So this morning, still half asleep I dropped my TP2 into the toilet while it was on. I grabbed it out of the toilet, and removed the battery as fast as i could (while a string of expletives came out of my mouth), let it sit under a lightbulb for a few hours.. then put it in a bag of uncooked instant rice, and left it in my warm car for most of the afternoon.
I never have been a very patient person so after about 8 hours of drying off, i put the battery back in and tried it. Phone boots up fine, everything seemed to work.. could see some moisture on the inside of the lcd still. Seemed I got lucky.. till i tried the keyboard. Some keys don't do anything, some make random crazy strings of letters.. oy. Took the battery out again, and it's back under the light bulb (sick of cleaning rice dust out of my phone).
Anyway, i'm wondering if anybody's had a keyboard on a phone screw up like that and work properly after completely drying out? I've had a few computer keyboards that screwed up like that but worked fine after drying a few days so i really hope the keyboard comes back, especially with USED tp2s still going for over 200 bucks on ebay.. yikes. Touchscreen works fine, was able to send a text no problem using the stylus.. but man i miss the keyboard!
Sorry for the novel.. any input would be appreciated!
if you can, take it fully apart so you can dry the back of the keyboard directly
as you said, i've had PC keyboards that worked after drying, but i always had to take them apart to properly dry the innards
Urgh!
I feel for you! I sit in the bath and surf and read on my TP2 and I am so careful! But accidents can happen!
Was the toilet water, err, fresh? I would suggest always leaving things with the battery out and in a warm place for at least 24hrs, as tempting as it is to power it up.
The keyboard membrane may dry out over a few days, I would suggest you don't use it for a few days.
Let us know how you get on.
aerotec said:
Urgh!
I feel for you! I sit in the bath and surf and read on my TP2 and I am so careful! But accidents can happen!
Was the toilet water, err, fresh? I would suggest always leaving things with the battery out and in a warm place for at least 24hrs, as tempting as it is to power it up.
The keyboard membrane may dry out over a few days, I would suggest you don't use it for a few days.
Let us know how you get on.
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Unfortunately no, had a lil liquid waste in it.. i'm thinking about getting some rubbing alcohol to swish the phone around in.
to defaultdotxbe:
I would but i don't have the proper screwdriver, looks like a tiny little allen key type deal
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Unfortunately no, had a lil liquid waste in it.. i'm thinking about getting some rubbing alcohol to swish the phone around in.
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I would but i don't have the proper screwdriver, looks like a tiny little allen key type deal
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Rubbing alcohol isn't absolutely safe. It's only 70% alcohol, for one thing, and the rest is water. So you're actually putting more water INTO your phone when you use it, even though the alcohol helps it to evaporate faster.
I tried cleaning my old BlackBerry keyboard and trackball with rubbing acohol. The keyboard went nuts for a while. Eventually, after many days, it settled down, but now the trackball has a distinct tendency to bounce -- send two clicks instead of one, which is a drag when you click Delete and it instantly sends the Confirm click as well!
There's probably something better than alcohol, like ether, but I dunno where you'd get it.
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Unfortunately no, had a lil liquid waste in it.. i'm thinking about getting some rubbing alcohol to swish the phone around in.
to defaultdotxbe:
I would but i don't have the proper screwdriver, looks like a tiny little allen key type deal
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its a torx 5, i have this screwdriver: http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hard...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
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Rubbing alcohol isn't absolutely safe. It's only 70% alcohol, for one thing, and the rest is water. So you're actually putting more water INTO your phone when you use it, even though the alcohol helps it to evaporate faster.
I tried cleaning my old BlackBerry keyboard and trackball with rubbing acohol. The keyboard went nuts for a while. Eventually, after many days, it settled down, but now the trackball has a distinct tendency to bounce -- send two clicks instead of one, which is a drag when you click Delete and it instantly sends the Confirm click as well!
There's probably something better than alcohol, like ether, but I dunno where you'd get it.
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most stores carry 91% alcohol too, and and some places will have 99%
although im always hesitant to put more liquid into the electronics, lol
Right.. i havent yet because it just doesnt feel right putting a 650 dollar piece of electronics into liquid. Heh.. Anyway, ran up to the local grocery store and all they carry is 50/50 alcohol/water. Leaning towards just letting the phone dry out now.. it has already been 14 hours since the dip in the toilet, and the water wasn't filthy just had a little pee in it (trust me, i stopped real quick when the phone hit the water, lol)
EDIT: So if it turns out the keyboard is shot, but the rest of the phone is fine.. is there any way of replacing the keyboard? I searched around online but all i could find was replacement lcd/faceplate/front keypads.. no keyboards.
