Constant switch between 3g and H (DZ) - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey...
so i've been having this weird behavior where the phone would constantly drop from H to 3g and go back to H even when i would be getting full H signal...
no matter which ROM i flashed the same issue kept happening... same goes for the radio I tried flashing two different radios and the same problem happened ... any body else experiencing something similar?

Yep, I have the same "issue". Its not really an issue since the phone only shows H when its actually transferring data and will show 3G otherwise. I almost don't notice a lag between the switching anymore, if there is any...
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testerman123 said:
Yep, I have the same "issue". Its not really an issue since the phone only shows H when its actually transferring data and will show 3G otherwise.
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Wrong. I have a H (now 4G with tmobile gingerbread leak) always unless I'm in an area that doesn't have 4g. Maybe on custom roms that happens but not on stock froyo that came with it(tmobile g2) and GB leak
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testerman123 said:
Yep, I have the same "issue". Its not really an issue since the phone only shows H when its actually transferring data and will show 3G otherwise. I almost don't notice a lag between the switching anymore, if there is any...
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Same here. Mine will always show 3G unless I'm transferring data. I don't notice any lag at all, and it's always been like this across different roms. My girlfriends myTouch 3G does the same thing as well so I don't think it's an issue, maybe it's the radio trying to save battery, but I really wouldn't know.
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The stock rom will always show H even though it may not be until you start transferring data. Custom roms normally can tell the difference unlike stock is what a few devs have told me about it, so I wouldn't worry
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This has been discussed before on the forum and is normal behaviour for the stock DZ rom. I think the conclusion was clever power saving. As HSDPA and HSPA+ are releases of the 3G standard it is normally seamless to go between them so when data is active it will try and go to H while idling at the more power efficient 3G.
This behaviour can be configured which is why some roms show signals differently. The stock behavior of the G2 shows H all the time i think even though its dropping to 3G.
Craig
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Is Anyone Else having This Problem??

Is anyone else having a problem with the 3g and H "HSDA" signal mines keeps switching between both the 3g and H and when it goes into 3g my internet doesn't work until the little H pops up again "internet pages/videos don't load" I have the signal type switched to wcmda or whatever only but that doesn't seem to help, is anyone else having this problem, please help :-\
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I think this is par for the course. On both my G1 and MT3gS, anytime I was running a custom rom, the 3g symbol was there always, but when data would be used, it switched to the H symbol. Has not been a problem for me as of yet though.
Well mine switches from H to 3g when I'm using the internet or watching a video, its kind of anoying when watching videos cuz they stop when this happens, thanks for the reply by the way
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Oh, well if you're using data and it is going from H to 3g while actively surfing/streaming, then I don't know what to tell ya. Does this happen only in certain geographic locations? Could be carrier specific...
Yeh it happens almost everywhere but of course less in some places then others.
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sxufeastkilla said:
Yeh it happens almost everywhere but of course less in some places then others.
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I have that problem in my house, but nowhere else. Probably signal related. I'll be surfing the web, downloading a file, whatever, and the H will switch back to 3G and the connection will go idle, but I don't think that the idleness is caused by the switch to 3G, I think the switch to 3G is caused by the idleness, and the idleness is caused by weak signal or malfunctioning cell tower. Something like that.
I was thinking the same thing, they told me that they where having issues in many places because they are upgrading or whatever their towers for their new 4& network....
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sxufeastkilla said:
Well mine switches from H to 3g when I'm using the internet or watching a video, its kind of anoying when watching videos cuz they stop when this happens, thanks for the reply by the way
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Turn your phone upside down. That way it switches from 3G to H!
lol just kidding
Lmfao this kid
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Data needs to shape up,

