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Made a partition with a GoldCard.

Hi everyone.
Im new to the Rooting scene, and im kinda noob. Ive rooted my phone and Goldcarded my MS(4GB).
And today I downloaded ROMmanager and partitioned my SD card also known as my Goldcard. IS this stilll a goldcard now or have i messed up everything?
thanks.

You should be able to repartition your Gold Card and have it remain entirely as FAT32. It's your other SD Card (normal) that you are meant to partition, not the Gold Card.
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haha, well the problem is, I only have one memcard. So ur saying it isnt possible to partition a goldcard and use it as as both GoldCard and a normal stick? That was mainly my intention with the card so far
BTW, do I need Goldcardx to install custom ROMs and enter the custom recovery menu etc.? or is it just to root the phone?

It's just to root your phone. You don't need it anymore to flash new roms.
Afaik there aren't any problems with using the goldcard as regular SD card.

you can enter recovery without goldcard, but you'll need it in future to install roms

djoni1980 said:
you can enter recovery without goldcard, but you'll need it in future to install roms
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No you don't - once you made your Desire "generic", you shouldn't need your goldcard again just to flash a new custom ROM.
Regards,
Dave

I did everything with goldcard inside, so I'm not sure, but as I remember, people who debranded their Orange phones to 1.15, couldn't do successfull OTA to 1.21 (wifi stopped working) because there was no goldcard inside. Once they put goldcard inside, they could do complete OTA (although phone simlocked ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697194
Based on that, I always used goldcard to flash roms, but I could be wrong, I'm relatively new with this

Hey I'm new aswell and I used my goldcard to root and then partitioned it for apps2sd+ and its still all working fine so I don't think your phone will explode or stop working

dont worri even if you have partitioned your sd card, it will still work as a goldcard

A unique USB brick

Someone I know has gotten their Desire USB bricked. Normally that's a non-issue but there's a few erm... complications.
Here's how it occurred, they have an O2 branded Desire but somehow they managed to get the Android 2.2 update (No one else with an O2 Desire got it btw). As you'd imagine it caused quite a few issues, it apparently got to 80% then restarted went to 33% and then restarted. Now it's USB bricked.
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0 has no effect meaning we can't SD card access
The current ROM has a Froyo version number and is very very unstable. It crashes after about 2 minutes and then reboots.
It's HBOOT 0.80 at the moment (Despite the OTA 2.2 update being HBOOT 0.92???) and using the HBOOT 0.80 rooting package I cannot get Step 1 to successfully execute. It gives error 41: remote id failure.

How to get back to older ROM after FROYO update messed everything up
Same issue here. I have an orange branded htc desire which I debranded, then updated to 2.2 Froyo without a goldcard and now have a bricked phone. No access to SD, Wifi, GSM, Force closes all the time, and reboots every couple of minutes in a loop.
Running update in recovery mode doesnt work, neither does running Stock RUU files on different versions with goldcard in phone.
Hboot is 0.80, 2.2 showing as installed. Unsure what to do next really, any suggestions would be great, there must be loads of people who have this issue now...
more threads here on similar issue, replace xx with tt
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741474
and
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741672

I had the same issue. Virgin UK phone. Used a zip version of the OTA Froyo and got stuck with it looping.
To fix it I created a new goldcard in my girlfriend's phone and used the same zip file on the goldcard to flash from the bootloader.
My phone has not been rooted.
Hope that helps and good luck.

pjfriend said:
I had the same issue. Virgin UK phone. Used a zip version of the OTA Froyo and got stuck with it looping.
To fix it I created a new goldcard in my girlfriend's phone and used the same zip file on the goldcard to flash from the bootloader.
My phone has not been rooted.
Hope that helps and good luck.
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I thought Goldcards could only be created in the phone you plan on using it in? I can still manage to create a goldcard using my phone, so maybe I have a different issue.
PS where did you get the OTA Froyo update?

Why u dont try?
http://www.unrevoked.com/#desire
This installs a custom Recovery but i think u need a Sdcard.
If yes call the devs for help if they could patch it that it runs with DataPartition or something else. If u have Hboot 0.80 Unrevoked works! 100%

Mines the same.....unfortunately I don't have access to another Desire, and none of the so called fixes work......I'm on Orange and this update has well and truly shafted my phone,now I have the most expensive brick in the house.....get in!

The problem you have is your sd card is not recognized so unrevoked doesnt work and neither does 'enabling' your sd card via adb devices....its all crap

I created my goldcard in an HTC Tattoo which worked like a charm. I used the sticky post at the very top of the development section for instructions. Once done I copied http://liveimage.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8-1.21.405.2_release4dua3bcrut4wrv30.zip to the SD card and renamed it to update.zip. make sure windows doesn't change it to update.zip.zip
I then installed it from the bootloader.

