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Mozart my first 48hours.

I have a touch HD for the past 2 years and still have at present.
Anyway Orange offered Mozart as a new 18M contract as it was up for renewal.
First impressions are:-
BAD.
1) No standard Mini USB connection.(I though all phones were standardizing)
2) Why have said connection in side off phone. (This means no neat cradle on desktop)
3) No Mapping software. Also my Memory Map will not work.
4) No easy way to SD card.
5) Contacts transferred but lost pictures?
GOOD
1) Screen and colours are excellent. Better than Touch HD.
2) Software is brilliant so fast and slick. I really like it. (Wish my PC had this front end).
3) Zune works OK.
Nice to have:-
1) Memory Map.
2) Windows 6.5 apps could be recompiled to run on Windows 7 phones.
3) Clock was bigger on front screen say a block with a clock.
4) Enlarge text option.
Will I keep it?
Still thinking of trading both in for a HD2. But if software I need was coming I would stick with it.
PS Anyone know how to get video recorder just keep getting camera.

BazzerBazzer said:
1) No standard Mini USB connection.(I though all phones were standardizing)
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Standard is Micro-USB which your phone clearly has.
2) Why have said connection in side off phone. (This means no neat cradle on desktop)
3) No Mapping software. Also my Memory Map will not work.
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eh?!
4) No easy way to SD card.
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There is no exchangeable SD card, so what did you expect?
5) Contacts transferred but lost pictures?
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Maybe you should have asked how to transfer contacts correctly.
PS Anyone know how to get video recorder just keep getting camera.
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In the camera-application press on the on-screen-button on the right to switch to video.

BazzerBazzer said:
I1) No standard Mini USB connection.(I though all phones were standardizing)
2) Why have said connection in side off phone. (This means no neat cradle on desktop)
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i assume he means the USB connection is either on the top or bottom of the phone as opposed to the side. therefore, a phone cradle for the phone is unlikely of being produced since it can't be slid into the cradle sideways............is my guess.
Don't see how this is a phone negative...someone will make a cradle for it eventually

Krissrock said:
i assume he means the USB connection is either on the top or bottom of the phone as opposed to the side. therefore, a phone cradle for the phone is unlikely of being produced since it can't be slid into the cradle sideways............is my guess.
Don't see how this is a phone negative...someone will make a cradle for it eventually
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Ah...okay...the Xperia X1 also had the USB port on the right but there have been cradles eventually. There is an extra cable to plug into the USB port after sliding the phone into the cradle. In my opinion this is a benefit because I do not want to charge the phone everytime I place it into the cradle and with this extra cable I can decide if the phone should be charged or not.

Krissrock said:
i assume he means the USB connection is either on the top or bottom of the phone as opposed to the side. therefore, a phone cradle for the phone is unlikely of being produced since it can't be slid into the cradle sideways............is my guess.
Don't see how this is a phone negative...someone will make a cradle for it eventually
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If it's anything like the HD7 he means that it isn't in the centre of the phone which means generic cradles can't be used.

skycamefalling said:
Standard is Micro-USB which your phone clearly has.
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Yes; annoyingly, even though Mini-USB emerged as a standard over the last few years, and even though the reasoning behind the formal standardisation was to reduce the number of chargers that had to be produced and which ended up in landfill, the companies involved decided to use variant of the standard Micro-USB instead; dismissing the opportunity to gain a head start in their quest by utilising the enormous number of phone already out in the world towards their goals.
And that was all one sentence.
However, the decision was not voluntary. It was requested by.. I forget who. Some governments I think. So, why would they want to use an existing standard when they can sell more accessories by using a different one? Apple are in on the deal too, so the next iPhone should have a Micro-USB connector.
In their defence, Micro-USB is probably a better choice than Mini-USB as devices are sure to get thinner and the Micro-USB socket has a narrower profile.

