[Q] Merge sms messages WM5 WM6.1 WM7 - Windows Phone 7 General

I would like to merge text messages located on 4 devices:
1. WM5 phone
2. WM6.1 phone
3. Another WM6.1 phone
4. WM7 phone.
How do I do this?
I would like for all messages to be merged into one file, threaded and easily accessed for archive purposes. I didn't forward my WM5 messages to WM6.1 because that seemed unreliable when I researched it when I first got the WM6.1phone and searching now still gives various processes and I don't know if any will work moving forward to WM7. I would prefer not to send everything to a Gmail account and have my data mined...so...how do I do this?
I don't have the WM7 phone yet, but will. And, I have 20,000+ messages... I know some messages I have are duplicates (on the WM6.1 phones) so would like for the process/software to check for duplicates.
I doubt I would want to load the whole file on my WM7 phone as I am sure it would slow things down incredibly, however, an option to do that if I need to would be nice (or on a WM6.1 phone). I am looking for something to be able to access them all on a PC at least.
Thanks for considering this!
G.

For your SMS messages on your WM devices, you can use this software to perform successive backups and restores from your older devices to your current 6.1 device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705. Start with the older one, backup then restore/merge to the next one, backup then restore/merge to the final 6.1 device. I would advise doing a separate backup on all devices just to be safe. Make sure you select the option to merge or add rather than delete messages on the device when restoring. Instructions are on the authors site: http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
On WP7 however there is no way to backup or restore SMS at this time, dont think there is even a way to sync to an exchange server so accessing your older texts on your WP7 device will have to wait until a solution of some sort is found.

Thanks efjay! I saw that post but was concerned that it was a little buggy and didn't allow for editing on a PC. Also, does it check for duplicate texts--couldn't find it on the author's page nor a search of the original post? I do see it creates duplicate contacts and appointments which isn't encouraging. Of course I can use any of a number of programs for editing on my PC once I get them all in one place but would like to ask the community's help first and not waste time. Have you done what I am trying to do?
Thanks again!
G.

I dont know if it checks for duplicate texts, and the backups I've done have been with emails. Maybe exporting to a text file will make it easier to remove the duplicates.
However here is something else you could try. Download a trial for Resco Backup, which includes a desktop tool to view the backup sets, you may find it useful. I had to use this to restore some emails from my WM device some time back when they got deleted from the server. See how that goes.

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Delete categories in the Contacts Filter list

