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Yeah, after I've taken such great care of my Incredible, I made a big mistake today. I was looking through a closet for a box of trashbags, and had the flashlight app on. I found the bags, and thought I had turned the flashlight off, but in fact I had not. I slipped the phone into my pocket.
Well, 5min later I feel a burning in my pants, sure enough the back plate and LEDs had melted under the high heat and fused together. The leds are melted down around the backplate, which has warped around the holes. It's only noticeable if you look kinda close. But, I can't get the plate off. I freaked out.
So, I know a few options, I can pay the $100 deductible and get a replacement phone from my insurance. I want to know, will it be the same hardware? (AMOLED)
I also can attempt to cut the phone apart with a small knife, as it has only fused around the leds. I can live with melted leds (they still work).
My only other question is: what is the possibility of smooth-talking the verizon store rep into replacing the phone under my 1 year warranty? I can nandroid, then get it back to stock before I take it in.
Thanks guys, I put so much time and money into this phone, god I hate when things like this happen.
i would call verizon and tell them there is a problem with the leds and there not working correctly that you cant get the cover off.
Sounds Like A Warranty Replacement To Me.
That's hilarious and sad at the same time. I would call up verizon and have a what if hypothetical conversion about this. Most likely if you get a new Dinc it won't be amoled.
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were you using the htc flashlight?
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pete_kowalski83 said:
were you using the htc flashlight?
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Unfortunately not, I was using Torch from Cyanogenmod. However, I'm sure I could get the same results if I left the HTC app on long enough, as Torch wasn't even on full brightness. It's really weird.
So the general consensus is to call verizon? Not go to a store?
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Unfortunately not, I was using Torch from Cyanogenmod. However, I'm sure I could get the same results if I left the HTC app on long enough, as Torch wasn't even on full brightness. It's really weird.
So the general consensus is to call verizon? Not go to a store?
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I think going to a store might be best. Do a nandroid, and restore to stock. Make sure you s-on, and pull your SD card out for good measure xD Then show it to a representative and tell them you were using the flashlight app and you put it in your pocket blah blah.
There is this thing called the manufacturer's warranty that covers your phone for 1 year from hardware defects. And that is certainly a hardware defect. The dude will fill do everything for you, and a new one will be sent to you. Don't worry, if you have AMOLED now, you should get a Certified Like-New AMOLED. (Some Verizon internal memo was leaked a few months ago confirming this, and I can personally confirm)
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I think going to a store might be best. Do a nandroid, and restore to stock. Make sure you s-on, and pull your SD card out for good measure xD Then show it to a representative and tell them you were using the flashlight app and you put it in your pocket blah blah.
There is this thing called the manufacturer's warranty that covers your phone for 1 year from hardware defects. And that is certainly a hardware defect. The dude will fill do everything for you, and a new one will be sent to you. Don't worry, if you have AMOLED now, you should get a Certified Like-New AMOLED. (Some Verizon internal memo was leaked a few months ago confirming this, and I can personally confirm)
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it a hardware defect, as this was not normal wear and tear. LEDs typically do a very good job of heat dissipation, but putting an illuminated one in your pocket is going to allow for an unnatural buildup of heat. Rather than a defect, it's simple physics.
For the OP- definitely restore to stock and take it in for a warranty exchange. However, you may want to leave out the part about having the LEDs on while in your pocket.
Turn flashlight back on for few minutes so that it it melts again and pull the phone apart.
Aftermarket light or not, I had no idea it got that hot: 0
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You placed an RF transmitter next to your goods? ..or ..are you a hot woman?
luvit said:
You placed an RF transmitter next to your goods? ..or ..are you a hot woman?
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Hahaha I'm no woman. I guess you could call me reckless/uninformed. I haven't seen much hard information that suggests radiation is high enough to cause problems.
And thanks for the responses. This weekend I'll go back to stock, and bring it in to the verizon store in my area. Just double checking, I'm going to tell them that I was using the htc flashlight app, but should I tell them that I had it on for a long time, short time, medium amount of time? I'll know to say that I felt the phone starting to get hot, and then turned it over and saw the melted plastic.
I do that all the time whilst drinking out of a plastic bottle that I left in my car during 100 degree temps.
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You placed an RF transmitter next to your goods? ..or ..are you a hot woman?
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the SAME thing happened to me on my inc! only i caught it before it actually fused my backplate to the phone! my backplate still got melted though, and the chasis around the LED's. I was also using the torch on CM 6.1, it truned on in my pocket since I had the torch app in quick launch/widget area of the notification bar. I also had the torch set to "High/Death Ray" so im sure that didnt help either!
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Turn flashlight back on for few minutes so that it it melts again and pull the phone apart.
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Did the OP not read this? This is your solution dude. As soon as you take it off blow on it so it cools quickly and just snap the cover back on, problem solved.
So still running a froyo based Rom and whenever I make a phone call it always defaults with speaker phone on. Just started doing this a couple days ago. Tried rebooting, cleared cache and still the same. Any suggestions?