Thought About the Laptop Dock

I was thinking about this yesterday and I don't see why this wouldn't be possible.
According to Motorola all the Laptop Dock is, is a screen keyboard and mouse. In the interest of saving money, why not just take an old netbook, take out the internals and convert it? I'm not exactly skilled with electronics but I don't see why this wouldn't be possible, you would need to either keep the DC board (if it is separate) or remove it from the motherboard itself. Then it would just be a matter of converting the LCD to HDMI Input and linking the USB's to the Atrix. At which point you just plug your phone via 2 cables and voila, it would work. Granted you would clearly need to change the connectors for the Keyboard and trackpad, but strip down an HDMI Multimedia dock and I could easily see this being done and saving money. (easily being subjective)

That might be challenging. Adding an HDMI input to a screen that wasn't designed with it is very difficult and potentially expensive. Most netbooks are using analog inputs and HDMI is digital.
The main way to go from analog to digital is a video capture device that encodes the analog signal. Those tend to have a fair bit of latency and are neither small nor cheap.
If you started with a display that supported HDMI input you could build a home brew laptop from that. Power might be an issue at that point though.
From what I have seen the Webtop is merely a feature of pluggin in the HDMI cable and selecting the appliction. The HDMI dock is not going to add much value other than be a convient and nice form factor.
I have considered doing somthing like you are suggesting but I am struggling with the HDMI issue. Currently the only option seems to be taking a display that supports HDMI and converting it into a homebrew laptop. At this time I can't find a digital display that is smaller that 20". An 11-15 inch screen that supports HDMI doesn't seem to exist.

I have thought of the same thing. The sticking point in my mind is the HDMI connection to the screen. The keyboard and mouse are likely just regular usb devices.
The next problem is that my Frankenstein device may cost $100+ to create and will likely look like crap.
The next problem is that the webtop appears to be locked down unless you have a tethering plan.
My conclusion from all of this is that it is cheaper and cleaner to buy a netbook and either add tethering only when necessary or root the device and add barnacle wifi.

If I'm not mistaken though, a netbook with an 11.6 inch display probably isn't only analog. I have a Toshiba T215-S1150 as well as an Asus EeePC that I'm looking into doing such with.
Granted off the top of my head a Pixel Qi display may accomplish such but I'm not sure if that is a Digital Input display.
I could be wrong though but I thought that in the end it's an LCD panel, the inputs are sodered on as to how you want to allow a Video Input.

You say the laptop dock is locked down without a tethering plan, one thing I did notice is you can buy the HDMI dock and it doesn't require it. You can use it with webtop also, I don't see how AT&T can determine if you are using Webtop on a Laptop or on a Desktop. Especially since from what I can tell, plugging in an HDMI cable will bring up the option for webtop also.
I don't see how the Frankenstein device is going to look bad especially since you will be removing most of the internals, you just remove a VGA port or plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI out. Then you use the USB as it was intended to connect the device to the rest of the internals. I know I'm not an electrical engineer or anything, but I know enough of the basics to see how this could work.
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I have thought of the same thing. The sticking point in my mind is the HDMI connection to the screen. The keyboard and mouse are likely just regular usb devices.
The next problem is that my Frankenstein device may cost $100+ to create and will likely look like crap.
The next problem is that the webtop appears to be locked down unless you have a tethering plan.
My conclusion from all of this is that it is cheaper and cleaner to buy a netbook and either add tethering only when necessary or root the device and add barnacle wifi.
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In regards to the tethering plan:
As I understand it the only requirement to have the tethering plan is to get the subsidy on the Laptop dock.
If you purchase the laptop dock outside a subsidized bundle then there is no need for a tethering plan.
As naturefreak85 said. The dock will allow webtop to launch as will a basic HDMI cable.
There is a video on you tube of a guy doing a demo where he plugs in an HDMI cable and webtop gives an option to launch.
AT&T is merely foisting the tethering plan on people who get the laptop dock on the $500 bundle. If you want to drop $500 on teh dock seperatly there is no requirement.
Mod's and Homebrew can look good. Thats up to the artist. For me its not about circumventing the $500 dock. Its about building somthing cool.
In regards to the HDMI/netbook thing... I did a little more thinking on how that works.
The motherboard has an LCD controller on it which sits between the video adapter on the MB and the LCD.
It goes:
Motherboard->Video Adapter (on silicon)->LCD controller->ribbon cable->LCD
There is also a LCD backlight and inverter involved.
If you just try to plug into the ribbon cable you loose the controller (and backlight inverter)
The contorller is the missing link and they are difficult to purchase on their own in any cost effective manner.
That is where canabalizing a monitor would workas it has a controller with it. The netbook/laptop has thecontroller embeded or loosely couple with the MB.
The hunt goes on.

