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i would like to know which benefits i would get if i root my phone
why should i do it or why not
an if it makes sense, were can i find a howto
thx
Are you serious mate? Its a sticky at the absolute top in the Desire Android Development Forum. Maybe you browse around a bit next time (or use the search) before opening a new thread (about the 1 Mio'th one about this topic)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Rooting gives you the ability to flash custom roms, these are generally built ontop of released or customized version of stock roms, this means you don't have to wait for a feature to be sent to your phone over the over the air upgrades, it also means you can customize your phone fully,I.e. custom icons down to the base level stuff like fonts and batery icons you can also use apps that require escalated permissions such as the terminal app and things like screenshots, cache cleaning.
Reasons not to root, warranty you loose it.
Bricking if you mess up you can potentially have a nice peice of plastic that does nothing.
Reliability the quality of custom roms has come along dramatically since the first rom but you are after all flashing some one else's project these roms are very well done and coded to a professional level but they simple do not nave the quality testing and reliability of the stock roms as these are often personal projects.
And guides on how to are frequent on here as are the reason to and not to root, look above.
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so if i want to install a custom Android ROM (2.2 Froyo) with Sense i must root my phone...
and the other thing is, to remove some apps i don't need.... like stocks
but if i'm happy as it is there is no need?
well thx for the info
think I'll get to know my cell phone first then a little
almost have it for 3 weeks now =)
just to be able to load a rom without the sense and worth it!
Try launcher pro in the market and betterbut and I think you will be happy unless you want wireless tether and the other benefits, most sense users don't like the UI that's all.
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the launcher of sense is not very bad.
the really bad are the internal apps: calendar, contacts...
i root and koad a non sense rom, and i have a nexus but without the hardware nexus bugs
Hi guys I'm new to android... coming from an iPhone. I just want to know why some people hate sense UI? I just had my Desire for 1 week so I don't have an idea why some people prefer stock android instead of the sense UI. For me I think the sense UI is nice. Can you guys enlighten me. TIA!
I think you will find that most Desire users like Sense, but in a "technical" community such as this you will find a reasonable proportion of people who prefer stock and/or other launchers.
Personally, I think Sense improves the Android user experience and that's a good thing. I had stock on my G1 (obviously), and got a Hero (which has Sense). If I'd wanted a stock experience, I would've bought a Nexus One over the Desire, but I think Sense is great and I prefer the Desires hardware anyway.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi guys I'm new to android... coming from an iPhone. I just want to know why some people hate sense UI? I just had my Desire for 1 week so I don't have an idea why some people prefer stock android instead of the sense UI. For me I think the sense UI is nice. Can you guys enlighten me. TIA!
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Welcome to Android. Nice to see you've broken the shackles of Apple.
I'm not sure why to be honest. Sense, in my opinion, makes the Android experience very smooth and feels nicely polished. There are more widgets, home screens etc...
I can only speculate that people like to be different and maybe feel that Sense somehow "weighs down" the phone with unnecessary baggage. At least on the older slower devices maybe.
Given that you can set the phone to launch the stock Android experience without Sense anyway, I'd say it's a mystery why anyone would be anti-Sense.
Those people do prefer life without it, I too would love to know your rationale.
Cheers,
HRH
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Thanks for the welcome. I changed my phone to android cause the last three previous phone I had was iPhone 2G, 3G, and 3Gs and I just had it with Apple and their iTree . With all the limitation, the jailbreaking, the iTunes crap... and add all that to the new iPhone 4 antennagate problem and you feel like you just wanna kick the crap out Steve Jobs face. hehehehe
Anyway, I think maybe you guys are right... maybe It's because of some older HTC phones that are not quite on par with the Desire specs that makes their sense UI experience a little bit problematic. I've been playing with my Desire since I got it non-stop (except when I'm at work of course) and I like the sense UI very much with all those additional widget and additional option from HTC. I don't see any lagging or any problematic situation caused by the UI itself... and it's because of the powerful specs of the Desire itself.
Well, if anybody else has a better idea on why... based on their experience and all. Give us some feedback.
Cheers guys!
Oh and by the way, I'm loving my new HTC Desire... I just wish the rumored HTC Desire HD is available already cause I wanted to get a bigger screen for browsing. But the Desire now is amazing... what more when the new Desire HD is available. But what the heck... as Steve Jobs said "No one is going to buy those big screen" right? (sarcasm). hehehehe
Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?