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If its caused by the car dock mode I think I found a fix.
I turned my phone off, cleaned out the USB port on my phone and bridged all the connections in the charging port with a piece of aluminum foil then removed the aluminum foil and rebooted it.
It happened after buying a charger from five and below. I'm thinking its caused by poor insulation allowing static charges on pins that aren't supposed to have a charge on them, however, I am not sure what causes it...
Either way, cleaning didn't work but the crumbled up piece of aluminum foil did the trick. Give it a try and let me know if it helps so I can chalk it up to actual fix or random chance.
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If its caused by the car dock mode I think I found a fix.
I turned my phone off, cleaned out the USB port on my phone and bridged all the connections in the charging port with a piece of aluminum foil then removed the aluminum foil and rebooted it.
It happened after buying a charger from five and below. I'm thinking its caused by poor insulation allowing static charges on pins that aren't supposed to have a charge on them, however, I am not sure what causes it...
Either way, cleaning didn't work but the crumbled up piece of aluminum foil did the trick. Give it a try and let me know if it helps so I can chalk it up to actual fix or random chance.
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Well the car panel app starts up when I reboot the phone so I unchecked the automatic start and the app don't open anymore. So I basically just take the foil and shove up in the port then plug the charger in?
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I had the same problem just a few days ago. I took my phone in after having putting it back to stock (Stock Rom and S-ON). They ran the diagnostics and then replaced my phone for $35 under the 1yr warranty. Their first suspicion is water damage but if your water markers are in perfect condition and your phone looks like its in good shape then they might replace it. My 1yr launch day phone looked like the day i got it so they replaced it without any questions. Good Luck!
==My Original Thread about this same issue==
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14400365
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Well the car panel app starts up when I reboot the phone so I unchecked the automatic start and the app don't open anymore. So I basically just take the foil and shove up in the port then plug the charger in?
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Ok, let me post very clear instructions on what I did. If your car dock comes on when you turn the phone on , this is the exact same problem I had.
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I DO NOT GUARANTEE THIS WILL WORK AND I AM NO RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DAMAGE YOUR PHONE. Below is exactly how my phone was fixed once and for all.
Here are very specific instructions on how I fixed mine:
1. Power off phone
2. Remove battery entirely
3. Get toothpick, CAREFULLY and GENTLY clean all debris in the port, I pulled out a ton of dust.
4. If you have compressed air, use it and clean it out with that as well
5. Take a piece of aluminum foil, crumple it up a bit and carefully stick it in your charging port and bridge all the tiny pins together, BE GENTLE but kinda move it around and make sure all the pins get touched by the aluminum foil at the same time.
6. Remove aluminum foil from charging port and discard.
7. Put battery back into phone
8. Power on and hope your phone doesn't have its speaker on next time you make a call.
Good luck.
Well apparently my phone must be f'd up. Tried the fix posted above a few times with no luck tried 3 different chargers with no luck. So I guess maybe I should unroot and maybe get the 3d. Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Thanks for this post, I was about to post the same thing. Ended up doing the tin foil trick (took some from the hat I wear on my head). No more answering on speaker phone
So the strangest thing happened. Made a call before lunch and phone went straight to speaker as usual..went to lunch and left phone in the car, car was hot when I came back went to make another call and no speaker lol. Plugged in headphones and was able to control volume. And so far made couple more calls and all is good. Seems it took a week for it to work itself out idk.
Its def the charging port causing the issue. Had the same thing happen to mine last week on my Launch Day evo (Hardware 0002).
The link to that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14397719#post14397719
-If you dont feel like reading that thread then ill give the short version.
I tried cleaning it out with electronics cleaner and it didnt help. Heck, i used a bit to much on my last attempt (of 4) and it got under the screen. The phone still worked like a champ but i hated that water look. So i claimed Ins on it and paid the 100 on it.
I should have been smart and had unrooted and taken it to the sprint store and paid 35 for the warranty.
Live n learn.
Sonjiin said:
Its def the charging port causing the issue. Had the same thing happen to mine last week on my Launch Day evo (Hardware 0002).
The link to that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14397719#post14397719
-If you dont feel like reading that thread then ill give the short version.
I tried cleaning it out with electronics cleaner and it didnt help. Heck, i used a bit to much on my last attempt (of 4) and it got under the screen. The phone still worked like a champ but i hated that water look. So i claimed Ins on it and paid the 100 on it.
I should have been smart and had unrooted and taken it to the sprint store and paid 35 for the warranty.
Live n learn.
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Thanks for the info..I spoke to soon yesterday as the problem returned. So I guess I unroot and get the EVO 3d on the 24th.
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Hard reset worked for me
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had same issue, will try tinfoil trick.
In the mean time i found the app NoDock, loads a kernel module to disable dock entirely--works to stop dock and speakerphone nonsense.
Read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15199350&postcount=18
slackard said:
had same issue, will try tinfoil trick.
In the mean time i found the app NoDock, loads a kernel module to disable dock entirely--works to stop dock and speakerphone nonsense.
