overclock dameges hardware but does it damage device or just battery
The Hardware is the Device or the battery....
every thing you can touch is hardware :3
I've never overclocked a phone from myself... Unfortunately previous experiences with PC overclocking have ended badly with a lot of components breaking, if you know what your doing, I've found the results can be more than worth the risk!
Overclocking your phone will put more stress on your hardware, CPU will attempt to run more bits of information than it's designed for, battery will be pushing out more power to keep up with hardware demand, etc...etc...
Computers are easier to handle in terms of overclocking because you can modify hardware such as liquid cooling or bigger fans to support the extra heat generated from your adjustments. The strain on the hardware will always be there but it's easier to manage than portable devices. Phones on the other hand are restricted in terms of cooling; you may notice a larger amount of heat generated when you're playing games or running Google Maps. In most cases, always remember that heat = bad in terms of most things technology related... Unless it's a toaster oven.
I had a Motorola Droid for over 2 years (before my SE switch) and I had overclocked it to around the 1GHz marker (550MHz stock), the only thing that kept my Droid from blowing up was using a Ultra Low Voltage Kernel and Memory Management. While that may seem reassuring I know in the back of my head that I'm still cutting away at the overall life cycle of my hardware. My phone would heat up anytime I had to travel with GPS and that only reminded me that my phone would explode at any moment... Well, not really explode but that would've been a cool experience.
It's your choice to overclock your phone or not, just keep in mind that even while using a LV Kernel and managing your memory the stress on the CPU, Battery, and RAM is there. (I personally believe) Hardware now-a-days can handle the stress and most likely you'll be getting a new phone in 2-3 years time anyway.
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Overclocking your phone will put more stress on your hardware, CPU will attempt to run more bits of information than it's designed for, battery will be pushing out more power to keep up with hardware demand, etc...etc...
Computers are easier to handle in terms of overclocking because you can modify hardware such as liquid cooling or bigger fans to support the extra heat generated from your adjustments. The strain on the hardware will always be there but it's easier to manage than portable devices. Phones on the other hand are restricted in terms of cooling; you may notice a larger amount of heat generated when you're playing games or running Google Maps. In most cases, always remember that heat = bad in terms of most things technology related... Unless it's a toaster oven.
I had a Motorola Droid for over 2 years (before my SE switch) and I had overclocked it to around the 1GHz marker (550MHz stock), the only thing that kept my Droid from blowing up was using a Ultra Low Voltage Kernel and Memory Management. While that may seem reassuring I know in the back of my head that I'm still cutting away at the overall life cycle of my hardware. My phone would heat up anytime I had to travel with GPS and that only reminded me that my phone would explode at any moment... Well, not really explode but that would've been a cool experience.
It's your choice to overclock your phone or not, just keep in mind that even while using a LV Kernel and managing your memory the stress on the CPU, Battery, and RAM is there. (I personally believe) Hardware now-a-days can handle the stress and most likely you'll be getting a new phone in 2-3 years time anyway.
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The life cycle on phones today is far longer then you would expect. Every processor can handle more speed then the manufacturer clocked it at but they will never release a device with a processor at its full potential. Unless your taking your xperia play and o/c to constant 2ghz you really will never see a degrade in its life. Even o/c'ed the phone will outlast a 2 yr contract.
I recently went back to my OG Droid because my Xplay is torn apart. My droid is 125 min - 1300 max and had the device for 3 years. It have always used the 125 -1300 max with regular voltage with no profiles, yes if your o/c and using navigation its gonna heat up, the droid heats up at 550mhz on navigation with stock kernel , but then again when navigating I would always underclock to keep the heat down. It was never gonna blow up and it will run another few years im sure, its a trustworthy backup !
With all the phones I've had , never had a problem with overclocking , no damage to device or battery, except reboots if clocked to high or reboots if not enough voltage (every device and processor are different though, even the ones with same make and model) which is why you should still be careful, you could get a device that just won't like anything you do to it, but I've never had that problem
it really depends how much you overclock it. most cpus are underclocked especially in phones for battery life reasons. ive been running by pc at about 130% for two years with no issues. now if you double the speed 2ghz (1.9Ghz doomlord kernel) that would mess up you device super fast lol
This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
6000 points on Quadrant? The max I got was around 3400...
