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Need help updating from radio 2.05 to 2.15

Hey all.
I am not ready to turn s-off yet. But I want to upgrade my radio.
The problem is when I try and use the same pg3img file I used to go to stock when I first went to 2.05 it tells me "main is older. Update failed"
And then I have to reboot.
So does anyone know what I am doing wrong. Do I need another pg3img file (can they only be used once?)
Or did I just mess something up?
Any help appreciated.
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Mean Sixteen said:
Hey all.
I am not ready to turn s-off yet. But I want to upgrade my radio.
The problem is when I try and use the same pg3img file I used to go to stock when I first went to 2.05 it tells me "main is older. Update failed"
And then I have to reboot.
So does anyone know what I am doing wrong. Do I need another pg3img file (can they only be used once?)
Or did I just mess something up?
Any help appreciated.
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from what i understand you need to have s-off to flash to 2.15

wowthatisrandom said:
from what i understand you need to have s-off to flash to 2.15
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Correct. The whole process of flashing the 2.15 radio depends on the signature checking system within the bootloader to be disabled.

Thanks to both of you.
I didn't know this was the case.
Guess I will have to seriously consider turning s-off.
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It's easy as pie. If your inc has clockwork mod it can seriously be done in less than five minutes, along with that you can flash a stock recovery in case you have to return the phone.
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s-off, 2.15 radio, skyrider 2.2 = all within 15mins or less i think.

I may have to exchange my phone is why I am hesitating on the s-off.
I understand once that is done I can never truly go back to stock. At least not s-on anyway.
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Mean Sixteen said:
I may have to exchange my phone is why I am hesitating on the s-off.
I understand once that is done I can never truly go back to stock. At least not s-on anyway.
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You think the verizon guys are gonna find out if the flag is s-off or s-on?.. NO WAY!!..
As long as it boots and there is no water damage/screen damage.. you could be on Froyo for all they care!

The pbing file wont work because it consists of an older radio and hboot. The phone wont let you downgrade your radio unless you have NAND unlocked and S-off. The only way to get the 2.15 radio i think is to have S-off. Hope this helps

mikeacela said:
The pbing file wont work because it consists of an older radio and hboot. The phone wont let you downgrade your radio unless you have NAND unlocked and S-off. The only way to get the 2.15 radio i think is to have S-off. Hope this helps
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It actually doesn't work because the zip isn't signed with the correct signatures, so HBOOT won't flash it.

[Q] How to extract original stock Rom?

How to extract stock Rom? The case is that I haven't done backup of my stock Rom branded by era provider.
Now some guy told me that he just bought desire z from era and his Rom is identical to RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.2_R_Radio_12.28e.60.14 0f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF_release (available on this forum)
except radio code which is ending with fU instead f.
So if I would like to get Rom which is flashed on his device, to have exactly what was on mine on the beginning what and how it should be done?
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Searching XDA found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android#RUU_Flashing
I think it's just connect phone, run RUU*.exe

tan-ce said:
Searching XDA found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android#RUU_Flashing
I think it's just connect phone, run RUU*.exe
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Ok thanks it is for sure usefully guide but I'd like to know how to retrieve or backup stock Rom from the phone with original stock?
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Ok, if I understand you right, you currently have a phone with stock ROM, and you want to take a backup of that phone, correct?
If that's the case, I think you'll still need to root the phone in order to install Clockwork recovery. Once you have Clockwork, then you can take a nandroid backup of your phone. So I don't think you can grab a backup of stock ROM before it was rooted.

tan-ce said:
Ok, if I understand you right, you currently have a phone with stock ROM, and you want to take a backup of that phone, correct?
If that's the case, I think you'll still need to root the phone in order to install Clockwork recovery. Once you have Clockwork, then you can take a nandroid backup of your phone. So I don't think you can grab a backup of stock ROM before it was rooted.
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Yeah so this a problem. During rooting it is necessary to downgrade your soft to 1.34 what automatically force you to loose your stock Rom. :/
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Oh right, now I remember. I think if you can't find the exact RUU, you're out of luck. What do you want that backup for anyway?

tan-ce said:
Oh right, now I remember. I think if you can't find the exact RUU, you're out of luck. What do you want that backup for anyway?
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No no I wanted only to have a possibility to back to the stock Rom if my phone will have to be sent to service on warranty.
I know one guy from Poland who also bought a phone from the same telcom operator - era.
He gave me info that the stock Rom on his phone is:
12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
While on the forum can be find the same but with one difference in radio code - only f instead fU
12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 and can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879384
But what does it mean this difference mentioned above and if it is negligible or not?
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Well, unless you've flashed a custom radio, another option could be to extract everything from that RUU you found in the forum and flashing everything except the radio.
Although if you want to send your phone for warranty you'll probably have to do a bit more work to get s-on again...

