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[Q] Rooted Desire can't load AmonRa for Nandroid backup

I rooted my Desire using Unrevoked3 which flashed ClockworkMod to my phone. I tried and then failed to make a Nandroid backup. Looking at the error messages I realised that I have a PVT4 / erase size 40,000 model.
So I tried Unrevoked again and tried to flash AmonRa's recovery. I've tried it three times but the phone is still on CWM.
I want to play around with some different ROMS but would like to have a backup first.
What is the best way to get the ability to backup the phone? I have Titanium Backup Pro but understand that doesn't backup the Rom? Or should I just kiss the Rom goodbye and start flashing?

no i meet the same probleme and solved by using this one unrevoked 3.21 then i made a nand backup.
start alpharev to S-OFF and then you shoul be able to flash your recovery with fastboot

do a unroot and try to root your device again coz you have PVT4

nixit said:
I rooted my Desire using Unrevoked3 which flashed ClockworkMod to my phone. I tried and then failed to make a Nandroid backup. Looking at the error messages I realised that I have a PVT4 / erase size 40,000 model.
So I tried Unrevoked again and tried to flash AmonRa's recovery. I've tried it three times but the phone is still on CWM.
I want to play around with some different ROMS but would like to have a backup first.
What is the best way to get the ability to backup the phone? I have Titanium Backup Pro but understand that doesn't backup the Rom? Or should I just kiss the Rom goodbye and start flashing?
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stay on what you have right now if you need a nand backup
i had a similar issue and it was solved by making s-off and then flashing recovery through fastboot "fastboot flash recovery (recovery name).img"

You cant use unrevoked when you are already rooted.
To flash a different recovery, follow this tutorial.
I wouldnt just tell someone to S-Off - there is a chance to brick your phone and unless you really want/need to (flash hboots for example) I wouldnt do it.

Thanks Tillus, this sounds like what I need to do.

So when I followed the instructions to flash_image I get the message that image is not found.
Checking around the place I see that possibly the flash_image command isn't supported in the stock ROM?
Should I use ROM Manager to flash AmonRA?

Hi, you shouldn t try to ash an another recovery while your phones is already rooted and cw on it. As I told I had the same issue. Phone rooted with cmw 2513 but unable to made I nand bkup. I just reload unrevoked which has cmw 2518 and succeed with nand bkup. It s only from that point I started the alpharev hboot. So be caution when using different (cmw or amon ra) recovery. I read lot of ppl bricked their phone doing so.
Sent from my HTC Desire

nixit said:
So when I followed the instructions to flash_image I get the message that image is not found.
Checking around the place I see that possibly the flash_image command isn't supported in the stock ROM?
Should I use ROM Manager to flash AmonRA?
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No you should not since, it will be a fake recovery... Once the phone rebooted, previous recovery would be there.
sorry for spamming , can't edit from xda app
Sent from my HTC Desire
edit: back to my computer, try with this one unrervoked 3.21 it install cmw 2518 with this one you should be able to nand bkup

fragargon is right, with your PVT4 Desire only certain recoveries work, they are AmonRa 2.0.1 and CWM 2.5.1.8.
There can be problems using unrevoked once you have applied it once and then try to use it a second time to flash a different recovery. Look for an apk called zysploit, uninstall this and try unrevoked again. If that doesn't work, then use fastboot (which is the easiest way to flash a recovery).
I have the same model, and got there in the end
| AmonRa 2.0.1 | PVT4 40000 S-Off Alpharev 1.8| HBoot 0.93.1000 | Radio 5.17.05.08 | LeeDroid 3.0.2 (A2SD) | HTC Desire A8181 | UOT Kitchen Mods |

Great! I unistalled zysploit, then used unrervoked 3.21 to flash AmonRa 2.0.1. And it worked.
I now have a Nandroid backup and so I can embark on my new ROM journey. Thank you ghalalb and fragargon!

