Are SBC kernels really that dangerous? Theres some horror stories floating around about batteries that have nearly exploded and smoke literally coming out of the battery because the trickle charge causes the battery to overcharge, which apparently Li-ion batteries dont take very well to.
Has anyone on here had any problems? I usually charge my phone over night and its fairly close to my head, so i would prefer to not wake up to a loud pop and 3rd degreee chemical burns. But at the same time SBC kernels definitely give me more battery life, at least 10%. my phone stays between 100%-90% for a while rather than dropping right away.
I also have an extra battery, so im not too worried about the battery just losing its ability to accept a charge. I just dont want it to blow up in my face.
I haven't had any problems using it. As far as I know it was all just rumor and no proof or pics of it actually happening.
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I haven't had any problems using it. As far as I know it was all just rumor and no proof or pics of it actually happening.
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I did see one pic, which is why i believe it to some extent. The inside of the guys case looked like the battery had been letting off quite a bit of smoke. If trickle charge had absolutely no negative effect on the battery, im sure HTC would have implemented it in the first place. I dont think exploding should be a frequent problem, at least with htc batteries, because the battery itself has a small chip that should play a part in regulating charge. Maybe 3rd party batteries have something different that allow them to accept too much charge.
When the SBC kernels were first being discussed a few months back, there were several reports of battery exploding/catching on fire among other things, but I haven't read or heard anything of that nature in quite awhile and there have been quite a few SBC kernels introduced since that time and a lot of people use them.
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Myself and a friend with over 6 months of use and no issues to report. Both stock and cheap $10 extended batteries have been used.
Never had an issue using SBC kernal. My wife and I both use Netarches SBC kernal.
Have been using net's 4.1.9.1 sbc more havs since it came out....no problems great battery life...used it on myn's 2.2......warm z and finally on Koni's elite roms...which I have stayed with since they were introduced.....if you haven't tried Koni's....you probably should.....it is by far the best rom out there.....please see for yourself......you won't be disappointed.
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I was nervous at first too about this whole SBC thing, then I decided to go for it and I haven't gone back. My battery is usually cooler then with a nonsbc and I get easily an extra hour of use with them.
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Im using tiamat 3.3.8 sbc kernel and haven't had issues for three months. I kept a close eye on vitals with the battery monitor widget. Highest mV was 4219 and highest temp was 51 C (59 C in a hot car). No sign of smoking, plating, or degradation in performance.
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Only thing I can say is that sbc will wear your battery down quicker in time due to it over charging lol but hell there only 10 bucks on ebay so what you have to lose lol.
It was like 8 evos out of like millions but since then there hasn't been much if any problems
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Is it "more dangerous"? Probably. But to date I think there were 7 or 8 people with battery issues. I personally haven't had any SBC issues across many roms/kernels.
Those 8 people, or however many, had those problems in the earliest days of SBC development, for one thing.
Also, can those problems really be attributed to the SBC kernel? Or were they coincidentally just all using SBC.
It's like the white screen of Death. It started wit ha few perople on CM7, and the rumor was CM was frying their phones.....
Til it happened on every other setup, too.
anyone know if the sbc mod works while the phone is off
It does not, sbc only works when the phone is at 100% and on, all other times its using the stock charge setup
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Can someone explain why my battery sheds the first 10 percent from full charge within a half hour or direct me to a post that could explain this?
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From what I've read, there's a chip inside the OEM batteries (the ones sold by HTC and included with the Evo) that prevents the battery from maintaining a full charge. This is because maintaining a full charge can overheat and overvolt the battery and cause problems.
Thus, when you unplug, your battery drops to where the charge actually ends up when the chip stops the charge from destroying the battery.
We used to have SBC kernels that rectified this problem, but after a couple of idiots forgot the part where it says "this may harm your phone, use with caution" they went on a terror-filled witch hunt and had them all taken down.
