[Q] JuiceDefender?!?! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I RARELY buy apps. Probably only bought 3 in total but how many people would recommend JuiceDefender Ultimate Juice? Does it really help with battery life? Is it great?

knowledge561 said:
I RARELY buy apps. Probably only bought 3 in total but how many people would recommend JuiceDefender Ultimate Juice? Does it really help with battery life? Is it great?
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some ppl will probly argue tho it did help lil on my 2.2 rom but the gin roms jd has real issues the brightness goes up and down dosent allow u to install anything until u uninstall jd, i tried to stop it from running and still no go so id save your money

It work a little ..but like the guy said save ur cash...
funnie evo

I'm on cm7 and I bought UJ finally and it's pretty good. Makes my phone last the whole day. Granted I am a moderate user but from 4AM to 12AM is pretty good.
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I use sense roms and i see a big enough difference with JD Ultimate for the few bucks it costs..i get close to double my regular battery usage with it..there is ways to get it without paying if u are into that kind of stuff

i'd try normal juicedefender first. if you like it, then review what features you will get from ultimate. if you think it's worth it, then buy on in. if not, then don't.
btw, in my experiance, letting it toggle my 4g actually lost me battery.

My experience it was ok. I got it for the sense 2.1 rom due to the brightness issues. I had to unistall it because it was making my connectivity act up. My data wouldn't start back up on wake sometimes. Overall it wasn't saving me a dramatic amount either.
In all fairness I didn't customize it. Just used normal or aggressive default.
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SetCPU
If you're really gonna spend some money on an app SetCPU is the way to go for battery life (Assuming you're rooted). This way you have a customizable governor on your processor and you can tell it how fast to run. Unless you've already done this in which case sorry. I get at least a good two days out of my battery on almost all the roms I run and I flash a lot, Letting it die completely when the screen is off does a tremendous job & really you don't need it to run over 700 mhz for most things. Give it a try, the trick is setting the profiles. Use on demand for your scaling then set accordingly, keep in mind you need to set the most important profiles such as temperature and screen off as your 100 or 99 level profiles. You'll get the hang of it, but as I said if you already use it then this was a giant waste of typing
P.S. if running the Stock HTC Kernel you have to disable perflock in order for the profiles to work. Main tab, menu, perflock disabler.

originalmg said:
If you're really gonna spend some money on an app SetCPU is the way to go for battery life (Assuming you're rooted). This way you have a customizable governor on your processor and you can tell it how fast to run. Unless you've already done this in which case sorry. I get at least a good two days out of my battery on almost all the roms I run and I flash a lot, Letting it die completely when the screen is off does a tremendous job & really you don't need it to run over 700 mhz for most things. Give it a try, the trick is setting the profiles. Use on demand for your scaling then set accordingly, keep in mind you need to set the most important profiles such as temperature and screen off as your 100 or 99 level profiles. You'll get the hang of it, but as I said if you already use it then this was a giant waste of typing
P.S. if running the Stock HTC Kernel you have to disable perflock in order for the profiles to work. Main tab, menu, perflock disabler.
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First of all, the super awesome setcpu developer posted it on the forum for free, so you don't really need to buy from market. Second, the smart ass governer can do this all automatically. Finally, juice defender still works better for me.
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I installed the free version and it killed 7% in 1 minute on my 3500mah battery. I uninstalled and reinstalled an hour later and same thing. My phone does not like it.
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knowledge561 said:
I RARELY buy apps. Probably only bought 3 in total but how many people would recommend JuiceDefender Ultimate Juice? Does it really help with battery life? Is it great?
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I use Tasker from the Market, creating profiles such as turning off data when screen is off and data on when screen is on (doesn't affect voice calls or SMS/MMS). Also, I use Autokiller Memory Manager (not a task killer). I can get from 17 hours on normal use to 31 hours with light to moderate use. As I write this, I'm at 88% battery left after 5 hours off the charger.

What exactly do the app do?
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I can vouche for it. It works awesome for my evo. I got x1.5 out of my standard battery under customize mode
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battery drain and Snap with CM6?

CM6 is definitely great, I think without question it is a vast improvement.
The only issue I have is my battery life is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. Could be the worst battery life I've had with any phone. But maybe that's just the EVO, with it's big screen and speedy processor. I underclock to 384 mhz sometimes but then the thing slows down and even freezes. I have 3 different batteries and they all perform about the same (not good.) Before I had a partial wake issue but that's gone, and battery life still stinks. I've also tried calibrating but nothing really seems to make it better.
I hear the snap thing is good for battery life but I everytime I open that thread I get a headache. I love this phone and am obsessed wtih it but that thread is a bit much even for me!
Can anyone give me a quick and dirty explaination of what snap is / how to use snap? Which kernel to flash? Some day I hope to digest that mammoth of a thread, but right now I'm too busy reading texts for college and Just want better battery life.
Thanks!
Download app System Panel. Will help show you what is eating up your battery/resources.
Then, download app Juice Defender. Worth it to get the paid version. Its like 3 bucks IIRC. This will help you get more battery life out of your phone.
-Sent from my Evo.
nyc_zx10 said:
Download app System Panel. Will help show you what is eating up your battery/resources.
Then, download app Juice Defender. Worth it to get the paid version. Its like 3 bucks IIRC. This will help you get more battery life out of your phone.
