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Hi,
I just bought a HTC Desire from Orange FR.
I bought an unlock code on ebay, it worked very well.
My question is : If I root my phone, and flash a generic Europe rom, will my phone still be unlocked or not ?
Do I still need to do the gold card ?
Thank you for your help
Yes your phone will still be unlocked, it doesn't matter what you do to the phone now, it will always be unlocked (unless you change mainboard)
No, you shouldn't need GoldCard now either, but if it's not working, then obviously use a GoldCard
Really good to hear,
Thank you for your answer !
You will still need a goldcard to root.
The sim lock has nothing to do with the goldcard.
You will also find that if you flash a rom with a new radio it will sim lock your phone again. You just need to re enter your unlock code to fix that though.
socktug said:
You will still need a goldcard to root.
The sim lock has nothing to do with the goldcard.
You will also find that if you flash a rom with a new radio it will sim lock your phone again. You just need to re enter your unlock code to fix that though.
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I flashed the new leaked radio and it didn't sim lock my phone, I got branded Orange UK, had to unroot to unlock it then re-root and now I've flashed a few radios and it's still unlocked
And sorry about the information about the GoldCard, I read it and thought that you only needed it if the carrier was locked, not that it was branded, so yes you will need GoldCard
You may have been lucky with the radio flashes! There have been loads of posts from Orange users who have flashed any radio other than the 405 one and it locked their phones. Either way, once you have the unlock code you are sorted anyway
socktug said:
You may have been lucky with the radio flashes! There have been loads of posts from Orange users who have flashed any radio other than the 405 one and it locked their phones. Either way, once you have the unlock code you are sorted anyway
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Yer, it sim locks Orange if you haven't already unlocked it, it used to sim lock mine and even if I entered the unlock code it wouldn't unlock, I had to unroot and everything just to unlock, and now I can flash any radio and it stays unlocked
Do I have to root to do this ? :
How to flash ROM
You need to have HTC Sync and Android SDK installed
Download this
Turn off Desire and then turn it on while holding back button to enter bootloader(white screen)
Once in "white screen" press power button again to enter bootloader
Connect Desire with PC
Press Volume Down and than Power to enter Recovery
Now the red triangle should show up, go to folder you downloaded file and press recovery-windows.bat, recovery-mac.sh or recovery-linux.sh depending on which OS you have
Now you are in recovery mode (green screen), press Wipe and than Wipe data/clear storage, than press optical tracker to confirm it
After that press Volume Down to go back to main menu in recovery
Navigate to Flash zip from sdcard using optical tracker, select .zip confirm it and wait until process finish, after that press Reboot system and unplug you Desire
Enjoy your new ROM
I just want to flash a generic Europe rom.
Thank you
Yes you need root to do that
Hi, Thank you for your help..
A few questions please.
I had to make a goldcard even if phone was SIMUnlocked.
It worked well, my phone is now rooted.
Android says there is an update available, 1.21... it tries to install, phone reboot, green logo appears, and then logo change to red ? and reboot, phone not updated.
What does it mean ?
I had a Orange France branded phone, the rooted generic rom is it "Europe" there is French language in it.
Is it needed to update to 1.21 ?
Do I have to find an Europe ROM ?
When I try to flash any ROM (like Europe official ROM) by renaming it to update.zip with recovery menu, if fails, signature error. Do I need the "ClockworkMod" ?
Thank you for all
If your rooted, you can flash any ROM you want, you don't need to update to 1.21.
But for some ROMs it requires you to install a new radio first, so watch out for that.
Well, not sure how to do it.
On recovery menu ? flash a zip from SDCard and select it ?
The OTA 1.21 update fails do flash with a red "?" is it normal ?
If I update with OTA Update, it will remove root access, right ?
Thank you
Orphee said:
Well, not sure how to do it.
On recovery menu ? flash a zip from SDCard and select it ?
The OTA 1.21 update fails do flash with a red "?" is it normal ?