tan-ce said:
Well, unless you've flashed a custom radio, another option could be to extract everything from that RUU you found in the forum and flashing everything except the radio.
Although if you want to send your phone for warranty you'll probably have to do a bit more work to get s-on again...
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I've flashed two ROMs first one was CM7-R2 and then I've decided to use Virtuous 1.0.1. I don't know if during that process also radio was flashed :/ Was it? I am new Android so I don't know some things yet.
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Sebalos said:
I've flashed two ROMs first one was CM7-R2 and then I've decided to use Virtuous 1.0.1. I don't know if during that process also radio was flashed :/ Was it? I am new Android so I don't know some things yet.
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I'm quite sure that flashing those ROMs do not change your radio. So if you need to send for warranty, I think you'll just need to flash the ROM part of the RUU (should be able to find a post somewhere which tells you how to extract just certain parts of the RUU) and then reflash partition 7 to get S-OFF. If you used gfree, it would have made a backup of that partition before it gave you S-OFF. Hopefully you still have it.
Actually, have you taken a look at this?

[Q] Engineering SPL and radio S-OFF?

What's the purpose of the Engineering SPL?
When you get radio S-OFF, you already have access to most of the bootloader's commands, so what exactly is the purpose of having the engineering SPL when you already have radio S-OFF?

It lets you use fastboot commands. I can't really say much other than that because I don't have it, either. One thing people like about it is you can flash individual partitions like
fastboot flash partition partition.img
but functionality wise I also fail to see how a PC10IMG.zip cannot achieve the same result. I'm sure a more knowledgeable person can enlighten us

I don't have the Engineering HBOOT either but as I understand it the main benefits of having it are it gives you some more options for fixing things if you get a semi-brick as you can flash a new recovery and run other commands from fastboot.
Of course the risk is (and why I don't have it) that if something goes wrong with flashing the HBOOT you have a brick.

raitchison said:
I don't have the Engineering HBOOT either but as I understand it the main benefits of having it are it gives you some more options for fixing things if you get a semi-brick as you can flash a new recovery and run other commands from fastboot.
Of course the risk is (and why I don't have it) that if something goes wrong with flashing the HBOOT you have a brick.
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Well, when I rooted my phone via the method on the xda wiki, I unintentionally installed the Engineering SPL. I just copied and pasted all the commands since I have Ubuntu 11.04 on my computer.
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raitchison said:
I don't have the Engineering HBOOT either but as I understand it the main benefits of having it are it gives you some more options for fixing things if you get a semi-brick as you can flash a new recovery and run other commands from fastboot.
Of course the risk is (and why I don't have it) that if something goes wrong with flashing the HBOOT you have a brick.
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Well, a PC10IMG.zip will only work if your main software is less than 1.19.531.4 (For G2. I don't know about Desire Z) otherwise, you're probably gonna be facing a semi-brick.
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teh5abiking said:
Well, when I rooted my phone via the method on the xda wiki, I unintentionally installed the Engineering SPL. I just copied and pasted all the commands since I have Ubuntu 11.04 on my computer.
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then.. you were lucky
I couldn't imagine if something wrong when you were flashing it (such as electricity shutdown)
cheers...

Different HBOOT TYPES.

Hi all. I'm new to this world so asking a, may be silly, question.
I play with roms every now and then. Change my rom from one to another in couple of weeks. I found STOCK HBOOT OFFERS LESS INTERNAL SPACE THAN CM7 OR CM7r2 hboots for custom roms.
I haven't experimented yet with these things. Can someone tell me how to convert my hboot to cm7 or cm7r2? I haven't done anything with my hboot so I suppose I'm on stock hboot. Difference between cm7 and cm7r2?
Any drawbacks of doing this? And will be able to flash app2sd and data2ext normally as I do now?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
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The difference is that the hboot versions offer you a diffrent internal partition layout
you can look them up http://alpharev.nl/ <-- there
also you can download it from there
You can flash it via fastboot or via the PB99IMG.zip method or you simply use android flasher(recommanded, it´s selfexplaining)