-Sent from my Evo.
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Yeah, I tried System Panel but the things eating my battery were mostly system things, like Browser. I guess I could give it another go.
Why are Juice Defender reviews so bad? I've considered it before also, maybe will try playing with it again
snap 8.2 is the current release. you can try any of the kernels, but i would avoid the 7.0/7.1 SD Card implementations since that technology has been put on the back burner for a bit.
Snap allows you to you Overclock and Undervolt (aka: UV).
Overclocking of course is for speed and Undervolting may save battery.
all EVOs are not created equal. some like undervolting some do not. so snap is available in multiple flavors. each with a different UV floor. the lower the floor the more potential battery saving..but also the more chance for a random reboot or wifi/gps acting funny. remember UV retards the amount of power so things can act goofy. the different UV floors are 800mv - 925mv. for example...i use the 8.2_900 because it works well with my EVO. the 8.2_800 booted great but after a while started rebooting itself. 8.2_850 just hung at bootup. the 8.1 kernels didn't work for me at all. 7.3b1 was great.
HAVs is adaptive..so don't get stressed if your device fails to boot properly the first time. wipe the cache/dalvik and try again.
so download a few of the 8.2 kernels.
make your nandroid
begin trial and error (I'd suggest starting at 800, 850 then 900 to get a feel)
don't be afraid to wipe the Cache and Dalvik multiple times.
don't worry about the whole thread. just grab the last few pages and read the OP. then feel free to ask.
i also recommend setCPU. you can find some threads for SetCPU configurations to help. BUT....make sure SetCPU is disabled when flashing the new kernel. once you get a working kernel you can enable SetCPU...but during testing phase it will give you gray hair.
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Just a few quick thoughts on voltages/freqs after seeing a handful of discussion in the thread:
1) Every 8.2 kernel has voltages lower than stock. The default stock voltage @ 245 is something around 1050.
2) No real effort is made to UV at the top end. It's a little lower, but the objective at the highest CPU frequency is not to UV. Most of the benefit of UV comes at the low end of the scale when your phone is idle (most of the time). Less voltage = less draw.
3) nHAVS scales voltage at each step. There is a min.max voltage at every cpu frequency. This range is fairly small--50-75mv, but it enables HAVS to decide based on feedback from the CPU which one to apply. And the max at each step is lower than stock. So no matter how you slice it, even if you're running 925, you are undervolted. This becomes a question of how undervolted.
4) OC is not about undervolting, it's about overclocking. The differences is voltage vs. frequency. OC means we're increasing the CPU frequency beyond stock which is 998mhz in the case of Evo. If you move your SetCPU slider beyond 998mhz, you're overclocking.
The objective of overclocking is speed. The objective of undervolting is battery savings. Snap gives you both. We overclock when we increase the fequency with SetCPU. We undervolt automatically via nHAVS. As of this writing, UV is handled in the kernel, it happens most at the bottom end of the frequency scale.
I hope this helps clear up some of the questions. Great conversation by the way.
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GREAT EXPLANATION Dragin!!!
and also, to the OP.... dont forget, if you do go with setcpu, do NOT 'set on boot' mmmmkay??? lol
Thank you Dragin!!!
That helps a lot! So once you have Snap setup at what you feel is "good" does your phone seem to perform as well as before you had it undervolted? Man, sounds like a pretty involved process - maybe I better wait until I can really sit down and play with it.
goodelyfe said:
GREAT EXPLANATION Dragin!!!
and also, to the OP.... dont forget, if you do go with setcpu, do NOT 'set on boot' mmmmkay??? lol
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Do you mean for the first flash? Or every time you boot your phone?
If not set on boot, it means you have to start SetCPU manually after each boot. Doesn't seem right
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Do you mean for the first flash? Or every time you boot your phone?
If not set on boot, it means you have to start SetCPU manually after each boot. Doesn't seem right
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I think he's talking about when ur figuring out the best setup
Regarding Juice:
I didn't really read too much into the reviews for this particular app. It works. I was having battery issues. Downloaded Juice, got the settings somewhat right to my liking and so far no complaints. Unplugged my phone from charger this morning at roughly 9am, been using it moderately all day, and as of right now at 12:50am, I am at 29%.
Bad reviews or not, I can attest to it working and making a difference in battery life.
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I had the same issue, left to stock with kingx.
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Regarding Juice:
I didn't really read too much into the reviews for this particular app. It works. I was having battery issues. Downloaded Juice, got the settings somewhat right to my liking and so far no complaints. Unplugged my phone from charger this morning at roughly 9am, been using it moderately all day, and as of right now at 12:50am, I am at 29%.
Bad reviews or not, I can attest to it working and making a difference in battery life.
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Do you know what in particular Juice is doing to give you better battery life? like what does Turn off certain things based on conditions or?
That is some good battery life.
Correct.
You can set conditions to do certain things. Such as disable data/3g/wifi while screen is off. Also if you need data synced you can set a condition to enable data wifi or 3g for X minutes every X minutes/hours.
I am not affiliated with the dev in anyway but it def made a difference and was worth the price for it.
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nyc_zx10 said:
Correct.
You can set conditions to do certain things. Such as disable data/3g/wifi while screen is off. Also if you need data synced you can set a condition to enable data wifi or 3g for X minutes every X minutes/hours.