1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month
Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.
And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!
You mean battery life not good?
Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.
yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!
Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.
time to root and install some custom ROMS!!
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They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..
One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon
I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.
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I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain
So here's the plan:
I am getting the Sensation once it's rooted and price is 600$ and less, so I guess July?
In the waiting period I want to have fun with an htc device with plenty of roms, I still don't know if I get a Desire or DHD, so if you can help me:
-Which one has a louder speaker for ringtones?
-Better screen under sunlight?
-Overall quality/design
-Battery life?
I am afraid of the DHD weight while it's just 30g more
Also buying it will cost 100$ more but reselling in 2 month?
The DHD has the better screen, but lower battery life. But with a costume kernel you can safe battery. I have a Desire and I'm not dissapointed. But why can't you wait until august?
Btw: I think the DHD has louder speakers...
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The DHD has the better scKreen, but lower battery life.
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Bigger doesn't actually mean better. DHD has the same SLCD screen as Desire packed with the same resolution on 0.5" larger screen, which gives greater dot pitch which is never a good thing in the terms of image quality.
For the battery life I would consider them roughly equal, despite the larger screen DHD has more energy efficient hardware.
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surely the fact you can pick up a Desire cheaper is better in the short term?
although waiting would be the best option imo
Already sold the Arc!
I am going to the mobile shop after lunch, I will see if the DHD is too big and heavy or not, if it's too much for me I will pick a Desire, as simple as that
I have a slight preference for DHD because I am afraid the Desire will be a sort of return to my old device (N1) so perhaps little boring while the DHD has some upgraded hardwares and Sense 3.0 weather rom
Even for 1.5/2 months
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Already sold the Arc!
I am going to the mobile shop after lunch, I will see if the DHD is too big and heavy or not, if it's too much for me I will pick a Desire, as simple as that
I have a slight preference for DHD because I am afraid the Desire will be a sort of return to my old device (N1) so perhaps little boring while the DHD has some upgraded hardwares and Sense 3.0 weather rom
Even for 1.5/2 months
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I'd choose none of those lol...if you really can't wait i'd recommend a nexus s, dhd has a decent cpu but the gpu still is quite suckish even compared to the one the sgs packs.
Btw, looks like the sgs II will own the sensation big time, plus it has unlocked bootloader and it has been rooted already...
I got the desire and the DHD and I have to say desire is better to use cos you can in fact use it with one hand. 0.6 inches really makes a difference.
The screen on dhd just looks like a stretched desire to me. I installed the DHD rom on my desire and a 32 gig card with a 4 gig ext and basically, no issues whatsoever.
so i sold my dhd and got an ipod touch and glued it to the back of my desire!
If it is only for waiting..Desire should be your solution.
Desire is still a good phone and it is cheap especially the second handed ones.....and..who knows you can still found the old one with AMOLED....
Or the newer white one...
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what about a Desire S?
raheeljessa;
...The screen on dhd just looks like a stretched desire to me. I installed the DHD rom on my desire and a 32 gig card with a 4 gig ext and basically said:
which ROM is it? where can I find detailed instructions to do that?
coz that's exactly what I want to do with my Desire (as I hv to wait appr 1 year until my contract expires).
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iLHaNroID said:
which ROM is it? where can I find detailed instructions to do that?
coz that's exactly what I want to do with my Desire (as I hv to wait appr 1 year until my contract expires).
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There are plenty of ROMs such as InsertCoin, RCmixHD, etc.
Instruction? Just like any other custom ROMs.
I recommend InsertCoin Data2Ext or InsertCoin Data++.
I am using InsertCoin Data2Ext and still not tempted to try others at the moment, it is the best I have till now ('ve tried LeeDroids, MIUI, RCmixHD, etc.)
I am now waiting an 100% working, relatively bug-free, and stable Android 2.3 new-Sense ROM.
One great advantage of the DHD is that HTC started the rollout for official Gingerbread for the DHD!
Bought a DHD!