If I update with OTA Update, it will remove root access, right ?
Thank you
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Correct!
If you flash an OTA or official update from HTC you will lose root.
In recovery, choose flash a zip from sd card, then select the one you want. It's not always needed, but it's a good idea to do a full wipe before each new rom. If you experience odd behaviour and you haven't wiped, then reflash it after wiping.
Thank you for your help and your patience.
Is there any advantage to find a 1.21 rooted update ?
or rooted 1.15 is enough ?
thank you again.
As far as I know 1.21 has a few minor fixes, and a couple of new icons.
Just out of curiosity, what did you root for? Most people do it for apps2sd or to put a custom rom on. I'm just wondering, that's all
Well, I had a branded orange ROM, I wanted to remove it.
I thought I needed to root to flash the phone, maybe I'm wrong. I had to make a goldcard.
I will probably use apps2sd in the next few days, I just need to know if I can still have (need ?) goldcard and apps2sd..
I did not search but I saw you format SD to install apps2sd, I don't know if I can install goldcard again after. I will search for it.
Now my phone is rooted (and unlocked with code before flash), I don't know if I need to keep goldcard.
Orphee said:
Well, I had a branded orange ROM, I wanted to remove it.
I thought I needed to root to flash the phone, maybe I'm wrong. I had to make a goldcard.
I will probably use apps2sd in the next few days, I just need to know if I can still have (need ?) goldcard and apps2sd..
I did not search but I saw you format SD to install apps2sd, I don't know if I can install goldcard again after. I will search for it.
Now my phone is rooted (and unlocked with code before flash), I don't know if I need to keep goldcard.
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You didn't need to root if you just wanted to debrand away from Orange, a goldcard and official wwe rom would have done. As you want to use apps2sd then rooting was the right option though!
I'm not 100% sure on the goldcard, if you need it again, but I do know you will wipe your SD card for apps2sd. You need to partition it which basically reformats it.
Yeah I saw this, I have to check if I can restore Goldcard after.
Is WWE recommanded for me ? I guess rooted image is WWE (there French language is in it, why ?) ... My as I'm in France, I don't know if I need to find a European ROM or not
Thank you
Orphee said:
I will probably use apps2sd in the next few days, I just need to know if I can still have (need ?) goldcard and apps2sd..
I did not search but I saw you format SD to install apps2sd, I don't know if I can install goldcard again after. I will search for it.
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You will need goldcard every time you flash something on your phone. That's why I use 2 sd cards: one as a goldcard when I flash roms, and other one for every day, which I partitioned...
djoni1980 said:
You will need goldcard every time you flash something on your phone. That's why I use 2 sd cards: one as a goldcard when I flash roms, and other one for every day, which I partitioned...
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Well I don't use a GoldCard everytime
Mine works just fine without a GoldCard
Hello Users,
I really hope some of the experienced Desire users here can help me out!
I bought a HTC Desire with T-Mobile branding in Germany (appears to be the sLED version). It has no SIM lock and I just hate the T-Mobile branding so I tried to debrand and update the ROM to a stock rom from HTC.
I used the GoldCard Tool to create a GoldCard from my 4GB SD that came with the device and downloaded the latest version of Froyo 2.2 from shipped roms (first I tried the 2.09.405.8, then the upgrade to 2.10.405.2).
As soon as I debranded my desire I had no option to turn on the Wifi anymore. If I go to the menu point where I can enable the Wifi, it takes a few seconds and sets a green hook. Shortly afterwards it is searching for available networks and comes up with the error message "Unable to scan for networks".
I tried many different ROMs now, downgraded, upgraded, created the GoldCard again, etc. and followed everything I could find on the web to solve the problem. I also tried different SIM cards but nothing works.
I am quite sure that the hardware is ok, because it was working with the T-Mobile branded ROM.