So, until there's another way, you're stuck with that buddy. Best of luck.
this is one of the more discussed topics nowadyas, or more the fix is.
so, li-on batterys like the evo one, can be damadged/metallic plated by containing a full charge for an extended period of time. so, battery manufacturers made charginng cycles, so once the battery is full, the charger will fully turn off until it has reached 90, and then power back up again.
recently, ms(numbers i cant remember. confusing username) made sbc (superior battery charging) kernels, that trickle charged, so your phone would sit at 4.2mV and not cycle. there has been much controversy about these, including some finger pointing and borked batteries (mine has never been the same since using these, but i really dont want to blame ms########) have lead to most if not all links being removed from the xda. too bad.
Thanks for the info guys, I just flashed a different kernal and did some set CPU clocking tweaks that have made me over joyed but for now it seems that the first 10 percent will have to be sacrificed, before I rooted my phone I got almost 18 hours out of my batt using juice defender I'm hoping for similar or better scores but I can't complain too much with the performance now
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Thanks for the info guys, I just flashed a different kernal and did some set CPU clocking tweaks that have made me over joyed but for now it seems that the first 10 percent will have to be sacrificed, before I rooted my phone I got almost 18 hours out of my batt using juice defender I'm hoping for similar or better scores but I can't complain too much with the performance now
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Easiest way to fix the instant drain is to unplug your phone when it has a full charge. Let it drop to around 92 percent <---My personal preference or you can wait about fifteen minutes. Plug your phone back in and wait for the led to turn green and unplug it right after it turns green. BOOM! All problems solved!
Good humor man....
If your phone was at 100% for a period of time, you would feel more at ease about using it. That would bring about three things.
First increased network usage. Secondly increased phone position among its competitors because of one. Thirdly an increased consumption of batteries, since batteries are based on a chemical reaction which is limited by design. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand it. Go to a university chemistry department and they will point you in the right direction. No flashing of internet credentials.
So you want a solution? You can't handle a solution.
Why not give this a shot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
okay i have alot of thoughts and questions on the htc evo battery life. first off i think the devs have done a great job with improving it but in reality we aren't there yet IMO. i mean coming from the hero after calibration and a 1750mAh battery i had what id call good battery life, even without the use of custom kernels or setcpu. even with calibration on the evo, the bottom line is the battery life sucks ass. i cannot even believe htc released a phone with such ****ty battery issues. ive even seen posts on here from people with extended batteries with crap battery life as well.
number 1 they should of shipped it with a higher capacity slimline battery. if it weren't for the devs here the phone would be unusable as i can remember the first time i bought the evo in july i had it for a week and got rid of it the battery was soo bad.
then we have battery mod scripts like calkins & the colin tweak that honestly never did much for my phone. then of course the much debated sbc mod that alot of people says created issues. my own take on it is it seems more of a visual effect or placebo than anything. yes it seems to hold a charge a bit longer but only when the phone is not in use. whats the sense of owning a phone such as great as the evo but be afraid to use it at all?
the reason i do not use sbc is because something to me doesn't seem right about the way it charges the battery. for example: my phone had 88% battery left before i flashed the sbc mod, then after reboot it was back to fully charged? how the hell can that be possible?
so im sorry for venting but sometimes i think i may look into a smaller android phone such as the optimus s or another hero. does the evo shift have these issues as well?
so now i ask for advice from the users that "claim" to get well over 24hrs battery life on stock batteries. im running myn's rls4 rom with the netarchy 4.2.2 /less havs/ no sbc kernel. if i choose to use setcpu and do not want to overclock what settings should work best? or did i hear that havs & setcpu do not play well together?
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My biggest issue is that it's very inconsistent. I'm on MikFroyo 4.3. When I flashed this ROM I upgraded to all the newest radio, PRL, PRI, etc. It used the stock HTC #15 kernel and I was getting OUTSTANDING battery for the first 5-7 days. Then, literally overnight, my phone started losing 10% of its battery per hour while NOT IN USE. And, no, it wasn't the Up vs. Awake issue, I hadn't installed any new apps, none of that. So I "downgraded" PRI to 1.77 and STILL, absolutely horrible battery life. I've tried different kernels but nothing works. I can take my phone off the charger at 5am and be down to 15% battery by noon with LIGHT use. Signal strength isn't an issue either. It's just frustrating. I understand that these phones have large displays and constantly multi-task but you would think HTC would realize that these phones are going to be used by "power users" and plan ahead for it. But I suppose if our battery wasn't an issue we would just find something else to ***** about all day, lol.