Read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15199350&postcount=18
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I'll second the NoDock. I bought the paid app and it was the only one of a few I found that worked reliably. No issues for me anymore. I'm not bothering with replacing my phone at Sprint as I plan to leave them as soon as Galaxy S2 comes out anyway.
This was a bug caused apparently by Skype for me, in fact almost all the bugs on my EVO 3D are coming from Skype.
No Skype running or logged out, no problem.
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I'll second the NoDock. I bought the paid app and it was the only one of a few I found that worked reliably.
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ThanK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ThanK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That app worked for me, But its caused by a broken charging port, I unrooted my phone and s-on took it sprint showed them the car dock problem and the speaker on straight into calls and they replaced my evo.
So lately I've been having problems with my DI2. Occasionally, when I unlock, it appears to receive what it thinks is a touch at a lower portion, usually around the middle of the lower portion, of the screen, and this results in things like Home being activated, or the app drawer. This will happen even if no part of my hand is near the bottom of the phone (front, back, and sides).
More recently, it has become and indication of random touching on lower parts of the screen. I've had it completely freak out and type random stuff in input fields. When it gets really bad, the touchscreen stops responding, but I can lock and unlock to get it back, usually.
This has made typing in portrait mode quite difficult, and it's becoming very annoying.
Is my touchscreen digitizer failing, or is it possible there's some sensitivity adjustment I can make? Is it possible it's related to static or something and I can use a cleaning solution or something to correct it?
I really want to avoid paying a lot to fix this issue. I've already seen places where I can buy a replacement digitizer if that is needed, but it's not cheap. I'm really hoping this phone will hold out a lot longer than it is right now as it's been an otherwise good phone.
You may want to try recalibrating your screen.
Go to Settings > Language & keyboard > Touch Input > Text input > Calibration tool.
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You may want to try recalibrating your screen.
Go to Settings > Language & keyboard > Touch Input > Text input > Calibration tool.
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i think this only calibrates the keyboard. there is an .apk around somewhere that will calibrate the touch screen, some roms have it built into the settings.
andybones said:
i think this only calibrates the keyboard. there is an .apk around somewhere that will calibrate the touch screen, some roms have it built into the settings.
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oh ok. gotcha. Makes sense
I'll see what I can find.
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I'll see what I can find.
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If not just unroot and send it to vzw
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Well, I'm not having much hope with calibration apps. This looks like a very device specific thing, which is understandable. Besides, it doesn't really feel like a calibration issue. When it's not going haywire, touch accuracy seems fine.
I'm not really keen on going for a replacement. Besides, my physical modifications (antenna improvement, improved access to power button, etc) may prevent that
If I can't find a cheap/free solution, I'll just jump on replacing the digitizer. This is not a task that bothers me, was just hoping someone came across this issue and found a better solution.
Harbor Freight has the hot air blower for $12.00.
This may be a dumb question but i didn't see you mention it. Did you try a factory reset? Perhaps you have an app or something conflicting with screen response somewhere in there.
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I seem to have dead spots once in a while on my touchscreen. Doesnt really effect day to day usage but can be annoying when trying to click something. Like a link on a webpage, sometimes I will have to scroll up or down to move the link before Im able to click it.. spot seems to be centrally located but has happened in a few places.
MJL99 said:
This may be a dumb question but i didn't see you mention it. Did you try a factory reset? Perhaps you have an app or something conflicting with screen response somewhere in there.
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Not a dumb question at all. I did not mention it, and it's completely valid. However, I have gone through a couple of full resets since the issue started, and the behavior has persisted.
In fact, I have tried a couple of different firmwares in the time it has started. I had thought maybe a build of CM7 might have caused it, but the ICS builds have the same behavior, as well as a couple other firmwares that I don't remember the name of offhand.
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Harbor Freight has the hot air blower for $12.00.
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Can you elaborate?
mastamoon said:
I seem to have dead spots once in a while on my touchscreen. Doesnt really effect day to day usage but can be annoying when trying to click something. Like a link on a webpage, sometimes I will have to scroll up or down to move the link before Im able to click it.. spot seems to be centrally located but has happened in a few places.
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For me, it's not an issue with dead spots. For one thing, the issue is intermittent and in varying degrees of severity. Usually when it happens it's just something at the bottom activates and I can cancel it out and carry on with my session. Occasionally, though, it just goes haywire, as though a palm is resting on it or something is touching random places rapidly.
So far I've been able to kill the haywire behavior by locking the display, wiping it down a bit, unlocking the display, then continuing on. I haven't had to take any more drastic measures than that. It's still annoying in that it can happen while typing a message and I have to go back and clean up the mess it leaves, or it might monkey around with an app.
It seems as though there might be some static buildup or something because it seems worst shortly after taking it out of my pocket. If that's the case, I wonder if I can ground it out, or do something to dissipate it.
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Not a dumb question at all. I did not mention it, and it's completely valid. However, I have gone through a couple of full resets since the issue started, and the behavior has persisted.
