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Would anyone be interested in beta testing the Desire Froyo Android 2.2 ROM?
If enough of us offer to do this, there is a chance we can speed up the release of 2.2 to the Desire, and get early access to the ROM and most importantly app2sd.
Interested? Leave your name here after you have emailed HTC to let them know.
This is silly, what are you thinking? That's not how big companies like HTC work.
More constructive than whining, what ideas have you come up with? If you don't think it will work, please feel free to ignore the thread and you won't be bothered with it.
BTW I have done with with a few companies now and it's worked well.
Trust me this will accomplish nothing more then receiving a generic mail from HTC that they are doing everything they can to provide users with amazing updates. Don't mean to rain on your parade but thats just what I (and I assume a lot other rational people) believe.
About ideas; how about waiting?
Thanks for your helpful input. No harm in trying is there? It's my time I'm wasting, and yours if you continue reading this thread. Bye
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Please post topics like this in the general section.
Can a Mod move this then? I honestly thought it was related to Desire development?
This will achieve absolutely nothing. And here's why -
If HTC let you "beta test" any of their software and something goes wrong (Phone bricked, permanently?), who's liable? sure, we could all sign a disclaimer waiving HTC of any wrongdoing, but people will still complain and HTC will still get a lot of flak from it. So why bother when you can just wait?
If you WANT to "beta test" the rom, just wait a week or two - N1's are getting updated, people will dump the rom (probably have already) and it wont take much to port it to the Desire (minus sense, of course). There you go, there's your beta test.
Wow. You honestly think that HTC will give a fl*ng f*ck? Obviously, you have never worked with/for a corporate business.
You mean like the ones I've beta tested with before? Look at least I'm trying some positive suggestions rather than just whining about not having app2sd, at least I'm trying something. And who cares? It's no skin off your back so what's the big deal?
Either way, the reports of random bricking by rooting bother me, so I'm desperately trying to avoid rooting, while desperately craving app2sd (for legitimate paid software, not to break copy protection even if it can do that).
Mods please move this thread to General.....or even better just close it.
These pointless "lets write to HTC" threads always end the same way, HTC wont give a monkeys...Its a nice idea, but a little naive
Next we will have threads offering sexual favours to htc staff for 2.2
SGTDavePwnage said:
Mods please move this thread to General.....or even better just close it.
Next we will have threads offering sexual favours to htc staff for 2.2
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I'm sure there are some good looking girls working there, so I will fulfill my duties to get 2.2 for you guys asap!
abats said:
I'm sure there are some good looking girls working there, so I will fulfill my duties to get 2.2 for you guys asap!
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Actually thinking about it,,,,that sounds like a much better idea than emailing them
Indeed, can't wait tbh. First sexual favors and then Froyo as desert!
You mean like the ones I've beta tested with before?
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I seriously doubt that. If you were a beta tester you wouldn't cry about the risks of rooting like a little girl
stingerpl said:
I seriously doubt that. If you were a beta tester you wouldn't cry about the risks of rooting like a little girl
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Well said
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stingerpl said:
i seriously doubt that. If you were a beta tester you wouldn't cry about the risks of rooting like a little girl
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ownage!!
Another stupid thread in this once so productive and famous XDA-forum.
Hahaha! Owned!! XD
I hate to admit it, but everyone has moved on to the HD2. They have pretty much everything working on the HD2 but there is no developers working on the Rhodium and we have no sound yet.
I really thank all the devs and everyone else involved into making Android run on our Rhodiums, but we gotta face the truth someday. It was fun and I cook WinMo ROMs for the Rhodium, but we gotta realize its dated. The only reason I still have my Rhodium is because it has a keyboard. I'm waiting for a humming bird core HTC phone with QWERTY to make the upgrade. I know some people are gonna flame. Its OK I understand you want to hold on to that Rhodium you have. We ALL do.
PS: Its sad seeing craiglisters selling Android for the HD2. I wish I could kill them all. They don't deserve any money since they did not do any of the work involved nor did they contribute ONE thing. This is why I hate scenes like the smartphone scene... People take credit for what isn't theirs.
yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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LOL
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LOL
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Keep doing what you do Reefer, I am patiently waiting for the next update!
I'm getting sick of threads on this, I'm sure devs do not appreciate them either..
Why you gotta be so negative? They are doing their best they can so why don't you lock yourself in the closet and come out of there once android has been fully ported to our device
Knappad
I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Keep up the good work. Ignore the leeches. All they do is take. They dont realize that their purpose should be to test and return feedback on the testing. Instead they seem to think that this forum is like you said, full of customer service reps. Its pathetic.
Anyhow, there are tons of people who appreciate all of the developers work and look forward to more updates.
Yea Reefer, let em have it. I wish I could help more to unlock the potential of this phone. It really is a pretty slick device that just wasn't given enough polish or muscle. I researched the purchase of it for months beforehand and don't want to just give it up now.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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+1 This is essentially a hobby for these guys....
p.s. gimme-gimme
No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
OP, there is work being done on the sound issue, however it is slow going. I try following the development, but it's WAY over my head.