Is there a way to completely remove a Category (either a default Category or one created by the user) used in the Contacts list and in the Contacts Filter option? Thank you.
Did you ever resolve this?
I too wish to remove some categories. Were you ever successful at finding a solution for this?
Thanks,
Dave
You can edit Categories using Microsoft Outlook and sync back to the device.
Yes, I did it!
I installed Agenda One software which is a Contacts manager. In the Options, you can edit the categories. Presumably you could just do this on the trial version and then uninstall it, though I found it to be good software and bought it.
davidgee said:
I installed Agenda One software which is a Contacts manager. In the Options, you can edit the categories. Presumably you could just do this on the trial version and then uninstall it, though I found it to be good software and bought it.
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Interesting coincidence. I had a problem early last year with a category I didn't create (Seasonal) but appeared in ThumbCal and AgendaOne. I discovered that AgendaOne was the only app which allowed me to delete categories and sent Seasonal off to oblivian.
Since then I have been using ThumbCal and iContact instead of AgendaOne and after a hard reset last week was again presented with "Seasonal" and a new one "Favorites", another category I did not create. I searched throughout my device and was going to try to delete the categories using SK Tools, but decided to reinstall AgendaOne today just for the purpose of deleting them. It's tucked away on my storage card so I guess it's not hurting anything.
FYI, both of these categories do not exist on my desktop Outlook and SK Tools could not find reference to them in my Contacts, Appts or Tasks, but did find them in the database; CategoryMainDB, in pim.vol. SK Tools did have an option to delete individual categories, but I wasn't sure what would happen if I did. AgendaOne was a safer bet.
The reason why your Categories did not appear in Outlook was probably because you were looking at the Master List, while Categories created on your device had not been added to it.
Mesquire said:
The reason why your Categories did not appear in Outlook was probably because you were looking at the Master List, while Categories created on your device had not been added to it.
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Possibly, but the first time I noticed this, in my desktop Outlook I filtered all of my present and past; tasks, appointments, notes, journal and contacts, and could not find anything referencing the category, "Seasonal". I opened and inspected every appointment on my device forward and back a full year, especially holidays which were generated automatically, and still could not find this mystery category. I was determined to find out where it came from and was dissapointed when I couldn't locate its origin. I only use six categories; Business, Personal, FYI, Holiday, Travel & Mobile (for contacts only), so its easy for me to keep track of. I have never entered anything on my device or desktop referencing the categories; Seasonal or Favorites.
I have synced three times since deleting them with AgendaOne and the mystery categories have not come back. I use ThumbCal and iContact on my device so I can't create categories. I am still stumped as to where they come from but at leasted AgendaOne is a solution. I hard reset and reinstalled/resynced everything a week ago so its not like a reference to these categories were in Outlook and then got archived.
Believe me, I would love to know where they come from so I can prevent it from happening in the future. Once I get rid of them with AgendaOne, they go away until the next ROM flash or hard reset.
Nice to know there are other ways to get the job done.
I find the easiest way to sort through Categories in Outlook is to change the view to sort by Categories (To change the view on Outlook 2003, for example, View > Arranged by > Categories)
That way any entries assigned to "hidden" categories can come into view and can be moved or reassigned.
Categories on SIM
Just to refresh this thread, if you have ever had a problem deleting unwanted categories and the above solutions did not work, take a look at you SIM card.
On my new Tilt2 I had four categories that kept appearing after a soft reset, no matter how many times I deleted them using AgendaOne and SK Tools. I checked all my PIM data and even probed my registry with no luck. And I avoided syncing for two days to make sure that desktop Outlook was not the problem.
Then I took a look at SIM Manager and found five categories; Business, Friends, Family, Other and Services. Business was already a category in Outlook, but I didn't want or need the other four. If you go to Menu/Tools/Group Name you can edit or delete any or all of the categories. I renamed a couple to existing categories in case I ever do want to dump contacts onto SIM and deleted the other two.
No more rouge categories.
Done with SKTools
Same problem resolved with SKtools/Databases/CategoryMainDB. Action/View content. Select un(desired) category then Action/Delete to delete that record from database.

Tytn to Desire ... Need a Bit of Help ...