When I start the phone holding down the vol-down key, it says:
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.05.30_2
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
(maybe that helps)
Who ever is able to get me that Desire working will definitely get some donations for beer from me!
Thank you in advance!
First thing would be to go back to stock but the German T-Mobile ROM isn't available so that's out the window. Only thing you can try is to roll back to 2.1 and see if it then works. Follow this guide to roll back your HBOOT/ROM back to 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
I did try to roll back my mobile phone even to the 1.2 something, that you can get from shipped roms webpage. The problem is that it is not really supporting the sLCD phones, if I downgrade I have a black screen.
Any other ideas?
What if I downgrade, root and use a custom ROM - could that help to solve my problem?
If so, what custom ROM would you conider to be the best right now in my case?
That guide I posted puts the correct 1.21 with support for SLCD Desires...follow it then you can what you want
I think I tried the guide already, with the result, that I had a black screen after rebooting the device. But I will try again.
I have the same issue with debranded (not rooted) Desire (T-Mobile), 2.10 damaged wifi. I have the original AMOLED version. I wonder now if I can still repair it somehow without loosing data, settings, applications etc.
So it seems to happen with the sLCD as well as with the AMOLED.
Any more users out there that have/had the same issue?
My phone is brand new, no software, apps or data on it that I would miss so I can try everything out to repair it.
I was in a mobile shop here in Vietnam and the guy explained to me that I should download and purchase an APP called "Super Manager Andriod" that would allow you to delete files in the ROOT. He said if I go to the folder /something/wifi/... there will be only one file in there, if I delete it, the WiFi would work again.
From my point of view that makes not a lot of sense, can he be right? The app cost $8 and if anyone here thinks that might work without a rooted Desire, please tell me.
Are there any other apps that allow you to delete files from ROOT that are freeware?
Solution (NO DATA LOSS)!
Credit goes to OOK, I've just added more detailed comments:
1) Create and insert a gold card
2) Download http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_HTC_EU_2.10.405.2-2.09.405.8_releaseol2djq7rqarka2ka.zip
3) Copy it to the gold card and rename to update.zip
4) Power off the phone
5) Power on while holding Volume Down
6) Wait until everything is loaded and displayed, scroll with Volume Down to Recover and press Power button
7) Press Volume UP + Power buttons when warning triangle appears
8) Scroll down with Volume Down to Apply sdcard:update.zip
9) Press Power
10) Confirm restart by Power button when the installation is finished (press once, it takes some time to show some progress)
11) Wait, wait, wait, and finally wait.
12) Enjoy
My recommendation - do you have debranded Desire? Always have goldcard inserted (ie. transform your normal SD card into goldcard and use it normally)
Did this work with your Desire?
I am quite sure I tried this already, I will download, unzip, rename, install again and see what happens.
you dont unzip, you just move the zip file to the sd card
If I have created a GoldCard once, will it stay a GoldCard, or do I have to create a new GoldCard after I format or change data on it?
EddyOS said:
you dont unzip, you just move the zip file to the sd card
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Yes ofcourse, my bad. I am running it right now, will know more in 5 min.
DivineLuckBox said:
Hello Users,
I really hope some of the experienced Desire users here can help me out!
I bought a HTC Desire with T-Mobile branding in Germany (appears to be the sLED version). It has no SIM lock and I just hate the T-Mobile branding so I tried to debrand and update the ROM to a stock rom from HTC.
I used the GoldCard Tool to create a GoldCard from my 4GB SD that came with the device and downloaded the latest version of Froyo 2.2 from shipped roms (first I tried the 2.09.405.8, then the upgrade to 2.10.405.2).
As soon as I debranded my desire I had no option to turn on the Wifi anymore. If I go to the menu point where I can enable the Wifi, it takes a few seconds and sets a green hook. Shortly afterwards it is searching for available networks and comes up with the error message "Unable to scan for networks".