Try miui, that rom gives me the best battery life I have ever seen.
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Try miui, that rom gives me the best battery life I have ever seen.
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+1. I get better battery life with my EVO running MIUI than I did on my Motorola Renegade clamshell phone, and probably twice the life I got with my Hero. I replace my battery with a charged one every morning and I generally still have 50-60% life left when I do that. I have gone 2 full days on a charge. I did not get this kind of battery life out of any sense ROM I have tried.
You say, MIUI, I say CM6 or 7. All depends on what you like, really in regards to ROM.
I can say that I do get better battery life on CM vs something like Myn's. My phone does stay on for more than 24hrs with somewhat light usage. That means the display is on for about 2-2:30hrs in that time while I browse the web or look at videos, but the rest of that time, it has all of its radios on and is constantly pulling down updates for Twitter, FB, NYT, and Yahoo Mail.
I haven't had any sudden drops in battery life, but if I did, I'd probably buy a new OEM or near-OEM quality battery to replace it.
My BB Tour used to do far less and yes, it lasted longer, like days without a charge, but it didn't have all this stuff going on. So yeah, comparing this large bar phone with its huge display, on-going processes is sorta unfair.
That said, I do wish it lasted 2 or 3 days with light usage.
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You say, MIUI, I say CM6 or 7. All depends on what you like, really in regards to ROM.
I can say that I do get better battery life on CM vs something like Myn's. My phone does stay on for more than 24hrs with somewhat light usage.
That said, I do wish it lasted 2 or 3 days with light usage.
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Coming from Myns rls 5 to cm7 both with stock kernels I could honestly say I see better battery life wit no OC on the CM7 rom. From my experience using warm 2.2 roms, I could get nearly 40 hours on the phone but in order for that to happen I have to barely use it. Which basically means its pointless. I mean if that's the case I might as well leave the phone turned off. Not to mention how much of your time that gets consumed searching for the perfect kernel to fit to your liking and phone.
I really do think the battery sucks on the evo but there are ways and roms to make it manageable. Sooner or later the new duel core & Tegra processors will be here soon, so bad battery life should be a thing of the past. Only because the CPU wont work so hard while sharing the strain we put on are phones. Lets just all sit tight and let technology take its coarse.
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+1 for MIUI. This is the best battery life I've ever seen. To the point where I stopped carrying my charger around. I still keep and extra battery just in case but I haven't had to use it in weeks. I get through the day easily on a full charge and I have no problem charging mine at night...I've been doing that since back in the day with flip phones. I thought everyone charged overnight while sleeping or is that not the norm?
Its also a norm for me if it needed it. Another reason I think MIUI and CM Roms are good on battery life is because ultimately they don't have 4g. I've been on the same charge all day and I still got some juice left to flash the new nightly for cm7. U gotta love it.
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Doesn't CM have 4G now? Even when I was on Sense roms I rarely ever used the 4G though. Same here though, I took my phone off the charger around 3pm, got home from work around 4am and still had plenty of juice left to back up, flash the new MIUI rom, and set it up. Seems like battery is getting better with every new release. No complaints here.
I don't get 24 hours battery, but I don't lose any battery while idle on a sense rom either. I'm on mikfroyo, with net's 4.3.1 cfs havs nosbc kernel. I'm using setcpu, and my screen off profile is 245 min and max smartass. With the screen off I barely lose any battery at all. I charge my phone periodically throughout the day, but I've gone 10+ hours off charger (with moderate usage, but no gaming or anything like that) and still had a good 40% battery left.
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Keep in mind these phones have 8mp cameras, 1ghz processor and tons of extra memory. Basically the equivalent of the lap top computers of 2 years ago.