Hey guys,
Justa few quick questions ...
Is there an application or something that will log all the apps I have downloaded via my account and list them for me, so when I do a backup I knwo what I had before?
Is there an app to list the above AND download the latest versions without me having to manually do anything (Shashimi for Android).
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
I sue S2U2, I like the Android lock screen BUT I like being able to view my texts/emails without unlocking the device, what options do I have?
Lastly, is there an app to automatically backup your text on a weekly basis and email it to your gmail as an archive? I want it to also ignore the previous week's text.
Am I asking too much L.o.L.?
O and O said:
Hey guys,
Justa few quick questions ...
Is there an application or something that will log all the apps I have downloaded via my account and list them for me, so when I do a backup I knwo what I had before?
Is there an app to list the above AND download the latest versions without me having to manually do anything (Shashimi for Android).
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
I sue S2U2, I like the Android lock screen BUT I like being able to view my texts/emails without unlocking the device, what options do I have?
Lastly, is there an app to automatically backup your text on a weekly basis and email it to your gmail as an archive? I want it to also ignore the previous week's text.
Am I asking too much L.o.L.?
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I don't have an Android phone yet ...and won't do until 7/8/9-April... but playing with my wife's Hero this is what I know...
You seem to have to create a level of Google account in orpder to purchase from Android Market and logging into your Google Account and going to Android Market will bring up a list of your previously downloaded apps.
I haven't found a stand alone app for this but purchasing your apps through AppBrain.com and using their AppBrain app seems to do what your asking. AppBrain doesn't seem to list all apps though - definitely missing UK specific apps such as Beebplayer.
I've had WinMo phones for the past 8 years and never heard of a facility to do this - if there is one I'd be chuffed to hear about it myself.
Dunno - someone else will have to answer this one I'm afraid
I believe that most backup apps will do a scheduled backup - Sprite Backup definitely does but to the SD Card only (no automailer), but WRT ignoring previously backed up messages I've not heard of this feature in any backup app.
I hope this helps to some extent.
Is there an application or something that will log all the apps I have downloaded via my account and list them for me, so when I do a backup I know what I had before?
aTrackDog / AppBrain
Is there an app to list the above AND download the latest versions without me having to manually do anything (Shashimi for Android).
AppBrain allows you to create lists on their site, so when you change phones or wipe it, you can tell it to reinstall the whole list. I did that when I moved from G1 to Desire -- worked like a charm.
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
You should ask that in TyTN forum
I sue S2U2, I like the Android lock screen BUT I like being able to view my texts/emails without unlocking the device, what options do I have?
Flyscreen
Lastly, is there an app to automatically backup your text on a weekly basis and email it to your gmail as an archive? I want it to also ignore the previous week's text.
SMS backup
P.S. sorry, I was lazy and did not include links -- google is your friend
O and O said:
Hey guys,
Justa few quick questions ...
I have loads of text on my Tytn is there an easy way to back these up in a rar file or something. I don't want to import them to the desire just store them.
Am I asking too much L.o.L.?
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You can store all your text messages online with Microsoft My Phone or else store them on your PC.
See also this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4713257&postcount=2
FabianNL said:
You can store all your text messages online with Microsoft My Phone or else store them on your PC.
See also this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4713257&postcount=2
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THANKS ALL!
Will have a look at this FabianNL as if I can export to individual files then I will be happy. To be honest it isn't a big deal .
Been playing with my Desire for a while, I can see the appeal of Android it's quick, big buttons, keyboard isn't back considering I'm coming from Tytn (as well as a Touch HD but that was BAD).
My next step is ... what programs should I "replace"? I'm refering to applications like mail, text/messages, etc the build in ones.
I am though over the moon with the device the text input ROCKS! I do have a list of applications I need suggestions on though ... I'm used to the following on Windows Phone so I need an Android variation ...
G-Alarm - A Comprehensive alarm application
G-Profile - easily change my profiles from night, work, home, etc, this would be great as a widget
Task Facade - A general task manager that will show all my running applications and let me close/switch
Wake On Text/Email/etc - As it says ... and stay awake until message has been read!
Lock Without using Power button - easy ...
That's about it for now
I use Klaxon for my alarms.
SMS Popup will turn on the screen when you get text messages (not sure if there is similar for emails) and can give reminders untill it's read.
As far as profiles, then would HTC's Scenes not do the trick? Failing this Locale can automagically turn on and off services and silent/loud the ringer based on various criteria like time and location.
You can easily switch to recent apps by pressing and holding the home key
And there are loads of Task Managers on the market for killing running apps
What does sense have for managing profiles?
Hi,
I would like replace my TyTn II to HTC Desire but Im not shure if I will be happy with Desire(Android)...
Main things which wory me are:
1.)Synchronization with PC with USB cable. I DON'T want and will not sync with google account. All I need is same automatic sync line with activesync. I need sync Contacts, Calendar, Emails(Configure which folders), Task's, Notes. Sync will be done with MS Outlook 2007/2010.
2.)Is possible set more than one email account? I need 3x pop3/smtp email accounts.
3.)Is possible disable threaded SMS/MMS? I realy hate this function.
4.)Is there any app which allow connet to windows remote desktop(RDP and not any 3rd party VNC or other)?
5.)Is there some app/pack which can work with word, excel, power point files?
6.)Does included browser support certificates? I know that opera mobile on WinMo do not support it, so I can't manage cPanel server, make payments(bank)...
I think that this is enought for start
Thanks for any help and answers.
Best regards, _Dejan_