In fact, I have tried a couple of different firmwares in the time it has started. I had thought maybe a build of CM7 might have caused it, but the ICS builds have the same behavior, as well as a couple other firmwares that I don't remember the name of offhand.
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Sorry i didn't notice you mention it anywhere. Fwiw i get lockscreen issues kinda like you describe. i use the slide lock on cm7 and when i go to slide right to unlock, before it gets to the dot the lock releases without me lifting my finger. I know i don't have a dead spot because it only does it on the lockscreen and relocking and waking the screen fixes it. Only happens on cm7 and why i thought it might be an issue like that.
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Can you elaborate?
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If you need to replace the screen/digitizer you will need to heat up the glue to remove the screen. Normally a heat gun is recommended
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Bro I just went thru the same thing same week. And I've tried all the suggestion here, in the end it was the digitizer. I call Verizon and explain the problem and they are sending me another Dinc2. It sucks cause now you have to unroot and restore (s on) (which for me was a bit of a *****) to send the phone back , but trust me at some point the entire bottom part of your screen will not respond to touch.. You'll only be able the answer calls from the lock screen and to hang up you'll have to do so thru the pulldown bar. And the biggest problem will be you won't be able to access your key pad. Sorry bro but thoses are the facts....I'm waiting for the replacement as I type this.
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If you need to replace the screen/digitizer you will need to heat up the glue to remove the screen. Normally a heat gun is recommended
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It's not held in with a normal ribbon cable lock? It would be strange if they used a glue. I've been inside many of these devices in the past going back some 10 years (including at a repair center) and didn't face glued ribbon cables (either solder or ribbon cable lock).
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It's not held in with a normal ribbon cable lock? It would be strange if they used a glue. I've been inside many of these devices in the past going back some 10 years (including at a repair center) and didn't face glued ribbon cables (either solder or ribbon cable lock).
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They are held in with a ribbon cable lock but the screen and digitizer are glued onto the phone itself, like the metal part that holds all the parts
So I wasn't able to find a software solution. Not sure what's causing it, but it's causing some unwanted issues (hang up call and it immediately calls someone else based on a false touch). I ordered the parts I need and will report if this fixes my problems.
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So I wasn't able to find a software solution. Not sure what's causing it, but it's causing some unwanted issues (hang up call and it immediately calls someone else based on a false touch). I ordered the parts I need and will report if this fixes my problems.
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Where did you order from, how much did you pay?
Be sure to watch both of those vids on utube.
I live where the relative humidity is around 15% most of the time.
Still I notice that when I pull my phone out of my pocket, it has moisture all over the back where it was pressing against my leg.
I found putting it in a soft cover pouch keeps most of that under control.
Just for the heck of it , try putting the phone in a jar of un cooked rice for a few hrs.
Battery and cards removed, jar sealed tight.
If you have another phone to transfer your calls to that would be better.
If you are like me and your skin oil transfers to your phone allot, use a fine tooth brush around the area where the screen meets the housing.
Avoid pushing any debris further into the unit. Use brisk outward strokes.
If none of that produces any favorable results, look for a hot air gun or a blow dryer.
Keep us updated...
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Where did you order from, how much did you pay?
Be sure to watch both of those vids on utube.
I live where the relative humidity is around 15% most of the time.
Still I notice that when I pull my phone out of my pocket, it has moisture all over the back where it was pressing against my leg.
I found putting it in a soft cover pouch keeps most of that under control.
Just for the heck of it , try putting the phone in a jar of un cooked rice for a few hrs.
Battery and cards removed, jar sealed tight.
If you have another phone to transfer your calls to that would be better.
If you are like me and your skin oil transfers to your phone allot, use a fine tooth brush around the area where the screen meets the housing.
Avoid pushing any debris further into the unit. Use brisk outward strokes.
If none of that produces any favorable results, look for a hot air gun or a blow dryer.
Keep us updated...
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I've worked in microelectronics in the past and know quite a bit about moisture control, static control, etc. I had to help manage a sizable clean room at one point.
Unfortunately it's possible that my digitizer is just flawed and the flaws are just now coming out. I don't think it's moisture, but rather most likely electrostatic. I live in a rather dry place.
I normally would not use a screen protector, but I might consider it now as it might add an extra layer of insulation from static in my pocket.
The digitizer I found was from a seller on Amazon. For all of the parts needed (I don't have the tools for properly working on this device), including the small double sided tape, I spent around $32.
The double sided tape comes in a big roll so if anyone else needs to do this kind of repair, I will ship the remaining tape for the cost of shipping (this should save you about $5).
Many One X owners, including me, has be having from display/screen issues that are quite annoying. And apparently, none has a definite answer as to what the main cause is. hTC has exchanged all those faulty devices, claiming it's a "hardware" issue...while in fact, it's their stupid back covers...i'll explain as we speak.
First, to know what screen/display problem i'm talking about, please refer to this Video.