Reefer for president !!!
agreed its completely dead i envy all the hd2 ppl running android
You are absolutely correct very dead. You should just get HD2s and give me your TP2s.
or pre-order ur 4g Epic.. thats what i did..
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No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
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Wrong. they make a rom and put it on here for everyone. and lets say 50 people download it. and 25 of them have a problem with it. you realy thing that a dev has time to try and fix 25 peoples problems while at the same time make updates to the roms cause your demanding them? thats not how it works. if you install a rom and something goes wrong then you ask the 24 other people if any of them have had the same problem or found a fix. your a tester. if your getting the devs work for free. the least thing you could do is test it and let everyone know how it works.
Dated but not dead.
You may think its dead but for people who still own the TP2, like myself, would like to see this till the end. I still have another year with this phone before I can upgrade and I cant fork out 500+ dollars to buy a new one like the HD2 or Incredible. I'm sure there are others out there in the same situation. So just because you were able to move on with an upgrade doesn't mean its dead.
sound will be working in a matter of time acl is making head way on it over at ppcgeeks.
I know i know
this is a very touchy topic so i wanna take a different approach,,,lets say that devs are working hard on a root for 2.2 stock for all of us that are stuck ....why not let this thread be the new discussion for what is happening with root and why it is not happening yet ..like what devs are running into as far as problems go and what not...i am not a dev but i have been roming since the droid and hero an moment have come out ...why dont we help the devs as much as possible and all work together to achieve this common goal and not fight about it all day ...cause in the end we all just want root and everyone will shut up and start enjoying what their evo is really capable of ...thank you devs for all the hard work and such ..lets get this thing cracked asap...
Ps ...please would a dev who is working on this step up and give a status of what exactly is happening and if they need help...
There was no need to create a new thread for this...though I could understand tour frustration if I was in your shoes...
Sorry sir... you have wait like everyone else whoa stuck on the latest OTA.
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Yes! I would love to have a real time transcript of all the devs' thoughts.
That would be fantastic.
Somehow I doubt that they would be jumping in here to update us, civilians, about their progress
Not to be the bad apple, but speaking realistically. When the Evo had 2.1, the Dev made comments all the time about that process and so on, and what to look for. This is different. No one is commenting at all. In fact, they are probable reading all these threads, looking at everyone's comment, calling each other and laughing. Why would they risk root, to help us?.. I'm just living and accepting the fact to live with the Official 2.2. Bottom line is, if they, the developers, were working on a exploit. What harm would it do to let the public know.. I'm not mad at the Dev. For 1, they're not getting paid an hourly rate to do this for the majority of people who will just download there hack without donating.. 2, they are already rooted. IT would be a different story if all the dev weren't rooted, and wanted total control over their phone. Then this would push them to find a way... And i mean thats just the way the world works. So you can't knock them for not finding a way... It is what it is... Just realisticly speaking
this process is killing me.....i miss hacking my nexus one, this evo 2.2 is a iphone that i cant fix up and customize...this sucks!!
I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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No. And like I stated in my first message, the developers are busy writing ROMs.
you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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My reading comprehension is adequate, thank you. My expectations are reasonable as well.
Rooting is a luxury not something that has to be offered up to the public. Up until recently it wasnt even considered completly legal. So for everyone here including myself for that matter that disregarded the warnings and took the update(also for the people who got their phones with 2.2 stock, thats just the way it goes.) Wait patiently, the devs dont owe you periodic updates on what they are doing with their free time. And enjoy your android phones, and if you wanna customize your phone, there are ways from the market you could do so with widgets and replacement launchers that can make your phone look original without rooting.
Agreed! Well said.
my gf just got this stupid little phone so now im in the process of getting it rooted and getting a rom out.
it will be some time as i dont have much free time.
i dev on the epic mostly but this should be pretty easy. so anyone that knows even a little about what their doing send me a pm so we cant get something going.
alot of ppl are going to be getting this phone sense alltel was giving away that really bad excuse for an android phone the wildfire.
isaac
I can't help, but I will say... finally.
feefeeboomboom said:
my gf just got this stupid little phone...alot of ppl are going to be getting this phone sense alltel was giving away that really bad excuse for an android phone the wildfire.
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I don't think it's that bad. Plus, it works on t-zones when unlocked
I will name my children after you...
They shall be called
Telegraphfeefeeboomboom
Thanks a lot for your time and your effort!
Awesome, feefeeboomboom/isaac. The flipside stinks on 2.1. There is no storage space. I really really want 2.2 or 2.3 to be able to store my apps on the SD card.
I hope it you are making progress and that you stay with your GF and that she lets you play with her phone.
Any Updates?
I'm willing to help
Never deved on an android phone before, but I'm a linux admin, and I love doing custom hacks on these things. If I can be of help, let me know. Trying to see how to get the ball rolling on setting up a CM6 version for this phone right now. I'm pretty sure with the limited hardware that this phone has, CM7 would be a huge overkill -- if it would run at all.