Help needed with SMS WinMo to Android general

Hello Guys,
I just got a HTC Desire and I really like this cell phone.
But I have a problem with my SMSes.
Before, I got a HTC Diamond and I had allot of text messages on it.
So, I found a sollution to backup my SMSes from my Diamond to my new Desire.
What I did: I downloaded SMS Exporter 0.5 and made a XML file. I opened this XML file with my Desire.
Everything worked, I got my SMSes back.
But some SMSes (from the same person/number) are separeted from eachother. Sometimes I got 3 different conversations, but they all are from the same number.
So, my question is: can I join them togheter and edit my inbox?
Besides that, I got problems if I push the send button, it doesn't response (in the conversation screen). The only thing what works is to set up a new sms in a different windows.
I only have this problem with contacts who are "backupped". So, with new contacts everything works.
I really want a sollution for this
Thanks in advance,
Frank
The Netherlands
it sounds like the backup file is either not compatible or is corrupted.
i'd recommend deleting the sms from your desire and use a different program to backup your smses to your desire
This is very much possible, but the right apps do not exist at the moment.
I (actually my better half too) have successfully transfered my 11600 SMS messages (almost 3mb uncompressed) from several generations of WinMo phones (thanks to PIM Backup!) to my Desire using SMS Exporter v0.5 and SMS Backup & Restore. However, the XML file produced by SMS Exporter is not identical to the ones SMS Backup likes to "eat", so they require considerable editing (search and replace-mania) and some knowledge of what means what in the files.
Now, there are not many programs that can export SMS as .xml for WinMo (at least that I've found), but there are loads that can backup/restore XMLs for Android. Unfortunately none have the precise same XML setup as SMS Exporter so simply importing a SMS Exporter file will likely yield errors and issues.
I wish some code wiz would have a look at this and make a working solution, it should be pretty easy, even simply some kind of script could be run on a computer, to convert a SMS Exporter xml to something readable by one of the several capable Android apps.
Mac
Hi! Use sprite transfer. It's totally free and very efficient. I used it to transfer all PIM data and bookmarks from my HD2 to my Desire. Seems to work fine to transfer from Symbian, Blackberry and WinMo to Android. ;-)
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Thanks for the tip about Sprite Backup, thought it cost money, but things must have changed since I last used it years and years ago. If it works, we're golden (too late for me though)
I'm sorry, it's not Sprite Transfer as I wrote, but Sprite Migrate. It's totally free and available there:
WorldWideWeb.spritesoftware.com/Products/Migrate/Migrate-Your-Data-Now/How-To-Transfer
Replace WorldWideWeb by " www "
May help others...
Vulku said:
I'm sorry, it's not Sprite Transfer as I wrote, but Sprite Migrate. It's totally free and available there:
WorldWideWeb.spritesoftware.com/Products/Migrate/Migrate-Your-Data-Now/How-To-Transfer
Replace WorldWideWeb by " www "
May help others...
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thanks will be getting my desire today and i have been wondering how i will transfer all my info
i have over 17000 sms and about 740 contacts
tori007 said:
thanks will be getting my desire today and i have been wondering how i will transfer all my info
i have over 17000 sms and about 740 contacts
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Be prepared for it to start hiccuping when you try to browse that many messages. I've probably sent and received about 6-7000 with one of my mates over the years (guessing 1,5-2mb worth of text), when I enter that thread from the message app the device needs to think for a few seconds Need something like "hide (not delete) older messages", but I haven't found a setting or app that can do that. Checked out Handcent SMS, it's faster browsing messages and hides older messages, only problem is, when clicking "show older", it only shows sent, not received. Sort of takes the point out of threaded SMS.
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elbatross said:
Hello Guys,
I just got a HTC Desire and I really like this cell phone.
But I have a problem with my SMSes.
Before, I got a HTC Diamond and I had allot of text messages on it.
So, I found a sollution to backup my SMSes from my Diamond to my new Desire.
What I did: I downloaded SMS Exporter 0.5 and made a XML file. I opened this XML file with my Desire.
Everything worked, I got my SMSes back.
But some SMSes (from the same person/number) are separeted from eachother. Sometimes I got 3 different conversations, but they all are from the same number.
So, my question is: can I join them togheter and edit my inbox?
Besides that, I got problems if I push the send button, it doesn't response (in the conversation screen). The only thing what works is to set up a new sms in a different windows.
I only have this problem with contacts who are "backupped". So, with new contacts everything works.
I really want a sollution for this
Thanks in advance,
Frank
The Netherlands
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I used "SMS Migrator" (http://a.baole.org/home/sms-migrator)
Can I just ask why you want to keep all these messages? Surely all of them can't be that important! I get it if its a pretty girl, or a message that has some personal meaning, but surely you can't re read all of them!
Why don't you just create an website from the xml and bookmark the url? You could have a link for each contact then. In fact if someone wants to tell me what each xml category contains and its heading, ill knock u up something searchable in php.
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What are the best ways to back-up the data on my phone?