I'll have to do some research on the schematics of my 1000HA and see the connection the display has to the motherboard. I figure it could be done in terms of converting the display to HDMI, just a matter of figuring out the right pinout and still supplying the right amount of power.
I would love to bring this to fruition because I've never done too much modding, but always been interested in such. I envision the ability to lift up the keyboard and plug the phone in, then lay the keyboard right back down. To the average viewer, it's a laptop but you are keeping your phone nicely protected/connected in it especially nice on an airplane. Much harder to leave a laptop behind vs a phone.

emoose said:
As I understand it the only requirement to have the tethering plan is to get the subsidy on the Laptop dock.
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We will likely found out the answer to this on Monday, but the ATT page seems to say that tethering is required for use of firefox in the webtop mode.
The Atrix page on ATT's website states:
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Full Firefox® browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires DataPro 4GB Personal plan.
** Although, on second thought, that may be an "ATT Requirement" but it doesn't necessarily mean that the browser won't work.

Right as I read that it means, in order to use Webtop on 3G you need the tethering plan, but at the same time, I'm not sure how they can differentiate between desktop firefox if you change the ID tag of it. Plus they don't restrict it if used on WiFi.
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We will likely found out the answer to this on Monday, but the ATT page seems to say that tethering is required for use of firefox in the webtop mode.
The Atrix page on ATT's website states:
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Full Firefox® browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires DataPro 4GB Personal plan.
** Although, on second thought, that may be an "ATT Requirement" but it doesn't necessarily mean that the browser won't work.
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naturefreak85 said:
I'll have to do some research on the schematics of my 1000HA and see the connection the display has to the motherboard. I figure it could be done in terms of converting the display to HDMI, just a matter of figuring out the right pinout and still supplying the right amount of power.
I would love to bring this to fruition because I've never done too much modding, but always been interested in such. I envision the ability to lift up the keyboard and plug the phone in, then lay the keyboard right back down. To the average viewer, it's a laptop but you are keeping your phone nicely protected/connected in it especially nice on an airplane. Much harder to leave a laptop behind vs a phone.
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The issue is laptop displays typically use LVDS, which is very incompatible with DVI/HDMI signals. You basically need a DVI>LVDS board, which will run into the hundreds of dollars to buy like that.
Unless your laptop uses DisplayPort for it's display connection (unlikely on a netbook,) in which case it would basically be a matter of including a 'cheap' DVI>Displayport converter then pin-matching it to the screen.
I'm actively working on a way to achieve it, too, though (with my Asus Eee 1215T.)

Sjael said:
The issue is laptop displays typically use LVDS, which is very incompatible with DVI/HDMI signals. You basically need a DVI>LVDS board, which will run into the hundreds of dollars to buy like that.
Unless your laptop uses DisplayPort for it's display connection (unlikely on a netbook,) in which case it would basically be a matter of including a 'cheap' DVI>Displayport converter then pin-matching it to the screen.
I'm actively working on a way to achieve it, too, though (with my Asus Eee 1215T.)
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Doing a little bit more research and we have a possible solution, it may require splicing out the HDMI cable to get audio off the connector but this could work.....and it's $29
http://www.google.com/products/cata...og_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCAQ8wIwAA#

naturefreak85 said:
Doing a little bit more research and we have a possible solution, it may require splicing out the HDMI cable to get audio off the connector but this could work.....and it's $29
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This is a board designed for a specific miniITX motherboard - it takes whatever the mobo puts out and turns it into DVI and LVDS. If you could figure out what signals you need to provide to that board, then make those out of an HDMI signal, you might have a way in. Not sure just what functions that board actually provides, and it would be a rather extensive project to find out. I'm guessing that since it has a fair bit of circuitry behind the DVI port, it's not a natively DVI/HDMI-compatible signal.
That means a bit of reverse-engineering though, which I'm not *too* keen on doing. My current line of thought involves using some form of portable media player with a decent screen, since they typically accept some form of video input, haxxed into a case with a USB keyboard and (maybe) touchpad. The hard part is finding a usable screen that is actually better than the one on the Atrix.
That, or find a broken (not the screen! ) modern, high-end laptop that uses Displayport for it's display..

