on your old phone, and the phone would match your query to one of the voice entries. And on Android, this kind of match is computed by a speech recognition server. That's what I would guess...

[Q] Bluetooth Pairing for Data with GS3?

Can anyone confirm if you can in fact BT pair the Note 8 and the GS3? Unfortunately here in the US it doesn't look like we are getting the "phone" version of the Note 8.
WiFi tethering just chews up too much battery. I'd like to use BT and skim my mobile 4G connection from the GS3. Bandwidth should be fine as both devices have BT2.
Also, if there's a BT push app for text messages that anyone knows of, that would be a nifty find also.
Thanks in advance.
BN

Did you try Open Garden? It uses bluetooth to connect and work just as good as wifi tethering. But only one issue when I used, it could not open youtube file for some reason. Dunno if they fixed.
for what you asked with S3, maybe have to wait other people to answer since I dont own the device.