Hey guys, long time lurker, first time posting. Ive had my Vibrant since mid-October 2010 and recently started having poor battery life (i have been using Nero v4 since late Dec. With no probs until recently.
I bought 2 aftermarket batteries from the same seller on eBay. They arrived new, once inserted in my phone and a stock vibrant on 2.1, they worked fine but as soon as you plugged the phones into the charger the phone just keeps rebooting. The phone becomes stuck on the "vibrant" screen until you turn it off.
My friend recently sold his Captivate and gave me his spare OEM battery and it works fine. I'm guessing these aftermarket batteries are junk, but i'm just wondering what the problem is with them?
The seller never responded to the dispute, so I got my money back and two crap batteries LOL.
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the batteries you got most likely have to be charged with an external charger
Homeless2 said:
the batteries you got most likely have to be charged with an external charger
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I was thinking the same thing! The battery worked fine in the phone, just not while plugged into the wall charger.
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I've gotten a battery from eBay and its just fine. Only thing is that even though its "extended", it still sorta drains quick.
Burner2K0 said:
I've gotten a battery from eBay and its just fine. Only thing is that even though its "extended", it still sorta drains quick.
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Did you drain it to 10% when you first got it, not plugging it into the charger?
I did that, and I've been streaming pandora on 3G (my data is gone lol) for about and hour and a half, and the stock battery would have gone from 100% to 85%, but this extended battery (2800mAh, but it says 3500mAh on the battery) has gone from 100% to 94%.
It depends really, drain it all the way, then re-charge it (wipe battery stats too, but I didn't and it runs great), and you should get improved battery life.
Longcat14 said:
Did you drain it to 10% when you first got it, not plugging it into the charger?
I did that, and I've been streaming pandora on 3G (my data is gone lol) for about and hour and a half, and the stock battery would have gone from 100% to 85%, but this extended battery (2800mAh, but it says 3500mAh on the battery) has gone from 100% to 94%.
It depends really, drain it all the way, then re-charge it (wipe battery stats too, but I didn't and it runs great), and you should get improved battery life.
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I've been told the opposite, not to drain it all the way but when you first get a extended battery let the phone charge 3-4 hours after your phone reads 100%. It worked for my 2800 mAH battery.
sahil04 said:
I've been told the opposite, not to drain it all the way but when you first get a extended battery let the phone charge 3-4 hours after your phone reads 100%. It worked for my 2800 mAH battery.
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I did it the way I said, and my battery lasts 2 days easily on normal usage, like texting, and other things (not including data, that kills the battery, no matter HOW big it is).
I guess you can do it both ways, and they both work.
I bought me a 3500mAh Battery from ebay and it works beautiful for me. I drain the battery till its completely dead then recharge it 2 hours after it hits 100% and it lasts me 2 days with normal use. Its an awsome battery
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I just received this in the mail yesterday, and I think that it's worth $30. The battery definitely lasts longer. I'm only on my first day of use, but have had the phone on with normal use and bluetooth on all day (9+ hours so far) and I'm at 60%. Had I remembered to turn off bluetooth this morning, it would have been closer to 70% left since the bt accounted for 21% of total battery usage.
Also worth noting... The wall charger seems to properly charge the battery. I drained my original 1500mah EVO battery down to 7% and then placed it in the charger. It charged for approximately 6 hours. Normally, when charging it from empty in the phone, it charged much faster. I'm not a battery expert, and I also could be mistaken, but I get the impression (from reading threads and using the phone and previously owning an iphone) that the HTC software is not properly charging the battery and that is contributing to the miserable battery life right out of the box. Obviously changing setting in the phone software help quite a bit, but I feel like this charger and battery setup help significantly. I'm going to throw the fully charged original battery in tomorrow, and see what kind of performance I get out of it. I'm betting it will be much improved.
Apparently I can't post links on my thread because I am a new user. Just search ebay for chichitec and check out there store. I'm not affiliated with these people in any way. I just happen to be pleased with their product and figured I should share this for any other users that are frustrated with battery life on their EVO.
