[Q] - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,I've noticed that once the WiFi hotspot settings is turned on on my mobile,the phone itself tends to consume data at the same time as the other WiFi enabled device is accessing the data connection.is this a normal thing? Or is there a setting that'll prevent the phone from accessing data at the same time.Both mobile and tablet tend to blow thru my data plan as they are accessing it together through the hotspot settings.

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Anyone can answer about data connection?

When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?
It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
Zappza said:
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
pantera70 said:
NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.
When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.
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So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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Mobile data turns on when wifi turns off?

I've noticed that whenever I turn off my wifi connection, the mobile data connection automatically turns itself on. This is quite annoying as I usually have it turned off to conserve battery.
Is there any way to disable this?
Thanks in advance.
No as the Desire is a smart phone which always needs a connection to the Internet to update - it's working as designed
Well if the user specifically wants to turns off the APN connection and keep it off until manually turned on, I don't see why that's such a big ask. I only want to have control of my phone, not the other way around.
I use Honolulu Team's Extended Controls to switch both wi-fi and mobile data off when not required.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/extended-controls/com.extendedcontrols
Spannaa said:
I use Honolulu Team's Extended Controls to switch both wi-fi and mobile data off when not required.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/extended-controls/com.extendedcontrols
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I also use this, but if I have wifi turned on for example (with mobile data turned off prior), when I turn off the wifi the mobile data immediately activates without my say so.
There must be some way to disable this automatic connecting.

[Q] WiFi hotspot issue on Desire

Hi,I've noticed that once the WiFi hotspot settings is turned on on my mobile,the phone itself tends to consume data at the same time as the other WiFi enabled device is accessing the data connection.is this a normal thing? Or is there a setting that'll prevent the phone from accessing data at the same time as my tablet or laptop.Cos with both device using the hotspot,more data tend to be consumed which means I'll have to top up my data plan earlier than expected.Thanks in advance.
The way in which it works is that your phone gets used as a modem. Since when you enable hotspots, the phone can only do 1 thing. Either be a hotspot or have a wifi connection, not both. So when you enable hotspot it disables the wifi and uses your mobile data instead, thus your phone being a modem... so to speak.
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[Q] Switch off cell / GSM module while keeping mobile data / WiFi

I have found many posts regarding keeping the phone module running while switching off the mobile data or WiFi modules of the Desire but my problem is the other way around. Since I never use my Desire as a phone but only for internet access via mobile data or WiFi, I would like to switch off ONLY the mobile phone capabilities (which drain the largest part of the power over the day). Is that possible at all?
Thanks for any hints!
frotty
Yes, you CAN keep WiFi ON while being in Airplane Mode (cell service turned off), but you can't keep mobile data on because it requires cell service in order to work.
Thanks a lot, TVTV. That clarifies it.
All the best
frotty

How to turn off Mobile Data Usage?

So I went into Settings -> Wireless Networks -> Data Usage... I wanted to try enabling the notifications, they seemed to work fine but I decided I didn't really need to be notified about data usage since switching to an unlimited plan, problem is I can't turn the data usage notifications off now? I can't change the data amount to nothing like it used to be before. Zero doesn't work either.
Anyone else run into this?

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