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samsung accessory page for the galaxy

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...one-accessories/index.idx?pagetype=accsubtype

larryccf said:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...one-accessories/index.idx?pagetype=accsubtype
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thats alot all accessories

kolyan said:
thats alot all accessories
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I'm assuming that was sarcasm. What they do have listed isn't in stock.
Apple wins.

I don't know whats going on with that site...It's been two weeks since I got the phone and about that long since I asked them to email me when the accessories would be back in stock....Guess I'm not the only one waiting....and waiting....and waiting......

3rd party always a good choice.

Thats why the Iphone has 23426245245314124451354134 items for sale for it. People support it and other phones have a few items and well get lost in the shuffle because they can't find an adapter that will allow the phone to dock with the toilet roll dispenser.
http://ipad.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ipod_toilet_paper_roll.jpg
I mean common if they have a doc listed how freaking hard is it for them to actually make them and sell them. They have to know we want them and would actually use them.

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Thats why the Iphone has 23426245245314124451354134 items for sale for it. People support it and other phones have a few items and well get lost in the shuffle because they can't find an adapter that will allow the phone to dock with the toilet roll dispenser.
http://ipad.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ipod_toilet_paper_roll.jpg
I mean common if they have a doc listed how freaking hard is it for them to actually make them and sell them. They have to know we want them and would actually use them.
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You realize that there is only 1 iPhone for them to make accessories for each time apple releases a new model. And currently only 4 models period. Apple has kept a similar design each and every time, so to say that Iphones have 23426245245314124451354134 items for sale is a "thanks captain obvious" statement. About how many accessories did iPhone have 2 weeks after there launch huh?

Joe thanks for the captian obvious comment because I wasnt aware the iPhone hasnt changed much. My point overall being there will never be the support in the aftermarket world for any electronic device than the iPhone, but at the same time Samsung themselves who list accessories arent even selling them. Says two things to me. Its either a sells ploy to get you to buy their phones because look what you can buy or they are slow as heck to move on things.
Anyways I'm looking forward to some of their items, but I guess time will tell.

Who would be interested in misc. Android stickers?

I have access to a sticker machine and Im going to know around a few android sticker designs. I was wondering if anyone here would be interested before the stickers are made?
All different android styles, sizes from 1.75,3, 4, 6 and 10 inches. Prices will vary but shouldn't be more than 7-8 bucks MAX the smaller ones wont be near that, but possibly around 3-4 bucks. the more you buy the cheaper.
Again mainly checking on interest here. I have done deals in the past with 4-5 members and all went well. I have great 100% ebay feedback and I am paypal verified.
I would take payment thru paypal. If you're going to send it via paypal then add the 4% fee to the final cost. OR you can pay via paypal using their gift option ( it send money fee free! ) then do not add the 4%.

i loveee pics!

haha I havent done them yet. but i may just do them. Im sure people will pick them up here and there.

I'm interested. Are we talking like cheapo ones or badass super stickers?

Die cuts. Like basic ones but I mean its an android how much more badass can it get? haha. I mean I have like different ones in mind. ANd things Ive seen off line. When I get some I'll report back I will only have a few of each style.

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Die cuts. Like basic ones but I mean its an android how much more badass can it get? haha. I mean I have like different ones in mind. ANd things Ive seen off line. When I get some I'll report back I will only have a few of each style.
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I meant like the cheap ones that are like paper or badass like a bumper sticker.

Drewmungus said:
I meant like the cheap ones that are like paper or badass like a bumper sticker.
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This is important, because I have dollars and you have ideas. You might have some of my dollars if your answer to this is correct.

Its going to be on 10year vinyl. Its going to be android figures ( if you will ) They are going to be diecut stickers.

I would be interested for one to stick on the back of my phone. I have an Otterbox Commuter case, so it's pretty bland by itself. Of course, I'd probably buy 3 or more so I have replacements for when one wore out. I might stick one on my car as well...

I'm probably going to catch flak for mentioning "the enemy" but a nice, tasteful apple-esque sticker for my car would be sweet!

i thought that i had posted in here already, but anyways, let me know when i can buy some. =]

I would not mind rocking one on my motorcycle helmet! Put me down for some.

SilverStone641 said:
I'm probably going to catch flak for mentioning "the enemy" but a nice, tasteful apple-esque sticker for my car would be sweet!
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FLAK!!!! Maybe if It had a Android pissing on it!