So all I really need to do is create a goldcard and it should work for him?
I'll tell him to give that a shot. It would be impossible to create a gold card with a proper CID though because as we all know ADB doesn't work with USB bricks.

abc27 said:
So all I really need to do is create a goldcard and it should work for him?
I'll tell him to give that a shot. It would be impossible to create a gold card with a proper CID though because as we all know ADB doesn't work with USB bricks.
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I used this http://www.roothtchero.co.uk/goldcard-2
There's a tool to create a goldcard linked in the guide. Made it very easy. I'm really no expert but I think the cid isn't dependant on the phone, just the card. I couldn't get it to work in a card reader but was very straight forward when it was connected to the pc through my girlfriend's Tattoo. Didn't cause any problems with me using 64 bit windows 7 either.

[Q] Bricked HTC Desire after installing OTA 2.2 Update

Hi,
I'm new so please excuse any of my stupid questions.
I have an unbranded, unlocked HTC Desire, in Australia, apparently it was a t-mobile device. Being naive I didn't realize this could create issues with OTA updates - I know now though! I don't think it's rooted, but wouldn't know the difference. There are no telco logos etc.
My desire got stuck in a rebook loop when I installed the OTA update to android 2.2. It seems to me the update hasn't completed. I finally got restarted after removing the battery.
In about phone it says I have:
Android 2.2 installed
build 3.13.720.1 CL233262
Baseband version 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2
Kernel 2.6.29.0cb9f166
I have
HBOOT 0.82
RADIO 4.06.00.02_2 if that's relevant.
The phone won't recognize my sim card or SD card and gets an error when I try to turn on wifi. For added joy it frequently force closes.
I tried to do a factory reset but it never seemed to complete. Then I turned on with vol down + power and did clear storage. It removed my data but didn't otherwise help.
I gather from reading various forums that I need to go back to the 2.1 version?
Do I need a goldcard to do this? How do I make one?
How do I know which file to use?
Is there anything else a newbie needs to know so I don't make a bad situation worse?
Thanks!

I think you should first downgrade to 2.1.
Also you are going to need a Goldcard, but i don't
know if you can make it without the phone working properly.
Try to find and install branded RUU in order to make the phone work and then proceed with making the goldcard and debranding.

Thanks for the links!
I'll take a deep breath and have a go. Looks like I'll need to get a microSD adaptor first.

It's better to start by searching a branded RUU suitable for your phone. At this point your phone's SD slot is unusable so you won't be able to make the goldcard.
IMO sd adapter is not needed, you might use the phone as a card reader (assuming that you have installed the branded RUU).

So I don't need a goldcard to install the RUU?

No but it has to be 2.2 and branded. I think it is also safe to try to install previous versions if you are not able to find a 2.2 RUU. Don't forget to check tel company's site, here and here.

I'd recommend you root the phone (no goldcard required) and install a custom rom (mine will work). That will get the phone running normally again, then you can create a goldcard and run official unrooted software if you want.

teppic74 said:
I'd recommend you root the phone (no goldcard required)
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SD card is required so you are going to need a card reader, as you can't use your phone at this moment. Or you can try unrevoked.

The r6 root method is obsolete now, and shouldn't be used. unrevoked3 might not work, it depends on how far the upgrade got before failing.

How would I root the phone? Do I use the usb cable and run a file?
If I shouldn't use unrevoked where can I find one I can safely use? It's all new to me.

Unrevoked is what you should use. You need to enable USB debugging and run the file.
If it works you'll end up in custom recovery, where you can install a rooted ROM.

I was downloading an RUU from TMO, but it was taking forever so I guess I won't be doing anything until tomorrow when I have a faster connection.

If you have an SLCD screen then running that is really not a good idea.

OK. So do I copy the custom ROM to the SD card before I root the phone or do I run it on the PC as well?

Yeah I don't think I have an SLCD screen, but would rather not take unnecessary risks.

Yes, you'll need the custom rom on the sdcard so will need to copy that separately. Unrevoked3 runs on the PC/Mac. If you have no card reader it's possible to upload the rom to the sdcard while in recovery, but it's a bit fiddly.
If you're certain you have an AMOLED screen then the t mobile RUU should work.

My phone came in July so I think it's AMOLED.
Looks like unrevoked3 is down at the moment with a redirect to unrevoked2.
I should be able to get the ROM on the SD card with a friend's non-android phone. Do I need a goldcard though as that may be a problem with my phone down.

Just follow the link to download version 3.14 (it's still unrevoked3).
No goldcard is needed to root or install a custom rom.

OK. Thanks for your patience! I guess I need to rename the ROM update.zip as I've seen mentioned elsewhere before I save it to the SD card.
I'll give it a go and post the results once I'm done , tomorrow I hope

You don't need to rename it. That's just for stock recovery. In custom recovery you get a basic filemanager where you can select the file.