Also.. unimportant but I thought it was kind of interesting, the water sensitive sticker on my battery is completely un-touched; looks good as new. However the one on the inside of the phone which couldnt be more than an inch away from the other sticker is completely washed out.
EDIT: (again lol) so on second thought.. the water in the 50/50 rubbing alcohol should be purified, correct? I'm really starting to worry about corrosion from the minerals in the toilet water and thinking it might be a good idea to wash it out with the rubbing alcohol. I've seen stories of people who left their phone underwater for long periods of time without a battery and once it dried out it was fine, one guy put a test phone under water for 3 days, then dried it out and it was fine. So that begs the question- take a risk on corrosion but let the phone dry out quicker OR get all the minerals/salts out of the phone but risk more water damage and deal with a longer drying time..
Note that Walmart sells 90% rubbing alcohol, and many pharmacies stock 99%.
(I don't have an opinion if washing your phone in this is a good or bad idea; just wanted to let you know where you can find it).
So after reading probably a couple hundred different "i dropped my phone in the toilet, ran it through the wash, or jumped in the pool with it in my pocket" stories and their outcomes...
Decided to put the phone back into a sealed container of uncooked rice (only because I couldn't find any silica gel) and leave it in a warm area overnight minus the battery. It'll have spent 30 hours drying in a desiccant come noon tomorrow so I'll fire it up and again and see what happens.
To condense everything I've read in the past 4 hours: Water + electricity +electronics = bad, remove the battery immediately (duh). Let it dry, do not turn it on (you'd be surprised how many people turn it on right after towel drying, and leave it on till it fries). Taking the phone apart and cleaning with alcohol and a q-tip seems to help, as does completely soaking the phone in alcohol; however I saw quite a few people who said their LCD quit working after the alcohol bath so I'd use it as a last resort only if even after extensive drying the phone still won't work (might as well give it a shot then, right?) ...just try to keep it away from the lcd.
Anyway, gonna try the TP2 around noon tommorow.. I'll let ya know how it goes.
this is horrible, its like my worst night mare, but i just recently switched to at&t and specifically didnt get the iPhone because i am a very strong windows mobile user lol, but anyway, im selling my tp2 that i had, almost perfect condition, but if i can get it apart, i would sell you the keyboard, i didn get a sale on ebay, but i dont think the guy is gonna pay ((, but ill keep in touch, i hope all goes well
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this is horrible, its like my worst night mare, but i just recently switched to at&t and specifically didnt get the iPhone because i am a very strong windows mobile user lol, but anyway, im selling my tp2 that i had, almost perfect condition, but if i can get it apart, i would sell you the keyboard, i didn get a sale on ebay, but i dont think the guy is gonna pay ((, but ill keep in touch, i hope all goes well
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Cool, I'll have to take you up on that if the keyboard doesn't return to normal. Coming up on 20 hours now it's been drying in rice at not quite 100 degrees.
Just checkin up on ya before I go to school. I'll be checkin the thread all day, im really interested to hear if you get it working again, if so, I think this post thread should stay in the archives as "Opps..."
Well it's been 30 hours.. crossing my fingers and powering it up...
Still some signs of moisture inside the lcd, but definately less than yesterday.. phone still boots up properly. Keyboard still doesnt work.. when i press the buttons i can hear water inside it. Thinking the rice doesn't work as well as silica gel would so today at work i'm gonna see if i cant find a few big packets of silica gel to let the phone sit in. Starting to get pretty impatient.. i need my phone!
Starting to seriously think about getting some 99/1 rubbing alcohol and dipping the keyboard in it for a few minutes too..
tempted to just put the battery back in and bring it to work with me.. can use the touchscreen no problem.. but ARGH dont wanna damage my phone!
Sigh.. guess it's going back in the rice and sitting in my car for another baking session I work till 10pm tonight, and go back at 6am tommorow so if the keyboard's still not working by the time i'm off tommorow i'm gonna run up to home depot, get a torx 5 and take the stupid thing apart to dry/clean it better.
Oh I wouldn't "dip" the phone into alcohol if I were you, that can only make the problem worse.. Best thing you can do is open the phone (if you have the appropriate screwdrivers) and try to make it dry with a hair dryer or something like that!