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I don't get 24 hours battery, but I don't lose any battery while idle on a sense rom either. I'm on mikfroyo, with net's 4.3.1 cfs havs nosbc kernel. I'm using setcpu, and my screen off profile is 245 min and max smartass. With the screen off I barely lose any battery at all. I charge my phone periodically throughout the day, but I've gone 10+ hours off charger (with moderate usage, but no gaming or anything like that) and still had a good 40% battery left.
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Honestly anything over eight hours is descent especially if u still have juice left over. Even with that said and speaking for all the cm users, I can honestly say that netarchy kernels are definitely not needed using this rom. Even though its a great kernel, That would be kinda suicidal towards my battery life.
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Doesn't CM have 4G now? Even when I was on Sense roms I rarely ever used the 4G though. Same here though, I took my phone off the charger around 3pm, got home from work around 4am and still had plenty of juice left to back up, flash the new MIUI rom, and set it up. Seems like battery is getting better with every new release. No complaints here.
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Yeah, CM6 has wimax but CM7 doesn't. On the account of the Rom isn't stable yet.
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Hello,
I was just wondering how many people use trickle charging and what percentage of the people that use this kernel have had bad effects. Post a reply or vote on a poll.
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I've used it on the Stock & Extended battery without issue. msm####'s SBC-15 kernel.
Well over 2 months now.
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Hello,
I was just wondering how many people use trickle charging and what percentage of the people that use this kernel have had bad effects. Post a reply or vote on a poll.
Thanks
Edit: How did this get into the android development forum. I meant to put this in general. Please move it there.
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I've used it on the stock battery for about 2-3months now with no noticeable side effects. Battery stays at 100% for a little while, instead of dropping 10% depending on where the battery was during it's on/off charge cycle with non SBC kernels.
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Greatest kernel there is. Have used them for 3 months or more with stock and extended and have had no issues what so ever. Except for amazing battery life.
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i use miui rom with the savage kernel sbc 1.6 and don't have any problem at all on extended battery or stock.
Never had a problem with these wonderful kernels.
I haven't had any problems. been running sz on cm7 since the beginning off and on. I'm on the teamwin HDMI kernel right now though
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Apologizing before I can flame ruins my fun....
But yeah best kernel ever with extended battery.
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So far so good. I am using the latest SBC V7 right now on my 3500 extended battery. My Rom is myns rls1. I had 100% for a good 2hr and 10mins or so.
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I am pretty sure the so called "problem" with SBC kernals is a result of people buying cheap crappy chinese batteries, having one or two die, and not wanting to be blamed for them buying crappy batteries blamed something else. "OH SBC DID IT!"
just my 2 cents since this has only happened with a few batteries from my understanding and they were all cheap chinese batteries.
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So far so good. I am using the latest SBC V7 right now on my 3500 extended battery. My Rom is myns rls1. I had 100% for a good 2hr and 10mins or so.
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100% for 2hours? How much use?
I have been using SBC since the day it went public. I use it on a stock battery and a cheap a$$ eBay battery. Never had a single problem, longest i have went was at 100% was around 7 hours (0 use of course).
I have been using SBC since it was public quite a while back. No problems except better battery life.
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No problems. Been using it since it was released
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
I didn't use my phone for the 2hrs after I took it off the charger. I think I can get 20+ hours with moderate use. I think this kernel is working for me.
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Just switched like a week ago, I just take it off the charger before I fall asleep, don't want it on the charger for 7-9 hours. No issues yet. My battery was at 100% when I took it off the charger last night. I checked my Facebook & did a couple other things for about 20 mins and then turned wifi off & went to sleep. When I woke up 9 hours later it was still at 100%, and stayed that way for another 20 mins of use. Best battery life I've seen in a long time.
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Been using SBC kernels for awhile now, on multiple roms, and experiencing AMAZING battery life. With zero problems twords stock and 3500 ma batteries. I run this kernel on my company phones that are rooted as well. on average over 10 devices at a time with 0 compaints to date.
Vaelpak went back to a crappy kernel on his new 3.2 and my battery life started sucking it up again. Flashed back to SBC for Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 Non-HAVS v7. Ive found that to be the best when it comes to draining.
