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ENG S-off & RADIO S-off

I'm just confused... I'm new to Android and i was just wondering if ENG S-off is the same as Radio S-off... my phone is currently Rooted and have ENG S-off do i need to the One click radio S-off? -noob- here

I am with the same condition as you and asked a similar question here and here is the answer :
jkoljo said:
Yes that is right, you need to use this tool (or script methods in forum) if you want to flash using kernel update utility.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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So for Kernel flashing or similar issues, yes we need extra ENG S-Off which I would recommed you to use the tool on the link above If you are a newbie like me.

eozen81 said:
I am with the same condition as you and asked a similar question here and here is the answer :
So for Kernel flashing or similar issues, yes we need extra ENG S-Off which I would recommed you to use the tool on the link above If you are a newbie like me.
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I think you meant to say we need the extra radio s-off, not eng s-off. Just to avoid any confusion.

I´ve got the same problem. I don´t realy know the difference between ENG S-Off and SHIP S-Off.
I have have ROOT and ENG S-Off, but after I run Easy-RADIO-S-Off everythimg is the same like before.
Is there maybe another way to get Radio-S-Off?
For my ENG S-Off, I´ve made a step by step way with the terminal Emulator.
I need your Help

If you do Radio S-OFF on top of ENG S-OFF, nothing else is supposed to change but bootloader>system info CID. If you did full Radio S-OFF, which contains SuperCID and SimUnlock, the CID should be 11111111.
The differences of both S-OFFs:
- Radio S-OFF is more permanent, safer
- ENG S-OFF allows to use fastboot commands, such as fastboot flash radio
- Radio S-OFF (with SuperCID) allows downgrading from anything, it disables device version checking. If HTC has "banned" a certain downgrade from one version to the other, Radio S-OFF allows it.

@jkoljo
thx for your reply
I still have root and ENG S-Off. How can I get Radio S-Off and SuperCID too?
I´ve searched in the forum up and down. It seems that the Easy-Radio-S-Off Tool doesn´t work... ? Do you have another way for me?

Didn't the CID change (bootloader system info)? Because nothing else is supposed to change in the bootloader after you run the tool. Check Radio S-OFF tool troubleshooting. There is also a manual method posted by Apache, which uses older unlock code version than my tool.

jkoljo said:
If you do Radio S-OFF on top of ENG S-OFF, nothing else is supposed to change but bootloader>system info CID. If you did full Radio S-OFF, which contains SuperCID and SimUnlock, the CID should be 11111111.
The differences of both S-OFFs:
- Radio S-OFF is more permanent, safer
- ENG S-OFF allows to use fastboot commands, such as fastboot flash radio
- Radio S-OFF (with SuperCID) allows downgrading from anything, it disables device version checking. If HTC has "banned" a certain downgrade from one version to the other, Radio S-OFF allows it.
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this explains everything... thnx so much for the reply... mind my ignorance... xD

SEW580 said:
@jkoljo
thx for your reply
I still have root and ENG S-Off. How can I get Radio S-Off and SuperCID too?
I´ve searched in the forum up and down. It seems that the Easy-Radio-S-Off Tool doesn´t work... ? Do you have another way for me?
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Hi SEW580,
I had the same problem, apeared to be the wrong option/choice I made when I used te tool. you have to use the FIRST option ("Radio S-OFF, Super-CID an Sim Unlock"), this worked for me.
Let me know if it also did for you...
Jan

I would 100% get radio s-off. That way if Htc screw you over with an update which breaks root you aren't stranded.

jverven said:
Hi SEW580,
I had the same problem, apeared to be the wrong option/choice I made when I used te tool. you have to use the FIRST option ("Radio S-OFF, Super-CID an Sim Unlock"), this worked for me.
Let me know if it also did for you...
Jan
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The Tool is great, but it doesn´t work at mine. I tryed every option from first to last. I´ve got SU, Root and ENG S-OFF. I did everything whats needed. I run the Tool, it asked for permission, I confirm, it finished succesful, but nothing changes - no Radio S-Off or SuperCID :-(

Please try the 2.2 version, it tells you what went wrong.
By the way if you have a new radio in your phone, you have to downgrade first before running the tool.

jkoljo said:
Please try the 2.2 version, it tells you what went wrong.
By the way if you have a new radio in your phone, you have to downgrade first before running the tool.
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Yeah, its done. After i´ve downgraded the RADIO, I used Version 2.2 and it works.
I´´m the proud Owner of a SuperCID

cool.....................

How do I know if I have ENG or Radio S-Off??

I have to be honest, I followed a fairly technical guide to root my DHD and although I got the gist of it, I'm not sure if it left me with just ENG S-Off or Radio S-Off as well.
Is there a way to check for both?
Cheers.