[Q] Atrix Laptop dock work with HTC EVO?

From what I can tell, the placement of the connectors is about right (width), but I think one of the connectors is upside down if you compare the EVO USB/HDMI and the Atrix USB/HDMI, so I am not sure that it would fit.
Next step in my brainstorm would be to use extension cables to compensate for the twisted connector, and rig up a jig/adapter plate to securely hold the EVO onto the laptop dock.
Once the hardware could be connected, we have to deal with software, firmware, kernels and the like. I've seen that HDMI mirroring is mostly done, and I imagine that the Motorola webtop software will be hacked/ported or cloned at some point. Although, even just running the EVO on the main screen would be sweet enough for me (for now).
I would declare it cooler than sliced bread if I could use my EVO with the Atrix laptop dock, or had something similar for my EVO. (if I could just get HDMI in, I'd use an old laptop as a shell).
Thoughts and ideas?

i seriously doubt it will work. although the microusb and hdmi might be the same, there is a lot on the software side that has to be done in order for the evo to work. its probably proprietary code, which wouldnt be a huge deal, but there wont be enough interest due to the fact the dock is 200 dollars. so it may be possible, but i wouldnt have my hopes up

I'm pretty stingy in general, although more liberal when it comes to technology and gadgets, and I don't feel that $200 would be wasted or expensive (more than that would quickly get too expensive though) on something like that. Maybe just because I have dreamed of doing something similar ever since I got my Sony u7 50p a few years back, but I still think it would be awesome!

USB host and full HDMI out are mostly driver module issues and would be covered by GPL. As far as the UI,a launcher switch triggered by "Dock Mode" is already in place, it would just need an options pop-up to select which mode you wanted to use like the USB does when you connect to a PC. Something like And-Win home screen would work as a desktop UI to start. The only issue I see would be if there's a validation check from the lapdock or media dock.

Last I looked (a while ago) I could not find any mention of people using/turning on USB host support on an EVO. Do you know anything about that? I'm not sure what the GPL is though...

You woulld be much better off (and cheaper) to buy a 13inch monitor, connect hdmi from evo to monitor, and use the FullHDMI app, with a bluetooth keyboard of course.

AllanonMage said:
From what I can tell, the placement of the connectors is about right (width), but I think one of the connectors is upside down if you compare the EVO USB/HDMI and the Atrix USB/HDMI, so I am not sure that it would fit.
Next step in my brainstorm would be to use extension cables to compensate for the twisted connector, and rig up a jig/adapter plate to securely hold the EVO onto the laptop dock.
Once the hardware could be connected, we have to deal with software, firmware, kernels and the like. I've seen that HDMI mirroring is mostly done, and I imagine that the Motorola webtop software will be hacked/ported or cloned at some point. Although, even just running the EVO on the main screen would be sweet enough for me (for now).
I would declare it cooler than sliced bread if I could use my EVO with the Atrix laptop dock, or had something similar for my EVO. (if I could just get HDMI in, I'd use an old laptop as a shell).
Thoughts and ideas?
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The connectors aren't even CLOSE.
The motorola webtop stuff is actually a full linux environment, and when it boots up it uses a whole core of the tegra.
Keep in mind the atrix is still "running" android on the other core.
Even if this WAS possible, it would be so entirely laggy it would not be worth it at all. (And having tried the dock for the atrix, it's a complete waste of money in my honest opinion. _ANY_ netbook priced at ~$250 USD outperforms it.)
Hate to break it to you, but no, you'll never see it "ported."
As far as I can see, the best you're going to get is hdmi out (to a regular screen) and maybe once someone gets around to enabling the proper USB option host based devices. (keyboard, etc. But enjoy hacking your cables up to make a proper adaptor)

I don't suppose you have a lead on anyone (or thread) working on USB host for the EVO do you?