Hey good to read this... Have fun
Sent from my HTC Desire

need Recovery for HBoot 93 SLCD

Hi,
I have a TELUS HTC Desire that was already rooted when I got it.
It has HBOOT 0.93
I didn't know that my phone was SLCD so when I used ROM Manager to flash recovery, it messed up my recovery.
If I go into hboot, and press down arrow to boot into recovery, I get the black screen with the little phone and the red triangle with the exclamation mark.
I was desperate enough to try the ClockworkMod Recovery for the HBOOT 0.83 (ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1 SLCD)
from hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748618
flashed that on with UnrEVOked but didn't work. Recovery is still messed up.
I googled and searched for a week to find something for HBOOT 0.93 but I never find anything. Everything is for 82, 83 and 92. There are other people who asked about 0.93 in other threads but there are never answers to them.
Does anyone know of a proper ClockwordMod recovery img or ANY recovery img I can flash for my HBOOT 0.93
My phone is already android 2.2 but i would really like to flash to LeeDroid
Should I reflash my phone with the RUU to get rid of any dmg done? The only thing i'm afraid of is that my phone will be unrooted because of the RUU reflash and I can't find a way to root it.
If it's not possible to use UnrEVOked or Rom Manager to install LeeDroid because of HBOOT 0.93, I'm willing to manually do it.
But will the LeeDroid flash properly onto my phone if it's HBoot 0.93?
Does the flashboot thing when i boot into the HBOOT work for installing custom ROMS if I can't get into recovery? I noticed it will load images...but not sure exactly what the fastboot thing is suppose to do.
Thanks!!

HBOOT 0.93 is not the problem, neither is your SLCD. Use fastboot to flash your recovery, I suggest use either AmonRa 2.0.1 or CWM 2.5.1.8.
CWM from ROM Manager isn't the best recovery for your HBoot as I think it flashes 2.5.0.7 which is no good on your HBoot.
You can't flash a ROM from fastboot, you need recovery. Once you've done that, LeeDrOiD will work fine on your setup, but I would suggest you study up a lot more before proceeding, for one thing, it's easy to find a lot of info on HBoot 0.93 on this forum, secondly, get to know fastboot etc as you needs to know this for when things go wrong with cheat/easy methods like ROM Manager.
Take your time, be confident you know what you are doing it before you do it, you don't want to brick your phone.

Both of you need to know quite a bit more, but especially the OP...
But no he can of course not flash an unsigned recovery from fastboot without being s-off, and from the sound of the first post I'm confident he's not.
ghalalb is right though when he states that this has nothing to do with your bootloader version or slcd, and i really can't imagine how you can get the simple instructions on here wrong, but please simply use unrevoked via usb. It comes preloaded with a perfectly fine recovery for you, and also i believe you should really reconsider the decision to hack your phone with this little knowledge on the subject.
Also 2.5.0.7 vs 2.5.1.8 has nothing to do with hboot versions.. Both will work fine if flashed correctly, but the problem with just making rom manager flash the recovery is, that it is not quite up to date, so it does not actually flash anything. It just downloads an update.zip file, which loads the recovery when flashed. This fixed the problem of not being able to flash a custom recovery back before unrevoked came around. And to correct you on another thing you got wrong, yes you can actually flash a zip file containing something like a rom from fastboot if you are s-off. It will probably just not work exactly the same way, as the recoveries does.

That's interesting that you say hboot version and slcd has nothing to do with the ClockworkMod when other threads are very specific about which clockworkmod version you should use depending on your hboot and if your phone is slcd or not.
Also last time I did an update to the phone, it just used the fastboot. Didn't go into recovery.
I followed the exact instructions for unrevoked but an error occurrs when it tries to unroot...All I wanted to do was flash the recovery and not unroot the phone since it's already unrooted. So probably that's why it was having problems. But the recovery was still messed up after unrevoked did it's work.
I wonder if part of the problem is because I'm using a test image and not the actual production image for the phone. Which is probably another reason why the phone was already unrooted.
I'll try to reflash my phone using the RUU for a production image and try Unrevoked again just so everything is clean from the start