I don't regret a sec
Great roms for that great device, I am getting 2200 pts in quadrant when I had 1400 max with Nexus one
ill sell u my htc desire unlocked if u want
Hello
Im a proud owner of DesireZ, got it from my provider for free, and I could not possibly think of a better phone than this. On stock clock - it runs high graphic games, and it runs smooth. I really cant imagine what would someone do with announced Exynos 2Ghz on SGS3, apart from resolution requirements. But than again, everything above ~250ppi is just retarded, by my standards. This HTC phone is perfect for me.
so, my question is -
1. need to replace stock rom with something good
2. need fully working phone (camera also, so no ICS for me, I guess )
3. need info on Sense version that doesnt cause bugs and problems, cause I have read lots of topics with people complaining. (lagging after couple of hours, need restart and so on)
4. CM, or ICS, or some pre-tunned Gingerbread .. ?
As I have done this before with some similar devices, please link the following to me:
1. root instructions
2. backup instructions
3. best OS by my requirements (smoothness, no bugs, and pre-installed OC software are priority)
and that's it
Im sorry in advance, cause there will surely be someone that says - use search, but Im making it like this cause regular visitors of site can find that with much more ease than I could. Appreciate help in advance.
Welcome to the DZ/G2 forums!
The procedure of using gfree to root and carrier unlock your DZ is in my signature. Depending on your current installed version of ROM, you may or may not have to downgrade your phone.
The most stable versions of ROMs that I have personally tried are the following.
Virtuous Sense: The closest stock DZ ROM you can get with optimizations and tweaks. It's been debloated of carrier crap and has an OC kernel up to 1.5GHz if I am not mistaken. The best GB Sense experience you can get IMO.
Virtuous G-Lite: The closest stock G2 ROM you can get with optimizations and tweaks. Debloated of T-Mobile's carrier crap and also OC-able to about 1.5GHz. Very light weight and able to go out 2-3 days on the stock battery on a single charge depending on usage. I would, however, recommend ditching LauncherPRO in favor of GOLauncherEX though.
Thanks man!
It is not carrier locked, cause supply stock of Serbian Telekom was only few and they didnt bother, it is a plain simple out-of-the-factory Desire Z.
If I choose G-lite, can I flash my regular DesireZ, are there limitations between G2/DZ .. ?
Does OC-ing to, lets say - 1.2Ghz shorten battery life ?
I like this G-lite, as I am aware of the fact that Android generally drains much more than other OSes, as I had HTC Blackstone. 4 days on WM6.5, 1 day on Android.
If you want a Sense 3.5 ROM, but a bit refreshed, I've been using Android Revolution for a few days and it's amazingly smooth compared to the other 3.5 ones.
I would HIGHLY recommend G2 Slim. It's the latest t-mobile release of gingerbread for the G2, but it has nearly everything unnecessary removed and it has the best battery life out of ALL the ROMs on our devices.
It's a very smooth ROM with all features working, it is a bit basic but there's nothing you can't really fix with apps from the market. It's very very fast, has ridiculous amounts of free RAM, it's great with multitasking and it's even very quick when it comes to app performance.
Virtuous G-Lite is basically the same as G2 Slim, except it's much faster. It seems like the extra speed of G-Lite comes at the cost of battery life though. That said, the battery life on both of those ROMs is amazing, so you can't go wrong with either of them.
Otherwise, if you're looking for something different and a little bit fun, try out the latest gingerbread release of MIUI . You will fall in love with the theming abilities of that ROM.
Get miui, looks good, and just works. ... MIUI Android (GB)
I would highly recommend AOSP, be it G2Slim or EliteMod.
Sense and MIUI can be fun to play with, but they're just toys IMO and like to eat your RAM and battery life. They do each offer some pretty kickin' features that AOSP doesn't but I still prefer the base experience as it offers the most stability, battery-life, and overall smoothness.
Happy to hear you like the phone, I'm going on a year and a month now and I still love it! I have nothing but praises for this thing, the flash even almost survived me! But alas I have to replace it after one too many accidental hits of the Torch quick setting.
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I would highly recommend AOSP, be it G2Slim or EliteMod.
Sense and MIUI can be fun to play with, but they're just toys IMO and like to eat your RAM and battery life. They do each offer some pretty kickin' features that AOSP doesn't but I still prefer the base experience as it offers the most stability, battery-life, and overall smoothness.