[Q] risks vs advantages of S-OFF'ing

I've been pondering whether or not to S-OFF my desire for a little while now but I'm not really sure if I should do it or not. Specifically because I can't find the risks of doing it (maybe I'm not looking hard enough though) and the potential benefits of doing it(i've seen some cool stuff such as widget locker themes but not much else).
If somebody could give me a good idea of whether or not it is worth it it'd be much appreciated
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the pros are that you will have r/w access to phone instead of r/o. also you can change your boot partitions to have more free internal memory.
but if you do not know what you're doing you can potentially brick your phone.
if you do so always check md5sums of downloaded files to avoid corrupted files.
jacketyjoe said:
I've been pondering whether or not to S-OFF my desire for a little while now but I'm not really sure if I should do it or not. Specifically because I can't find the risks of doing it (maybe I'm not looking hard enough though) and the potential benefits of doing it(i've seen some cool stuff such as widget locker themes but not much else).
If somebody could give me a good idea of whether or not it is worth it it'd be much appreciated
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mariosraptor said:
the pros are that you will have r/w access to phone instead of r/o. also you can change your boot partitions to have more free internal memory.
but if you do not know what you're doing you can potentially brick your phone.
if you do so always check md5sums of downloaded files to avoid corrupted files.
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More internal storage is nice but what can I do with read and write access?
Is files being corrupted the only risk? is there any other way I can brick my phone (as in if I follow guides to the letter and the md5 checksums are the same).
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jacketyjoe said:
More internal storage is nice but what can I do with read and write access?
Is files being corrupted the only risk? is there any other way I can brick my phone (as in if I follow guides to the letter and the md5 checksums are the same).
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You get more internal storage through the r/w access, you can change partition tables, you can edit your boot animations/splashes and geeky stuff like that. If you're just a casual user there's not really any point in doing it, however if you like messing around with the ins and outs of your phone (which im guessing you are since your researching it), its a pretty cool thing to have. The only risk I know of is if you download a corrupt img that you're going to push to you phone or if somehow the connection between your pc and your phone is lost while your pushing the files, can brick the phone. So in order to avoid this make sure the md5 checksum is ok for the image you downloaded (use a program like hashcalc to check this) and make sure your phone has plenty of battery + dont trip over your usb cable while your pushing files

Personally I think there is no reason to S-off as long as you can't find a reason yourself why you would want to S-off. If you need to ask why you want to S-off don't do it. If you have a reason you can go for it. If you follow the procedures and check md5 (which should be in the procedures) there is no realistic risk, but I know form one person that he had a BSOD while using AlphaRev and that bricked his phone. That is just bad luck and can't be prevented.
So yes there is always a risk that something goes wrong, but that is the same risk that you get hit by a truck when you go outside even too you watch out.
I take no responsibility for what happens even too you should be good.

Another thing... as far as security goes, keep in mind that when you s-off, any app you give su rights too, also has full unrestricted access to your device
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xp4nd3r said:
You get more internal storage through the r/w access, you can change partition tables, you can edit your boot animations/splashes and geeky stuff like that. If you're just a casual user there's not really any point in doing it, however if you like messing around with the ins and outs of your phone (which im guessing you are since your researching it), its a pretty cool thing to have. The only risk I know of is if you download a corrupt img that you're going to push to you phone or if somehow the connection between your pc and your phone is lost while your pushing the files, can brick the phone. So in order to avoid this make sure the md5 checksum is ok for the image you downloaded (use a program like hashcalc to check this) and make sure your phone has plenty of battery + dont trip over your usb cable while your pushing files
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Awesome, I'm still considering it. I know all about checking MD5 sums so you don't mess up everything, been flashing BIOS's on my computer for years
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Personally I think there is no reason to S-off as long as you can't find a reason yourself why you would want to S-off. If you need to ask why you want to S-off don't do it. If you have a reason you can go for it. If you follow the procedures and check md5 (which should be in the procedures) there is no realistic risk, but I know form one person that he had a BSOD while using AlphaRev and that bricked his phone. That is just bad luck and can't be prevented.
So yes there is always a risk that something goes wrong, but that is the same risk that you get hit by a truck when you go outside even too you watch out.
I take no responsibility for what happens even too you should be good.
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I can find a few reasons but I'm not really sure its worth the risk. From what you guys are telling me the only risks are that you download a corrupt file, you accidentally pull out your phone or a freak of nature. From what I've been reading I'd be fine to RMA it if something went wrong though wouldn't I? If it was completely dead (i.e. brick) they wouldn't be able to tell what caused it would they?
AndroHero said:
Another thing... as far as security goes, keep in mind that when you s-off, any app you give su rights too, also has full unrestricted access to your device
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Which is a good thing to have

jacketyjoe said:
Which is a good thing to have
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not if the application is malicious with full access they can do things like make calls without showing the dialer and send sms's without permission .....