I'm going to start flashing my phone whenever any new NRG ROM's come out, but I don't know how to back-up all the data on my phone so I don't have to start all over again.
What programs are best to use? And how do I use them?
Cheers.
define data.
contacts, notes, tasks, calendar?
try outlook. or myphone.
though. there are others.
names escape my mind though.
ya men, plenty out there. depends on what your needs are.
some just care about messages, some wants to have all back.
maybe configuration of apps.
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I am using an small easy script I wrote in mscr, you can give it a try.
no good for messages but doing all the rest.
it works the way that ONCE you have to copy files holding configuration to SD card to dedicated folder, then it's doing it itself on scheduled time.
once you reflash rom, it will restore them all back. registry as well.
just back up your contacts to your sim and use Microsoft My Phone. Backs up all the basics, simply, quietly and not a problem to restore the info. It even holds your douments too. Should already be on your phone (the best part). I now never hesitate to hard reset if I want to do something
Cheers guys.
But stuff I'd like to save are the likes of all the settings. All my contacts etc. are all on my account on Microsoft's exchange server, it's just all the individual settings which i wish i could keep instead of flashing then spending half an hour doing them all over again!
daniel_lfc said:
Cheers guys.
But stuff I'd like to save are the likes of all the settings. All my contacts etc. are all on my account on Microsoft's exchange server, it's just all the individual settings which i wish i could keep instead of flashing then spending half an hour doing them all over again!
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that's what this script is doing, if you are familiar with creating reg files. and you are able to point out files responsible for settings in whichever app, give it a try. it's launging somewhere around on xda-dev, but i would update it if you like.
e.g. skype:
you copy application data\skype to SD\backup\application data\skype
and it will every 2 weeks copy them, again and again. It's done in background and very slowly, not slowing other processes, you can't notice. then there is simple restore which through config.txt herds them back.
for registry e.g facebook, create facebook.reg and put in SD\backup
just adding pim.vol will take care of contacts and calendar.
there is an option to add a file: "backup.all" which would mean that the whole folder is going there.
it's simple but what more I need?
hi guys
....... and sorry wich is the best way to back-up all he sms?
75ls said:
hi guys
....... and sorry wich is the best way to back-up all he sms?
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i am using PIMbackup:
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
it's simple, small, free and the guy who wrote it looks smart, he did the fdc task manager too, there is no concurrence in that one.
I've been using something payed and fancy and big before and it messed my messaging.
thank you very much i downloaded it and as soon as possible i'll try it.from the web site it seems very good!

What is MyPhonebook?