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I will name my children after you...
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Telegraphfeefeeboomboom
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Most awesome post ever
And yea my Gf has this phone any development would be great
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Well a cm7 ROM was just realeased for the Motorola Backflip...you really think it would be too much on the Flipside?
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Well a cm7 ROM was just realeased for the Motorola Backflip...you really think it would be too much on the Flipside?
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Well, you caught me. I actually think it would run fine, but it is much easier to use the same kernel and just mod everything else. You can run 2.2 on 2.1 kernels, but you can't run 2.3 on 2.1 or 2.2. So, with that said, it's much easier for me to just take a current image, strip out the bloat, and give everyone a new version based on 2.2 that works out of the box than finding all the missing kernel modules for 2.3 and building it from there.
In short, I'm lazy, and I want to have a newer release out faster.
haha oh ok no sweat! Sorry wasn't tryin to call you out...just curious. Anything that can be done would be great! Hope you get something going soon!
I was thinking of maybe getting the flipside on te insurance program (from a backflip) but it seems like you guys are worse off than us. i cant seem o find source code on moto's site... do you guys know where it might be?
Any progress on a CM7 port? I just got my GF a flipside since she can't deal with on screen keyboards....and she previously had a backflip with CM7 lol
so I've been visiting recently on this and the cyanogen mod forums and it doesn't look like anyone has hit gold yet, or have I missed something somewhere and all the cool kids are having fun with their flipsides and I'm out in the lurch?
My wife too got this phone because of the keyboard...If no development comes soon...I think I might just try and sell it to whatever sucker wants to buy it and then head on over to Canada (eh?) and purchase a G2...
maybe soon...
Motorola is beta testing froyo right now. We may soon have a valid froyo image for the awesome development teams to work with.
The developers over at alpharevx have achieved S-Off for our device. I volunteered (eagerly) to be a guinea pig. I can confirm that it works!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEva63LEJyQ
Be sure to donate to them. They have worked extremely hard to get s-off on the newest generation HTC devices.
I'm sure that support for the inc2 will be added to their lineup in a few days.
I've been wanting to join their community and offer help with my engineering expertise but I haven't had time :S (stupid job) I just might have to donate to them instead.
This is pretty awesome. I look forward to seeing what Roms come out before I jump the gun. My phone acted weird under temproot so I want to hold off until there are devs working on ROMS and can address issues. I can't wait to see some Sense3.0 things get ported over or full blown 3.0
This is great news!
I'd be more than happy to jump the gun, be a guinea pig, lab rat, etc if they need another test subject.
PMs welcome ;D
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The developers over at alpharevx have achieved S-Off for our device. I volunteered (eagerly) to be a guinea pig. I can confirm that it works!
I'm sure that support for the inc2 will be added to their lineup in a few days.
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That is awsome. I don't really post on here, but I have been eagerly reading and checking every day. Waiting for a root. Im so excited! I love the phone already, it will be even more incredible with the root. How simple is the root process? Did you have any troubles, or instant root? I read some people had to repeat steps a few times to get it.
I don't know if this is relevant to the topic but, how long do you think before we get custom roms? As great as Sense is, I like the 'standard' android look better at times :/
EDIT: Can I volunteer to be a Guinea pig?
+1 I would like to be a guinea pig too
Great, but how.
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It's irrelevant to be a guinea pig as of now considering there is no custom recovery, let alone roms, I've owned multiple Android phones and this is the first one i will attempt to make a rom with(i did themes back in the day for the MyTouch). I will research starting tomorrow on what to do etc (already have fedora set up on my laptop).
That is true, but hopefully they add the S-OFF function for the Inc2 to their lineup soon, so Devs can start a root, roms and etc.
Awesome news after sitting in an hours worth of LA rush hour traffic
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It's irrelevant to be a guinea pig as of now considering there is no custom recovery, let alone roms, I've owned multiple Android phones and this is the first one i will attempt to make a rom with(i did themes back in the day for the MyTouch). I will research starting tomorrow on what to do etc (already have fedora set up on my laptop).
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We have a custom recovery that is being tested, and check the the dev section. Our first flash-able kernel is now available.
Just an off topic question, after rooting, I have heard that there are apps that basically give you tethering without paying the $20 (or how ever much it is) to do it "officially", can someone tell me if that's true or not? Thanks.
is it public for S-OFF software for download??
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We have a custom recovery that is being tested, and check the the dev section. Our first flash-able kernel is now available.
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Will do.
Sent from a singularity somewhere.
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We have a custom recovery that is being tested, and check the the dev section. Our first flash-able kernel is now available.
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**** me sideways batman...
this is amazing!
where can we find this?? this is awesome!
my phone is verizon incredible 2, my phone is s-off, I am in china. hehe,my english is terrible,because I study not long
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where can we find this?? this is awesome!
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It will be released to the public once alpharevx moves out of beta. I was told this will be happening *very* soon.