Few days ago, i got my hands on a "Dead" One X...but i just refused that fact...because it just works! but no screen....screen is always blank....can touch it, go to dealer and make a phone call even. Sometimes the screen turned, sometimes, and it was like in the video, exactly like it.....so what's the problem?!
yesterday, i'll be honest, i got mad at this phone and held it with a tight grip...my finger happened to press just above something...and the screen turned on! worked great in fact! i was astonished! it just worked....but, oops, i turned off screen, then when wanting to turn it back on...blank...
I kept pushing on the back casing of the phone, trying to find the same place that made the screen turn back on...and viola, same place pressed on, screen back on.
Wanna know what's causing all of this?
Here you go:
Click me!
And those connectors Should be in good contact with this on the back cover
Click me too!
But you know, hTC ****ed this one up, just like it does on most devices with connectors on the back cover...*sigh*...like the sensation for example...
So what to do now?
i tried a bunch of things, and almost broke those connectors with a stupid thick aluminum foil on top of them...
also i tried bending them up, but that doesn't help either, as when the cover pushes them down, their shape will change and well...didn't work.
i also tried putting aluminum foil on the metal connectors on the actual cover...didn't help as well!
it seems only pushing on it from outside does the trick!!
i also tried pushing on the connectors together while the back casing is off, didn't work...as it seems there must be a triple connection...board, connectors, and cover...
I think the only solution would be with a new back casing? but...if hTC f****d it up with this one, wouldn't all back casing suck too?? or is this a manufacturing problem that the connectors are just short and won't connect well?!
here are pictures of how the phone turned on magically after pressing over that connector, and another of how the screen gets messed up when the, well, there's not a good connection...Thank you hTC!
Sample 1 Sample 2
Tomorrow i will buy a new back casing and report if that helped me or not.
I only came to this because i have no warranty...if you have warranty, please consider an exchange!
Oh, and finally, i was able to get into bootloader, first time i saw that screen! always has been blank!...pushing on the connector also did the trick.
Finally!
Soooo...comments?
If anyone has an idea on how to make the back casing come in better contact with those connectors, please let me know.
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Hmm, why did you put this into Q&A?
what? in a bad mood and wanna bash me?
where should i put it then? as people with such problem would come ask here, am i right?
EDIT: lol, it's all good now ^^
arabology said:
what? in a bad mood and wanna bash me?
where should i put it then? as people with such problem would come ask here, am i right?
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Well nah, would post it into General , as this was more like a guide. I wasn't bashing.. and not in a bad mood... If anything I bumped your thread up...
Also wanted to say that those contacts and that case seems to be f..cked up in general. As next to those you have the WIFI ones which in another thread, thats in General is shown how to fix...
My first comment was a compliment and you could clearly see I was smiling as I am on my avatar smiling. No reason to get defensive...
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Well nah, would post it into General , as this was more like a guide. I wasn't bashing.. and not in a bad mood... If anything I bumped your thread up...
Also wanted to say that those contacts and that case seems to be f..cked up in general. As next to those you have the WIFI ones which in another thread, thats in General is shown how to fix...
My first comment was a compliment and you could clearly see I was smiling as I am on my avatar smiling. No reason to get defensive...
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oh well...also WIFI connectors are bad?...no wonder SIII is flying and hTC is dying...
anyway, maybe a moderator can take this thread to the general forum, thanks for pointing those things out!
and sorry i seemed mean, but many, really, many users have nothing better to do but nag...trolls
thanks ^^
Soldering would fix this!
putting two round solders on the gold plates of the back cover. i will try that tomorrow. but i fear they would squash the connectors on the board? as that's what happened when i used two tiny balls of aluminum foil....one connector got squashed by it and i had to push it back up and play with it to make it look normal again.....hmmmm
arabology said:
Soldering would fix this!
putting two round solders on the gold plates of the back cover. i will try that tomorrow. but i fear they would squash the connectors on the board? as that's what happened when i used two tiny balls of aluminum foil....one connector got squashed by it and i had to push it back up and play with it to make it look notmal again.....hhhhh
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Moved to general forum hope youll fix it bro...
So it is a hardware fault,would never guess that...in the general forum you have a topic with the name "wifi fault" give a look on that
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muamers said:
Moved to general forum hope youll fix it bro...
So it is a hardware fault,would never guess that...in the general forum you have a topic with the name "wifi fault" give a look on that
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*nods* already took a look at that
will try the soldering...or connecting a wire between both connectors...one of those should work
arabology said:
*nods* already took a look at that
will try the soldering...or connecting a wire between both connectors...one of those should work
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Like you guys would say: "inshallah" :d
Just dont rush with the opening and be carefull
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waw another fellow citizen
so before we go ahead and go
doooom gloooom htcccc suxxxxxxx
lets first affirm tons of people have no problems with their wifi and their screens
so yes those connectors issues whether screen or wifi are another forum of a manufacturing defect, things might not be perfectly aligned and hence the issue
the flickering issue your thread title suggests finding the source of, isnt related to this, 90% of the corruption we saw out of box on the HOX turned out to be software including the back-light flicker which HTC fixed by readjusting the LCD voltage
moving on to your question a new back cover might very well fix it unless the misalignment is on the board
but im wondering why is this pin related to the screen to begin with? the Sensation didn't have such a pin you could remove the back cover and the screen kept operating, also the disassemble photos that were posted for the HOX showed the board and screen running perfectly without the back cover
as for the stupid copper foil, make sure you don't loose it unless you are planning to make a bomb its added to distribute Tegra3 heat
arabology said:
*nods* already took a look at that
will try the soldering...or connecting a wire between both connectors...one of those should work
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Before you do that, please check the WIFI thread. There was already one member that described that soldering or adding a wire might be possibly harmful in the long run.