Even under heavy use I still get a solid 12 hours of battery on my 3500. Thats running GPS, Wifi, wifi tether, lots of emails, texts, and other communications on a busy day. During slow times Ive gotten a single charge to last 57 hours of light usage. That was with wifi and bluetooth enabled the whole time and juice defender running as well.
I have since recently dropped juice defender, and only using SBC, and seeing ~ 30-35 hours before full drain on normal usage.
Hi I've been looking around to find good kernals while running cyanogen mod 7 rc4. Some of the kernals I install like netatchy gives the screen a weird flickering. Can someone suggest a good kernal that's overclockable and stable. Thanks
Netarcys kernel really isn't for cm7 that's probably why its flickering. You should try savage zens latest sbc or non sbc kernel or tiamats sbc kernel both are pretty good. I'm running the tiamat sbc 3.3.4(great battery life) and I'm pretty happy with it.
Tiamat link. Be sure to get the evo version because he does kernels for the incredible also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746
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Thanks! Ill try them and I'm kinda new to kernals so what is the difference between SBC and no SBC
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Thanks! Ill try them and I'm kinda new to kernals so what is the difference between SBC and no SBC
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In a nutshell, sbc is a method of charging that allows you to "fully"(trickle) charge your battery. Normal kernels really only let you charge to about 90% for safety measures; while sbc lets you fully charge letting your battery completely fill. There's a few threads that talk about it if you search around to get more "details". I've been using them for months without any problems whatsoever. Good luck
Honestly I get great performance out of the stock kernel.
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Thanks, I just flashed the tiamat 3.3.4 SBC and everything so far is great! Btw I couldn't find it in the changelog but does this fix 4g cuz on stock kernal both the 3g icon and 4g icon show
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It's called a kernel.
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Thanks, I just flashed the tiamat 3.3.4 SBC and everything so far is great! Btw I couldn't find it in the changelog but does this fix 4g cuz on stock kernal both the 3g icon and 4g icon show
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That happens to me sometimes but not all the time. I believe that's still a problem with cm7 in general though. For best results I recommended going to settings/ cyanogenmod settings/ performance/CPU settings then use the "smart ass" governor. It has provided me with the best overall battery/performance. I also have my min freq at 245 and max freq at 1152.
Those are also my settings, I've discovered my evo can't go beyond 1.15ghz without locking up. I've been trying to get to 1.2 but no go
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Those are also my settings, I've discovered my evo can't go beyond 1.15ghz without locking up. I've been trying to get to 1.2 but no go
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Ahh neither can mine its reboot nation once I pass up 1190mhz.
Yeah wish i was a lucky one :/, so after installing kernels I'm getting 41.2 mflops and my quadrant benchmark is 1221
What are you getting?
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Yeah wish i was a lucky one :/, so after installing kernels I'm getting 41.2 mflops and my quadrant benchmark is 1221
What are you getting?
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I don't really put so much stock in scores anymore they don't mean anything to be honest. Dirk used to be a score whore but I just removed the apps so I wouldn't worry about it anymore. I came to terms that my scores won't go much higher then what they already were. Just ran 40 mflops and 1220 bench.
Yeah I just like the braging rights, hopefully they can figure how to overclock the gpu soon tho
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Yeah I just like the braging rights, hopefully they can figure how to overclock the gpu soon tho
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Bragging rights how's this for bragging rights; my 12 year old cousin has a tmobile g2(newer processor) which is stock clocked at only 800mhz. His phone scores a 60 on linpack and over 1500 on benchmark and its not even rooted lol. This is why I don't care about scores anymore
I just died a little inside :/ lol I wanna upgrade to the evo 3d soon tho and that's a dual core
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In a nutshell, sbc is a method of charging that allows you to "fully"(trickle) charge your battery. Normal kernels really only let you charge to about 90% for safety measures; while sbc lets you fully charge letting your battery completely fill. There's a few threads that talk about it if you search around to get more "details". I've been using them for months without any problems whatsoever. Good luck
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I just wanna correct this misconception because it led me astray and it took a good amount of research to realize this was wrong.