I tried many different ROMs now, downgraded, upgraded, created the GoldCard again, etc. and followed everything I could find on the web to solve the problem. I also tried different SIM cards but nothing works.
I am quite sure that the hardware is ok, because it was working with the T-Mobile branded ROM.
When I start the phone holding down the vol-down key, it says:
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.05.30_2
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
(maybe that helps)
Who ever is able to get me that Desire working will definitely get some donations for beer from me!
Thank you in advance!
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did you have your goldcard inserted when you updated to 2.10.405.2?
Yes I did, I just have the 4GB SD that came with the device. I created the goldcard and kept it in the device.
I tried the update.zip - no success.
I start to hate this Desire phone...
DivineLuckBox said:
Yes I did, I just have the 4GB SD that came with the device. I created the goldcard and kept it in the device.
I tried the update.zip - no success.
I start to hate this Desire phone...
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so you didn't do the update OTA??
I bought a Telus HTC desire from someone in Canada and I have the same wifi issue. However I do not have a goldcard. If I create one and go along with the process will I lose my unlock and access to ATT network?
jstdontgiva said:
I bought a Telus HTC desire from someone in Canada and I have the same wifi issue. However I do not have a goldcard. If I create one and go along with the process will I lose my unlock and access to ATT network?
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creating a goldcard alone will not damage or make you lose anything
My big question is that if i have my goldcard inserted and choose to do the OTA update to 2.10.405.2 on my debranded desire, should there be any problems????????
No, the gold card is needed to allow the OTA to install. Without it you get ID errors (or issue with it not fully installing)...you can't apply the OTA to a rooted phone, though
Hello
Few days ago I was prompted to install update 2.10.405.2. After the installation I can't enable wifi anymore; it simply says error. I just got my phone 2 weeks ago on an Orange contract (from mobiles.co.uk), but when I contacted HTC they said that my phone should be a branded and locked O2 Desire. HTC said that because my phone was unbranded the update messed my phone. Is that possible?
I noticed that quite a few people are affected by this, but the guy from HTC wouldn't say if they are aware of this problem or if they are working on a fix. They "escalated" the call but haven't contacted me back yet.
Is there a way to simply uninstall the update?
I read this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779787 but I wouldn't want to downgrade to 2.1 (I just got this phone 2 weeks ago, plus this is my first Android so...) wouldn't that invalidate my warranty ?
Please advise,
Thanks
If your Desire was a previously branded handset then you need your gold card in the unit for ALL updates. This is why the handset is having issues...
I didn't know that.
Why was I given a previously branded phone in the first place, if this could cause problems like this?
Anyway, I made my main microSD card a gold card now... for future updates. Does this gold card just needs to be in the device when you update, or you need to do something else as well ?
Is there a way to simply uninstall this bloody update?
You just need the gold card in the unit...Don't suppose you happen to know the software version that was on the unit when you got it do you?
Unfortunately no. But this was the first and only update that I got, if that helps.
Same issue here, is a hard reset/reflash the only solution? I'd rather not lose my files and stuff, ofcourse.
It would be either 1.21.405.2 or 2.09.405.8 I'd imagine...
CPW own mobiles.co.uk so it should've been an unbranded device - mine was from a CPW store and was unbranded - so it may have not been a branded unit. Follow this guide and if it completes with no issues you're on an unbranded unit (it will roll you back to Android 2.1 and you can then flash the Android 2.2 RUU file directly (or try the OTA update again)*
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
* You will lose all data, mind, so backup what you need before doing this
Will this invalidate my warranty?
I also contacted mobiles.co.uk (as HTC suggested) to ask them why on HTC database my phone apears as a branded O2 phone, but still got no answer from them. You are saying that it should have been an unbranded Desire ?
No it won't, if it completes then you've got a generic Desire and that guide puts you back to stock 2.1...you can then update again to 2.2 and HTC won't know a thing...