Changing the electricity stuff, how its called, the resistance or something (for the antenna though)
I'm having the same damn issue (check the picture) and thanks to Arabology for the well explanation on the problem. what I did was to send my phone to the service center and they told me it will take 3 working days (today was just the 1st day) for the technician to diagnose the fault and decide whether to replace the device or to repair it.
given that its a well known defect - should I just demand an exchange for a new device just incase if they revert that they repaired my phone? because I am sure the chances for the problem to reoccur is high.
Also just so you know I purchased this phone only about 3 months ago in HTC roadshow launch of OneX in Malaysia. HTC needs to come out with really quality products otherwise they will loose all their customers to samsung & apple (I believe they already lost major % of their loyal customers to their rivals)
oh well hope to get a good news soon. will keep u guys posted.
Update:
well, My One X is just cursed, few days ago it feel off my hand and the screen got cracked. now i'm waiting for my local repair station to get hold of a One X digitizer.
ALSO, HUGE NEWS, seems i was wrong. it's not the connectors. it's the whole part where there is a copper kinda sheath over it...i guess that's where are the cores are plus the Nvidia Tegra chip??! turned out, when i push there, that the screen lights up. at first i thought it's the connector, coz that's the most reasonable right?
what could be wrong under that? well, that place can be taken off, there's a metal housing that can be lifted off....idk, nothing seems wrong there...but seriously, just a slight push lights up the screen! so now i'm using the oldest trick in the book, i put a wrapped paper at the back of the casing, just where it will push over the place i talked about, and now screen is always on....just this small push does the job!! no more flickering!
i repeat, it's not the connector nor the back casing.......only God and hTC knows what's going on...
i did further investigations and tried to relate the "push" to any connections that could be on the board from the other side, but after disassembling the phone, there does't seem to be anything on the other side of the board that needs that certain force to help the screen to light up....idk, this just boggles the mind.
...anyone has any clue?!?
BTW, phone is working great even with the cracked screen, playing Dark Meadow just fine
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I'm having the same damn issue (check the picture) and thanks to Arabology for the well explanation on the problem. what I did was to send my phone to the service center and they told me it will take 3 working days (today was just the 1st day) for the technician to diagnose the fault and decide whether to replace the device or to repair it.
given that its a well known defect - should I just demand an exchange for a new device just incase if they revert that they repaired my phone? because I am sure the chances for the problem to reoccur is high.
Also just so you know I purchased this phone only about 3 months ago in HTC roadshow launch of OneX in Malaysia. HTC needs to come out with really quality products otherwise they will loose all their customers to samsung & apple (I believe they already lost major % of their loyal customers to their rivals)
oh well hope to get a good news soon. will keep u guys posted.
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i say you should demand an exchange. hopefully the device they'll give will be of a different tier of products that doesn't have that silly, unknown problem.
also, i'm pretty well sure that they won't repair your device. as i read many users regarding this issue, all of them got an exchange......seems pretty messed up. and i doubt my paper trick will hold long before this issue comes back
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Before you do that, please check the WIFI thread. There was already one member that described that soldering or adding a wire might be possibly harmful in the long run.
Changing the electricity stuff, how its called, the resistance or something (for the antenna though)
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now that i have a paper inside my back casing, i can see that my WIFI connection is not at it's best, because of the extra space it took. so i'll most probably solder all the connectors
arabology said:
Update:
what could be wrong under that? well, that place can be taken off, there's a metal housing that can be lifted off....idk, nothing seems wrong there...but seriously, just a slight push lights up the screen! so now i'm using the oldest trick in the book, i put a wrapped paper at the back of the casing, just where it will push over the place i talked about, and now screen is always on....just this small push does the job!! no more flickering!
i repeat, it's not the connector nor the back casing.......only God and hTC knows what's going on...
i did further investigations and tried to relate the "push" to any connections that could be on the board from the other side, but after disassembling the phone, there does't seem to be anything on the other side of the board that needs that certain force to help the screen to light up....idk, this just boggles the mind.
...anyone has any clue?!?
BTW, phone is working great even with the cracked screen, playing Dark Meadow just fine
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there was some guy, who posted a youtube video of when he pushed a certain area of his screen (the front part), it would switch off!
It only did it when pushed in that area, it was literally like a second power button.
Sorry I don't know exactly what it was, just the fact that somebody else had a similar problem!