And yeah you should definately try the Silica gel!
Dude I feel so sorry for you, must be harsh to drop your phone into your own piss x'D
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Oh I wouldn't "dip" the phone into alcohol if I were you, that can only make the problem worse.. Best thing you can do is open the phone (if you have the appropriate screwdrivers) and try to make it dry with a hair dryer or something like that!
And yeah you should definately try the Silica gel!
Dude I feel so sorry for you, must be harsh to drop your phone into your own piss x'D
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Only problems i've seen caused by alcohol is with the lcd.. was thinking about dipping just the keyboard, but yeah.. thinking it might be better to get a torx 5 and take it apart.. water's been in there too long, dont want any corrosion.
meadams314 said:
So this morning, still half asleep I dropped my TP2 into the toilet while it was on. I grabbed it out of the toilet, and removed the battery as fast as i could (while a string of expletives came out of my mouth), let it sit under a lightbulb for a few hours.. then put it in a bag of uncooked instant rice, and left it in my warm car for most of the afternoon.
I never have been a very patient person so after about 8 hours of drying off, i put the battery back in and tried it. Phone boots up fine, everything seemed to work.. could see some moisture on the inside of the lcd still. Seemed I got lucky.. till i tried the keyboard. Some keys don't do anything, some make random crazy strings of letters.. oy. Took the battery out again, and it's back under the light bulb (sick of cleaning rice dust out of my phone).
Anyway, i'm wondering if anybody's had a keyboard on a phone screw up like that and work properly after completely drying out? I've had a few computer keyboards that screwed up like that but worked fine after drying a few days so i really hope the keyboard comes back, especially with USED tp2s still going for over 200 bucks on ebay.. yikes. Touchscreen works fine, was able to send a text no problem using the stylus.. but man i miss the keyboard!
Sorry for the novel.. any input would be appreciated!
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Reminds me of the time my old Ericsson T28 went through an entire wash cycle. The battery was shot, but the phone worked fine once I got a new battery. That was a full 10 years ago, and phones were a bit tougher back then (though still not warranted to be cleaned that way)!
Good luck on the phone. I gather you don't have insurance on the TP2 through your carrier?
Also, if you are willing to extend your contract, you can get a new TP2 for under $200 with a two year extension.
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why are you updating this tread every few minutes like it's a blog...???
never take you phone into a bathroom people...IT HAS 3 MAJOR WATER SOURCES...!!!
there are 3 places one should never take a phone: bathrooms, beaches, battlestar galactica...
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Hehe there are actually 4 places, because you forgot Chuck Norris! Never take your phone to Chuck Norris, he will roundhouse kick it out of your hands, right back into the toilet xD..
And some other tips that might help the guy with the broken phone:
- Give time for the phone to dry. Don't experiment with putting the battery back on to see if it works as this would risk damaging the phone with a short circuit.
- Be patient and wait. Yes - be patient! Let nature have its way; just leave it in a warm place and let the water evaporate.
- Place it on top of the vent of a cable box, monitor or TV for at least 24 hours (up to 3 days). The low heat emitted is enough to gently dry out the phone.
- Do not under any circumstances heat the battery - it could leak or explode. Lithium-ion batteries are sensitive. If you use an oven or hairdryer, remove the battery first.
- If you use alcohol for the drying process, only do so to the outside, and do not apply heat in any way shape or form, not even the gentlest of heat. Do not connect the battery until the alcohol smell goes away
- And, if it's not stating the obvious, do not put the phone into the microwave. You will fry the components and probably ruin the microwave!
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- And, if it's not stating the obvious, do not put the phone into the microwave. You will fry the components and probably ruin the microwave!
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I was more worried about a toaster oven...
I just got a Motorola Defy and I think the USB cover is a bit loose. Some say you need to apply a bit of force to remove and put it back on but I only have to touch it with my nail and it pops right off. This phone will definitely not work in humid areas with such a loose cover. And this cover has to be opened and closed on a daily basis, I don't trust it right now.
Why is it that no one has realized how insanely useful inductive charging would be on a rugged phone?! No stupid flaps/covers that can get worn out.
Mine is nearly 3 months old, and the usb cover has been opened/closed for over a hundred times. The cover is not as tight as before but defy is still very water resistant.
Actually I just wash it with tap water. I no longer throw it to water/beer for fun now, but I am very confident that it can survive an accidental drop to water (immediate pick up) or a little rain/water flash with the covers closed, even a bit loosely.