Anyway, I think it is normal to a device to overheat and lose performance when it gets hotter. Same for too cold (under 0ºC). The colder, the better the performance. That's why all eletronics should be kept cool.
I could have excused it for overheating during summer with 35C room temperature, but with less than 20C and after just less than one hour?
How is this acceptable? Seriously, what is wrong with this phone?
I am raging uncontrollably right now. I can't believe I was so stupid to get this turdphone TWICE before realizing it was indeed a massive stinking turd.
And yeah, it's not 6000 points but 3500, when it overheats it gets much less, and I notice it's happening even before the score gets displayed, because usually the planet thingy runs at 60FPS but when it's overheated it runs at around 40.
GOD DAMN.
Oh and by the way, if it overheats during gameplay, it also overheats during web browsing or EVERYTHING really. And EVERY SINGLE XPERIA S IN EXISTENCE has this problem. Yours too.
You better not use it too much, or it might overheat and start running slower than a X10. What, you bought your phone to use it? LOLZ.
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definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
About overheat on my phone, yeah it does sometimes. During summer it can get up to 40C (the ambient, not phone), the phone overheats while using for browsing, but I think it's normal.
It gets hot when playing NFS:MW, the performance drops but I just have to leave there for 30 min and its good again.
The phone generally gets up to 43 C when playing...
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definitely rom/kernel problem.. what's rom u use? have u update it to latest .55? u unlock the bootloader? u just b*tching without give any details.
the colder the hardware is not the better the performance, there's something called operating temp. usually u cant use the hardware if it's not in its operating temp (like PC processer, it cant boot when 0 degree Celsius, but booting fine at 30 degrees or -27 (subzero) degrees). if u get lower performance, usually it's because the driver/applications that order the processor to lower itself.
when i was using custom stock rom, i've played Nova 3 with my friends (wifi) for around 45 minutes, and it hasnt got lags, sure the phone was very hot, but the performance wasnt drop. now im using cm10, still got no lags when playing games (Trial Xtreme 3 is very fun & challenging and surely a phone heater, ive spent bout 2 hours playing, got low battery, charging it (thx for the fast charging) for 1 hour and half, then playing it again.. still got no lags )
so, surely the problems is in the rom.. since ur in xda, try fix it urself... if u wont, just f*kin' sell it
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
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If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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Dude. I'm playing it in my room, with 17C room temperature. After less than one hour of that crappy game Temple Run, the phone got hot, and out of nowhere I decided to test if it had clocked down like it happened during the summer, and it did. I'm fully stock, locked bootloader, stock rom with only some bloatware removed. As soon as your phone gets hot, try to run quadrant and you will see your performance will have reduced. I think you can also see your CPU speed has gone down to 800Mhz.
And by the way, like I said before, I'm on my second XPS, and the first one also overheated, so I guess they all do that. I think you may have noticed the phone becoming laggy after some heavy usage sessions.
Anyway, I am not sure if every phone somehow clocks itself down when it gets hot and then starts running like crap until it cools down again, but on all the phones I've used in my life, this is the only one that does it and after such a short period of heavy usage. It's just ridiculous, there should be class actions up sony's ass for this, but it seems like I'm the only one who realized this happens and literally cripples the phone's performance until you stop using it, basically.
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I know how to keep the performance as good as it was cold. But the temperature won't drop i meant it's still warm.
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MarkMRL said:
This summer, I bought this phone but sold it after a week because it had a ton of problems, including overheating. Today, I bought the phone again, because I wanted to give it another chance. Right now, in the middle of winter with less than 20C in my room, I was playing Temple Run when I started noticing the phone was getting warmer. I thought "well, this is normal, I have been playing a 3D game for about 20 minutes, I bet it hasn't overheated like it happened this summer, that one was probably defective too, it's just getting a bit warm, that's all", but guess what? I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets.
I. CAN'T. ****ING. BELIEVE. IT.
I guess it's my fault though, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
This phone is such a piece of crap it gave me the most buyer's remorse I've ever had.