Trust me it doesn't matter. The only problem was on slcd phones back when they first came out, where cwm didn't contain the drivers for the new screen.
That is why it says it's for 0.83, as back then 0.83 was equal to slcd and all amoled models had come with 0.75 or 0.80. But now after the newer updates everyone is on 0.93 or so, and all newer cwm recoveries will work for both amoled and slcd. So no there is not a specific recovery for every bootloader, and there is no way a flash from rom manager messed your recovery up, as it never flashes anything.
And i think you might need to slow down and think about what you are doing? Because you talk about unrooting with unrevoked, and unrevoked will probably try to root your phone If you use unrevoked correctly you will have it working fine.
Also you say last time you updatet it, it used fastboot? updatet it officially? As then there is a reason you have the stock recovery. But try using the ruu and then go back to rooting using unrevoked or just keep it stock, as it might not be a good idea trying something without knowing what it does.
edit: and the screen you get with the phone in a triangle with an exclamation mark doesn't mean anything is wrong. It's just the stock htc recovery... If you press vol-up+power(or vol-down+power i don't remember) when you see this screen, you get a simple menu, which lets you flash update.zip and erase data.

mortenmhp said:
edit: and the screen you get with the phone in a triangle with an exclamation mark doesn't mean anything is wrong. It's just the stock htc recovery... If you press vol-up+power(or vol-down+power i don't remember) when you see this screen, you get a simple menu, which lets you flash update.zip and erase data.
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Thanks for your response I thought that the triangle screen was bad since I tried the volume stuff and I couldn't get to the screen.
But if that's the stock htc recovery, then that means the clockworkmod recovery wasn't flashed properly?
I will try the keys again when i get to the recovery state later.
Actually I was having problems with UnrEVOked because my phone was ALREADY rooted. So it was trying to do something that was already done which is probably why it failed. I only needed unrevoked to flash the recovery...I didn't need it to do anything else but the recovery.
What I have on my phone right now is not the official load. It has test keys and crap in it....
Anyways, I'll see if I can get into the recovery menu properly before doing the RUU flash to have a clean start.

Ok Unrevoked should work fine anyway though. It just flashes a recovery and the su binary plus the superuser app. So if you are rooted it will just overwrite them. Your problem is far more likely to be a driver problem.
I rooted the old way as well(the one only allowing test keys signed roms) and then i used fake flash from rom manager until alpharev s-off came along, and now i just flash everything but roms from fastboot, it's far easier.

driver problem?
I followed the unrevoked instructions and my computer recognizes the phone while it's in bootloader
i can also adb shell into it when it's just normally powered on etc
oh and to answer previous question, yes i updated to 2.2 using fastboot
i put IMG99.zip onto my sdcard
powered on while holding the volume down for fastboot
it went and found the image on my sd card and grabbed it...and asked if I wanted to update...and viola...2.2
my phone was...2.0 or 2.1 when i first got it i think...i forgot what it was before 2.2
that's why i asked if anyone just stuck a custom rom into their SD card and tried using fastboot before....seems like everyone these days use things like rom manager, unrevoked etc >_<
I would think that the fastboot would find the zip file and can unzip and load it just like how it did the testkey one i did before....but i thought i would ask before i tried....maybe i should wait next week until i'm at home and have sd card readers in case anything goes wrong so i can recover the phone easier lol

There is a reason why people don't do that.. When you flash that way via fastboot, it only allow zip files signed by HTC, if you are s-on, and those write everything on the system to stock, which means you lose root and custom/modified recovery.
You could potentially do it that way if you were s-off, but the bootloader flashing utility does not allow as sophisticated commands as the custom recovery does, so everything in the original roms is actually packed in .img files for every partition.

All good advice.
I offered mine as my Desire would not accept CWM 2.5.0.7 (to this day it doesn't), and it would only accept CWM 2.5.1.8 or AmonRa 2.0.1. (as they work on PVT4 with a 40000 page) As for unrevoked, the only version that works for my Desire is 3.2.1, the latest (which I think is 3.3.2) doesn't work on my Desire.
It seems the longer these phones are around, the more individualised rooting and recovery has become, so advice should maybe always come with a word of caution.
***this is what worked for my device***
TinyAggie, I hope you are getting there!