I just got it (though from another seller).
Figured it was worth the $20 to see if a different battery can help my situation.
I'm at 24 hours up time 3 hours of awake time and still have 26% left. Plus I've got two fully charged spares. Battery problem solved.
Did you actually get red batteries?
They're not exactly the same with the HTC logo, but they are red.
What are the eBay item numbers you guys used?
This is from the same seller for one battery and the charger. He basically charges $10 for each item.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-EVO-4G-BATT...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4aa320f7db
And I am convinced that the poor EVO battery life (stock) has to do with using the phone to charge the battery. I charged the original HTC battery with the included charger and I am at exactly 40% battery remaining with 24:37 up time and 3:05 awake time.
So much better than before.
That's why people are using the method from the forum where they charge their battery 10 times to "condition" it. That definitely helped me, but using this external charger is even better.
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And I am convinced that the poor EVO battery life (stock) has to do with using the phone to charge the battery. I charged the original HTC battery with the included charger and I am at exactly 40% battery remaining with 24:37 up time and 3:05 awake time.
So much better than before.
That's why people are using the method from the forum where they charge their battery 10 times to "condition" it. That definitely helped me, but using this external charger is even better.
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Are all the people who brag about 24-31 hours battery time sitting with like 3 hours of actual up time for that period? if so no wonder i dont last any where near that i am usually done at 12 hours with about 6 hours up time.
I consider 3 hours over 24 hours to be very light usage just wondering if that is the reason why no matter what i do i ant get any where close to some of these peoples times.
I wasn't trying to brag. I was just happy to finally get what I consider to be a great improvement over my original battery life. I wish I had more time to use my phone that many hours in the day. Seeing that I don't, this setup works good for me. I know this isn't amazing battery life given my light usage, but so much better than stock out of the box. I haven't rooted yet, and I'm not very conservative with settings that drain the battery.
And to answer your question, yes, that's why your times are shorter, but it seems like you should be getting more. If I have a day where I get more up time, I'll post the numbers.
i just got this battery and did the initial 8hour charge... but im seeing that once i take it out of the plug, battery monitor says it starts at 100% and then after 15 minutes drops to 86%....
is this bad reading from the program? or did i get a defective battery?
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uget2seconds said:
i just got this battery and did the initial 8hour charge... but im seeing that once i take it out of the plug, battery monitor says it starts at 100% and then after 15 minutes drops to 86%....
is this bad reading from the program? or did i get a defective battery?
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Are you using an external battery charger or are you charging through your phone? I do not have one of these batteries but I'm under the impression that the EVO firmware will only allow a charge of 4.15v which would be far below the requirments of a 3500mAh battery.
If you have an external charger and that is what you are using.... I would say your battery is defective. Contact the manufacture for recommendations.
No, I am using the phone to charge....is this a hardware limitation or is there a patch for this?
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Have you wiped battery data via recivery?
Shouldnt matter but you might try
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uget2seconds said:
No, I am using the phone to charge....is this a hardware limitation or is there a patch for this?
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Seido website says to charge until your phone shows 100% then leave on the charger for 2-3 addtional hours.
Even then I would think an external battery charger would be the route to take to unleash the full potential of the 3500mAh battery.
Keep me posted because I was thinking of buying one of those. But if you have to remove the battery to fully charge it then that would be a deal breaker for me.
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Seido website says to charge until your phone shows 100% then leave on the charger for 2-3 addtional hours.
Even then I would think an external battery charger would be the route to take to unleash the full potential of the 3500mAh battery.
Keep me posted because I was thinking of buying one of those. But if you have to remove the battery to fully charge it then that would be a deal breaker for me.
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I didn't have to use an external charger. The first charge I let go overnight. After 4-5 charge cycles the percentage drop was much more normal for that first 15 minutes, and of course after that the battery lasts forever at idle. I generally get 10-15 hours of heavy use (couple hours of streaming movies/music, texts, websurfing, some video conferencing, that kinda stuff), 20-30 moderate, and 40 with minimal usage.