I am not affiliated with the dev in anyway but it def made a difference and was worth the price for it.
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Meh... see I really don't want to do those things. I can turn off data sync myself and just have gmail forward me a text message when I have an email. I just was hoping there was a way to get decent battery life without going back to the days of Winmo
I absolutely adore CM6, but I'm really starting to think that it is not battery friendly. Last night my battery went from full to 25% in 8 hours. I had nothing running, my partial wake was fine, and Android system took up 60%+. I really don't feel like doing another wipe, but it looks like I may have to. Just want it to work right at this point.
Again, I truly love CM6, the open source concept, the transparency, the whole clean idea of it, but there is something seriously wrong with the battery life (at least in every install I have tried)
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I absolutely adore CM6, but I'm really starting to think that it is not battery friendly. Last night my battery went from full to 25% in 8 hours. I had nothing running, my partial wake was fine, and Android system took up 60%+. I really don't feel like doing another wipe, but it looks like I may have to. Just want it to work right at this point.
Again, I truly love CM6, the open source concept, the transparency, the whole clean idea of it, but there is something seriously wrong with the battery life (at least in every install I have tried)
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i agree with you. but i also feel that CM6 is on par with the Official HTC/Sprint ROM when it comes to battery life expectancy. however, after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
as for finding your EVOs kernel made in heaven...
it's not too bad so long as you have some time. but if you are time strapped, need your phone in 20min and don't read the OP... you will curse and swear. expect to get hung up at the HTC splashscreen a few times and it will bootloop on you before your done. <I'd suggest just leaving your battery cover off until you are done muckn about for that session>
klick may be easier for the some end users because of fewer selections. I've never used his kernels. if i try them, i'll prolly wait till he's put out a few AOSP versions...to work out any bugs.
oh yeah...one odd thing, it seems that sometimes folks flash a incompatible kernel it gets 'stuck'. after that 'bad flash' they are unable to flash any kernel until after they have nandroided back and rebooted...then they can flash again. i had this happen twice....i was unable to get a known good kernel to load until after i restored from backup. /shrug
oh....try this. download the snap7.5_925 kernel. if it runs smooth. call it a day and you should be pretty happy with that until the new versions come out. yeah, if you got one of the _800 kernels running you may pull an extra 30-45min of time...but that requires a level of geekdom that not everyone has.
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i agree with you. but i also feel that CM6 is on par with the Official HTC/Sprint ROM when it comes to battery life expectancy. however, after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
as for finding your EVOs kernel made in heaven...
it's not too bad so long as you have some time. but if you are time strapped, need your phone in 20min and don't read the OP... you will curse and swear. expect to get hung up at the HTC splashscreen a few times and it will bootloop on you before your done. <I'd suggest just leaving your battery cover off until you are done muckn about for that session>
klick may be easier for the some end users because of fewer selections. I've never used his kernels. if i try them, i'll prolly wait till he's put out a few AOSP versions...to work out any bugs.
oh yeah...one odd thing, it seems that sometimes folks flash a incompatible kernel it gets 'stuck'. after that 'bad flash' they are unable to flash any kernel until after they have nandroided back and rebooted...then they can flash again. i had this happen twice....i was unable to get a known good kernel to load until after i restored from backup. /shrug
oh....try this. download the snap7.5_925 kernel. if it runs smooth. call it a day and you should be pretty happy with that until the new versions come out. yeah, if you got one of the _800 kernels running you may pull an extra 30-45min of time...but that requires a level of geekdom that not everyone has.
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Thanks man, appreciate the breakdown.
You have inspired me, I'm going to bite the bullet and try this snap7.5_925 kernel. I'll report back my luck
I do enjoy this stuff, really - just right now it would be irresponsible for me to spend too much time on it. School comes first right now.
DraginMagik said:
... after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
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Wow, I'd love to have that kind of time with CM6, right now I drain at about 10% an hour with no usage at all; where can I find that setcpu config? I really like CM6 but battery life is killing me right now.
loupy said:
Wow, I'd love to have that kind of time with CM6, right now I drain at about 10% an hour with no usage at all; where can I find that setcpu config? I really like CM6 but battery life is killing me right now.
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Yeah dragin, don't hog those sweet settings! I'm enjoying Snap 7.6 and it seems to be helping out my battery life a bit, but I'd love to see your SetCPU details.
I've found that the issue for me is bluetooth. If I have it on constantly my battery will drain 10-15% per hour. With bluetooth off it's only draining 1%-2% per hour.
Seems like the bluetooth needs work on CM6 in order to have the efficiency that the other ROMs i've tried (Fresh and EViO) have. Nonetheless, I'm sticking with CM6 and just use the bluetooth when necessary.
I have the same issue with bluetooth on CM 6.0.0. I am running the stock kernel that comes with cyanogenmod, so this is definitely not a snap issue. There was a bug submitted about a month ago:
code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2136
I *really* hope this can get fixed for the 6.1 release, but it is currently listed with a low priority. I really love CM6, but basically making bluetooth unusable for more than a few hours really makes me struggle with the using this rom.
Why not the 7.6 with turbo...just wonderin

[Q] Juice Defender or Superpower?

Which do you guys think is better in terms of saving some battery and not hindering my performance at all?