I've had my g2 for about 4 months now and I'm quite happy with it. Rooted with perm s-off, running about 4 different roms, blahblahblah. I have the full data plan for my phone, and I've used it passed the data cap through all my billing cycles so far.
However, I live in hawaii. The data here is unbearably slow. Using speedtest, I see people with scores of 4mb down and 1mb up.
I average ALMOST 0.3mb down 0.9mb up. that's with 3g on, if you couldn't guess.
I've already tried flashing different radios for my phone, but it only minamally increases my data speed for a huge increase in battery consumption.
Am I stuck here, to wander a 2g world with my almost-but-not-really-4g phone? Help me out if you'd care to lend a hand, I'm kind of sick of seeing the buffer icon permanently on youtube.
Toodles.
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The phone is 4g. That doesn't mean your area has it though. Have you bothered to call you service provider to make sure you are connected to the proper tower? I had data speeds like yours but found my phone was trying to connect to a tower in a completely different city.
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Spastic909 said:
The phone is 4g. That doesn't mean your area has it though. Have you bothered to call you service provider to make sure you are connected to the proper tower? I had data speeds like yours but found my phone was trying to connect to a tower in a completely different city.
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There's kind of no tower in, around, or relatively close to hawaii. The closest tower is in L.A I believe, which is the one I'm connected to. So no matter where I go on the island, the signal stays around there.
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You're not getting 2G speeds. 2G speeds is edge which is at BEST and THEORETICALLY a little under 250 kbps. You're doing decent for 3G. If it was a 4G connection you'd see "H" instead of "3G".
ohshootrawr said:
There's kind of no tower in, around, or relatively close to hawaii. The closest tower is in L.A I believe, which is the one I'm connected to. So no matter where I go on the island, the signal stays around there.
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That doesn't seem possible. there has to be some sort of cell towers on one of the islands there. Carriers use each others towers at times to. I know the internet out there can get screwy at times so I understand your frustrations...write your local congress person lol
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That doesn't seem possible. there has to be some sort of cell towers on one of the islands
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You're right, the OP can't possibly be correct about there being no cell towers in Hawaii. The max range of a GSM tower is about 22 miles in the best of conditions, and almost always much less. Towers have to be placed as close as 1/2 mile apart in some terrain or urban conditions. 1 to 2 miles apart is average in many conditions.
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jouva said:
You're not getting 2G speeds. 2G speeds is edge which is at BEST and THEORETICALLY a little under 250 kbps. You're doing decent for 3G. If it was a 4G connection you'd see "H" instead of "3G".
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I actually do have the H. I wouldn't be bugging out so much if I was running speedtest with only 3g xD
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ohshootrawr said:
I actually do have the H. I wouldn't be bugging out so much if I was running speedtest with only 3g xD
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Is your phone rooted? If not, it's gonna show H no matter if you are on 3G of HSPA+.
tazz9690 said:
Is your phone rooted? If not, it's gonna show H no matter if you are on 3G of HSPA+.
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I'm rooted sir.
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ohshootrawr said:
I'm rooted sir.
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Even if you're rooted, that symbol will not show unless you've got a theme or rom that is set to show HSPA+ in the status bar.
Download mobile signal widget, it will tell you whether or not you are actually on HSPA+.
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Even if you're rooted, that symbol will not show unless you've got a theme or rom that is set to show HSPA+ in the status bar.
Download mobile signal widget, it will tell you whether or not you are actually on HSPA+.
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I'm running the Ultimate Droid, CM7, LiquidMetal, MT4G, and MIUI roms on my phone. All of them shows hspa in the status bar. Except for miui, but miui is weird. Haha. The widget said I'm connected to hspa+.
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3g times out?