While you may be able to mirror on the laptops screen and have it charge. The only thing thats seemingly impossible is to make use of the touchpad through a hardwired connection. You're better off to trying to jerry rig a bluetooth keyboard w/ integrated track pad, a tiny HDMI enabled screen, and a battery source.

AllanonMage said:
I don't suppose you have a lead on anyone (or thread) working on USB host for the EVO do you?
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The closest thing I've found was a "needs testing" driver for the HD2 port of the Evo ROM. There doesn't seem to be much interest from the devs.

Sounds like a plan. You should pick one up asap.

ryohei47 said:
i seriously doubt it will work. although the microusb and hdmi might be the same, there is a lot on the software side that has to be done in order for the evo to work. its probably proprietary code, which wouldnt be a huge deal, but there wont be enough interest due to the fact the dock is 200 dollars. so it may be possible, but i wouldnt have my hopes up
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I personally have the lapdock AND the OG EVO works with it (using AnthraX) although I had to twist the HDMI cable it does so on screen...
It works in Landscape as well as Portrait but the USB's do NOT work with it...
any idea on how to get it working?

je2854 said:
I personally have the lapdock AND the OG EVO works with it (using AnthraX) although I had to twist the HDMI cable it does so on screen...
It works in Landscape as well as Portrait but the USB's do NOT work with it...
any idea on how to get it working?
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Reviving an ancient request. Anyone has this working? I tried like above and got the hdmi and charging working, but not usbs...

fflakes said:
Reviving an ancient request. Anyone has this working? I tried like above and got the hdmi and charging working, but not usbs...
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I'm sorry buddy I have switched company's but I believe it is just a matter of drivers needed to be installed

[Q] Is there a way to connect a X8 to a TV?

Hey guys,
I wonder if there is a way to connect our x8 with a tv, that would be nice, Seeing the extra connectors on the earphones jack, i can only assume that there is some special cable that plugs there.
Plus a bluetooth keyboard will make going online lot easier, connected to your TV?
Maybe a ebay link if someone knows?

No there is no way to connect x8 to TV, that connector is for earphones with controls

Apparently, I think there is a way See the screen on TV.
I'm sure there is an app for x8 that streams the screen to a PC. After this, you only have to connect the PC to the TV. Hope this helps.

Asycid said:
Apparently, I think there is a way See the screen on TV.
I'm sure there is an app for x8 that streams the screen to a PC. After this, you only have to connect the PC to the TV. Hope this helps.
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there is an app to stream the x8 screen to a pc? over what usb? and how do you watch it?
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you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)...

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BierLiebHaber said:
there is an app to stream the x8 screen to a pc? over what usb? and how do you watch it?
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It streams through LAN or Internet.
Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQqW3Oj0go

Asycid said:
It streams through LAN or Internet.
Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQqW3Oj0go
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nice but i think it would defy his use since if he could/wanted to connect a PC to a TV he wouldnt need the phone to surf.

BierLiebHaber said:
nice but i think it would defy his use since if he could/wanted to connect a PC to a TV he wouldnt need the phone to surf.
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But this way, he gets the keyboard too!
BTW I tried this software and I must say it's really impressive. Only backshot is that its FPS is about 4-5 what is not so much. BUT if you want to show pictures to the whole family, it can be a more easier way than to upload them to the PC.
If you have a wireless headset, you even can control your phone calls from the PC too! Not to mention that you can easily write SMS with keyboard instead of the touch screen.

BierLiebHaber said:
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you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)...
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LOL!
Srsly, how can people even suggest things like these?
If you don't know about what you are talking about then ask first.
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Nikkopt said:
LOL!
Srsly, how can people even suggest things like these?
If you don't know about what you are talking about then ask first.
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why i suggested it since its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN.
plus:
I know for a fact that ppl hacked their GBCs and GBs to have a VGA connection so it should be possible... I didnt say I could do it but it would be possible.