What is superpower
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Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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Actually I run stock, and I can tell you its no Placebo effect, my battery without it ran up to 12 hours, but with it I can get close to 30. Its main thing is(for both of them) is that it shuts down your data when your screen is off, and only turning it on at certain intervals. When your screen is on the data is on. They both are about the same, I prefer JD, but have used SP. It is a legit way to save battery especially if your stock as well as rooted. Now app killers on the other hand...not so much.
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Actually I run stock, and I can tell you its no Placebo effect, my battery without it ran up to 12 hours, but with it I can get close to 30. Its main thing is(for both of them) is that it shuts down your data when your screen is off, and only turning it on at certain intervals. When your screen is on the data is on. They both are about the same, I prefer JD, but have used SP. It is a legit way to save battery especially if your stock as well as rooted. Now app killers on the other hand...not so much.
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You know with Sense that it has the data off built-in? Go to wireless settings and turn off always on data. When the screen is off after 5 minutes, I think, it cuts the data off till you turn the screen on. In fact, Juice Defender eats up battery for me because it keeps the phone from sleeping a lot of the time.
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placebo effect? hmm i run a pretty good setup kernel is battery charging 132 and i use collin ph battery tweak and life is decent. just heard good things about these programs. I like the idea were mobile data is only on when im using it. makes sense but ud think the stock rom would do that by itself already? can anyone confirm or disprove that?
i have Juice Defender and Superpower installed on my phone and its working great
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i have Juice Defender and Superpower installed on my phone and its working great
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There is no reason to have both apps installed on your phone considering they essentially do the same thing.
Yellowcard8992 said:
Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
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actually he's sorta right, some of the time the fact that the battery saving program is open all the time cancels out the battery that the program saves. Best thing to do is flash a solid kernel and colin ph
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Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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yea you clearly have NO IDEA what your talking about lol NONE
nilesskate2 said:
he's right, alot of the time the fact that the battery saving program is open all the time cancels out the battery that the program saves. Best thing to do is flash a solid kernel and colin ph
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and you clearly have no idea what your talking about and some phones can't run the script like mine
i bought Juice defender . but it has not been updated for 2.3 yet :/
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actually he's sorta right, some of the time the fact that the battery saving program is open all the time cancels out the battery that the program saves. Best thing to do is flash a solid kernel and colin ph
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Actually, he's sorta wrong. You honestly think that the app uses as much juice as the data connection?
Superpower does no polling at all, all state triggered and has some SetCPU features built in, like seeting to ondemand and max 400mhz.
I've been using juice defender since august when I got my EVO and the battery saving has been exponential. That combined with my 3000mAh extended battery and I get 4 days on 3g.
I have not used either but I hear good things about juice. The only reason I don't run them is I use google messenger so I need my data always on. Juice pretty much cuts down how often your phone polls from the servers (kinda?). Anyways if you don't need constant connectivity I would say go with juice
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[Q] How can I get longer battery life [suggestions about Roms, Custom Kernels, etc]

Hi guys!
This One X is very performing smartphone, games are really pretty... But I can stand that battery problem! I've tried so many rom, using setcpu for ondemand governor of the Tegra3... But I still not have so many battery life!
Can you guys suggest how rom, kernel or something else can save my battery?
Generic suggestions about this problem... Now I'm using Jdroid exodized 3.0.3 with bricked kernel v0.2, but battery is so draining... 63 % of battery with 1.37 hours of screen.. 4 h 22 min on it! =(
Hi!
I see a lot of people complaining about battery life, but if you take a look around you'll find the thread where people posted their battery usage. Me - I'm using rooted OneX running the stock ROM and am more than satisfied as far as battery life goes. I do 15 hours with ease. If I try to save it it usually lasts for more than 24 hours. Maybe you could try stock rom + root ... maybe a little underclock? I've been hearing underclock is quite the juice saver.
Hi,
I am the same I have tried custom Rom's but they claim to improve battery life but they just move the tegra 3 powersaving driver into the correct place!
I have a unlocked O2 HTC One X with O2 Rom and flashed battery fix and rooted the device!
Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597227
I have managed to setup a shortcut using widgets on the screen to select how many cores I want to use. I find that using one core clocked at 1.5GHz is fast enough and I don't have much lag! This has helped my battery massively! This is because O2 still haven't pushed through the HTC updates yet!
And also using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630200
I flashed this using CMW and this has also helped.
I also find disabling some stock apps using App Managment in Settings, also using CPU spy from the Play Store and Battery Usage in settings. I can find the apps that use the most CPU power then uninstall or limit their usage (maybe using the internet instead of a dedicated app) this then has the phone stay in Deep Sleep for longer. I can easily get through 24hrs without having to try to save battery at all! I sometimes have almost got two days without charging!
Another tip is in the Usage app you can Restrict Background data over the network although when you connect to your WiFi it enables it again. Although it is meant to help save your Data it can also help your Battery Life.
Hope this helps!
Steven
Thanks for the answer!
I noticed that, in this Rom that I'm trying, I've the Screen that consume a lot of battery, even in the lowest brightness mode. Not using WiFi, 3g data, autosync, nothing, only a lot of text message received and sent. I think that this S-LCD2 consume a lot of battery or maybe the software of HTC, this time, is a loot poor of balance with this expensive hardware.