I'm saying it should have been an unbranded Desire going from my experience of CPW - that's not to say EVERY Desire will be unbranded as it depends where they got the stock from
Quote from post : [HOWTO] Downgrade Froyo (2.2) to Stock 2.1 (ANY HBOOT | WIN/LINUX/MAC | ROOT)
"Further Information
If you want to flash an alternative RUU (e.g. a branded 2.1 release), just skip the downgrade section at the end by pressing vol-down on the phone when the utility has completed. Then reboot the phone and run the RUU you want. If you have an SLCD screen you should be very careful here - most RUUs don't support the screen."
Question: Do I need to skip the downgrade?
My model number is HTC Desire A8181 - is this with SLCD screen?
I have downloaded RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Is this ok to flash after this process?
Sorry, I am a novice (got the phone 2 weeks ago) and did not expect to bump into problems like this so early.
Please help, I wouldn't want to brick my phone.
The guide downgrades you to the stock 1.21.405.2 ROM which is fine for SLCD screens. You can then either use that RUU or just do the OTA update again - whichever you prefer (personally, I use the RUU)
There should be no issues if you follow the guide to the letter
Other thing to try first, though, is a hard reset - it might fix it for you
Just did a hard-reset. It didn't help. Will try downgrading and let you know how it went.
I did the downgrade and now the wireless is working again )
I'm flashing that RUU now
Thanks so much EddyOS
No worries matey, just keep the gold card in the phone and you shouldn't have issue in future
I had the same problem.
No WiFi and hotspot after ota.
This because i forgot to put in my goldcard...
Easiest way to fix it is to make a goldcard, then get the .zip file from the 2.10.405.2 update and place it on the goldcard.
Rename it update.zip.
Put the goldcard in your phone.
Then enter recovery mode (reboot your phone, when turning on hold the lock button and volume down button)
Select recovery in the menu you get, then wait, after a while it shows you a few options. Choose the option to run the update.zip.
Done, everything works perfectly.
Its really easy, only making the goldcard out of an SD requires a little searching/reading.
Good luck!
Edit: forgot to say it doesnt erase any data, like apps and contacts.
Just be sure if you use your current SD card as goldcard to copy everything to your pc before making it. Then you can put it back later on.
Finaly back to the latest 2.2 Android. Updated using OTA.
Tried updating with RUU but for some reason after the RUU rebooted the phone to start the update, the phone got stuck on the HTC screen and the RUU timed out; tried it several times.
But I'm back on track now.
Will keep the goldcard in at all times. Lesson learned the hard way.
DaannRoz - unfortunately I already did the hard-reset...
Thanks everybody.
Thanks DaannRoz
I put a new 16gb into my phone a while back and put it through the gold card process so I thought it should work. It didnt and I got the Wifi error code. I put the original gold card in and went through the steps you provided and got my Wifi back. It saved me from reflashing the phone and wiping out all my apps and data.
I anyone gets a picture of a phone with a red triangle and a apostrophe in it you need to push and hold the volume key up and then press the power button to get to the rom select screen.
Thanks Daan..
Just stuffed my Desire. Will try the update via recovery @ home.
BTW is this the update you want me to do ??
http: / / fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_HTC_EU_2.10.405.2-2.09.405.8_releaseol2djq7rqarka2ka.zip[/url]
Cheers,
Sai
Thanks Daan...now my Wifi works...
@Sai> I used the link provided by you..thnx.. (Hope its an original one!!!)
saro
I got the same issue. After reapplying the update with an update.zip and the recovery mode --with gold card inside at this moment-- everything goes fine and my WiFi works again...
Hello Friends,
I am new to Android world, and I have been seeing many articles regarding rooting DHD and i want to do so.
I have sim lock free DHD which i bought from expansys.com , does gold card is different than sim lock free thing?
While start up my DHD shows t-mobile image and i am unable to get in to bootloader using Volume down and power button. Can anyone help me with it. Do i need to get my DHD a gold card?
can anyone please help me out?
