Hi guys!
I've always been the kind to know what he's doing before actually trying, not to add I'm the techy-kind, so I've always liked to download ROM's on my PC, maybe add / remove some apps, then flash with my clockworkmod recovery (I'm using the 2.5.0.7 that came with unrevoked).
I've mostly been using a few very stable ROM's (CM7, redux, DeFrost are the main entries on my list) since I need to have a reliable phone, but I'm having a bit of spare time and decided to go play a little bit, so I downloaded some stuff I find interesting and started trying it out, then moving on to the next one. This is when I thought ROM Manager, which has been sitting on my phone without ever being used from the day I rooted, could actually be useful, making my life a bit easier
I'm saying this because I was reading the thread on Cool's AceS, where he says it's easiest when done from ROM Manager, as all the add-ons are listed there, so it's much simpler than using a PC. Willing to give it a try, I started the app, only to see it tell me I need to flash CWM through ROM Manager to use it I've read a few threads by people asking about the same thing: 'I already have CWM installed. Should I let it do it?' But most of the replies were like 'Yes.' or 'Yes. If you don't like it, flash another recovery afterwards.', and I'm not quite happy with them.
Now, the problem is that I am S-ON, because I don't feel quite well about S-OFF-ing my phone, mainly because I want to be able to use my warranty should anything happen.
So the question is, should I click 'Yes' to let ROM Manager flash me CWM again? What happens if something goes wrong, how do I get back to what I have now, since I don't want to S-OFF to do fastboot flash recovery? Is there a way of making it see I already have clockworkmod installed? Or should I just leave my curiosity aside and keep flashing through recovery and ignore ROM Manager?
Thank you!
P.S. Sorry for making you read such a long novel
I'm pretty sure that clicking that button in rom manager just flashes a new version of rom manager temporarily. When you boot up next it will revert to your old version. The only way to change your recovery permanently is to push it via adb.
So in short, "flashing" a new recovery via rom manager is not going to do anything permanent to your phone, so no worries.
So, can u show me the way please? Thx.
if you do S-Off your phone you can always revert to S-On by using an RUU that matches your phone.
ROM Manager can be problematic as it fake flashes a version of CWM that isn't compatible with all Desires(I can't use the CWM 2.5.0.7 that comes with ROM Manager, I can only use CWM 2.5.1.8).
imo your always better off to flash using and flashing a proper recovery, not ROM Manager as it's not always the right way for your specific phone (depending on HBoot).
| AmonRa 2.0.1 | PVT4 40000 S-Off Alpharev 1.8| HBoot 0.93.1000 | Radio 5.17.05.08 | LeeDroid 3.0.2 (A2SD) | HTC Desire A8181 | UOT Kitchen Mods |
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I am a bit confused about what to do now. First off.. I have the Evo rooted with OS 2.1 but recently I just found out that 2.2 has been rooted. So now I just need to know what to do to get rooted 2.2. I read on some searches I did that I can just flash a 2.2 rom and that would be fine but I am a little concern about doing it that way. I was wondering if I need to UNROOT then download the over the air update that sprint has to get 2.2 then start my root process from there or is there a guide that someone can link me to in order for me to proceed? Thanks for your input.
Just find a rooted stock rom in the Development forums (or experiment with a custom rom. There are several that don't lose any functionality these days). Do a nandroid backup, and a Titanium backup of your apps and data before since I think you will need to do a data and dalvik cache wipe.
The alternative you proposed would probably take you all day and it would still wipe!
Think of it this way. All of the 2.2 ROMS you flash is just like an upgrade from Sprint. If you flash the 2.2 OTA ROM its the same thing as getting from Sprint, but you don't lose root user access. Hope this clears it up a little. No need to jump through all the hoops you referenced.
So its has been a while since I did anything with my phone so I had to youtube how to flash a rom. When I get to the part where I select recovery it goes to a screen with a phone image with a red ! mark on it. What does that mean? Maybe I might just take path of unrooting this 2.1 and upgarding to 2.2 then root from there? Can someone direct me which steps to take? thanks
Whatever you do.....DON'T FLASH YOUR RADIO AND WIFI. You'll be screwed. Has taken me 24 hours + to get my ability to tether wirelessly back on my rooted 2.2 (I'm not complaining. the rooted 2.2 ROM is freagin awesomeness!)Just in case you do by accident there's lots of info out there on how to try to dig yourself back out.