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Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
Felimenta97 said:
If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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If the phone kept at full speed, it would heat even more at the point of damaging the internal components.
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um..that's not the case, AT ALL.
The thermal throttling kicked in so that's why the OP seeing lowered performance.
Please read more about hardware before you post these.
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Piyush Rawal said:
Idiots shouldn't buy smart phones. That's all i can say.
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Ooo....Internet smart guy! From India! Wow what a deal!
MarkMRL said:
I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
OP, buy another phone then, problem solved, you're welcome. :good:
God help you it you bought a S3, but seriously time of year is not gonna change a overheating issue and 35-40 is the ideal temp for optimal performance
And I know 4 people in IT, and their knowledge is pretty much on par with yours judging by your posts
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I am not retarded, I know how overheating works, I'm an IT technician and I deal with overheating bleeping computers all day long.
The point is, the phone SHOULD NOT overheat and clock itself down to half the speed after just a few minutes of gameplay. This is ridiculous.
Why are you missing the point?
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Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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It overheats, and it should, because you're running a 3D game. Again, it clocks down to avoid bigger overheat and damage. My phone performance keeps the same after 1 hour of playing NFS:MW. It just need a few minutes to start the processes again, since the game use it all.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
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If you're dealing with overheating computers all day long then you're doing something wrong, Maybe time for a career change, Probably same with phone.
Love it when people rage.
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Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
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Of course the phone should get hot, and if it does the CPU should def do something about it and underclock
Also why do you have to swear so much? girlfriend problems? limp noodle?
also if ur going to buy something to test its gaming prowess, buy a psp or something
my advice? stop being a moron.
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"I quitted temple run, ran a Quadrant session, and yeah, it had overheated and reduced its performance like it happened last time. Halved performance due to overheating, exactly like it happened this summer, 3000 points instead of the usual 6000+ it gets."
thats not permanent, its the app staying in cahced processes just in case it needs relaunching. try ending the process and try benchmarking again
you find removing it from the ram as a process may help
i just ran quadrant on mine
its warm cause im playing music and have tons of crap open. it hasnt slowed down. and its score was 2937. i dont see the issue though? the number means nothing on its own. its a potential comaprison tool
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You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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Which temperature separates heating and overheating, then?
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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It's 45 nm, dual core and 1.5 gHz. ofc it got hot. But not overheating. When the hardware is overheating, it'll turn off, u should know that.. I said again, it's the rom/kernel that asked the procie to lower itself when in some temp. mine? I never have this problem since in cm10. Read my posts again. And surely I benchmarked over and over again (antutu) and the scores are vary, but not very much (I even got Max scored at my fifth try, the phone was hot though, but it was alright)
And if u search about xperia s overheating, there are some talks (even here in xda) bout performance hits, etc.. but it was way back there... I thought ppl already learn how to handle this... well, I thought wrong.
Ang if u thought the phone is hot, try playing with HTC one x...
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MarkMRL said:
Pffft. Do you even know what you are talking about? It SHOULD NOT overheat, only heat up a bit. Playing a game or doing anything CPU intensive should not OVERHEAT the phone, only heat it up a bit. There is a difference between heating up and OVERheating. Overheating means there is something wrong with the cooling solution, and should not happen unless the cooling system or the chip itself (this case, since a cellphone doesn't have a cooling system) is faulty. Learn what 'overheating' means.
Can you even read? I FIX overheating and damaged computers for a living. I know how this stuff works, and from the looks of it, much better than 90% of the guys here.
You also have trouble reading and understanding basic english. If I play a game, then quit out of it, and then run quadrant and I get half the score, there is something wrong, that being the CPU clocking itself down to 800Mhz (instead of 1500) because of overheating. OVER HEATING, not simply heating up. Over heating is NOT normal. If I only had too much stuff open, the CPU wouldn't have clocked itself down to 800Mhz, it would have ran at 1500 but with reduced performance in quadrant because of high memory and CPU workload in background stuff.
Anyway, I'm done with you guys. Educate yourselves on how processors, operating systems and electronic devices work then come back.
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i said remove it as a cahed process then run it again.
also why run a benchmark. its a hypothtical scoring number