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Hello to all.
I have had my G2 for a month now.
This is my first android.
I was wondering if maybe someone could please clarify some questions I have about Rooting?
I apologize in advance for any questions I may ask that makes you say"Are you effing kidding me?!?!"
1. Is rooting pretty much clearing off your phone and installing a whole new software??
2. If i ever want to come back to stock tmobile...am I able to? (will I even want to??) lol
3. I know gingerbread is coming...how do those updates work on a rooted phone?
4. What precautions should I take when rooting my g2?
5. What is cyanogenmod?...
Sorry for asking these "obvious" questions, but I am trying to understand everything before I try to root my device.
Thank you to all!

MrTeddyChills said:
Hello to all.
I have had my G2 for a month now.
This is my first android.
I was wondering if maybe someone could please clarify some questions I have about Rooting?
I apologize in advance for any questions I may ask that makes you say"Are you effing kidding me?!?!"
1. Is rooting pretty much clearing off your phone and installing a whole new software??
2. If i ever want to come back to stock tmobile...am I able to? (will I even want to??) lol
3. I know gingerbread is coming...how do those updates work on a rooted phone?
4. What precautions should I take when rooting my g2?
5. What is cyanogenmod?...
Sorry for asking these "obvious" questions, but I am trying to understand everything before I try to root my device.
Thank you to all!
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1. rooting makes it possible to flash new roms (which do require you to wipe your system, but once rooted use titanium backup, free app, to back up ur apps on the sdcard)
2. yes there are a few threads on here that walk you through on how to turn security on and install a stock rom
3.as far as i can tell you still get the t-mobile updates sent, and developers here take the new software and make it available to run on our devices.
4. Make sure your device is charged and follow EACH STEP in ORDER and copy the commands CORRECTLY.
5. "CyanogenMod is a free, community built distribution of Android 2.2 (Froyo) which greatly extends the capabilities of your phone." so in short they develop software.

I'd like to add that you will get updates a LOT faster with a rooted phone vs stock OTAs
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

shadyx513 said:
1. rooting makes it possible to flash new roms (which do require you to wipe your system, but once rooted use titanium backup, free app, to back up ur apps on the sdcard)
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Sorry, that's not right. To the OP - Rooting gives you access to the "root" user on the phone, which allows more powerful customisations and allows certain apps to run (those which require root).
S-OFF (security off) is the thing that allows you to flash custom ROMs. You could root and not touch S-OFF, or you could both root and S-OFF.
Neither of these require you to wipe the phone. But you need to be very careful in understanding what you're doing when you do either of these steps.