AndroHero said:
not if the application is malicious with full access they can do things like make calls without showing the dialer and send sms's without permission .....
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Of course, if you avoid said malicious applications everything should be good
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Does flashing a new radio, kernel, recovery need s-off? How about partitioning my sd card with Amonra, do i need s-off? I confused with the s-off description and just want to be sure.

Ghettonine said:
Does flashing a new radio, kernel, recovery need s-off? How about partitioning my sd card with Amonra, do i need s-off? I confused with the s-off description and just want to be sure.
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Nothing of the above actions require s-off.
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Ghettonine said:
Does flashing a new radio, kernel, recovery need s-off? How about partitioning my sd card with Amonra, do i need s-off? I confused with the s-off description and just want to be sure.
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All s-off does is give you write access to security locked areas of the nand chip while the device is booted ......
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So you are able to use a Custom ROM without having S-Off? because i just rooted my Desire, and i didnt flash any custom ROM, but i do have S-ON, i thought that you would have S-off when you've rooted it?
Btw i rooted it with Unrevoked 3.22

mathiasb2 said:
So you are able to use a Custom ROM without having S-Off? because i just rooted my Desire, and i didnt flash any custom ROM, but i do have S-ON, i thought that you would have S-off when you've rooted it?
Btw i rooted it with Unrevoked 3.22
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you can still flash a custom rom just with an unrevoked root. To s-off your device you need to follow another process for instance the one here.

xp4nd3r said:
you can still flash a custom rom just with an unrevoked root. To s-off your device you need to follow another process for instance the one here.
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Thanks! Then I don't have to read up on that s-off, as I just want to be able to save to sdcard
Offtopic: do I need to download a special radio if I want to install the newest Leedroid? I'm on a 2.2 FroYo, with a 32.43.00.32.U_5.09.00.20 RADIO (atleast I guess that my radio it says in my baseband in software info)
- Mathias
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It would be good to update to the latest radio, leedroids mini-site has download links and md5 checksums for the radios (make sure you check the md5 checksums, if it is different it can potentially brick your phone).
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Well, finally S-OFF'ed my phone, it was rather painless. The problem is that I can't flash the oxygen hboot because I can't get the Android sdk working
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[Q] Root access to install apps to sd

Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks

How does rooting void the warranty less than flashing a custom rom? Don't answer cause it doesn't.
It is possible to root and keep the current rom, but if you want to enable A2SD then it's a lot of work (not talking about the froyo crap).
So if you want A2SD is suggest you root with Unrevoked and flash Leedroid. Don't forget to make a ext partition on the sd card before flashing.
Disclaimer: You are the only one responsible for you phone, no one else!

You can root the stock ROM as TheGhost 233 said. You can also use AlphaRev's S-Off as well on it if you wanted.
As for me, I couldn't be bothered with A2SD so I just S-Off'd and then used the n1table to increase my internal memory. The ROM I use uses bugger all in the system. Also, you can move apps to SD card anyway if you have 2.2+.

gaz1888 said:
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
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No, I don't think you've made a mistake buying this particular phone....seriously....
As for rooting, use the Unrevoked method which is the easiest....Alpharev S-OFF works too ( I think you can't flash custom HBOOT images if your phone has the latest PVT-4 NAND..better check on that..)
Here's the complete guide from the Desire Android Development section of the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

Thanks for the replies I am waiting on phone getting delivered today from virgin.
I will post back when I get a chance to have a look at it.

I got root using unrevoked3 but my phone is s-on
My phone is on virgin branded and I presume locked though not tried another sin in it yet.
If I wanted to flash leedroid Rom onto phone what steps would I have to do
I put on setcpu so that seems to have helped battery life but would like custom Rom on
Thanks
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Hold on wait a minute you don't have to flash a new ROM at all your v-mobile phone should be on froyo (android 2.2) current software version 2.22.351.3 which already lets you put some apps onto your sd card at the moment i only have 3 downloaded apps that are on phone only mode.
[edit] you can also add downloaded apps from computer to sd card and install with Astro - Every one that i have done this with enabled move to sd and i still have 98mb of space to store more apps (even with the ones that are installed by v-mobile)

Thanks for reply yes it is on new update but I thought some of the modded roms were using less battery power so I wanted to know how to install one.
I have rooted using unrevoked 3 but i notice my phone is s-on
Just wanted to know if someone could advise me on the steps to do this or point me to a guide.
Will look at that astro as well thanks.
I have modinstall also

The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now

EddyOS said:
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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This is what i was thinking and knowing v-mobile if you can't find a stock ROM to flash back to may have no warranty. That's the only reason i havent messed with mine

Early version (2.1) are about so you could downgrade using the guide on here but I don't know if it'd work (depends on the HBOOT)
Either way, a gold card is needed