Do you think I can improve battery life with the tips that you said? I'm using this ROM right now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597778.
Setting CPU to ondemand governor 304 mhz min and 1.5 ghz doesn't help me? I must disable some cores? I can give it a try, hope that this tips can be made in this AOSP Senseless Rom.
stevepork said:
Hi,
I have a unlocked O2 HTC One X with O2 Rom and flashed battery fix and rooted the device!
Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597227
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The link in which I can download the correct NvCPLSvc.apk in that thread doesn't work
Screen will always be the biggest battery drain if you are using the phone.
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Screen will always be the biggest battery drain if you are using the phone.
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I'm asking myself [ and you ] if this screen consume really a lot amount of battery... Or there is some problem with my one x... Reaching the 3+ hours screen on is a good result, but in a 15 h battery day life, I hope... Maybe I can reach disabling a couple of processors
Don't worry about the screen, it will always take a lot of power whatever you do! It isn't worth messing with it.
You don't need to mess with the CPU although personally it does make a diffrence to the battery, I don't notice it too unless I am gaming!
Maybe an app is preventing your phone from going to deep sleep whilst the screen is off
Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
If it says that your phone hasn't been in deep sleep, We need to try and find the culprit. Once you have done this maybe post back and I might be able to help you sort this out! It took me a while as I had this problem but it was definatly worth the effort!
Try looking in battery in the settings and see if there are any apps that are using a lot of power (maybe take a screen shot) and also try in Data Usage, there maybe apps using the Internet whilst you aren't using the phone. This also wastes the battery. If you restrict background usage (only on certain apps) it will only use the Internet in the background whilst you are connected to wifi only. Facebook is a good example!
Hope this helps
Steven
If you don't understand anything please say, I know my explanations are awful but I will try my best! I think I have changed everything here to fit your rom!
The rom itself although you or the developer know this but the overall system could be causing a problem! (just a theory!)
stevepork said:
Don't worry about the screen, it will always take a lot of power whatever you do! It isn't worth messing with it.
You don't need to mess with the CPU although personally it does make a diffrence to the battery, I don't notice it too unless I am gaming!
Maybe an app is preventing your phone from going to deep sleep whilst the screen is off
Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
If it says that your phone hasn't been in deep sleep, We need to try and find the culprit. Once you have done this maybe post back and I might be able to help you sort this out! It took me a while as I had this problem but it was definatly worth the effort!
Try looking in battery in the settings and see if there are any apps that are using a lot of power (maybe take a screen shot) and also try in Data Usage, there maybe apps using the Internet whilst you aren't using the phone. This also wastes the battery. If you restrict background usage (only on certain apps) it will only use the Internet in the background whilst you are connected to wifi only. Facebook is a good example!
Hope this helps
Steven
If you don't understand anything please say, I know my explanations are awful but I will try my best! I think I have changed everything here to fit your rom!
The rom itself although you or the developer know this but the overall system could be causing a problem! (just a theory!)
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You're too fine with me steven, thanks!
I've downloaded Cpu Spy and it says that my one x has been in deep sleep for 70 % of time, so there is no problem with some apps doing something during screen off. My problem is that when I'm using all 4 cores, without internet via wifi or 3g, without autosync, nothing at all, and screen at lowest brightness, there is still a drastic battery drain while I'm using only Message app a lot. I don't wanna think that my HOX have a fault battery, but how can I test and prove it ? I don't know if there is a program, app or test for doing this thing.
Now I'm with that ROM Senseless AOSP ICS, I will try next charge with two cores actives only and view how much I can stay with that SetCpu settings. I'm using this settings: 101% Battery <, CPU Max 1Ghz to 51Mhz and priority 100, governor ondemand ; screen off, CPU Max 1Ghz to 200 mhz and priority 100, governor ondemand. I'll give you the result soon.
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
Goku80 said:
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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I agree that you should not use set CPU although you are best using ondemand as that is only using the amount of power you need, interactive keeps the speed high to increase the overall speed. (not good for battery life) also maybe, my mothers Samsung Galaxy S2 had battery problems and she got 6hrs of battery out of her phone at max, she always carried her charger around.
I calibrated the battery without using any software, I just fully charged the device and left video/audio/maps on to get rid of the battery as fast as I could and then fully charged the device. All I am trying to say is give this a shot (I did this when I first got my phone) she now gets on average 2days battery life! I know that it can take ages but it is defiantly worth the effort!
Hope this helps
Steven
Also, how do you find that ROM it looks great. I think I might try it!
stevepork said:
I agree that you should not use set CPU although you are best using ondemand as that is only using the amount of power you need, interactive keeps the speed high to increase the overall speed. (not good for battery life) also maybe, my mothers Samsung Galaxy S2 had battery problems and she got 6hrs of battery out of her phone at max, she always carried her charger around.
I calibrated the battery without using any software, I just fully charged the device and left video/audio/maps on to get rid of the battery as fast as I could and then fully charged the device. All I am trying to say is give this a shot (I did this when I first got my phone) she now gets on average 2days battery life! I know that it can take ages but it is defiantly worth the effort!
Hope this helps
Steven
Also, how do you find that ROM it looks great. I think I might try it!