Happy to hear you like the phone, I'm going on a year and a month now and I still love it! I have nothing but praises for this thing, the flash even almost survived me! But alas I have to replace it after one too many accidental hits of the Torch quick setting.
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I agree with this, G2 Slim and Virtuous G-lite are both fantastic AOSP ROMs that you should try out.
I like how you all automatically assume that I know the "AOSP" abreviation, but google helped me on that one
played last night with all OS-es you recommended, and in the process I made a routine with flashing so now I know what im doing, and this is hard - in terms of what to choose It is now that I actually see the potential of this phone. XDA support for this device is just awesome, one of the most supported devices generally.
@buxtahuda - had a lots of smartphones before this one, all lost due to failures:
HD2 - was crappy in terms of assemble, got loose and had really bad plastic. When I opened it it was clear that HTC assembly was not good at that time
iPhone 3g - after 6 months of usage without protection and pocket time, it looked like it had a fight with Optimus Prime.
SGS1 - fell from 2 feet and the scene looked like I dropped i light bulb - into 100 pieces. even Cornig Gorilla glass that has only one flaw - side pressure, managed to crack
DesireZ is on a whole another level. I actually managed to drop it 5th day of usage because I replaced bundle headphones (that's the only thing that sucks) and didnt have cable-control, and trying to change a song while running on high-cardio excercise (weight loss process). It fell down also having momentum cause of running and it tubmled for 4-5 meters:
still cant find where are the scratches. really, I placed it under a magnifying glass and I cant find where are the scratches from f'in concrete! awesome materials and assembly by HTC
Rooting your phone, getting S-OFF to install other Roms
Hello and have fun with your Desire Z!
Full instructions for HTC Desire Z and T-Mobile G2 Root and FULL S-OFF can be found on http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
When you need support for getting S-OFF you can join the IRC channel #G2ROOT on freenode. Browser access on webchat.freenode.net . After joining the IRC webchat you can change to channel #G2ROOT using the command "/join #G2ROOT".
My favorite ROMs for the HTC Desire Z are:
* Virtuous Affinity 2.05: A little bit slow, but great experience
* Virtuous G-Lite 2.0.1: Very fast, some special software might have issues
* CyanogenMod 7.1: Great overall ROM, respectable speed and stable.
Try the ROMs and decide for yourself!
For backing up applications I recommend using Titanium Backup (Pro), for backing up your system you can use ClockworkRecovery and RomManager.
When you want to install more than one ROM on your phone at the same time then try BootManager (from Google Play). Might not work with all ROMs but is really good to try things!
Good Luck.
Congrats on your new phone! The Desire Z is starting to show its age, but considering the developer base and the fact that you got it for free, I'd say you got a pretty good deal.
Personally, I like MIUI and CyanogenMod 7. CM7 is a classic, and everyone loves it for the degree to which it preserves stock Android, while adding on a few improvements here and there. MIUI, on the other hand, gives you a complete re-imagining of the Android interface, and it can be great to use. I find myself alternating between the two every couple months, actually. That's the beauty of the Desire Z, though: the widespread developer support means you get that kind of flexibility!
I agree that Cyanogenmod 7 is fantastic but for me, i could NEVER eliminate the constant battery drain issues that i had with it no matter what. I'd still recommend it to newcomers but i think simpler ROMs like G-lite or G2 Slim are much better.
I generally like to have a clean and consistent looking UI on any ROM that i use and CM7's styling seemed to always take a way from the stock gingerbread feel that i was looking for. That's my opinion.
Right now, i'm using Virtuous G-lite and now i know what it's like to have a really really fast phone xD.
As far as Sense ROMs go, my experience showed me that Virtuous Affinity 2.05.0 was the fastest and most stable out of all the Sense 3.* ROMs.
After many tries, I decided to stay on G-lite mainly cause of the battery, but I would also like to give a chance to Virtuous Sense, cause it seemed (for a hour of usage) like a pretty decent ROM.
MIUI reppeled me with the iPhony look, that's sometnig I want to avoid in the future, even if it has only a fraction to do with rotten Apple.