Don't unroot your 2.1 dude.
ROM's are ROM's. It doesn't matter if it's 2.1 or 2.2, you can flash either one and flash back and forth between the two at your own leisure. Back before 2.2 was officially out for the evo, I used to flash back and forth between working 2.1 and experimental 2.2 on almost a daily basis. They always booted fine, my phone did not explode.
Reboot with volume key down, select recovery, wipe everything, flash the new rom, reboot.
You don't have a custom recovery installed, do you remember if your NAND is unlocked?
If you need to check turn off your phone and then turn it back on while holding the volume down button. At the top of the screen it should say either S-ON or S-OFF and below it an hBoot version. If it is S-OFF and ver .76 it should be simple for you to update it.
Thanks for the input guys. So I guess the final word is to not unroot my phone and just flash. Now to my problem with recovery mode.
Haus, it says S-ON and hboot is veryson 0.79.0000. Is this a problem? Can you guide me on what steps to take or what should i search for? thanks again.
still wasn't able to find information on this. anyone can link me? thanks
can anyone link me to where i should start?
well your going to want to make sure you have a custom recovery, when your in the bootloader scroll to recovery and click on it, if anywhere it says clockwork or amon ra, your set and then you only need to flash unrevoked forever to turn your s-off and then you can start flashing 2.2 roms from the htc evo android development section
if you do not have a custom recovery just head on over to unrevoked.com and download their latest for the evo, it will give a custom recovery and flash your s-off for you and youll be ready to roll
I tried and the problem I am having is when I select the recovery option it reboots and then shows a phone with the ! sign. Doesn't let me flash anything. This is where I am stuck now.
As mentioned before, you need to install a custom recovery on your phone. If you are rooted, then perhaps you can download ROM Manager and installed ClockworkMOD?? You can also change to Amon_RA as well through ROM Manager. Otherwise, in the unrevoked forever wiki, they do provide PC36IMG files that should install a custom recovery on your phone (take your pick of either ClockworkMOD or Amon_RA).
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever#reinstalling_an_official_recovery
Scroll down to "Reinstalling an official recovery" section and you will see the links for the PC36IMGs.
Alright so I just remembered what that phone icon with the red ! meant. I plugged it back into my win7 machine and ran windowrecovery.bat and I somehow managed to flash it to s=off. So now all I have to do is select the rom I want to flash?
Rom manager
if you have a custom recovery, then yes download a rom from the development section and move it to the root of the sd card. Boot into recovery and wipe your dalvik and data. Go bac and choose install .zip from sd card. Find the file you downloaded and flash it. Wait for it to boot up and your good. Orrrrr download rom manager from the market and you can do all this from there.
Hi everyone,
so i'm new in all the rooting stuff and have a couple of questions before i try it for the first time.
i learned that after using the unrevoked u get rooted phone + ClockworkMod. now what about that recovery? is it better than AmonRA ? which one should i choose? and is it possible to use unrevoked and get AmonRA instead of ClockworkMod ?
and if i flash official RUU does it give me stock ROM + no-root + no custom recovery ?
plzz help :c
Unrevoked can flash amonra for you.
I would suggest use clockwork for a while until you feel more comfortable with the whole process of rooting, flashing, modding etc
Clockwork is a perfectly fine recovery to use at first until you later require the extra benefits provided by amonra.
You can go back to stock by running an RUU, first NB!! check the rom your phone is running before you root and see if you can find that rom on shipped roms and download it. Also to consider: is your phone branded or network locked, if so and your exact rom that your phone is currently running isnt available on shipped roms i would suggest creating a gold card then.
dzumagos said:
Hi everyone,
so i'm new in all the rooting stuff and have a couple of questions before i try it for the first time.
i learned that after using the unrevoked u get rooted phone + ClockworkMod. now what about that recovery? is it better than AmonRA ? which one should i choose? and is it possible to use unrevoked and get AmonRA instead of ClockworkMod ?
and if i flash official RUU does it give me stock ROM + no-root + no custom recovery ?
plzz help :c
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You can try both recoveries, they equally function well. Yes, you can use Amon-Ra recovery instead of ClockworkMod with unrEVOked.