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if it is me you are asking about the rom mate it is really good highly recommend it
I don't know guys... My phone without two cores seems to have more battery with setcpu on demand declocked at 1 ghz... But I mean, this screen... Lowest brightness, consumes a lot... Wanna try some other roms, like X Touch Xtreme or InsertCoin =)
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you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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cant get over 2 and 20mins screen time before my battery dies.
i dont play games just texting,calling,browsing and a bit gps using..
i get 12-15 hours but cant get a good screen time
patomo09 said:
cant get over 2 and 20mins screen time before my battery dies.
i dont play games just texting,calling,browsing and a bit gps using..
i get 12-15 hours but cant get a good screen time
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go into settings-sound and untick the lockscreen sounds and untick the touch keypad sounds to. come out and reboot the phone and charge...let me know if you have those two options ticked
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go into settings-sound and untick the lockscreen sounds and untick the touch keypad sounds to. come out and reboot the phone and charge...let me know if you have those two options ticked
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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What, The Senseless I've meant? Tell me what you think!
P.s. Seems that the Leedroid 6 Rom with Franco kernel it's a good couple for battery life. Read this one, post #33 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648687&page=4
In this Rom, The Jdroid Exodized, I can't try the HTC Battery Test. When I'm trying new one Rom with sense, I will keep in mind to do that.
In the mean time post your suggestions about other roms or other tips for this tooooo much powerful phone =)
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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it is meant to stop the audioout_3 wakelock from draining battery while the screen is off. install betterbatterystats. leave all your stuff in sounds ticked..then charge your battery to the full and seee what i mean once you start testing the battery
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you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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Sorry goku, I want to ask you if you reached the point of 3 hours screen on with everything on, with a day or two with battery! I read that you're using leedroid v 6 with bricked kernel v 0.3, how is battery life with this software? Thanks for the answer!
VillainROM v2 + Franco Kernel.
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Recommend A Rom? Need To Save Battery

Hi,
I just got my HTC One X and I love it. The only downside to it so far is after leaving it on charge overnight im lucky if I get 5-6hrs out of it.
Im on the default OS and ive only installed some apps but im pretty much in the dark where to start.
Can anyone recommend the best rom to use or even just good apps or ways to make my battery life extend?
Thanks and again sorry if this is a noob question.
Have you updated your device with all the official updates? Have you disabled fast-boot, auto-brightness, satellite-GPS and all other wireless options that you don't need and opted for a 30-40% luminance rating (screen remains legible) in Settings? The operating time you get, as stated of 5-6 hrs seems pretty low. I get at least double that with intensive usage, and I mean it, THD Games! Keep in mind however that the screen of HTC ONE X, REALLY, IS the most power-demanding component of our smartphone and there isn't much that can be done about it.
As to your question, Villain rom is considered by many to be battery-friendly although pretty basic. In addition and if you have a rooted/unlocked device (I still haven't rooted mine because I'm perfectly satisfied with it for now), you can also give a try to the SetCore app that can be found i the Apps section of the HOX forum and as its name implied it allows you to control and deactivate cores at will. Also try out the well-known SetCPU app to underclock the processor and get more life from it.
Although, if you've purchased your phone recently, you may simply have to charge some more to condition the battery and then it will get to normal levels, of ~12-15hrs of serious usage.
first of all you do not need a rom that is based on battery life..all roms are the same with just few different modifications to it. choose a rom that YOU like and not based on what other people tell you. Then you can do a few things to get better battery life. as the poster above me stated you can do what he mentioned..but i still with autosync on, GPS on and autobrightness i can manage to get over 3hrs screen on time and over a day and a half battery life. Go into settings and sound and untick touch keypad sounds and lockscreen sound and dialpad sounds...come out and reboot the phone..you might think why but trust me that causes drainage to the battery and keeps the phone wake when the screen is off. second if you use twitter and facebook i would suggest to use them only when you log in..do not have it on in the background. if you still need more help PM if you like
but search for Touch Xtreme rom by Smarberg...that is a good rom based on battery more than anything else.
Rowan88 said:
Hi,
I just got my HTC One X and I love it. The only downside to it so far is after leaving it on charge overnight im lucky if I get 5-6hrs out of it.
Im on the default OS and ive only installed some apps but im pretty much in the dark where to start.
Can anyone recommend the best rom to use or even just good apps or ways to make my battery life extend?
Thanks and again sorry if this is a noob question.
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Feregorn said:
Have you updated your device with all the official updates? Have you disabled fast-boot, auto-brightness, satellite-GPS and all other wireless options that you don't need and opted for a 30-40% luminance rating (screen remains legible) in Settings? The operating time you get, as stated of 5-6 hrs seems pretty low. I get at least double that with intensive usage, and I mean it, THD Games! Keep in mind however that the screen of HTC ONE X, REALLY, IS the most power-demanding component of our smartphone and there isn't much that can be done about it.
As to your question, Villain rom is considered by many to be battery-friendly although pretty basic. In addition and if you have a rooted/unlocked device (I still haven't rooted mine because I'm perfectly satisfied with it for now), you can also give a try to the SetCore app that can be found i the Apps section of the HOX forum and as its name implied it allows you to control and deactivate cores at will. Also try out the well-known SetCPU app to underclock the processor and get more life from it.
Although, if you've purchased your phone recently, you may simply have to charge some more to condition the battery and then it will get to normal levels, of ~12-15hrs of serious usage.