Got this yesterday after the T-Mob udapte. Its in Settings/Accounts & Sync. I cant find any widget or program for this 'MyPhonebook'. How do you use it?
I also wanna know, tried to do anything wit it yesterday but nothing works no idea what's it for
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Found it. T-Mobile has a free service that automatically backs up all contacts to a website - where they can be recovered if phone is lost or stolen.
Edit: Tried to activate it on T-mobile website... but HTC Desire is not on the list available for this service. Will it be activated in future... will ask next time I call customer service... :/
So I just rang up T-Mobile about this - typically useless response saying "we don't support this" and "you'll need to contact HTC". Now I could be wrong here, but isn't this T-Mobile functionality that they rolled out to us in their last update? Maybe this will work on Froyo?
Anyone have anymore info on this before I send T-Mobile a rude email?
...anyone know if this will be working soon? Thanks
I'd like to know how to get rid of this. I am so sick of the way this phone handles contact management.
These are the files you have to remove I think.
[MyPhonebook]
/system/app/SyncMLClient.apk
/system/app/SyncMLClient.odex
[SyncMLProvider]
/system/app/SyncMLProvider.apk
/system/app/SyncMLProvider.odex
[com.android.syncml.service]
/system/app/SyncMLService.apk
/system/app/SyncMLService.odex
[com.android.syncml.shared]
/system/framework/com.android.syncml.shared.jar
/system/framework/com.android.syncml.shared.odex
[permissions file]
/system/etc/permissions/com.android.syncml.shared.xml
Hi,
I'm using T-Mobile but unfortunately on my non-branded HTC Desire Z the Software is not installed. Does anyone have an APK for this App?
Or can anyone recommend a sync/backup tool to save contacs (important: I'm using the field "second name" and some sync-tools don't copy this field)
Greetings
Heiko
What is wrong with the std. sync of all your google contacts? Have worked flawlessly for me since day 1, and every time i try out a new rom they are downloaded as soon as i enter my google account..
There is nothing wrong with Google-Sync, but maybe call me paranoid, but I don't want to have my contacts (including their mail-adresses) stored by Google.
It is known that GoogleMail scans the Mails to show ads.
I don't want Google to scan my Adress-Book for Mail-Adressens of my friends. Sure, they state they won't do it, but you can't be sure......
Using a phone-provider like T-Mobile is also risky, but I trust them more than Google concerning data-privacy.
Heiko
Hey HHLieber, I extracted/deodexed the apks of MyPhonebook from my T-Mob branded stock (Desire) for v2.1 and v2.2.1 (both tested with MoDaCo ROM r8/r9).
Could not say if syncing is possible, because I'm using Vodafone. If you want these apks, let me know it.
Another idea with syncing is an own funambol (SyncML) server (also tested - SyncML stores a complete vcard in database).
But if you use a "Desire Z" with Stock ROM, are you able to store more information than first name and family name? Because I've never seen a HTC Stock ROM with this possibility (contact type "Phone" - HTC Desire/HD/S, HTC Wildfire/S). Also I couldn't set a type of mail address like "private" or "work".
Hi cxp_,
I just checked my Contact-List and you are correct:
The Name is listed as Surname, Firstname Secondname.
But if I click on edit, I don't see the field for secondname nor can I edit the name as it is stated on the edit-view as Firstname Surname.
Strange....
I achieved this construct by uploading the contacts from Outlook to my Google-Account, then exported it as VCF-File and imported it to my Desire.
It was a great battle, but I have to use the Second-Name-Field.
Can you copy me the APK-File?
We tried it yesterday using MyPhoneExplorer. A Collegue has a T-Mobile-branded Desire, downloaded the APK via MyPhoneExplorer and copied me the file. Unfortunately something went wrong since I cant install it on my phone - nor can't another collegue using an unbranded Desire
CU
Heiko
Thats the problem of HTC. They disabled some usefull contact information fields in their framework. I don't know why, but it is totally stupid. I have the same problems, storing all contact information in one contact type (without using "google"). Syncing with funambol or even vcard export/import will not bring back all contact information. For a smartphone, very disappointing.
I talked to htc support in germany, first answer was a standard reply from faq or so that it is possible, second answer from an engineer was "ok, your're right...not possible but i forward this idea, perhaps an update will fix that".
So, even the new devices from htc have this "bug/problem with phone contacts". Some weeks ago, I flashed a No-Sense Rom (originally from nexus one) to my desire with the result, that all fields were available. So, it must be a restriction of htc.
Your problem with branded rom was, that the apk files (used for MyPhonebook) are deodexed. So you have not only the apk file, but also a .dex file. To transfer it to another phone, you have to merge them with the use of some tools an the framework files. And also you need some other files.