BierLiebHaber said:
why i suggested it since its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN.
plus:
I know for a fact that ppl hacked their GBCs and GBs to have a VGA connection so it should be possible... I didnt say I could do it but it would be possible.
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"its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN" and still you insist this is possible...
And about the gameboy example, google how they did it and tell me if it's as easy and feasible as you think.
If it is possible, it's certainly not on the lcd flex..

Nikkopt said:
"its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN" and still you insist this is possible...
And about the gameboy example, google how they did it and tell me if it's as easy and feasible as you think.
If it is possible, it's certainly not on the lcd flex..
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yes i am insisting that it is possible but i didnt say it was feasible or easy (or should be done by me or the topc starter)
about the gameboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fX7143X_gQ
once again not easy or feasible but that wasnt the point i was trying to make. i just said it is (read would be) possible.

BierLiebHaber said:
yes i am insisting that it is possible but i didnt say it was feasible or easy (or should be done by me or the topc starter)
about the gameboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fX7143X_gQ
once again not easy or feasible but that wasnt the point i was trying to make. i just said it is (read would be) possible.
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This is what you said :
"you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)..."
It just says here he could "mod" the flex so he could connect a vga/dvi plug on it, you are just unsure if the wires could fit or not, you also state that what passes tru the flex is a video stream but i'm not even touching that subject.
So ok, you just solder some wires to the flex or the flex header, attach the other end of the wires to the dvi/vga plug and you are done.
Now look at the video you sent me, the guy is using an altera dev board (looks like a cyclone II starter, which costs more than 200 dollars) to poorly convert the simple lcd signals of the gameboy pocket into vga. Now imagine doing the same thing into something 5000x more complex and that uses a completely different signaling interface. Can it be done? Probably yes, with equipment that costs thousands and thousands of dollars and an intelligent guy with solid knowledge in electronics. Imagine how many phones with hdmi you could buy with that money.
Also, it would be easier to find a video out on the SOC pins than doing that (if it has one)

Nikkopt said:
This is what you said :
"you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)..."
It just says here he could "mod" the flex so he could connect a vga/dvi plug on it, you are just unsure if the wires could fit or not, you also state that what passes tru the flex is a video stream but i'm not even touching that subject.
So ok, you just solder some wires to the flex or the flex header, attach the other end of the wires to the dvi/vga plug and you are done.
Now look at the video you sent me, the guy is using an altera dev board (looks like a cyclone II starter, which costs more than 200 dollars) to poorly convert the simple lcd signals of the gameboy pocket into vga. Now imagine doing the same thing into something 5000x more complex and that uses a completely different signaling interface. Can it be done? Probably yes, with equipment that costs thousands and thousands of dollars and an intelligent guy with solid knowledge in electronics. Imagine how many phones with hdmi you could buy with that money.
Also, it would be easier to find a video out on the SOC pins than doing that (if it has one)
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ok i have to admit i have made it sound too easy but i didnt mean just solder wires to the felx header and plug them into a vga or dvi plug. (and yes i do know that you dont transmision video streams to the lcd...)
anyways next time I'll be carefull not to write something that i didnt think about for less that 20 secs *sry*

Isn't this phone too weak to do that anyway? ;P

Ipod classic 4th generation can do that, it is freaking let down that a 2010 phone cannot!

ivanjkd said:
Ipod classic 4th generation can do that, it is freaking let down that a 2010 phone cannot!
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It's a basic phone, if you want more features you have to buy one more expensive
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I remember i've connected my laptop to our TV via HDMI a while ago, so with this it should be done easily with one of those screen streaming programs.
Connecting a 3.5mm to 3.55mm jack cable between the line-out and line-in of the pc would also give sound.
Though i don't think you meant getting a PC with it along
The special hole along the audio cable is for microphone, if you have a Nintendo DS, you'll find the same connector below, i think.