Is there any chance of bricking my phone?
When I switch between roms sometimes I get stuck in boot loops. *no worries*
I just pull out the battery. Reboot in recovery and restore nandroid backup.
In this case I'm cautious because if I'm stuck where would I go because I'm playing with hboot. I think I won't be able to access recovery in that case, right?
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You can brick it if your downloaded hboot.img is not downloaded correcly
If you are in a bootloop you simply go into fastboot and flash the correct table(hboot) and flash your ROM
and yes you will be able to boot into recovery(if youre in a bootloop)

mohsinraza said:
Is there any chance of bricking my phone?
When I switch between roms sometimes I get stuck in boot loops. *no worries*
I just pull out the battery. Reboot in recovery and restore nandroid backup.
In this case I'm cautious because if I'm stuck where would I go because I'm playing with hboot. I think I won't be able to access recovery in that case, right?
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If your download was corrupt or you pulled the cable in the seconds during the flashing period then you'd most probably brick your phone, but during my time on this forum I have never heard of any such misfortunes occurring..
By the way instead of posting try searching... this is just common knowledge info and can be found with a quick google search or a visit to alpharev.. it really isn't hard and not really worth posting a new thread about.

bortak said:
If your download was corrupt or you pulled the cable in the seconds during the flashing period then you'd most probably brick your phone, but during my time on this forum I have never heard of any such misfortunes occurring..
By the way instead of posting try searching... this is just common knowledge info and can be found with a quick google search or a visit to alpharev.. it really isn't hard and not really worth posting a new thread about.
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I've already gone through alpharev but this question of mine about bricking the phone was never answered
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loler90 said:
You can brick it if your downloaded hboot.img is not downloaded correcly
If you are in a bootloop you simply go into fastboot and flash the correct table(hboot) and flash your ROM
and yes you will be able to boot into recovery(if youre in a bootloop)
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Thanks a million. Now this means I take a nandroid backup and download cm7r2 hboot from alpharev. Flash it and then flash a compatible rom.
Do I need a complete wipe before flashing hboot?
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One more question:
I'm on stock hboot. Will I be able to restore nandroid backup when I switch to cm7r2?
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mohsinraza said:
One more question:
I'm on stock hboot. Will I be able to restore nandroid backup when I switch to cm7r2?
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if your ROM fits

bortak said:
if your ROM fits
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Fit where and in what?
Just asking for information. I'll definitely flash a clean new rom.
I'm using Aurora for Desire. It supports both stock and cm7r2.
Will flash that rom again but then I'll have way more internal memory as compared to what I'm getting now.
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I know I'm going to ask a silly question. Sorry in advance
It's written on alpharev that check MD5SUM after downloading the hboot.
How do I check whether it's correct or not?
Don't wanna brick my phone :-(
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The nandroid needs to have the HBOOT you had, when you made that nandroid.
So if U had STOCK HBOOT when making a nandroid wich U like to go back to, then flash STOCK HBOOT - BEFORE - U nandroid back.
So for now... flash the HBOOT U want, and then right after the ROM.
And if U wanna restore your nandroid, then flash STOCK HBOOT, and then restore nandroid.
AND remember... U CAN NOT FLASH RADIO IF U ARE ON CM7R2 HBOOT,
that will brick your phone.
So flash RADIO before, OR do the procedure with ADB if U are already on CM7R2.
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MD5 checksum program: hashcalc (google it)

Jakedude2011 said:
The nandroid needs to have the HBOOT you had, when you made that nandroid.
So if U had STOCK HBOOT when making a nandroid wich U like to go back to, then flash STOCK HBOOT - BEFORE - U nandroid back.
So for now... flash the HBOOT U want, and then right after the ROM.
And if U wanna restore your nandroid, then flash STOCK HBOOT, and then restore nandroid.
AND remember... U CAN NOT FLASH RADIO IF U ARE ON CM7R2 HBOOT,
that will brick your phone.
So flash RADIO before, OR do the procedure with ADB if U are already on CM7R2.
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MD5 checksum program: hashcalc (google it)
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Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. Will flash cm7r2 and new rom as soon as I get to my PC.
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No problem. Good Luck.