I attached MyPhonebook for Android 2.1 (Eclair) and 2.2.1 (Froyo). (Structure from root directory)
cu
Sebastian
Gosh! You're right.
Just checked it with a collegues phone: Samsung Something.
He has second name and so on.....
Hmm.... Can't you disable HTC Sense? On Windows Phone, Sense was just an add-on. I'm not so amused concerning the idea of re-flashing my phone.
Heiko
Without HTC Sense, you can't use any of htc apps (contact, calendar, messages..etc.). It is possible to remove Sense, but you will need the standard android apps.
The "No-Sense" version of MoDaCo comes with the standard apps and default framework. In "Sense" version you could also include standard apps beside htc apps, but this wouldn't help. In my opinion, the modified framework is major problem. Even with default android apps, I got the restricted version of contact.
So, I think without reflashing your phone, you wouldn't be able to add more information to your contacts. Funambol syncing and MyPhonebook are no solutions for you.
In my case, I only needed the detailed mail information and with MyPhonebook I can do this. But also syncing is a problem for me (Funambol).
I think, it's a problem of using vcard v2.1 for export/import and sync. Tested it with one contact (containing all possible information), only ~75% was restored.
Shame on HTC, In my case I'm not sure. Living with that disadvantage or selling phone and buy a LG or Samsung (rootable). Or a second trouble when buying new phone in the future and transfer contacts (with losing information)
Face it, with every new phone, you have to adapt to the functions of the new phone.
I used Windows Phone for many years, beginning with a non-touch-phone and then moving onward using Windows Phone 6.1 and later 6.5, always with HTC-Devices.
Windows Phone 7 is no alternative for me, since it looks like a blame copy of iPhone OS (only MS-Approved Apps, no access to the file-system, use of Zune....).
Since the App-Support for WM6.5 is vanishing, I had to change.
Android looked like a good alternative. And HTC-Devices weren't a bad idea either in the past.
Maybe you are right and the next phone won't be from HTC.....
You're right. HTC devices aren't bad and the update periods are quicker than from other manufacturer.
For you, reflashing with No-Sense Rom is an idea and the flashing process is not a big deal.
I consider about "living with the fact of sync problems", "reflashing with no-sense rom and the lost of nice sense apps" or "sell old one and buy something new".
Since my phone is up and running, I guess I will live with the crippled contact-fields.
Another Idea: Am I right that Android uses several Contact-Databases which are somehow merged? Thus would it be possible to create a new contact-database with the wanted field and then merge this new DB with the already existing contact-list?
P.S. I tried to copy your Phonebook-Files to my phone but had no success. Do I have to root it bevore copying the files?
No that's not right and wouldn't be usefull. (but thats not the problem)
Android uses one SQLite database called contacts2.db (before v2.1 - filename was contacts.db). In this database all information is stored, like contacts and call history. It is located in /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases.
The database contains one table called "settings". In it, there are all contact types your phone have (like phone,google,myphonebook,facebook etc.). Contacts are stored in another table with the hint of one of these contact types.
(table "settings" | columns: "account_name", "account_type", "ungrouped_visible", "sould_sync")
I tried to create and export a filled database from android emulator. Like it seems, there is no difference between emulator database and my database from desire.
So, the database structure was not changed by htc, only the api or something else what establish the conntection between database and gui (contacts app). One idea would be to exchange databases and look what stored information htc app display (all stored information including second name and so on or only self-editable fields).
to myphonebook: You have to use "ADB Shell" from android sdk to push them (no install from sd card or so). In fact of this, /system partition have to be writeable. The xml and jar file are also required.
Can't tell you, if it is possible to remount /system writeable with adb shell without rooting the device. (had done this after rooting process and included it in a rom)
cxp_ said:
So, the database structure was not changed by htc, only the api or something else what establish the conntection between database and gui (contacts app). One idea would be to exchange databases and look what stored information htc app display (all stored information including second name and so on or only self-editable fields).
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If the DB wasn't changed/touched by HTC, then it must be the Contact-App, which only uses some Data-Fields of the Contact-DB.
Then it should be possible to use some other Contact-App, don't you think?
One point remains: Do other Apps (Phone, SMS, Facebook....) have native access to the DB or do they use the Contact-App?

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