All kernels will charge the phone to 100%. That's not an issue. What happens is, once they are charged to 100%, they start draining battery again, and coupled with the fact that li-ions inherently lose charge over time, and the fact that most people haven't conditioned their battery's memory by properly charging it, by the time you pull your phone off the charger it's already lost that 10% (give or take).
Trickle charging hopes to fix this by "trickling" a small charge into the battery constantly once it hits 100%, to compensate for discharge, so that it stays at 100%. The problem with this is, it pushes a current through the battery constantly, and that tends to shorten the life of lithium-ion batteries over time. You may get better immediate battery life off the charger, but you'll kill your battery quicker. Come months from now, your battery life isn't going to be what it should, whether you notice it or not.
If you want to minimize the discharge, you can take a couple safer steps:
- Condition your battery. Charge it to a true 100%. This will mean turning the phone off and on a few times while it's on the charger to make sure it's actually at 100%. Then completely discharge it until the phone cannot turn back on. Do this a couple times in a row, and repeat every month or so. This conditions your li-ion battery's internal charging memory so it knows its true charge potential.
- Charge your phone while it's off. It won't drain nearly as much battery this way, so when you're ready to take it off the charger it'll be much fresher.
- Avoid prolonged charging and continuous charging, because it can confuse the li-ion's internal charging memory. Rather than re-charging it when it hits 60%, let it drain as low as possible before you bother recharging it. Bursts of short charges don't harm the battery, but they make it "forget" how much it can be charged.
In short, SBC kernels are bad for your battery.
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Also, Savaged-Zen 1.0.1 BFS no-SBC has been the best kernel I've found for the Evo 4G. Granted I haven't had this thing that long and there may be another gem lying around somewhere, but given the popularity of SZ, I doubt it. It's a very good, smooth kernel. It's giving me the best performance of what I've tried (most of the popular ones).
As for CFS vs BFS, flip a coin. Some will swear CFS is smoother, others will swear BFS is supposed to be smoother. BFS gives me more responsiveness personally, but I think it mostly depends on your workload. I keep scarcely-used tasks killed and I don't use widgets, so the lack of many processes may be what makes BFS better for me. Try both and see which feels smoother in daily use.
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I just wanna correct this misconception because it led me astray and it took a good amount of research to realize this was wrong.
All kernels will charge the phone to 100%. That's not an issue. What happens is, once they are charged to 100%, they start draining battery again, and coupled with the fact that li-ions inherently lose charge over time, and the fact that most people haven't conditioned their battery's memory by properly charging it, by the time you pull your phone off the charger it's already lost that 10% (give or take).
Trickle charging hopes to fix this by "trickling" a small charge into the battery constantly once it hits 100%, to compensate for discharge, so that it stays at 100%. The problem with this is, it pushes a current through the battery constantly, and that tends to shorten the life of lithium-ion batteries over time. You may get better immediate battery life off the charger, but you'll kill your battery quicker. Come months from now, your battery life isn't going to be what it should, whether you notice it or not.
If you want to minimize the discharge, you can take a couple safer steps:
- Condition your battery. Charge it to a true 100%. This will mean turning the phone off and on a few times while it's on the charger to make sure it's actually at 100%. Then completely discharge it until the phone cannot turn back on. Do this a couple times in a row, and repeat every month or so. This conditions your li-ion battery's internal charging memory so it knows its true charge potential.
- Charge your phone while it's off. It won't drain nearly as much battery this way, so when you're ready to take it off the charger it'll be much fresher.
- Avoid prolonged charging and continuous charging, because it can confuse the li-ion's internal charging memory. Rather than re-charging it when it hits 60%, let it drain as low as possible before you bother recharging it. Bursts of short charges don't harm the battery, but they make it "forget" how much it can be charged.
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What he said
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
Thanks for all the info! I'm just gonna try SBC for a month then try non SBC for a month and see witch I would prefer better. Also for the Zen kernels do they break anything that's not already working? And would they give better 3d performance then the tiamats kernel?
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Thanks for all the info! I'm just gonna try SBC for a month then try non SBC for a month and see witch I would prefer better. Also for the Zen kernels do they break anything that's not already working? And would they give better 3d performance then the tiamats kernel?