HTC repaired my phone as the screen was faulty, it had a yellow tint, when i sent it for repair it did have screen flickering, ever since its come back, with a new screen, i rooted it and also put in the NEW ARHD rom, 2.05.2 base or something, it has stopped flickering :fingers-crossed:
walker07 said:
I'm having the same damn issue (check the picture) and thanks to Arabology for the well explanation on the problem. what I did was to send my phone to the service center and they told me it will take 3 working days (today was just the 1st day) for the technician to diagnose the fault and decide whether to replace the device or to repair it.
given that its a well known defect - should I just demand an exchange for a new device just incase if they revert that they repaired my phone? because I am sure the chances for the problem to reoccur is high.
Also just so you know I purchased this phone only about 3 months ago in HTC roadshow launch of OneX in Malaysia. HTC needs to come out with really quality products otherwise they will loose all their customers to samsung & apple (I believe they already lost major % of their loyal customers to their rivals)
oh well hope to get a good news soon. will keep u guys posted.
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Finally found someone with the exact same problem. I haven't been able to use my hox properly for weeks. Think I need to be sending back to HTC
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Finally I've got my OneX replaced with a new unit.:laugh: Hoping this will not have any sort of hardware faulty anymore.
interestingly. while waiting for my turn in the service center, I was just talking to a guy sitting and waiting beside me who came to report a problem with his OneX
and apparently its his 4th time visit to the service center. And all his previous 3 visits ended up with his OneX getting replaced each time....and each time with a different hardware issue (screen flickering / dead pixels / color faulty). Oh man....I thought the OneX was the best quality product from HTC.
and now I'm having a slight regret that I shud have just waited for another 2 more months and bought the SIII instead. God knows what other problems my OneX is going to come up with.
Hi
arabology said:
Update:
well, My One X is just cursed, few days ago it feel off my hand and the screen got cracked. now i'm waiting for my local repair station to get hold of a One X digitizer.
ALSO, HUGE NEWS, seems i was wrong. it's not the connectors. it's the whole part where there is a copper kinda sheath over it...i guess that's where are the cores are plus the Nvidia Tegra chip??! turned out, when i push there, that the screen lights up. at first i thought it's the connector, coz that's the most reasonable right?
what could be wrong under that? well, that place can be taken off, there's a metal housing that can be lifted off....idk, nothing seems wrong there...but seriously, just a slight push lights up the screen! so now i'm using the oldest trick in the book, i put a wrapped paper at the back of the casing, just where it will push over the place i talked about, and now screen is always on....just this small push does the job!! no more flickering!
i repeat, it's not the connector nor the back casing.......only God and hTC knows what's going on...
i did further investigations and tried to relate the "push" to any connections that could be on the board from the other side, but after disassembling the phone, there does't seem to be anything on the other side of the board that needs that certain force to help the screen to light up....idk, this just boggles the mind.
...anyone has any clue?!?
BTW, phone is working great even with the cracked screen, playing Dark Meadow just fine
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Probably what's referred to as a dry joint or some other connection not connecting very well, not uncommon in electronics.
You need to get it repaired or replaced, simple as that. If it is a dry joint under one of the chips that use a ball grid array of solder points, you will never be able to sort that out yourself and it would be scrapped more than likely rather than a repair attempted for such a fault. To repair, it would need to go into a special over to heat it enough to melt the solder under the chip. Exerting pressure will just eventually make things worse as you can end up fracturing more of the soldered connections as there is little give to resist flexing.
Regards
Phil
Hello people,
I was hoping somebody could help me, my phone got wet(stupid i know) and shut down because of the water.
I pulled the battery and put my phone in rice for a day, at first it wouldnt boot and kept refreshing the google logo, after awhile it started to boot normally (and work normally) except booting which took 2 or 3 google refreshes before it started bootanimation, and with the charger plugged in it took more(like 5).
Im not sure what is happening with booting, may be related to my next problem, the camera stopped working.
when i start up camera all i get is a black screen and my navbar buttons, no shutter button, no error or w/e just nothing. sometimes not even all the navbars show up.
Other then that the phone is working normal so i dont know if it is a soft- or hardware problem.
Does anybody know what is going on?
Id like to pull a logcat but it isnt working for me, says adb isnt a internal or external command after installing all the sdk tools etc.
It's likely that your camera module broke.
Lesicnik1 said:
It's likely that your camera module broke.
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Thx for input, if so, can i replace it?
Afwasmassi said:
my phone got wet(stupid i know) and shut down because of the water.
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Other then that the phone is working normal so i dont know if it is a soft- or hardware problem.
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I'd say chances are it's a hardware problem.
Afwasmassi said:
Thx for input, if so, can i replace it?
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Well you can replace it yourself, but assuming that you've never done disassembling and stuff, I don't recommend you doing it...
Lesicnik1 said:
It's likely that your camera module broke.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Well you can replace it yourself, but assuming that you've never done disassembling and stuff, I don't recommend you doing it...