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Im sure all the official updates are done. I use wifi in house and 3g when outdoors. Ive got bluetooth and gps disabled and as of now my screen is off automatic. Ill keep charging like you say to condition the battery but can you overcharge it?
I'm on stock and my battery seems to be OK.
The multitasking on another hand is shockingly bad.
Please someone give me aokp or cm9
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I fixed multitasking with an init.d script that lowers the low memory killer values. All the apps stay in memory now without closing... like they are supposed to.
Some say HTC set the values so high to save battery, but that is crap. No power is used when the app is held in memory, infact less is used as the apps aren't constantly being opened closed and reloaded. I think they just messed up.
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I fixed multitasking with an init.d script that lowers the low memory killer values. All the apps stay in memory now without closing... like they are supposed to.
Some say HTC set the values so high to save battery, but that is crap. No power is used when the app is held in memory, infact less is used as the apps aren't constantly being opened closed and reloaded. I think they just messed up.
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Hey tell one, tell all...
I can't deal with all these reloads
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Juice defender

How many people here use juice defender and what do u think of it? I recently purchased juice defender ultimate and want to know if it is really worth it or not.
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From my own opinion, don't use any app that said for saving battery, I feel useless.
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It's useless tbh
Battery can save only by low brightness, less active connections and less ram consuming apps...
Battery savor apps do it automatically... don't waste your money on this kind of apps... do it manually; like me...
I see thanks for the input
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Any app that claims to save battery only uses more battery by doing processes you can do yourself, so all you are doing is wasting battery instead of saving it...
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Phone: Samsung Galaxy s2 T989 Hercules
Rom: Jedi Jelly 4
Kernel: Insecure Kernel
Radio: LB7 Blaze
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I am going to try and make an app, if anyone wants help this beautiful talented celebrity in making it just message me!
ArianaGrande said:
Any app that claims to save battery only uses more battery by doing processes you can do yourself, so all you are doing is wasting battery instead of saving it...
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well actually it does save battery but it depends on how well you know your device
if you know you can manage it yourself then ok you dont need it but it also helps by turning off data when the screen is off
but really for most people its not worth it and i would highly not recommend it
I used it on another (older) phone and it helped noticeably and I bought the plus version.
On this phone, I'm not so sure. Newer phones seem pretty efficient in the way they turn on/off radios. Currently, I can see JD offering a little benifit if you use it to schedule your syncing times at longer intervals (and you get a lot of email/notifications), and using the night time feature to shut down sync altogether during the night.
On this phone, I've actually had much better results using some customized init.d scripts put together by someone in my other phone's forum. I'm still testing them out, so perhaps I'll have him post it here once I know for sure there aren't any issues.
on this phone, those scripts made much more of a difference than JD did. here's some screen shots of the last two charges. The scripts seems to help most with saving battery when the screen is off. I'm a light user also, and hardly used my phone yesterday.
What are your settings?
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I'm on Darkside Evo rom (ICS 4.04) and the jedi ics kernal basted on 3.0.8
I turned JD off last night before I went to bed and when I got up for work this morning, my battery had dropped from 68% to 48%. With JD on, I usually only get about 9-10% drop. So I'm keeping JD.
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*edit* I had tried that cpu sleeper app (old version I believe), and I think it messed up some things I had going before I installed it, since my batter life dropped off a lot. So I'm going to reflash the rom today and set everything up again without it. I see there is a newer version in the market, so perhaps I'll try that one later.
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For JD, I use the customize profile, and have the mobile data option enabled (turns off when screen is off),
I have the wifi option disabled (since I have it off most of the time anyway). And you can't use wifi calling if it's enabled because it turns wifi off when the screen is off.
sync is at every 30 mins
Night mode from 12am to 6am
I don't use app control, since I didn't want data enabled when I wasn't using my phone
Also, go to the google play store app, and disable automatic updating. I only have it set to update over wifi only. And be sure to disable notifications in any social networking app like facebook.
and use dark wallpapers, since the screen sucks the most juice. Mine are nearly black.
with the jedi kernal, you can use antutu cpu master to underclock and undervolt the phone. I just enabled some minor UV and UC, so we'll see how it does.
I paid for JD a long time ago....before I ever knew about programs like gsam. And when I saw it woke my phone over 200 times in a work day on aggressive mode....I uninstalled it and will never use it again.
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Alot of people talk alot of smack about Juice Defender. I decided to go awhile without it and noticed a considerable difference over a week period. I'll never go without it again. It's reliable easy to use and I've got the free version so it's even better. I know it's not for everyone for whatever reason but I work in a building 10+ hours a day and the fact that it turns my data off for me as needed is great..
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Can any one confirm that this app keeps the phone awake too often than help it going into deep sleep
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Can any one confirm that this app keeps the phone awake too often than help it going into deep sleep
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i can confirm. i am a credible source, check my thanks meter :good:
jcnbama said:
Alot of people talk alot of smack about Juice Defender. I decided to go awhile without it and noticed a considerable difference over a week period. I'll never go without it again. It's reliable easy to use and I've got the free version so it's even better. I know it's not for everyone for whatever reason but I work in a building 10+ hours a day and the fact that it turns my data off for me as needed is great..