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Why is it that no one has realized how insanely useful inductive charging would be on a rugged phone?! No stupid flaps/covers that can get worn out.
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The USB port does more than just charging though. Even with inductive charging, you'd still need the USB port. True, you might not open it as much, but it would still have to be there.
Is the battery door cover on anyone's G2 loose? I mean, it used to be a nice tight fit when I first got it, but now after owning it since its release date is seems to be just loose enough to annoy the hell out of me. It doesn't rattle but it slides back & forth just a little bit, maybe a couple millimeters worth. Just curious if this happens to anyone else's G2, and if so what did you do to make it stop doing that.
Thanks.
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Is the battery door cover on anyone's G2 loose? I mean, it used to be a nice tight fit when I first got it, but now after owning it since its release date is seems to be just loose enough to annoy the hell out of me. It doesn't rattle but it slides back & forth just a little bit, maybe a couple millimeters worth. Just curious if this happens to anyone else's G2, and if so what did you do to make it stop doing that.
Thanks.
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does it fall out? if it dosent, you can try to put something inbetween the gap so the door has no space to move
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does it fall out? if it dosent, you can try to put something inbetween the gap so the door has no space to move
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No, it doesn't fall off the phone at all, it's in there pretty good. It slides up & down parallel to the phone itself, so when I'm holding it it just doesn't feel secure (IMO).
Had that problem long ago, it was caused by the phone lock not the cover. I had a replacement and it was locking perfectly again
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Check the tabs on the left side. I noticed that mine got lose also it was from the tabs bending out. Just bend them back in and you should be fine.
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Check the tabs on the left side. I noticed that mine got lose also it was from the tabs bending out. Just bend them back in and you should be fine.
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Which left side are you referring to, the metal clips or the black clips? And which we are you bending them to fix it, toward the center or away from the center? Thanks.
These tabs on the door its self. Just bend slightly and slowly, they will break so be careful.
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These tabs on the door its self. Just bend slightly and slowly, they will break so be careful.
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Which way are you bending them though?
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Which way are you bending them though?
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In, towards the door.
Remember just slightly. Alittle then try, and so on.
after the first charge my rubber cover for the battery looks bent. i guess i pried it out and to the left instead of backwards towards the strap and that's how this happened. i have big fingers and it wasn't easy for me to pry it open at all. i tried to bend it back the other direction and it almost sits flush now. it doesn't appear the seal around the actual micro-usb port is damaged, just the outer rim standing up you see. wondering if this is normal, and if it will have any negative effects when it comes to waterproofing.
Yes...exactly the same.
Doesn't look right
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after the first charge my rubber cover for the battery looks bent. i guess i pried it out and to the left instead of backwards towards the strap and that's how this happened. i have big fingers and it wasn't easy for me to pry it open at all. i tried to bend it back the other direction and it almost sits flush now. it doesn't appear the seal around the actual micro-usb port is damaged, just the outer rim standing up you see. wondering if this is normal, and if it will have any negative effects when it comes to waterproofing.
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It looks to me like your usb port cover is damaged. I can't believe that pulling it out on the left side instead of the back would bend it permanently like that. I would guess it's defective. If the watch is new and still under warranty, I would probably try to exchange it for another.
I've had my SW3 for about 7 months and have taken the usb rubber cover off many times to charge the watch. So far, it has held up well and still looks new. Click on the below imgur link to see a couple of pics of my SW3 compared to yours.
http://imgur.com/a/Es97z
anyone else? i googled pics of this and all the pictures showed it to be bent the same as mine and onatepp
maybe even helpful if onatepp or others have tried this in the water with no damage...
No need to worry in my opinion. Mine looks the same and I bought mine 7 months ago and several times per week I am taking a shower with it after workout.... I do not think you need a perfect seal to have a waterproof watch, the usb port would not let the moisture into the main body. The rubber cover mainly serves to prevent electrical issues when charging, and maybe corrosion.
You can try with yours
Ok, getting serious, I do not think there is an issue with water. The USB port is sealed.
Will not leak water on the inside. The rubber is meant not to let dust/rubbish inside.
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anyone else? i googled pics of this and all the pictures showed it to be bent the same as mine and onatepp
maybe even helpful if onatepp or others have tried this in the water with no damage...
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Hi!
I have the phone for about a month, it works perfectly and I love it. But in the first few weeks, whenever I unfolded the phone it snapped right to a 180 angle, but in the last few days it seems like there's sometimes a missing few degrees before it's completely flat.