Yep new page size will require the modified cwm for it, but it still has nothing to do with hboot version. However the other recoveries should flash ok as well, they just won't work well for installing roms(gave some error), which he hasn't come to yet

ghalalb said:
All good advice.
I offered mine as my Desire would not accept CWM 2.5.0.7 (to this day it doesn't), and it would only accept CWM 2.5.1.8 or AmonRa 2.0.1. (as they work on PVT4 with a 40000 page) As for unrevoked, the only version that works for my Desire is 3.2.1, the latest (which I think is 3.3.2) doesn't work on my Desire.
It seems the longer these phones are around, the more individualised rooting and recovery has become, so advice should maybe always come with a word of caution.
***this is what worked for my device***
TinyAggie, I hope you are getting there!
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I found the same thing that only unrevoked 3.2 would work with my device.
I finally managed to flash the custom rom and is what i did to make it all work >_< Maybe it'll help someone else
I started with a fresh official load by flashing the RUU.
Then I used unrevoked that you can download from their website
I still got an error. CID missing. I go searching for it and it seems like a common enough error that the unrevoked team had addressed it
Because of the error, it was not able to unroot and flash recovery properly. The only thing it did was s-off.
So 2 ways to get root/recovery on your phone
1. Manually....find a PB99IMG.ZIP file that has root in it and flash that, then you can either use rom manager to flash the recovery or do it manually as well.
I created my own PB99IMG.zip with the recovery image of clockworkmod for desire using the android info .txt file I had in my other PB99IMG that contained the root access. Put the PB99IMG.zip into your SD card, go to Flash boot and let it do it's magic.
2. Easier way, get unrevoked 3.2 ... There was a warning for using it. Apparently you should only use the 3.2 version if you get the CID error.
But with unrevoked 3.2 it will give you superuser and the recovery image without you doing anything so it's easier.
So after I finally got Root, I backed up my sd card onto my comp.
Then I partitioned my SD card using ROM manager.
Once that was done, i flashed into recovery to do a backup.
After that I tried using ROM manager to flash leedroid...
it looked ok but it never managed to get past the splash screen after 20mins so I pulled the battery and rebooted
Same problem so I decided to flash manually.
Went into recovery and cleared everything then flashed the rom from SD.
Now I'm on leedroid
So far it looks exactly the same as the stock rom. It has everything I need so I'm happy.
I hope this helps anyone with similar problems.
Sometimes you just can't take the easy way out and have to do things manually

Got stuck at bootscreen after s-off need help[Q]

Today I rooted my HTC desire using unrevoked, then later I tried alpharev hboot reflash utility S-OFF on it. But it got stuck on step 3.
Then after 20 mins, I unplugged the device. Now after every reboot, I am getting bootloader screen. From that screen I can see that S OFF is successful. But am getting stuck at boot screen everytime I power it up. I found some members got round this problem by flashing nandroid backup or some ROMs. I haven't created any backup yet. Is it possible to fix this problem by flashing any stable custom ROM, from clockwork recovery menu.

Yes, why would you make a post for that and not just flash a rom?

Okay. Will try flashing a ROM. Will anybody recommend which ROM is safe to flash. I have rooted using unrevoked 3, s-offed using alpharev. Can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7

sthbr82 said:
Okay. Will try flashing a ROM. Will anybody recommend which ROM is safe to flash. I have rooted using unrevoked 3, s-offed using alpharev. Can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
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Try Oxygen, it's fast and light.

sthbr82 said:
Okay. Will try flashing a ROM. Will anybody recommend which ROM is safe to flash. I have rooted using unrevoked 3, s-offed using alpharev. Can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
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Depends on what your after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Big long list of all the roms to flash.

sthbr82 said:
Okay. Will try flashing a ROM. Will anybody recommend which ROM is safe to flash. I have rooted using unrevoked 3, s-offed using alpharev. Can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.7
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if u didn't get past step 3 then u didn't s-off . one of the things that interfere with s-offing is if u have a data2(something) script installed (with ext partition on ur sd card) , i remember it caused me troubles back then and i got stuck also on step 3.

I am flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074700
I haven't partitioned SD card yet. Hoping flashing this ROM wont screw up things with my limited 500MB internal storage.

You have just rooted.
I would recommend flashing this one... Once things go smooth u can try newer modified roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997

Thanks for your replies. I flashed the stock ROM,and later LeeDroid 2.4.1. Both of them worked without any issues.

Stuck in a boot loop - Expert advice urgently required!