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That's a great plan man. I visited the savage zen kernel thread earlier and some are complaing about their newest build causing charging issues or something along with 100% wake time idk. If you give it a shot use their 1.0.0 instead of the 1.0.1. Just give the kernels about a week and see how well they hold up. Its mainly about personal preference(sbc or non sbc) I'm actually testing the tiamat sbc but I was previously on savage zen. I like to give all kernels a chance(1 or 2 weeks) to see how well my phone performs with them.
Ok well ill just wait till Friday to install a new one then and see how the Zen works out
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I think this havent been discuss.. my question is: what do you guys do to keep your battery thru the whole day? I have seen people said that they keep their phone alive for at least a 1.5 or 2 days????
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1107963 said:
I think this havent been discuss.. my question is: what do you guys do to keep your battery thru the whole day? I have seen people said that they keep their phone alive for at least a 1.5 or 2 days????
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There are several threads on this topic. Here is a current and popular one: How Do You Charge Your DInc?
Yeah but thats on charging it.. not wat u do to keep it.. like i read in another forum that some people disable gps and stuff like that... thats what i mean.. and thank you for ur post!!
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1107963 said:
Yeah but thats on charging it.. not wat u do to keep it.. like i read in another forum that some people disable gps and stuff like that... thats what i mean.. and thank you for ur post!!
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No problem for the link. There are many ways to help save battery. I for one turn off GPS, Bluetooth, and mobile data when I'm not using them. I use AOSP Roms mostly because they give me better battery life, I use Incredikernel because it regulates how my battery works more efficiently, and I also have an extended battery. Wiping your battery stats every once in a while can help you prolong your battery life as well.
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optimized sense with the stock kernel will warrant some seriously nice battery life. thats how I maintain mine.
Depends on what I do, through a normal day (texting, few short calls, 30 minutes of music streaming, less than 5 minutes of GPS) it'll last ~1.5-2 days with CM7 nightlies and chad's incredikernel - underclocked 128MIN - ~800max
But if I use GPS all day, which I sometimes do- it'll drop 50% after 4-5 hours of use (this means screen-on, GPS running, also uses 3G data for maps) and I'll usually need to plug it in before the day ends.
I have a 1900mAh battery that fits in the stock case, so this isn't what I get on the stock 1300mAh battery.
If you can't last it through the day it usually means that you are a very heavy user (you like browsing the web all the time, streaming music, texting, watching videos) OR you have a setup that likes to eat your battery.
I need two of my 3 batteries to make it through one day. I use juice defender, and when I stream pandora at work I turn it off cause it interferes. I always have a charger handy too
Please lengthen your message to at least 10 charters
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people would like say how ugly my phone was in public.
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This made me me lol!
I actually didn't know that the 2150 was smaller than the 3500. That thing is a beast, my friend uses one and his phone is at least twice as thick as mine.
If you are rooted, you can update the radio, I've noticed much better performance out of the updates cause they seem to manage gps and wireless better. The radio update turn off wireless if you are out of range and turn off gps if no app is using it.
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I actually didn't know that the 2150 was smaller than the 3500. That thing is a beast, my friend uses one and his phone is at least twice as thick as mine.
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yeah but you have to take into account how slim the stock incredible is. Without any case and with only the stock battery it's too thin (for me at least). Hard to hold onto the sides and I accidentally press the volume buttons often. I've also dropped it 3 times with that setup.
With a case it's great and with the 2150 it was great, loved both setups but I'm liking the new style now with the 1900 and case so that's where I'm sticking at.
Does wiping the battery stats help the battery life? Or is it just so the phone better understands how much battery is left?
Stock battery has always worked best for me.. I also have the seido 1750 mah as well as some chinese versions of 1500 mah.. I use them as backups.. I'm currently using miui as my rom and the battery life is great... I usually get about 24hrs before i'm down to 20%. No way I would make the whole day on previous roms..
I take cues from battery university. Basically, don't let the battery go below 20% shallow charge /discharge
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The kernel your running makes a huge difference in battery life. Been using Ziggy's BFS for quite some time now with the Seido 1750. Gets me though the whole day
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