Too bad this is illegal. I highly doubt that you have received the proper permissions to be reproducing the android name or logo in any way. Get caught doing this and it will cost you dearly.
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eye4ni said:
Too bad this is illegal. I highly doubt that you have received the proper permissions to be reproducing the android name or logo in any way. Get caught doing this and it will cost you dearly.
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Jerk.
10 char

I might be wrong (it happens!) but I don't think the Android droid is an official logo. I have seen the dolls all over and don't recall any flack.
He can always ask permission too..

it is an official logo but can be distributed as "free" but with a donation. basically selling it without officially selling it. nice little loop hole. =]

I stand corrected. But yes nice little loop hole!

For the record, I'm not trying to be a jerk. I own a graphics company myself and own several of these machines. I personally know a fellow who was selling copyrighted logos as decals online, and one of the copyright owners actually came forward to set an example of this guy and sued him for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and won.
Do as you wish, just giving you warning that just because others get away with this, doesn't mean you will do the same.
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It's legal so long as you follow the rules of the creative commons:
http://www.android.com/branding.html
They explicitly give you permission to use and modify the android robot, provided you give them proper attribution, as is the terms of the creative commons license.

Demo phone? what is the problem with it?

recently my bud got his hands on a Surround, but it was a demo phone. He flashed it using the ROMs provided in the Surround forum section and everything is working great.
Now he's trying to sell it to get an HD2/7 or a focus, but he doesn't have the box and headphones... Posted on craigslist and he gets replies (posts it for $350) that meets everything and they're all up for the phone but when he mentions that there is no box, people just straight up say no thanks and back out.
what is the disadvantage of having a demo phone?
is there something I'm not understanding?

people would think that its stolen, and most demo phones dont work as they have no user interface or something like that.

bottom line is any phone that had or has demo mode on it and its not @ a store...its stolen...

that's it?
how lame.

froibet said:
that's it?
how lame.
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Since when is it lame to be a law abiding citizen?

I would rather buy a used Phone w/o boxes etc... than a Demo phone. regardless of price differences. I feel sorry for whoever bought it.

emigrating said:
Since when is it lame to be a law abiding citizen?
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nothing to do about the law, it's just the idea of not having a box makes the phone unsellable |:

I'm glad as hell people feel that way. I wish more people were like that.
I had two phone stolen just last week, a Diamond 2, and a Nokia. I got the boxes and receipts, along with the IMEI of course. So whomever stole them is **** out of luck, and I'm glad. Now if he sells them to someone, that person is screwed. And serves him right for buying a stolen phone.

bmazloum said:
I'm glad as hell people feel that way. I wish more people were like that.
I had two phone stolen just last week, a Diamond 2, and a Nokia. I got the boxes and receipts, along with the IMEI of course. So whomever stole them is **** out of luck, and I'm glad. Now if he sells them to someone, that person is screwed. And serves him right for buying a stolen phone.
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ones y'all are talking about marked "not for resale" or something ? haven't seen one of those yet

froibet said:
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I think it has to do more with the fact it's a relatively new phone without a box. If the phone was a year or a year & a half old it would be less of a problem.

If it's a legit phone (i.e. not stolen and allowable for resale) then he could always try mobile recycle sites.
Not sure where you're (or your friend is) based but here in the UK we have sites like fonebank.com
Only problem with them is they'll give you highly knocked down prices compared to what the phone is actually worth.
Oh and try eBay?
Casey

Wow... 350 for a surround? You're lucky to sell one for 220 around here...

z33dev33l said:
Wow... 350 for a surround? You're lucky to sell one for 220 around here...
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looks like i gotta get on a plane to texas to buy phones there. $220 for a surround is ridiculously cheap! i wonder how much other phones costs?
in vancouver, people on craigslist are selling HD2s for about 300-500 for a used T8585
- guess i better tell my bud to wait it out... there's nothing wrong with the phone anyways, and might as well keep it since it's a pretty attractive phone.. Or advise him to post it on ebay

Google Might Have to Appear in Court Thanks to Its Pixel 2 XL Display Problems

Saw this this this afternoon!
https://wccftech.com/pixel-2-xl-lawsuit/

Seen that coming! Include their partner LG wo any QC!

I've been posting that since last night, seems Google is treating the whole customer base as ignorant liars who are holding it wrong. And it's working as intended. Good luck with that in court. Especially when there's perfect devices floating around out there to compare against.
https://www.girardgibbs.com/google-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl-lawsuit/

Why is this even happening? Google is not forcing anyone to buy their product. If it is "defective" to some consumers, either RMA it or return it, done deal.
What's next? Lawsuit for no headphone jack?