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i just got this battery and did the initial 8hour charge... but im seeing that once i take it out of the plug, battery monitor says it starts at 100% and then after 15 minutes drops to 86%....
is this bad reading from the program? or did i get a defective battery?
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The Evo cant charge this battery properly. The only way to get a proper charge is in a wall charger. Don't get me started. Look in the other 3500 thread for all you seek.
holy flying ducks!!!!! you guys dont read/search
there is an entire thread (266 replies) on this battery (infact, a few threads RIGHT below this one)....VERY lengthy too... reading and searching is fundamental folks!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736273
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in order to get full charge FROM any battery related to the evo, you will have to remove from phone.... something in the evo whether it be software or hardware doesnt allow us to charge more than 1500 (really 1400 +/- mah) back into the battery. Dont ask me why but it just is that way...sucks i know
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I didn't have to use an external charger. The first charge I let go overnight. After 4-5 charge cycles the percentage drop was much more normal for that first 15 minutes, and of course after that the battery lasts forever at idle. I generally get 10-15 hours of heavy use (couple hours of streaming movies/music, texts, websurfing, some video conferencing, that kinda stuff), 20-30 moderate, and 40 with minimal usage.
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you're actually cheating yourself and making your phone bulkier for no reason at all. WHile that 10-15 hours of heavy usage may be good...... if you actually think about the charging scheme.... you can do the same thing on the 1500 mah battery LOL
so while you THINK you are charging the battery after your light turns green on your phone, you are not. Your phone thinks the battery is still the 1500 mah battery so that is all it is charging. (yea... you got a bulkier phone and those other 1500mah arent being used/charged #fail)
I know so, cuz you said your battery percentage drops for the first 15 minutes.... with my seidio 3500 mah fully charged into the wall.... i leave the screen on for at least an hour and my battery is still a full 98% if not 99%
wall charger makes a world of difference, talking night and day.
im on my phone ALOT... i keep wifi and everything else on... with a wall charged battery, i see an easy 24 hours + !!!!! Sometimes i say to myself "why wont this damn thing die!!!!!!!!!!!!" no bull lol
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goodelyfe said:
holy flying ducks!!!!! you guys dont read/search
there is an entire thread (266 replies) on this battery (infact, a few threads RIGHT below this one)....VERY lengthy too... reading and searching is fundamental folks!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736273
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in order to get full charge FROM any battery related to the evo, you will have to remove from phone.... something in the evo whether it be software or hardware doesnt allow us to charge more than 1500 (really 1400 +/- mah) back into the battery. Dont ask me why but it just is that way...sucks i know
you're actually cheating yourself and making your phone bulkier for no reason at all. WHile that 10-15 hours of heavy usage may be good...... if you actually think about the charging scheme.... you can do the same thing on the 1500 mah battery LOL
so while you THINK you are charging the battery after your light turns green on your phone, you are not. Your phone thinks the battery is still the 1500 mah battery so that is all it is charging. (yea... you got a bulkier phone and those other 1500mah arent being used/charged #fail)
I know so, cuz you said your battery percentage drops for the first 15 minutes.... with my seidio 3500 mah fully charged into the wall.... i leave the screen on for at least an hour and my battery is still a full 98% if not 99%
wall charger makes a world of difference, talking night and day.
im on my phone ALOT... i keep wifi and everything else on... with a wall charged battery, i see an easy 24 hours + !!!!! Sometimes i say to myself "why wont this damn thing die!!!!!!!!!!!!" no bull lol
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Then that settles it..i will purchase a wall charger... Recommend any in particular?