The best option would be, if anyone ever creates it, ICS based system with the "strip-down" settings like G-lite. that I would like very much
Anyways, this phone is Awesome. I did not have a hype like this with any other phone, and as I stated, I had them all shortly after release (HD2, SGS1, iPhone 3G). The only thing that's bothering me is metal back-cover which I guess will be all bumpy in the future (I hate putting my phone in covers and skins) But I guess I could recreate it out of metal, since I am good with power tools and fine cutting of stuff, and like to do that kind of projects
What's up fellas?
I'm currently using Sony Ericsson Arc S and to be honest, I'm not happy with it.... I put my phone on sale and I got an offer. Someone wants to exchange his Desire HD to my Arc. The hardware is pretty identical, processor(Arc has 1.4GHz Snappy, but basically it's just factory clocked 1GHz one). Both are about the same price when new.
Does this phone have something really worth... Desiring?
DHD has a lot more roms than Arc, and it's something I like.
Thanks!
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The DHD is an amazing phone with a lot of awesome, stable ROMs for it. Including ICS. But it's slowly becoming a legacy device. Many of the devs who used to make the best ROMs a few months back have now moved on to other devices. Mainly HTC One X and One S. In terms of Gingerbread ROM development, the DHD has reached a state where many of the GB ROMs available for it are in a very stable state, and there's not much to be done with them anymore in terms of bug fixes and new features. The DHD will receive one last round of development when the official ICS upgrade (announced by HTC) is released, which will help mainly to fix the camcorder in all the existing ICS ROMs by providing the required driver. Right now one ROM still going great in terms of development is IceColdSandwich by LorD ClockaN, which is a the best ICS ROM for the DHD.
I'm basically telling you the scene with DHD development right now, so that you can make up your mind better. If you can manage to get a newer generation device in the next few months, then I'd suggest you hold off this trade and get a new device once for all. But if you have no plans of getting a new device, then I'd say trade. The DHD is an awesome device with a very strong build quality and great performance (depending on ROM and kernel used). Feels very solid in the hand. Though it received dreadful battery life reviews when it was launched, that hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. I can get 1+ day with light use and 8 hours with very heavy use. The processor can be overclocked to 2 GHz too (if required) depending on the kernel used. I'd prefer it over the Arc S any day.
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The DHD is an amazing phone with a lot of awesome, stable ROMs for it. Including ICS. But it's slowly becoming a legacy device. Many of the devs who used to make the best ROMs a few months back have now moved on to other devices. Mainly HTC One X and One S. In terms of Gingerbread ROM development, the DHD has reached a state where many of the GB ROMs available for it are in a very stable state, and there's not much to be done with them anymore in terms of bug fixes and new features. The DHD will receive one last round of development when the official ICS upgrade (announced by HTC) is released, which will help mainly to fix the camcorder in all the existing ICS ROMs by providing the required driver. Right now one ROM still going great in terms of development is IceColdSandwich by LorD ClockaN, which is a the best ICS ROM for the DHD.
I'm basically telling you the scene with DHD development right now, so that you can make up your mind better. If you can manage to get a newer generation device in the next few months, then I'd suggest you hold off this trade and get a new device once for all. But if you have no plans of getting a new device, then I'd say trade. The DHD is an awesome device with a very strong build quality and great performance (depending on ROM and kernel used). Feels very solid in the hand. Though it received dreadful battery life reviews when it was launched, that hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. I can get 1+ day with light use and 8 hours with very heavy use. The processor can be overclocked to 2 GHz too (if required) depending on the kernel used. I'd prefer it over the Arc S any day.
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Aye, overclock the DHD to 2 Ghz if you wanna FRY your phone, or if your lucky....just reduce the life of it by 90%.
With the mentioned ICS build....yeah, go for it, but don't exprect to be able to take pictures, take videos or read Sim card contacts etc etc.
HTC Desire, for me, using NON-ICS Roms has been AWESOME. Solid build, feels quality, fast etc...if I had a choice i.e. money wasn't object....I'd get the HTC One X...but still keep my Desire HD as a 2nd/backup phone, coz it's sooooo awesome and reliable.
Matt
Yeah, the thing is that Arc has dozens of roms, but it its always slow. I don't know why... I've read a lit of people telling how great Dhd is, and I'm pretty sure it beats Arc. I don't know, they're about the same price, do there's not much to lose... I'll go for it!
Thanks for in fo guys. I'll trade my Arc to Dhd. I'm gonna buy newer phone later.
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