You can check in bootloader it will say if you are eng off or not and if your cid is 1111111111 your radio s off too
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

- hold power button and select reboot then ok
- after hitting ok, wait 1 sec then press and hold power + vol down
- the phone will enter bootloader mode
at the very 1st line it should say ENG S-OFF
for RADIO S-OFF
- press vol down until you get more info
- if you see CID11111 that means you have RADIO S-OFF
else you don't

Excellent, thanks very much to both of you..........

Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?

Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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That is only radio s-off.i believe
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Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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Indeed that is radio s-off.
Hboot s-off looks like "ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
The ENG stands for engineering.

Thanks guys. It's a bit confusing.
I'm gonna flash a new radio today. Do I only need radio s-off or do i need eng -s-off too?
If so, i guess you can apply it after you've radio s-off'ed?
Edit: So now I used the s-off easy one click tool.
Now I have ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
Do I still have the radio s-off?
As joliko stated you can have both. How does that work anyway?

Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.

Yoshi_523 said:
Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.
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actually you have more options with eng-s off as you can use fastboot commands. were if you just only had radio-s off you can't use fastboot but your right in the fact that you won't lose s-off were eng s-off is just the hboot been patched an so flashing new firmware with upgraded hboot you will lose the sercurity been off.

how do i know if I am ENG or Radio S-OFF
BOOTLOADER says:
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
RADIO - 3805.04.03.22_M
eMMC-boot
what does that mean?
I am planning to change my radio to be compatible with ARHD 1.1.2

radio s-off but no eng hboot
Sent out of my Free Candy Van.

Before, after I had used Easy Eng S-Off Tool, I had Ship S-Off. After that I found out I can't flash splash img using fast boot, I ran the tool again and I had now Eng S-Off.
But in the system info, the CID is not 111111.
Does that means I had lost my Radio S-Off?
I'm now on CyanogenMod7 RC-1 with Eng S-Off.
I just now tried this One click Radio S-OFF (windows recognized well my DHD in Device Manager), but it said "Unknown Error, probably connections" (usb cable works fine).
Edit: I restored the backed-up rooted 1.32 and do Radio S-Off. Things ran smooth. Now I have both Eng S-Off and CID 11111.
And by doing so I realized how big Sense Roms are. Clean backed-up rooted Sense 1.32 = 525MB. TB Fusion 3d (Sense 2.1 + 3.0) with some apps (not big): 765 MB. Clean MIUI 1.7.5 = 232 MB. CM7 RC1 with many apps = 457 MB.

[Q] Unsure as to whether Radio S-Off confirmed

Basically, I have rooted my Desire HD, and turned ENG S-Off. I now want to turn Radio S-Off.
I have used Easy Radio Tool, and it confirmed the process with SuperCID and Unlock.
However, if I go to Bootloader, it says "ACE PVT ENG S-OFF" but in the System Info it confirms SuperCID by showing "CID-11111111"
I just want to know if I am able to flash the radio yet, or if something has gone wrong?
Thanks,

Sorry, found the answer here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889390
I ran Radio S-OFF on top of ENG S-OFF and nothing was meant to change apart from the SuperCID.

Can't flash radio

Hi everyone,
I'm using leedroid rom and it's very nice of him to produce such an excellent rom.
After flashing rom, I continued to flash "radio 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2" as he recommended.
I just wondered how to flash this radio version.
Please help!

Head to my site, into Radios, then Radio Flasher Packaged. You will see that radio version.
Download that, unzip & run. It will guide you through the whole process.

I would like to say thank you to what you have provided.
I followed your steps then checked my radio version on Bootloader screen. The results are as follow:
"ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.85.0007
........
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M"
That means Radio version is still the same.
someone says that I have to do the two work simultaneously: eng S-Off and Ship S-Off.
What exactly do I have to do?

Search for 'one click eng s-off' and use the tool
Once thats done you'll be able to flash a new radio via fastboot

Also, don't post your question twice.
Use the search function too. If you did, you'd know you had to have S-OFF.
Closed.

[Q] S-On Procedure Help

I want to S-On my DHD. I couldnt find any thread in the devolopment forum for it. It was tmobile branded phone until yesterday, then i downgraded it using glod card to 1.32 and then the s-off and then custom ROMS. But now I am unable to find any thread relating to S-onn the device.
please direct me in right direction.
Thanks

1) You should find the right ruu for your device, run it to restore the system and hboot (I think the Eng S-Off will be S-On after this)
2) You run the tool for Radio S-Off again, and check Radio S-On. And run the process. I'm not sure about the CID option in the tool.
Then you will be good.

Use this tool for easy s-on. Read instructions first.