Thanks & sorry in advance i have annoyed you guys with this question.
but please help me.
Looking forward to your replies.
Thanks once again.
Hi
On your phone press Menu > Settings > About Phone > Software Info
If you have build number 1.32 you don't need to downgrade and can proceed straight to rooting it, but if you have 1.72 you will need to downgrade.
I've posted links to all the relevant guides for downgrading / rooting / debranding T-Mobile DHDs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920238
Lee
Thanks CitizenLee.
My build number is 1.75.111 so i think i need to downgrade as you have mentioned, but do i need to get goldcard for that?
if i get the goldcard would my phone still be a simlock-free?
Please don't mind my stupid questions.
Looking for your help.
Thanks a lot.
not_a_geek said:
Thanks CitizenLee.
My build number is 1.75.111 so i think i need to downgrade as you have mentioned, but do i need to get goldcard for that?
if i get the goldcard would my phone still be a simlock-free?
Please don't mind my stupid questions.
Looking for your help.
Thanks a lot.
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if you are on 1.75.111.x you will most probably need goldcard. go into bootloader and check the CID. if it is not HTC_001, you will need a goldcard to downgrade to 1.32.405.x. sim-unlocked phones stay unlocked so don't worry about that.
descenpet said:
if you are on 1.75.111.x you will most probably need goldcard. go into bootloader and check the CID. if it is not HTC_001, you will need a goldcard to downgrade to 1.32.405.x. sim-unlocked phones stay unlocked so don't worry about that.
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Thanks descenpet,
Yes its 1.75.111.2. But there is one more problem i am not able to get into boot loader i know its strange but is there any solution for that.
I used volume down and power button to get into boot loader but instead of getting in to boot loader it just starts with the t-mobile startup.
Thanks for your help.
if the fast boot checkbox is checked in settings>applications, uncheck it.
Thanks it worked.
Now i am able to see the boot loader screen.
it says S-on
H-BOOT 0.85.0018
RADIO 26.04.02.17_M2
eMMC boot
where to see CID information? and what is IMAGE CRC?
Thanks again.
it's in the System Info menu. i'm not sure if there is such menu in SHIP HBOOT. or you can type getprop ro.cid in terminal or ADB shell.
either way since your phone is from t-mo and build is not 1.xx.405.x i guess you will need the goldcard anyway so just make one.
Right, I have a slight issue.... my wifes phone is playing up at the moment ... the dreaded reboot issue when ever you do more than make a call, so I need to send the phone back to HTC.
The problem ...
I don't have my gold card anymore ... it was on my desk and the cat must have eaten it! I have tried unrooting without and it stops with an incorrect bootloader message (or something along those lines)
I have managed to boot back into Android after clearing all data (via the bootloader), am I ok in creating a goldcard even though I am on a custom ROM and not stock?
Did try Googling but got mixed messages .... not all relating to the Desire either.
Anyone tried unrooting an O2 Desire yet? If so what RUU did you use?
Thanks in advance
Doesn't matter what ROM you are on, you can even create a goldcard without your phone if necessary.
Be careful which RUU you choose, as some of the older ones can cause an SLCD brick (depending on which screen you have).
I'm not sure about the situation with O2, but I debranded my Orange phone with the latest stock RUU as there have been no Orange RUU leaks.
Thank you,
Hopefully that will work, it is going back to HTC not O2, so will probably go for the latest stock RUU (and hopefully the goldcard will work!!)
The bootloader is dated Aug 10 from memory so fairly new and still falls under HTC warranty.
Will post a few more details about the bootloader version later.
Thanks again.
matt.xx said:
Doesn't matter what ROM you are on, you can even create a goldcard without your phone if necessary.
Be careful which RUU you choose, as some of the older ones can cause an SLCD brick (depending on which screen you have).
I'm not sure about the situation with O2, but I debranded my Orange phone with the latest stock RUU as there have been no Orange RUU leaks.
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