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i just stayed with the same brand bro and got the seidio (lets you charge a battery AND use a usb cord to charge your phone).... beside it being on amazon prime didnt hurt either.
gotta love overnight shipping for 4 bucks
especially for gadget junkies like us
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i just stayed with the same brand bro and got the seidio (lets you charge a battery AND use a usb cord to charge your phone).... beside it being on amazon prime didnt hurt either.
gotta love overnight shipping for 4 bucks
especially for gadget junkies like us
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for real! thanks goodelyfe!
no prob homie
So I just got this battery hm around Wednesday or Thursday, and I have let it die down to around 10% or less and recharged it overnight several times and I still only see a slight difference in battery life. I am (I would say) a moderate user and I know some people say they get around 2 days on heavy use so I wonder what I'm doing wrong..? I ran the SU command to delete the battery.bin file to wipe the stats while it was fully charged, then let it run the whole day again only getting around 12 hrs (probably would have been shorter, but I have juicedefender running, and I was at work for 5 1/2 hrs of those 12) and then I stuck it on the charger at about 7:45 and then around 12 it was fully charged and I of course turned it off, then back on and it said it was around 80% so I let it charged to full, reset it again then when I turned it back on it said it was full. I took it off the charger and within minutes it dropped 1% every minute or 2 and now around 15 minutes later it's at 86% and I'm not even doing anything, just sitting here with the screen on and Skype is running. I've only drained it/fully charged it a few times maybe 3 or 4 should I just keep doing that or did I just get a crappy battery? It's better life than the stock, so I can't help but think that it's not crappy just not fully calibrated or "worn in" yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I too have a cheapo extended battery from eBay, for the first week I hated it, but finally I actually just let the thing completely die to wear the phone shut down and wouldn't turn back on, then I recharged the battery completely in a standalone charger(also ebay), then put it back in the phone and used normally, charging and discharging and now I can't even dream of going back to the OEM battery, my battery life has much more than doubled. I use my phone like most here with CM7 up to date on nightlys and I'm happy as can be. I also like the ext back on the cheapos much better than the seidio flavor.
So you use the wall charger from eBay to charge it? I don't want to take my battery out to charge it though every night, let alone turn it off because I use it as an alarm clock :X. I've read a whole bunch of different ways of how to charge it in your phone and most people even one of the legitimate companies (Seido) who sells it, says that if you let it go an hr or 2 after the light turns green its good to go, but I don't believe it charges after the light turns green hence why the charging icon on the battery goes away. people may "think" it does but I honestly don't think it does and if anybody can prove otherwise I might have to buy the external charger :/
Yes get an external charger, Preferably 2 batteries and 1 external charger.
I just ordered a wall charger for like $15 I hope this works. I'll just charge my extended battery at night and use my other battery when the extended is charging
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I used the external charger just once to "calibrate" the battery it seemed? Since then I've not taken the battery from the phone and just charged it with the phone charger(plugging it in) and I have noticed a huge change in run time.
How do you charge it though now that its calibrated? Do you just leave it on the charger for a few hrs after it hits green or do you have to turn the phone off and back on then stick it on the charger
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Well my cheap battery has not blown up with sbc kernels
Yeah, its been about a week and my battery still can't even hold a charge, even if it isn't fully charging. It dies quicker than my stock battery. I told the guy I bought it from, and he said he'd send me a new one so I'm back to the stock battery for now until I get this one next week :/
Hey guys, i know it's a tiny bit off topic, but what about a battery pack??
http://www.amazon.com/XtremeMac-IPU-ICP-11-InCharge-Portable-US/dp/B003FVRYBE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1294354173&sr=8-1
i have two of those things and they work perfectly. plus, i don't have to kill the phone, open her up and swap batteries. additionally, it'll charge two devices at a time. bonus!
Hmm see that's what I'm trying to get rid of lol having to plug it in all the time. Plus I actually like the bigger back, I personally don't like the thin size of the evo I feel like I could drop it at any time.
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How are you guys getting so many hours? I only get like 8 Hours on my heavy use and i bought a 3500mah extended battery wtf? I'm also using the net Netarchy sbc 3.2 more havs and mym rom with setcpu running profiles. What am I doing wrong? I even have juice defender running aswell.