The media creates reality rather adhering to the one we live in. The same cancer that got Trump elected and now cleverly uses as a scapegoat excuse can be applied to virtually any circumstance. Every article hating on this phone's screen has an abnormally high amount of buyer defense, saying the article is overblown and they love their phone which is very atypical behavior of a problem painted to be so endemic. Frankly the state of journalism is disgusting.

Google has extended the 1 year warranty to 2 years and has waived deductibles for their preferred care. They have already done more than most manufactures would. Sometimes products are put out that don't meet expectations but Google has stated they will address them and stand by there product. I feel these lawyers are just trolls looking out for their own self interest and not the public's.

nicastro78 said:
I feel these lawyers are just trolls looking out for their own self interest and not the public's.
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As most of them are.

nicastro78 said:
Google has extended the 1 year warranty to 2 years and has waived deductibles for their preferred care. They have already done more than most manufactures would. Sometimes products are put out that don't meet expectations but Google has stated they will address them and stand by there product. I feel these lawyers are just trolls looking out for their own self interest and not the public's.
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Except they're reserving the right to reject anyone's RMA they choose to for any reason they choose on the screens....it's in the warranty supposedly. I think that's why the lawsuit, because they will say you're covered now until the return period is over and then turn around and deny your RMA next month for burn-in or blue shift or whatever you're displeased with and then deny the warranty claim for any screen related issues too. Mine has the really blue screen at straight on and gets worse with any angle. I RMA'd through Verizon. They said their customers can RMA a device up to 4 times before they send you a different device of your choice of comparable value like a S8+, Note 8, iphone8 plus 256gb or iphone x. Either way I'm really glad Verizon customers are covered this well. Hell they're even sending the new device out while still letting me use this one, then send this one back in the new device's box! No complaints here, just fingers crossed for a better screen this next device. BUT the whole experience with Google reminds me of:
Tommy: Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside. Ted Nelson: Yeah, makes a man feel good. Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted? Ted Nelson: What's your point? Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times. Ted Nelson: But why do they put a guarantee on the box? Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of ****. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time.

whyme45125 said:
I've been posting that since last night, seems Google is treating the whole customer base as ignorant liars who are holding it wrong. And it's working as intended. Good luck with that in court. Especially when there's perfect devices floating around out there to compare against.
https://www.girardgibbs.com/google-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl-lawsuit/
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oh look, and ambulance chaser that thinks google is not going to RMA, or refund a device where someone just cant accept limitations or overblown issues. class action BS. how many times have you heard of google saying "go jam your blue screen .." you havent, if you are not happy with it, they are replacing and refunding, along with default extension on warranted items. this law firm may get slapped for not really knowing the issues.
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whyme45125 said:
Except they're reserving the right to reject anyone's RMA they choose to for any reason they choose on the screens....it's in the warranty supposedly. I think that's why the lawsuit, because they will say you're covered now until the return period is over and then turn around and deny your RMA next month for burn-in or blue shift or whatever you're displeased with and then deny the warranty claim for any screen related issues too. Mine has the really blue screen at straight on and gets worse with any angle. I RMA'd through Verizon. They said their customers can RMA a device up to 4 times before they send you a different device of your choice of comparable value like a S8+, Note 8, iphone8 plus 256gb or iphone x. Either way I'm really glad Verizon customers are covered this well. Hell they're even sending the new device out while still letting me use this one, then send this one back in the new device's box! No complaints here, just fingers crossed for a better screen this next device. BUT the whole experience with Google reminds me of:
Tommy: Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside. Ted Nelson: Yeah, makes a man feel good. Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted? Ted Nelson: What's your point? Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times. Ted Nelson: But why do they put a guarantee on the box? Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of ****. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time.
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verizon knows something about lemon laws
and as nit picky AR consumers that dont have a critical defect, it may be harder to get an RMA. having smear, tinny ear, burn in.... and it already being screamed from the soapboxes about "well known" issues with the device, most likely can and will get a replacement. if verizon is refusing, thats on verizon, and shows the clerk/manager has not been briefed on the issue.