I was wondering if anyone else has/had this problem. My evo tends to time out on 3g, especially when I download a rom. The 3g indicator just goes dark and will stay that way for a couple minutes. It wouldn't be a big problem but I don't have hi speed where I live so every Rom I download is through my phone internet. When the 3g times out it causes the Rom download to fail. Has anyone else had this problem and what can you do to fix it? It's irritating having to download a rom 5 plus times
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j_shelton1988 said:
I was wondering if anyone else has/had this problem. My evo tends to time out on 3g, especially when I download a rom. The 3g indicator just goes dark and will stay that way for a couple minutes. It wouldn't be a big problem but I don't have hi speed where I live so every Rom I download is through my phone internet. When the 3g times out it causes the Rom download to fail. Has anyone else had this problem and what can you do to fix it? It's irritating having to download a rom 5 plus times
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This only happened to me when I was on stock. Now that I'm on a custom ROM, it doesn't happen anymore. I notice you are on a custom rom, so I'm sure that's not the problem.
It may be a coverage problem. It also happens to me when I'm switching from 3g to 1X, so that may be it.
The area I'm in has almost full signal. I've actually experienced this more on custom roms then when i was on stock.
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j_shelton1988 said:
The area I'm in has almost full signal. I've actually experienced this more on custom roms then when i was on stock.
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Have you tried flashing the more updated radios, etc?
Just did. Will report back to see if it helps
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j_shelton1988 said:
Just did. Will report back to see if it helps
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Any update on this? Just was curious if this did the trick for you.
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My 3g does not work on roms outside of stock sense roms. I've read where others says sense roms always show 3g even if you are getting a 1x signal but my wife has an evo 4g, unrooted, as well and my 1x is way slower then her 3g signal. I 1x signal won't load web pages in most cases. I downloaded the most recent OTA and then flashed a rom after words but still no 3g.
Any update on this? Just was curious if this did the trick for you.
After I flashed the new radios etc. I tried to download a rom overnight. When I got up it said download failed, then I remembered to update prl and what not. After i updated things were ok until I tried out my 4G. I was having major issues with it not downloading. It was extremely slow. I was using the shooter ROM when these problems started so I flashed another ROM and haven't had any problems so far. Is it possible for a rom to affect 3g and 4G performance?
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Bravo78 said:
My 3g does not work on roms outside of stock sense roms. I've read where others says sense roms always show 3g even if you are getting a 1x signal but my wife has an evo 4g, unrooted, as well and my 1x is way slower then her 3g signal. I 1x signal won't load web pages in most cases. I downloaded the most recent OTA and then flashed a rom after words but still no 3g.
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This isn't necessarily true. Most custom ROMs show 1x. However the stock does not. Also, 1x should be slower than 3g.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear but that was my point. Thats what most people "say" about roms showing 1x and my 1x is slower then my wife 3g so I know its not that we don't have 3g in our area, its the rom. Right now I'm using R2R-green-R3, which has a 4g LTE icon and faster then the 1x rom I was using before. I flashed the honeycomb theme over it looks great and works great!
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Bravo78 said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear but that was my point. Thats what most people "say" about roms showing 1x and my 1x is slower then my wife 3g so I know its not that we don't have 3g in our area, its the rom. Right now I'm using R2R-green-R3, which has a 4g LTE icon and faster then the 1x rom I was using before. I flashed the honeycomb theme over it looks great and works great!
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It shouldn't be the rom causing you to get 1x, have you tried updating prl/profile? I've run multiple custom roms and never had a problem. Areas where I know get 1x show it, but areas that get 3g show 3g and have 3g speeds
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I did up date the prl/profile but still no 3g. I'm at 3g speed now so its not a problem. Maybe I did something wrong on the other rom?
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Signal question

Hey guys, quick question. I can't get the "H" or 4G icon anymore. It stays at 3G no matter where I am, even on places I always got the H. I have tried several roms, no difference. I am on the sense 3.5 beta from virtuous right now. Any ideas?
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coachmoore said:
Hey guys, quick question. I can't get the "H" or 4G icon anymore. It stays at 3G no matter where I am, even on places I always got the H. I have tried several roms, no difference. I am on the sense 3.5 beta from virtuous right now. Any ideas?
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Its only going to be on H/4G when actively using data; when not actively using data it will drop back down to 3G to save battery.
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Thanks for the response, but I know. Usually it does, however, now it's not doing it.
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same happened to me. your still getting the 4g speeds it just says 3g. i tested it. it is annoying though
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jellybean rom questions??

ok so on these jellybean roms, my messages never send half the time even when i have full data bars or signal bars also my data always jumps back and forth between 3g and hspa and i know for a fact im in hspa region cause on a ics rom it says 4g all the time this sh*%$ getting annoying anyone know why it does this only on jellybean roms, is it cause the source code isnt fully available or something
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ok so on these jellybean roms, my messages never send half the time even when i have full data bars or signal bars also my data always jumps back and forth between 3g and hspa and i know for a fact im in hspa region cause on a ics rom it says 4g all the time this sh*%$ getting annoying anyone know why it does this only on jellybean roms, is it cause the source code isnt fully available or something
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Find a jellybean radio and flash it, should fix your problem. There is a couple threads on radio's in development section.
Hi, I'm currently using a cm10 rom and I flashed the UVLH radio. JB works smoothly for me and calls are clear and messages arrive lromptly even. Maybe just flash a new radio one that's okay for ICS
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Still bouncing back n forth between 3g and 4g what's the jellybean radio?
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Still bouncing back n forth between 3g and 4g what's the jellybean radio?
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There is NO JB radio. 3G and 4G are almost the same thing. I do not believe T-Mobile phones with 4G can acquire 4G, as our 4G is a fake 4G. It is more a 3.5G. So I believe that it is just that the system recognizes the signal as 3G, but is really 4G.
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alphadog32 said:
There is NO JB radio. 3G and 4G are almost the same thing. I do not believe T-Mobile phones with 4G can acquire 4G, as our 4G is a fake 4G. It is more a 3.5G. So I believe that it is just that the system recognizes the signal as 3G, but is really 4G.
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Oh well damn why on ICS ROMs tho its says 4g all the time same thing basically
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