[Q] Looking for some detailed explenations

First of all I would like to say this this is not the usual "How do i root?" question. I'm actually not looking for a HOWTO, but more for a detailed explanation about the process. I also wasn't sure if this thread should be posted in the developers or the general forums, so please move it to the general forum I you think it should be posted there.
I have an HTC Desire HD device, and I have seen countless tutorials about rooting, changing ROMs and changing other components which I actually don't know.
The problems with these tutorials:
1. They don't really explain what they are asking you to do. This actually may be convenient for most users, but I'm the kind of person that won't run any commands on his phone without actually realizing what they do.
2. These tutorials don't explain what can I do if something messes up.
I'm a programmer and I'm very familiar with Linux systems, but I am relatively new to Android. So after reading all sorts of tutorials, here are my questions:
About rooting in general
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1. How is obtaining root access in Android systems different from obtaining one in Unix systems?
2. Once I obtain root access, does that mean that all my applications runs as the root user? If so, isn't that a security risk?
3. Android have a different permissions system for applications than the classic Unix permissions system, since each applications must specify what does it want to do to the phone (Make phone calls, read the phone book, etc...), what happens to this permissions system once I obtain root access? Can any application use this root access to compromise my phone?
4. Is rooting my phone considered "hacking", or is it something legitimate like obtaining root access in a regular Unix system? Do all these rooting tools actually use exploits in the Android system to obtain root access?
Some questions about the downgrading process
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I read that in order to obtain root access on new HTC desire HD devices, I first my downgrade the phone's firmware. The questions below are based on the tutorial in addictivetips (I can't post a link since this is my first message)
1. Do I still have to do that, or maybe there's a new rooting method that doesn't require downgrading?
2. Once I downgrade and obtain root access, can I upgrade my ROM back to the new official ROM with root access, or does that mean that now I can only install custom ROMs?
3. Does downgrading the phone means I expose it to old security vulnerabilities?
4. My phone is branded. The tutorial suggest to prepare a "gold-card" by overwriting some bytes on the SD card, but none of them explained what does it mean. I would like to technically realize what does a gold card mean, and what does overwriting these specific bytes in the SD card mean.
5. What are the meaning of the commands that I should type before rebooting my phone in recovery mode?
Some HTC specifc questions
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The rooting tutorial says that after rooting I should obtain S-OFF, again, without really explaining what does it mean. As far as I realize, this is an HTC specific security mechanism.
1. What is it there for? Is it actually there to make my phone safer or is it there just to prevent me from changing my ROM?
2. I realized that there is S-OFF and Eng S-OFF, and the latter means gaining "Complete control" on my phone. What can I do with this "Complete control" that I can't do with normal S-OFF?
Using different ROMs
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1. I saw that there are some custom ROMs with HTC Sense. How is that possible? Isn't HTC Sense a proprietary HTC piece of software?
2. When I decide to use a specific ROM, how do can I make sure I have the latest Android version? Do I get automatic updates like when using the stock ROM, or is it my responsibility to always check if there's a new version?
If something messes up
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1. How can I go back to the stock ROM if the downgrading/rooting process messes up?
2. What can I do if a custom ROM installation messes up? Can I go back to the downgraded ROM?
Thank you

Hey!
Here's a link that goes into detail about some of the things you asked about.
[REF] Ivo's Introductory Guide to this forum (READ ME FIRST)
Also, I think you would have been better off asking this in the Q&A section!

harrehk said:
Hey!
Here's a link that goes into detail about some of the things you asked about.
[REF] Ivo's Introductory Guide to this forum (READ ME FIRST)
Also, I think you would have been better off asking this in the Q&A section!
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Thank you, this answered some of my questions

http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

No problem!
Sorry I wasn't a bigger help.
You could try checking the Android Development and Hacking for a few more non-HTC related answers!

[Q] initial steps after receiving att gs3

Hi,
I wonder what are the initial suggested steps, and/or required order that they happen, after receiving my new gs3 from att/bb. In particular, any step/OTA that should be AVOIDED for 'full' functionality / rootability / unlockability? Anything done that could void warranty?
0) disable some crapware from ATT/Samsung
1) put in that magic code to sim unlock (risk free anyways?)
2) OTA to JB? (risk losing free tethering?)
3) I'd like to minimize time on this initially, but shall I root/unlock anyway in case future ota kills this capability? (and how about warranty?)
I'll read through the forum, but you guys has been amazing to provide soooo many tips on this device, and I feel overwhelmed
Thanks.

mailxd said:
Hi,
I wonder what are the initial suggested steps, and/or required order that they happen, after receiving my new gs3 from att/bb. In particular, any step/OTA that should be AVOIDED for 'full' functionality / rootability / unlockability? Anything done that could void warranty?
0) disable some crapware from ATT/Samsung
1) put in that magic code to sim unlock (risk free anyways?)
2) OTA to JB? (risk losing free tethering?)
3) I'd like to minimize time on this initially, but shall I root/unlock anyway in case future ota kills this capability? (and how about warranty?)
I'll read through the forum, but you guys has been amazing to provide soooo many tips on this device, and I feel overwhelmed
Thanks.
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Yeah......
Each and every one of these questions are already answered. Most of the answers you are looking for are even topics of posts that are stickied. Try searching. Or go into the General Info thread and just look at the top 10 or so posts. If you have a specific question on the process, we can help, but I doubt that anyone is going to answer all of your questions here. Mostly because there are no easy answers and each recommendation will come with some caveats, all of which are listed in their respective threads. Good luck.