If I unfold it a bit more with a little bit of force (but not much at all) it unfolds completely flat again. Is that normal? Should I show it to Samsung?
Dust.
You should give it a bath
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Nat.smith26 said:
Dust.
You should give it a bath
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Been doing that to mine since day one. I work in construction so a bath is required to keep it clean.
AgentItay said:
Hi!
I have the phone for about a month, it works perfectly and I love it. But in the first few weeks, whenever I unfolded the phone it snapped right to a 180 angle, but in the last few days it seems like there's sometimes a missing few degrees before it's completely flat.
If I unfold it a bit more with a little bit of force (but not much at all) it unfolds completely flat again. Is that normal? Should I show it to Samsung?
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It could possibly be the bristles inside the hinge that keeps dust from getting inside the device. If those bristles come loose (it's a strip that's apparently glued on across the entire length of the phone inside the hinge) they could possibly hinder the phone from opening all the way flat. That's a wild guess but I read somewhere about the bristles coming loose and creating problems. Anyway, you probably should make Samsung or your carrier (if you bought the device through a carrier) aware of it. The hinge is under warranty so if it fails, Samsung should fix or replace it for free or your carrier can issue you a warranty replacement.
u0xpsec said:
Been doing that to mine since day one. I work in construction so a bath is required to keep it clean.
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At first I thought this was a joke, but it actually makes a lot of sense. Just to confirm - You really do this? Legit? haha. I also work in a veryyy dusty environment.. Might have to start doing the same!
Tim-2.0 said:
At first I thought this was a joke, but it actually makes a lot of sense. Just to confirm - You really do this? Legit? haha. I also work in a veryyy dusty environment.. Might have to start doing the same!
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I wasn't joking either.
I really wash my phone on a daily basis, with soap.
Nat.smith26 said:
I wasn't joking either.
I really wash my phone on a daily basis, with soap.
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Isn't it amazing how far technology has come
Mine has always needed an extra push to open fully from new.
Tim-2.0 said:
Isn't it amazing how far technology has come
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Now I can take a bath with my phone ! and watch a movie !
Mine is the same not flat
New hinge contruction (without gears like F2 or F3) and old problems...
AgentItay said:
Hi!
I have the phone for about a month, it works perfectly and I love it. But in the first few weeks, whenever I unfolded the phone it snapped right to a 180 angle, but in the last few days it seems like there's sometimes a missing few degrees before it's completely flat.
If I unfold it a bit more with a little bit of force (but not much at all) it unfolds completely flat again. Is that normal? Should I show it to Samsung?
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Mine does exactly the same thing. Sometimes it snaps right open 180 and sometimes it does not. You should not worry about it!
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Mine has always needed an extra push to open fully from new.
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Me too, out of the box I needed to push a little to get it perfectly flat. It has improved slightly after a few weeks but I still need to do it. My Z Fold 3 snapped open flat by itself. It annoys me quite a bit.
Latoc said:
Me too, out of the box I needed to push a little to get it perfectly flat. It has improved slightly after a few weeks but I still need to do it. My Z Fold 3 snapped open flat by itself. It annoys me quite a bit.
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I never had the previous Folds to compare but the geared hinge sounds better quality to me. However, I think that as long as our phones snap shut properly and need a bit of force to open then all is well.
Basically once I pull mine open for the rest of the way I'm doing all the work to get it to open fully. I don't feel any kind of 'spring action' assisting me.
This is normal. My Fold 4 has done this since new. It opens like normal to like 175 degrees then the remaining 5 is a bit loose/soft. If I push further to 180 and let go it will kinda push itself back to 175. Not a big deal to me. I feel like the fewer degrees the glass bends the less likely the crease will crack
I had this problem with my Fold 1 and Fold 2. A couple of months after purchase I noticed the phone wouldn't open all the way. Its dust! Push a sticky tape into the hinge and run it along the edge on both sides. It is a tedious process but it should help.
What clothes are you Wear with a lot of dust?
Ok but seriously I have fold 2 above 1,5 years, carry in pocket of trousers and I don't have aby problems with full fold
I had a Fold 2 and Fold 3(x2). Also I had a Fold 4 in burgundy. All of them was completely 180 flat. Now I have a Black 1 Tb fold 4 and have the same "Non flat" issue. For complete flat opening I must push the sides. But it is so since day 1 out of the box. I think it depends on how the screen protector is glued and stretched.