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I get your point, i was thinking more along the lines of getting it repaced..
maybe warranty? I looked for a water damage sticker and i couldnt find a single one, can sb tell me where it is supposed to be?
Afwasmassi said:
I get your point, i was thinking more along the lines of getting it repaced..
maybe warranty? I looked for a water damage sticker and i couldnt find a single one, can sb tell me where it is supposed to be?
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You gotta pay Samsung to do it. Warranty doesn't cover that. If you're lucky, you can probably fix it from third party repair shop for a cheaper price
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
kyokeun1234 said:
You gotta pay Samsung to do it. Warranty doesn't cover that. If you're lucky, you can probably fix it from third party repair shop for a cheaper price
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
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How do you mean, it cant pass as a fault from samsung itself? Like 'the camera stopped working'
Afwasmassi said:
How do you mean, it cant pass as a fault from samsung itself? Like 'the camera stopped working'
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You mean, stone cold lying to cover up your own mistake and let somebody else pay for it?
Afwasmassi said:
How do you mean, it cant pass as a fault from samsung itself? Like 'the camera stopped working'
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Well it's your fault, right? Plus, they'll know that something caused camera to stop working once they crack or open
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
Afwasmassi said:
Hello people,
I was hoping somebody could help me, my phone got wet(stupid i know) and shut down because of the water.
I pulled the battery and put my phone in rice for a day, at first it wouldnt boot and kept refreshing the google logo, after awhile it started to boot normally (and work normally) except booting which took 2 or 3 google refreshes before it started bootanimation, and with the charger plugged in it took more(like 5).
Im not sure what is happening with booting, may be related to my next problem, the camera stopped working.
when i start up camera all i get is a black screen and my navbar buttons, no shutter button, no error or w/e just nothing. sometimes not even all the navbars show up.
Other then that the phone is working normal so i dont know if it is a soft- or hardware problem.
Does anybody know what is going on?
Id like to pull a logcat but it isnt working for me, says adb isnt a internal or external command after installing all the sdk tools etc.
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Man me too, i was out running with my phone yesterday (use my phone for GPS and music while running), 2 miles into my run and it started POURING! my phone got pretty wet pretty fast. I pulled the battery, wrapped it up in my shirt and ran that fastest 2 miles of my life back to my truck to get my nexus somewhere dry... its been sitting in rice since yesterday afternoon.... im scared to power back up
kyokeun1234 said:
Well it's your fault, right? Plus, they'll know that something caused camera to stop working once they crack or open
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
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thx for your input, i will take it to a local phone shop to see if they can get it fixed.
Kinda regret not getting insurance for it though.
Last question, would the broken camera module be the cause of the bootloopish behaviour?
codya321 said:
Man me too, i was out running with my phone yesterday (use my phone for GPS and music while running), 2 miles into my run and it started POURING! my phone got pretty wet pretty fast. I pulled the battery, wrapped it up in my shirt and ran that fastest 2 miles of my life back to my truck to get my nexus somewhere dry... its been sitting in rice since yesterday afternoon.... im scared to power back up
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Know that feel bro. i was scared ****less. but still the camera broke.
Any update on this?
I have EXACTLY the same situation with a little more info. Seems weird that the same components die in the same manner with water damage. Some traces too close together?
My phone wasn't actually soaked, just very humid. Was in my jacket pocket while running in a downpour. Jacket is completely waterproof, unfortunately it wicks a lot of water off me and the goddamn pocket is made of the same breathable wicking material. Time I realised what had happened, there was a lot of moisture in the pocket. Phone still working but .....
Flash modules no longer works. This is why the camera app fails to start. There's no error in logcat aside from the application taking too long to respond. Will dig a bit deeper here shortly, but I just found it odd that the phone is so susceptible to moisture in one specific piece of hardware. I know this isn't a ... catastrophic design flaw but it IS something any good electronics manufacturer should note and take into consideration. If a bit of moisture causes this failure reproducibly, it should be considered a design flaw, and addressed as such.
Back to the OP though. Did your phone ever miraculously start working?
Could you test if your flash module works (install a flashlight app and turn on...)?
codya321 said:
Man me too, i was out running with my phone yesterday (use my phone for GPS and music while running), 2 miles into my run and it started POURING! my phone got pretty wet pretty fast. I pulled the battery, wrapped it up in my shirt and ran that fastest 2 miles of my life back to my truck to get my nexus somewhere dry... its been sitting in rice since yesterday afternoon.... im scared to power back up
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Leave it on the rice a couple more days. And in between try to replace rice with new one. I have read in this forums number of times people who have successfully dried out their phone waited longer, that is several days in rice.
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I had an ogdroid take a swim in a Pool (i was pushed in). I left the phone & battery fully submerged in a bowl of rice for 2 weeks. I changed the rice out every to days. Reinserted battery and powered Up device and it when to bootloader. I sbf the phone....worked perfect as if it never went swimming.
The longer that you can leave it....the better. Oh and replace the water detection stickers. You can buy them just about anywhere on the net.
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