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your experience differs from many, pretty much everyone else lol. but whatever works for u. but I'm almost sure that with proper configuration even with the data left on all day u'd get more juice. that being said I'm not u and I don't use your phone so I agree to disagree
well i never trust third party anti viruses and battery savers - for a belief that they are all gimmicks has somehow been implanted into my mind during the early stages of my xda induction. But following the hype all around regarding jb i have had tried it once but didn't notice any difference - neither did it make things worse nor did it make em better - so i gave it up and now believe that a power user has many stuff at his discretion that he could configure to his liking to make extraction of juice from his pack more or less suitable with respect to his usage patterns
just my 2 cents
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
Juice defender is for noobs who don't know how to turn off sync, GPS, data or wifi.
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I'm on Darkside Evo rom (ICS 4.04) and the jedi ics kernal basted on 3.0.8
I turned JD off last night before I went to bed and when I got up for work this morning, my battery had dropped from 68% to 48%. With JD on, I usually only get about 9-10% drop. So I'm keeping JD.
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*edit* I had tried that cpu sleeper app (old version I believe), and I think it messed up some things I had going before I installed it, since my batter life dropped off a lot. So I'm going to reflash the rom today and set everything up again without it. I see there is a newer version in the market, so perhaps I'll try that one later.
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For JD, I use the customize profile, and have the mobile data option enabled (turns off when screen is off),
I have the wifi option disabled (since I have it off most of the time anyway). And you can't use wifi calling if it's enabled because it turns wifi off when the screen is off.
sync is at every 30 mins
Night mode from 12am to 6am
I don't use app control, since I didn't want data enabled when I wasn't using my phone
Also, go to the google play store app, and disable automatic updating. I only have it set to update over wifi only. And be sure to disable notifications in any social networking app like facebook.
and use dark wallpapers, since the screen sucks the most juice. Mine are nearly black.
with the jedi kernal, you can use antutu cpu master to underclock and undervolt the phone. I just enabled some minor UV and UC, so we'll see how it does.
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Can any one confirm that this app keeps the phone awake too often than help it going into deep sleep
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CPU spy and better battery stats will demonstrate that this app does not cause wake locks or cause you're phone to wake to often. All juice defender is is essentially a toggle for data. And I'm apparently not the only one with a positive experience with this app. I put forth an effort to not use it because I trust most the guys in these forums especially ASD's this was just one area where personal experience out weighed others. It's a free app. Heck, test it yourself. Lol. That's the real best answer for anyone.
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Juice defender is for noobs who don't know how to turn off sync, GPS, data or wifi.
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Anyone can turn off simple toggles. The handiest thing about JD is that it's automatic and easy to set up. I don't have to turn on and off all these various things all day. Set it and forget it.
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yeah, it would drive me crazy turning toggles on and off every single time I touched my phone to look at something. JD automates things and limits how often your phone syncs if you set it up properly.
right now I'm sitting at 18 hours up time with 72% battery left. 37 minutes of voice calls and 14 minutes with the screen on. I don't use my phone much at work because I'm in front of a computer all day, so I typically get better battery life than most people who are out-and-about all day.
I just got this phone 2 weeks ago, and I was getting about 18-24 hours total for each charge.. Now that I've got some things figured out, using my init.d scripts and JD, I'm getting about 48 hrs on a single charge.
after this charge, I'll disable JD and see how the phone does. typically at night, my phone loses less than 1% per hour. so maybe 7%-8% battery loss over 10 hours or so. before JD, it was like 15-20% loss over the same amount of time. I figure that's a pretty good test since the phone isn't being touched at all. But I'll test again, just to be sure it wasn't anything else I installed (since I had been trying different roms and apps a lot).
I haven't installed anything new since the weekend, so the phone should be pretty well settled in by now. Next charge, I'll disable JD and report back.
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yeah, it would drive me crazy turning toggles on and off every single time I touched my phone to look at something. JD automates things and limits how often your phone syncs if you set it up properly.
right now I'm sitting at 18 hours up time with 72% battery left. 37 minutes of voice calls and 14 minutes with the screen on. I don't use my phone much at work because I'm in front of a computer all day, so I typically get better battery life than most people who are out-and-about all day.
I just got this phone 2 weeks ago, and I was getting about 18-24 hours total for each charge.. Now that I've got some things figured out, using my init.d scripts and JD, I'm getting about 48 hrs on a single charge.
after this charge, I'll disable JD and see how the phone does. typically at night, my phone loses less than 1% per hour. so maybe 7%-8% battery loss over 10 hours or so. before JD, it was like 15-20% loss over the same amount of time. I figure that's a pretty good test since the phone isn't being touched at all. But I'll test again, just to be sure it wasn't anything else I installed (since I had been trying different roms and apps a lot).
I haven't installed anything new since the weekend, so the phone should be pretty well settled in by now. Next charge, I'll disable JD and report back.
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Here's the thing. I consider myself to be a power user. Maybe I just don't know what some of these other options are. If there's a better way to do it I'm open to more education. I like to learn new things. So let's here it. What else can I use to turn off my mobile data when I turn my screen off to save battery. Something automated and easy to use.
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I can tell u straight up if you're using JD to disable the internal radios and only turn them on once every 30 minutes or so you won't get as much without it to have 48 hours total time off one charge, u must be doing that, or having it switch to airplane mode inbetween certain hours. nI would also think u probably have location awareness on, and switch to WiFi at work.

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