I had my 3500 extended battery and at first it wasnt too good. But after switching to an external charger for all charges and completely letting the battery die out im getting a whole days worth of heavy use with no worries.
No rooting or any battery controls.
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Hey guys, i know it's a tiny bit off topic, but what about a battery pack??
http://www.amazon.com/XtremeMac-IPU...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1294354173&sr=8-1
i have two of those things and they work perfectly. plus, i don't have to kill the phone, open her up and swap batteries. additionally, it'll charge two devices at a time. bonus!
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I think if I got one it would be the 4400mah gum charger
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Hey Guys,
So i just recently bought the Seidio Extended Battery 3500mah for my HTC EVO 4G. I was happy to know that I'd have battery power all day until I noticed something strange happening when it was charging.
The charging light would be on but the battery charge percentage would go up and down. It would be on its way up for a period of time, then I'd come back a little later and the percentage would be down. This is a horrible surprise to know that this wonder battery isn't living up to its name.
The phone is rooted and I've tried putting a new ROM on and it still hasnt fixed the problem.
If anyone has experienced this problem or knows of a good ROM/Kernel combo it would be greatly appreciated to get all of your advice.
Thanks guys.
I have the same battery, and I've noticed the battery does behave differently on different roms. With Sense-based roms, the battery doesn't fully charge in trickle mode (after unplugging, quickly drops from 99% to about 90% in a few minutes). Also, sometimes after switching from the extended battery to the stock battery or vice-versa, the battery appears to drop 50% or more unless I wipe the battery stats in recovery, and then it reports the correct charge level.
I don't have any of the above issues with aosp-based roms such as cyanogenmod.
The EVO will NOT fully charge a 3500 battery without a SBC kernel.
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Seido external battery charger...works like a champ and it does take awhile to charge up the 3500 battery...at least 5-7 hours if you drain it down to 10%. I do notice when I use the USB charger it charges faster but will not last nearly as long.
Get a wall charger!
I have had a wall charger and extra batteries since the first week I owned my Evo. Look on Amazon and Ebay.
I've been running mine for about 16 months on the *stock* rom, didn't go through any of the "special" break-in procedures - just started using it normally from the first charge and I still get amazing usage times after almost a year and a half. Are you using the stock HTC charger?
Hello guys,
I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus running the latest Android 4.2.1 Officialy from Google. I hae bought an original extended battery for it, but the issue is that it seems that it holds less juice than the original one, that came with the phone.
With the default battery, i get around 3 hours of screen on and with the extended one, i barely get 2:40 minutes. Tried this a couple of times.
What's the matter with it ? Do i need to calibrate it somehow ?
I have the same battery and had the same issue. After using it for about a week it started working better. What I suggest is charge it all the way up and then use it until it completely goes dead then fully charge it again. Do this a few times then you should notice the difference which isn't huge but I'm averaging about 4-5 hours more than standard now.
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I did this allready, and there's no improovement.
I have been using this batter for over 1 month now.
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I have the same battery and had the same issue. After using it for about a week it started working better. What I suggest is charge it all the way up and then use it until it completely goes dead then fully charge it again. Do this a few times then you should notice the difference which isn't huge but I'm averaging about 4-5 hours more than standard now.
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With Li-ion batteries, this should make no difference what so ever. It should get better over time. From what I've researched, you should never let a li-ion battery fully die. When it hits 20% - 30% fully charge and then don't charge again until you hit 20%. There are only so many charging cycles on a battery.
You might have something constantly running in the background that is eating your battery. Try juice defender, it drastically improved my stand by time.
What i was saying:
The stock battery holds a charge of ~3 hours of screen on time
The extended battery holds a charge that lasts less than 3 hours witch is strange because it haves a bigger capacity.
Is there any way to reset the baattery stats ? Or to reset the battery count ? Something like that ?
The whole "wipe battery stats" thing found in CWM is useless. Confirmed to be by a developer at google.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
I see. Anything else i can try ?