Lol
xperia x8 + root + ginger dx v013 (2.3.5)+multitouch

1. Install DroidExplorer on your computer
2. Enable USB Debug on your device
3. Plugin the usb cable on your phone and computer (you need to have the phone drivers installed on your computer, or SE PC Suite)
4. Open DroidExplorer and find the ScreenCast or whatelse and...
5. Connect your computer to your TV
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SGSII MHL/HDMI Adapter

I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4

Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.

ctomgee said:
I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.
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Sounds like an idea. I use mine for FPSE as well. And N64oid. Spent about an hour playing Super Smash Brothers before work today. Only cut out about three times during that run, lol.

In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.

Bloodrainer said:
In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.
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Have not tried airplane mode. Mostly, this is because I often use it as a desktop computer. Actually does the job fairly well. 19" flatscreen TV, BT keyboard and mouse, web browsing becomes a much more pleasant experience.
Mozilla needs to get off their asses and add an option to change the text size though. Dolphin works great but doesn't agree with some sites.

Indeed, that type of use shows the awesomeness of this device, i sometimes use Ubuntu, there's a nice package posted somewhere here, Firefox, GIMP etc on a cellphone is amazing. But enough of that ot, if airplane mode doesn't give you those cuts then when reconnected to cells try to position the cable in a way that it wont catch so much interference, i connect it to a 27" tv/monitor/tuner/almost coffee maker combo, and depending on positioning i can catch the moment when i'm going to loose signal by the tv's speakers catching the interference. Maybe you can find a position where it wont cut, i was able to position it in a safe way, so i believe it might be the lack of any screening at the chip on the cheap design.

one quick question i bought the mhl adapter from dealextreme a while ago but i´ve never really used till now since i bought a ps3 controller, my question regards image quality.
I am aware that the mhl adapter that i bought it isn´t the official but many people rated it high quality, when i play for example an emulator or riptige gp the image quality looks a lot better on the phone than it does on a tv or pc monitor, i´ve tested both, i don´t know if its just because the screen is smaller the image looks sharper but for example playing mario 64 on a big screen the image looks a bit squared/pixelated.
I even installed a pc emulator to compare (looks better), forced anti aliasing with chainfire and still looks pixelated.
The info that appears on my monitor is that the image is working at 1080i 1920*1080.
Is this normal ?

I have the official Samsung MHL adapter. It works great, the only issue is the display is a little bit trimmed off from the top and bottom. I have checked it on multiple TVs so I don't think TV settings are the issue.

mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.

Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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My original adapter has cuts followed by a horrible noise. It was a lot worse when i used the charger that comes with the phone, probably the electrical distribution in my block sucks. Powering the adapter with USB power from my notebook almost solved the problem.
But it's quite pointless powering the cellphone with a computer instead of just using the computer's HDMI... In fact the MHL support sucks IMO, the only true 1080i/p is the video player, not even the photo viewer supports it! The other manufacturers like HTC, LG, Motorola and even NVidia had the descence of releasing an API enabling this functionality since it's not supported by Android itself.
Now that Bloodrainer mentioned, I never used the MHL in airplane mode... interesting...

Well, i get nasty noise in audio output when connected to a cheap car charger, so yea, i'd vote for your houses electric wiring, sadly i dont know much about electrics my vote would be to try a grounded plug with a surge protector?

Bloodrainer said:
mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.
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hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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No clue about api support, none of the AOSP based roms suport MHL, as it requires much of the samsungs frame and stuff, so sadly cm, miui, etc dont support MHL, not tried the leaked ICS yet, but i belive it should support MHL as its samsung's release.

Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I have bought original MHL adapter and i face d exact same issue. I have tried various media players, stock ROMs, stock kernels and still d same issue keeps coming
See this post 297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036874
Hope someone can help finding exact cause of this issue

mousiope said:
hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this

pogui said:
not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this
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incorrect i use the stock lp6 leaked rom and my samsung mhl adapter works fine.

I entered Flight Mode as Bloodrainer said, and apparently this fixed the cuts.

Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?

Dematank said:
Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?
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I didn't think CyanogenMod supported MHL out at all...
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