To flash back to stock, you will need a Gold Card and you will lose root and therefore not be able to use any custom recoveries.
1)my phone is non-branded and not network locked. do i still need to create a goldcard in case if i wanted to install a RUU and go back to stock ? (if this helps to answer i have an SLCD and this is exactly my ROM right now, found here ofc - RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release)
2)how do i make unrevoked install AmonRA (what i mean here is it fairly easy e.g. just pasting amonra.img instead of clockwork.img somwhere during the process or does it involves some fancy commands) and what 'advanced functions' can it give me that clockworkmod cant ? [maybe some tutorial that i didnt see ?]
3)which new htc sense rom would u recommned ?
4)after i install custom ROM the regular apps will update normally (i mean in market just like on stock), right ?
dzumagos said:
1)my phone is non-branded and not network locked. do i still need to create a goldcard in case if i wanted to install a RUU and go back to stock ? (if this helps to answer i have an SLCD and this is exactly my ROM right now, found here ofc - RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release)
2)how do i make unrevoked install AmonRA (what i mean here is it fairly easy e.g. just pasting amonra.img instead of clockwork.img somwhere during the process or does it involves some fancy commands) and what 'advanced functions' can it give me that clockworkmod cant ? [maybe some tutorial that i didnt see ?]
3)which new htc sense rom would u recommned ?
4)after i install custom ROM the regular apps will update normally (i mean in market just like on stock), right ?
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1) If you're sure you have always been unbranded, use the following RUU found here and execute it to revert back to stock
Note: HTC Sync must be installed too...
2) Make sure USB Debugging is on and then start UnrEVOked WITHOUT connecting your phone. (Right click > Run as Admin if on Windows Vista or 7) Then in UnrEVOked go to File > Custom Recovery and open the AmonRA recovery image file you downloaded. Then connect your phone and let UnrEVOked do it's stuff.
You can flash an alternative recovery with the latest versions of ROM Manager too: place the Amon-Ra recovery image to the root of your SD card, then open ROM Manager and select 'Flash Alternate Recovery'.
3) There are many great Sense ROMs, try them out for yourself and see what suits your needs the most (Hint: the most popular ROMs are normally shown on the first page of the Android Development section of the forum).
4) Yep, also, you will most likely get the newer Marketplace v2.26/v2.27 already incorporated into some of the custom ROMs too. You can also select an option within each app page within the Marketplace to have apps automatically update in the background when you connect to the Internet (although, some apps will still need to be updated manually).
And how do i check if my SDcard is good enough to be an ext partition for Apps2SD+ ?
You can use any standard/class of micro sd card for A2SD+
Simply create an ext partition (i use an ext3 partition) in ROM Manager of 512 MB and the remainder of the space will be dedicated to the FAT32 partition.
If you need to create an ext partition larger than 512 MB, use a Windows based partitioning tool or a Gparted live CD with Ububtu, for example.
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Yes, when u run stock ruu, you will be unroot and also ur recovery will be converted to stock
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ok, that would be about everything i had doubts about
thanks to everyone
I need help fast...
I got my Htc Incredible replace today and as soon I got it I rooted the phone and I use a custom recovery image to root.. everything went well but when I got the Rom manager from the market and now its asking me to flash a recovery but I dont want to flash to the v3.. I wanna stay with the 2.5 version is there any way I can flash a image with rom manager instead of flashing the new version..
thanks .
EDIT: re-read post.
If you rooted with the latest unrevoked, you should be on 2.5 anyway. The latest ROM Manager only works with the 3.x recoveries. So, either don't use rom manager, (Flash stuff manually) or upgrade.
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All the CWM recoverie are here. http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/
2.5.1.2 here, RM should be able to flash it.
http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.2-inc.zip
And there's always 2.5.0.5 PB31IMG.zip, via unrevoked forever.
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/recovery/clockworkmod/PB31IMG.ZIP
If you want the older version of CWM to persist, don't update it in rommanager. Note that when flashing stuff, you do it through recovery, not rommanager.
I have the older CWM, rommanager v 3.0.7, works to create backups. Use recovery to flash and restore.
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Welp
Personally, I stay away from RomManager. Have never seen something work in RomManager that didn't also work (better) straight out of CWM Recovery.