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oh look, and ambulance chaser that thinks google is not going to RMA, or refund a device where someone just cant accept limitations or overblown issues. class action BS. how many times have you heard of google saying "go jam your blue screen .." you havent, if you are not happy with it, they are replacing and refunding, along with default extension on warranted items. this law firm may get slapped for not really knowing the issues.
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verizon knows something about lemon laws
and as nit picky AR consumers that dont have a critical defect, it may be harder to get an RMA. having smear, tinny ear, burn in.... and it already being screamed from the soapboxes about "well known" issues with the device, most likely can and will get a replacement. if verizon is refusing, thats on verizon, and shows the clerk/manager has not been briefed on the issue.
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Maybe you read it wrong or I worded it wrong or I read your response wrong? Google not Verizon made loophole language in their warranty as to be able to get out of RMA and warranty claims of screen issues. AND Google is refusing to RMA devices for blue shift, not Verizon. Verizon chat and floor supervisor told me google needs to straighten this out once and for all, Verizon is going through a lot of turn around and themselves afraid of class action lawsuit like note 7 was his quote. That's why the class action I think, from what I've read myself. The law firm is trying to protect those who may have these issues with their screen and not get taken care of by Google but see all these people being taken care of by Verizon. I personally am waiting on another device from Verizon, I'm not here to bash google just share my experiences and opinions on what may be going on and help others out. BTW I haven't told one person on here or in person to not buy the device or to join the class action lawsuit or that the lawsuit is a good idea or has any weight to it. I'm actually advising my dad to buy the smaller pixel 2. If google wouldn't have released those perfect phones from the factory so we could compare side by side this would be a non issue for a lot if not most users and google could possibly chalk it up as working as intended but when you see someone else's amazing phone the same as your blue one it's frustrating hence all the discussion of panel lottery again. I don't think this class action will go anywhere. But by all means I wouldn't put someone down who does join the lawsuit, that's their prerogative. Everyone values their experiences, time, money, priorities, possessions differently from each other. Side note is this all blown out of proportion? Quite possibly but we don't know yet. I look at the reddit poll and some 63+% have blue shift between 0 and 29 degrees and the Google manager I spoke to on the phone agreed that 0-29 degrees is not a sharp angle. Also it's been noted and said on here there's a huge variance in uniformity of the blue shift if it was uniform, it may be acceptable to most users. And lastly an acknowledgement of quality control issue and a guarantee to clean it up would go A LONG WAY to bolster the consumers confidence in their standing by and the handling of their devices. Also if Google were to change the wording of the warranty to assure consumers they're covered with blue screens and all the screen issues the law firm would go away.

My favorite finesse line from Google regarding the new warranty is the statement about not having to pay a deductible for warranty approved defects. I don't know about you guys...but I've never paid anything for an issue with something that was inside warranty. It's as smooth a line as items in the grocery store labeled sugar/gluten/fat/etc free when what is packaged naturally has no sugar/gluten/fat/etc. Google drippin' in finesse.:laugh::silly:

What are the earbuds that with the G5 in your country this crap too?

I'm pretty okay with all the rest of this phone, however the earbuds have really disappointed me, so much less than I expected from Motorola, they use to bundle better earbuds with their phones back in the days it was owned by Google (and prior to that).
Now they're shipping the Moto G5 with a pair of plasticky chinese rubbish, of which the only positive point is that it fits correctly into my ears, however all the rest sucks, the sound quality sucks, the build and the design sucks completely, the cord sucks... everything...
I don't know if it's only the Brazilian version, but I can buy a better pair of easbuds for about $5 in any store... I'm pretty sure of that, take a look at it, the most shameless and crappy - and the most chinese too, I suspect - buds I ever had...

Any phone Iv even bought the headphones are not very good quality - remember you are buying a phone not some headphones - if they provide high quality headphones the price of the phone will go up. I don't know about you but I would rather have the money I'm spending invested in the phone & not gimmicks that come with it.
Since this phone has a headphone jack you can buy your own quality headphones to use across all your current and future devices

Mine didn't even come with headphones and I paid like USD 320 for it, so feel lucky about it.

Most of the budget moto phones comes with the crappy headphone you received. I received the same with Moto E4 Plus.

LOL
I really do not know why you people are complaining about. You bought a Phone the headsets are a bonus and this happens with a lot of phones. Ex: The cameras from every phones are a joke when compared with professional cameras.