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bortak said:
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Thanks buddy. I'm a hostellite. Plan to go home on this weekend.
Will give it a try then.
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MD5 SUM check
Alright so I read about the md5sum check got the software to check it as well, even though it didnt match, I still managed to get the cm7/r2 hboot & flash insertcoin. I want to know how exactly we know if md5sums have matched cos i want to change my rom & i want to know how i can check if the rom is compatible with the cm7/r2 hboot.
Insertcoin freezes a lot on my phone I have no idea why.
Lots of questions on this post from me, someone please answer. need help

gyak88 said:
Alright so I read about the md5sum check got the software to check it as well, even though it didnt match, I still managed to get the cm7/r2 hboot & flash insertcoin. I want to know how exactly we know if md5sums have matched cos i want to change my rom & i want to know how i can check if the rom is compatible with the cm7/r2 hboot.
Insertcoin freezes a lot on my phone I have no idea why.
Lots of questions on this post from me, someone please answer. need help
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This is very awkward if you still managed to flash cm7r2 even though md5sum didn't match.
I haven't tried it yet. Will give a try tomorrow.
Every rom has mentioned which hboots are compatible. You can check it from there.
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gyak88 said:
Alright so I read about the md5sum check got the software to check it as well, even though it didnt match, I still managed to get the cm7/r2 hboot & flash insertcoin. I want to know how exactly we know if md5sums have matched cos i want to change my rom & i want to know how i can check if the rom is compatible with the cm7/r2 hboot.
Insertcoin freezes a lot on my phone I have no idea why.
Lots of questions on this post from me, someone please answer. need help
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You do realise... the point of an md5 match is so that you know the thing that is uploaded.. is exactly the same thing that you downloaded... so... when it matches "hooray lets flash away"... when it doesn't "holy mother of god get the hell of my computer"... you sure you used it right?

mohsinraza said:
This is very awkward if you still managed to flash cm7r2 even though md5sum didn't match.
I haven't tried it yet. Will give a try tomorrow.
Every rom has mentioned which hboots are compatible. You can check it from there.
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if you are using cm7r2 hboot, make sure to flash market cache fix else you will face issue when you download large size apps from market.

Failed, remote: Not allowed

Yo, again problems with fckin htc devices.
I just downgraded the rom from gingerbread to 2.2 froyo.
After that I rooted the phone, but now I cant install cwm recovery via adb.
Always gettin the msg "failed, REMOTE: NOT ALLOWED "
Debugging is enabled.
Anyone can help me with that crap htc phone?

Calling your g2/dz crap doesn't make it so, it just sounds like you don't know what you're doing and then complaing that it must be the phones fault... kinda flawed logic.
But if you want some help rooting it why don't you post a copy of your cmd output/imput and we can see where you went wrong. Also maybe link the guide you're following as there may bed a better one that is easier for you to understand
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demkantor said:
Calling your g2/dz crap doesn't make it so, it just sounds like you don't know what you're doing and then complaing that it must be the phones fault... kinda flawed logic.
But if you want some help rooting it why don't you post a copy of your cmd output/imput and we can see where you went wrong. Also maybe link the guide you're following as there may bed a better one that is easier for you to understand
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Htc is crap. I got also a sensation. I got more than enough bugs after the ics update.
Well, nvm
B2T
Downgrade guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
root : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG4I6W8MMnQ

Well that is the right downgrade guide, now you need to root it, follow the xda wiki to do that... if you have issues post the imput output of cmd
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demkantor said:
Well that is the right downgrade guide, now you need to root it, follow the xda wiki to do that... if you have issues post the imput output of cmd
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The phone is already rooted and S-off

During the rooting process and gaining true radio soff you will have a custom recovery.
Did you follow the YouTube video to root then?
The only method you won't to use to root is with gfree
Either follow the xda wiki
Cyanogens wiki
Or straw metals PDF guide
For the most part anything else you do will cause you problems
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Yea, I followed the youtube video.
How can I roll it back to s-on?

i just quickly looked at the youtube video and it seems it was having you run gfree for the exploit which is good but doing it through terminal emulator not through adb. shouldnt be an issue doing this but im too lazy to go through the video and see if it was telling you all the right things, either way you need to check and see if gfree worked.
check THIS POST out, follow the steps at the bottom and see if gfree worked. if you have true radio s-off than flash one of the pc10img.zips through hboot or fastboot - fastboot is the preferred method as if there is an error it will tell it to you and you can choose not to reboot until it is fixed.
if you need further help feel free to ask

Just checked it.
But got one question
"~make nandroid in recovery"
How can I make a backup without recovery? :x

As long as it says secure flag zero you are safe to use the pc10img.zip
The nandroid is just so you can restore easy, instead just flash a new rom
But you may just want to flash the recovery through fastboot if you're not interested in changing radios etc, so long as you have an engineering SPL you can do this, if not flashing the pc10img.zip will give you one.
More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27796375
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