I am still on 2.5.x.x as well; 3.0.0.5 and 3.0.0.8 seem to cause WAY too much trouble, and there is no clarification from Koush that he is resolving those bugs.
I would love to see an answer on this. I can go back to 2.5 but...
Some of the newer roms require you to use 3.xx.xx Most say to use 3.0.0.7. I would love to but when I set to this version my phone shows no recovery. Just a black screen. I can still push the buttons and get the actions to work, from memory, but this is not a solution. Is anyone else have the "black screen" issue?
Great Offender said:
I would love to see an answer on this. I can go back to 2.5 but...
Some of the newer roms require you to use 3.xx.xx Most say to use 3.0.0.7. I would love to but when I set to this version my phone shows no recovery. Just a black screen. I can still push the buttons and get the actions to work, from memory, but this is not a solution. Is anyone else have the "black screen" issue?
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I think 3.0.0.7 had an SLCD issue. You must have an SLCD Incredible. You might try 3.0.0.8, I believe it works fine with the newer Incredibles.
Hi All,
I have a question about cmw's recovery and the rom manager. In the dev forum, theres cmw 3.1.0.1, which i've downloaded. However, rom manager keeps telling me the latest is 2.5.0.7. So im curious which one i should actually be using?
Reason I ask is because i've been getting a few odd problems flashing rcmix on my phone. Generally it will work properly (coming from a stock 2.2 rom), though from any other rom it wont. I know that if i flash something like insertcoin, reboot to recovery, wipe/reset, install rcmix it never works. Same goes for when i come from rcmix 1.5 to 1.6 (and 1.7). I assume its got something to do with the a2sd partition, but im not sure what or why cmw recovery is not wiping that jumping between versions of rcmix end with a total failure (stuck at boot logo forever). Quite often this happens with other roms too (like going from rcmix -> insertcoin or oxygen).
Mines a desire lcd, often running stock 2.2 at the moment (rooted, s-off'd) and the standard hboot.
Officially the Desire had the latest recovery version of 2.5.0.7 or what ever it is. 3.1.0.1 is a build built from the source unofficially. V3 has a new type of script and so might help with your issues.
Tbh I hate rom manager because it doesn't work well. Try manually flashing roms. It might help even more.
Swyped...
Same here. RomManager doesn't offer 3.x.x.x versions. You'll habe to flash it manually via Fastboot (for S-OFF) or with Unrevoked (for S-ON).
I actually dont use rom manager for flashing roms and the only reason i went to it was cause I couldnt find a consistent way of finding the lastest clockworkmod recovery image (theres alot of conflicting info out there).
Thanks for the info though, was handy to know. Interestingly, the version rom manager booted me into (boots off update.zip from the sdcard?) was older then the one i had.
Shihan said:
I actually dont use rom manager for flashing roms and the only reason i went to it was cause I couldnt find a consistent way of finding the lastest clockworkmod recovery image (theres alot of conflicting info out there).
Thanks for the info though, was handy to know. Interestingly, the version rom manager booted me into (boots off update.zip from the sdcard?) was older then the one i had.
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I have always stuck with CWM 2.5.0.7 - it seems to be the latest version that nobody reports problems with. I don't think there's any good reason to update to the newer versions.
Best ClockWork Rom Manager Version For Desire?
okay i used the latest original untouched once yesterday installed perfectly, however after doing a backup it crashed on htc start up loop. i opened recovery and re flashed my backup all worked okay but am now wondering what if something happens when installing a custom rom. what is the best version to use.
thanks
Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
xybadog said:
Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
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thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
kuljit55 said:
thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
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ROM Manager is made by ClockworkMod devs. It's an application, a standalone app whereas ClockworkMod is a recovery and this is what you would use to flash the ROM. If you have ClockworkMod as your recovery you flash a new ROM using this procedure:
Do this first to backup your existing ROM in case anything goes wrong.
Then do this to flash your new recovery.
Hopefully everything should go okay.
EDIT: You can leave ROM Manager where it is, it won't affect anything you do in the above procedures and you may find that your new ROM doesn't package it anyway so you won't have it anyway.
for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
AssassinSvK said:
for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
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I've got 4.2.0.2 but I can't comment because I've not used it yet but I know I successfully partitioned my SD to ext3 using the version you mention (only because I couldn't get gparted to work).