cjranucci said:
Yeah......
Each and every one of these questions are already answered. Most of the answers you are looking for are even topics of posts that are stickied. Try searching. Or go into the General Info thread and just look at the top 10 or so posts. If you have a specific question on the process, we can help, but I doubt that anyone is going to answer all of your questions here. Mostly because there are no easy answers and each recommendation will come with some caveats, all of which are listed in their respective threads. Good luck.
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Thanks. You are right. I'll summarize what I do later.
Btw, I suppose there is no big NO NO about this device in terms of how it is set up. For example, for some android device, getting OTA is the end of day for some key functionality such as unlock/root. I don't find those problems relevant for gs3 by reading around. Please correct me if wrong.

I'd take it out of the box...

mailxd said:
Thanks. You are right. I'll summarize what I do later.
Btw, I suppose there is no big NO NO about this device in terms of how it is set up. For example, for some android device, getting OTA is the end of day for some key functionality such as unlock/root. I don't find those problems relevant for gs3 by reading around. Please correct me if wrong.
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did the following:
1) easy root
2) install recovery
3) backup using recovery
4) flash Canadian ROM + desirable modem (so google voice call log works ok)
5) disable not useful apps from Samsung
6) install apps
7) check auto updates/notifications/sync settings for apps
8) backup using recovery

Noob questions

Hi everyone,
I just recently acquired a Note 8 (5110), my first Samsung device (had 2 Sony and 1 Motorola android phones) and I'm a little lost, trying to figure about custom roms, root, recovery and everything :-S
1) What's the disadvantages of rooting? I read somewhere that some apps don't work
2) Do I need to backup something before rooting/flashing kernel/etc? I'm not talking about /system or /data, I'm asking if there's some partition or other thing to backup in case i need my warranty.
3) In CM11 thread, I read that the only bug is BT Voice Search. Does this means that everything, including S-Pen, is working?
4) In CM, will I be able to install some Samsung apps, like Readers Hub? There's a lot of crapware in stock, but some are useful.
I apologize if these questions were answered a lot before, thanks in advance
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Couldn't wait, installer CM11 already If this helps someone:
1) Still don't know, but already know that I can unroot any time and can zero the count that says you are on custom rom
2) EFS partition backuped
3) Right now everything is working, but it's too soon to say
4) Still searching for this, right now I'm looking for good alternatives

Rooting and a few questions.

I've never rooted before so bear with me. I would really like to root my 2014 edition. But have a few questions. I've been reading things for a while but just don't understand some of the terms and things that are used to do this.
1. Is there a root method available for Build JSS15J.P600UEUBMK1
2. If i do root and want to go back to stock ( lets say for warranty issues ) is there a way to go back and reset the counter to zero?
3. If i do root, is everything functional like stock? I really just want to root to get better sound by adding Viper to it and maybe get rid of some extra lag. Not really into changing things drastically from how it already comes out the box.
4. Should i backup my 2014 edition as it is now before i root? If so, then how do i do that process?
Thank You

skillzo1 said:
I've never rooted before so bear with me. I would really like to root my 2014 edition. But have a few questions. I've been reading things for a while but just don't understand some of the terms and things that are used to do this.
1. Is there a root method available for Build JSS15J.P600UEUBMK1
2. If i do root and want to go back to stock ( lets say for warranty issues ) is there a way to go back and reset the counter to zero?
3. If i do root, is everything functional like stock? I really just want to root to get better sound by adding Viper to it and maybe get rid of some extra lag. Not really into changing things drastically from how it already comes out the box.
4. Should i backup my 2014 edition as it is now before i root? If so, then how do i do that process?
Thank You
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**** sorry guys,...i think i posted this question in the wrong area. MODS PLEASE MOVE TO THE PROPER SECTION.