TheFixItMan said:
Any phone Iv even bought the headphones are not very good quality - remember you are buying a phone not some headphones - if they provide high quality headphones the price of the phone will go up. I don't know about you but I would rather have the money I'm spending invested in the phone & not gimmicks that come with it.
Since this phone has a headphone jack you can buy your own quality headphones to use across all your current and future devices
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What you said is pretty obvious, I already knew that a priori, that is, even if you didn't ever say anything, I would already know it.
It surprises me that nowadays in the internet forums it's like this: you write a post or a rant and someone comes with sideline comments that don't aim at the addressed issue's core. In other words, they answer your question, except for they didn't answer your question. Your comment seems totally irrelevant to the question I asked, seems more like it's attempt on bashing on me?
But maybe you misunderstood my purpose, so let me further clarify the purpose of my question, lest one misunderstands me once again.
I wrote this just because in the past I had other Motorola phones that came with at least regular or good phones, and now they're shipping with this crappy one. It goes all back to the P2K and the EZX eras. I had the Rokr E1, Rokr W5, Rokr E2, Rokr Z6, then the classy Razr V8. Now, this is the first time I buy a brand new Motorola phone in Android times, and having admired the brand for so much time, and having PAID MONEY for it, have you the right to say, be it in the internet, that I'm surprised (not angry or mad about that though :good of how crappy it is that they have included so cheap an accessory with their latest phone, an accessory so cheap that it probably didn't cost them a dollar, one that would have been better not to be included in the pack, IMO.
So point one is: this post is a rant and maybe an opportunity for discussion on the topic, which, as far as I know, are legal modalities in this community.
Point two is just the core of my question, the source of my quenches and doubts, which by the way moved my human nature with the deep necessity to ask other people if they are experiencing the same thing and if they have the same opinion, which by the way is completely legal in this community as well.
So point #2: I wished to know if it was only in Brazil that Motorola were shipping these earbuds, in other words if it was standard practice or not.
Now, as you see, when people ask things they have underlying reasons to do so, even if it - to your very eyes - looks absolutely like they don't.
So take no offense, just as I intend not to take any from you, or from anyone else in the internet. I encourage you to take my sarcasm as cold reasoning, of which the intention is to be a corrective measure, in search of one thing that we have a need for nowadays, that is, politeness in the internet...
XJeFX said:
Mine didn't even come with headphones and I paid like USD 320 for it, so feel lucky about it.
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Woah, that I wanted to know.
Where do you live?
(And indeed you paid a bit more than I did on mine, even if not much)
Pragnan Saha said:
Most of the budget moto phones comes with the crappy headphone you received. I received the same with Moto E4 Plus.
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Yeah, it feels it is standard practice.
I was going to buy the Lenovo K6, don't know how the healthy and active is the developer's community for that device though.

Dam0y said:
I really do not know why you people are complaining about. You bought a Phone the headsets are a bonus and this happens with a lot of phones. Ex: The cameras from every phones are a joke when compared with professional cameras.
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You're answering my question with the same sort of answer the first friend above has done it. Read my answer to his comment then you will understand why I have asked this question.
Goodbye and have a nice day.
Thank you for answering my question

freeZbies said:
So point one is: this post is a rant and maybe an opportunity for discussion on the topic, which, as far as I know, are legal modalities in this community.
Point two is just the core of my question, the source of my quenches and doubts, which by the way moved my human nature with the deep necessity to ask other people if they are experiencing the same thing and if they have the same opinion, which by the way is completely legal in this community as well.
So point #2: I wished to know if it was only in Brazil that Motorola were shipping these earbuds, in other words if it was standard practice or not.
Now, as you see, when people ask things they have underlying reasons to do so, even if it - to your very eyes - looks absolutely like they don't.
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Yes these discussions are perfectly fine however discussions really belong in the general section but I understand why you may have posted in the question and answer section
Yes these earphones are shipped with UK models too
In actual fact they are probably better than Samsung headphones which shipped with their galaxy phones as they are an even worse & more uncomfortable plastic
Goes back to my point of companies really just include these for testing purposes - to say here's some headphones so you can check all the phones hardware & functionality works. Because what they don't want is someone saying my headphone jack is faulty & they go well did you test it when you purchased it & the customer goes no I didn't have any headphones. Imagine if this complaint happened months after they bought it. In UK law technically its the retailer that should sort it but its a grey area & alot of hassle - after a year & the warranty is gone you have no chance without paying.
I know all that is a bit extreme but really it's the manufacturer saying well we gave you all the tools to test the product to make sure it works so we can provide a high level of customer service.
They may have been better quality in the past however with rising costs & the manufacturers wanting to keep prices low they look at how they can cut costs & remain competitive whilst keeping a quality product. At the end of the day as I said before you are buying a phone so anything else they can cut back on they will.