Ok I really need XDA to help my friend out in his hour of need (Yes it is my friend, honest!)
Having become impatient with HTC's will they/won't they HTC Desire Gingerbread support, he decided it was high time to root his o2 HTC Desire GSM.
Using Unrevoked he rooted his handset and installed Clockwork Mod recovery. So far so good. What he didn't have however was S-Off - that was to be the next step. Before going ahead he decided to make a Nandroid backup. Again so-far so good. Then he decided to restore that backup. This is where it goes wrong. After restoring he is stuck in a boot loop (and he's tried wiping cache etc etc, so that's not the reason). He can get back to recovery (So I don't think he's bricked), but can't seem to install any fresh ROM's such as the latest Miui. I've got a feeling the roms he is trying to install are trying to write to /system which is currently protected due to the lack of S-Off, but this is at best an educated guess. So a couple of questions:
1: Are there any rom's he can install without S-Off being required?
(Were there custom rom's pre S-Off that could be installed? - If so can you link to one - I was under the impression that achieving S-Off only became possible at the end of last year, so if so how did or could you flash a custom rom beforehand?)
2: Would flashing the official HTC o2 rom through clockwork mod recovery get him back in action? If yes, I presume this would remove root and custom recovery?
I would add that he's fairly new to the rooting scene and ADB is probably a little advanced for him at this stage.
Thanks in advance,
Robbie.

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1: Are there any rom's he can install without S-Off being required?
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I'm no expert, but I flashed Leedroid v2.5 while S-on, without a problem. Download it from the thread (I can't post links yet, sorry, but if you put 768703 into the search box, it's the top result), put the rom on the sdcard (via pc) boot to clockworkmod, and install update. May not be an ideal solution, but maybe worth a try?

There isn't any rom which requires s-off.
Flashing the official o2 htc rom will set the phone to state before using unrevoked.
Which hardwarerevision does your friend's desire have? Check out this way:
1.) Download connectbot from android market
2.) Start it, set "local" and write any name
3.) Type
Code:
cat /pro/mtd
Now look at the column "erasesize". If there stands a 40000, your friend's desire has a newer hardwarerevision. With this the usually flashed recovery by unrevoked (clockworkmod recovery) does not work.
You have to flash a different recovery, amonra 2.0.1.
Download the img here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20471345/SUroot/Tools/Android/Recovery/recovery-RA_2.0.1.img
Then, start unrevoked, file>custom recovery>choose downloaded recovery. Now run unrevoked again. Now your friend should be able to flash things like custom roms from recovery.

[Q] Cannot access Clockwork on S-off Desire PVT4

Hello,
I'm a real newbie and decided to root my Desire PVT4. The problem is that after that I decided to go back to the stock ROM and here's what happened:
1. In the beginning I rooted it with unrEVOked.
2. Then I used alpharev 1.8 to turn S-off
3. Then I played with various ROMs after I backed up my stock ROM from ROM Manager (don't know if that's called Nandroid backup).
4. But this morning I flashed a different HBOOT (first one for Oxygen, then one for Cyanogen) to the phone and from then on didn't manage to restore the stock ROM at all, I tried using PB99IMG_stock from alpharev's website but that didn't work. The phone was still working.
5. So I decided to flash what I think it's called RUU which I downloaded separately. It loaded in HBOOT and said it cannot change bootloader (probably because I've left it S-OFF) but itand then finalized it's thing.
6. Now when I turn it on normally it loads the white HTC screen and then gives me a phone with a red triangle sign in it.
7. When I turn it on with the power key + volume down key it loads HBOOT but I cannot access Recovery to flash another ROM.
Can you tell me if there's a way I can flash a recovery tool? And if yes - is there a way to turn S-ON back on that phone in order to install a stock ROM?
Thanks

I had the same problem a while back. And I am still a noob.. but this is how I fixed it... I ran an ruu just like u did to fix a bad partition. When u do that it overwrites ur recovery partition an u loose root and clockworkmod. So now u should just be able to run unrevoked again an see if that fixes it!
Let me know if it helps!

Thank you, but does unrEVOked work when there's no access to the Android itself?
EDIT: I managed to make it run - just flashed the stock HBOOT from alpharev and then reinstalled the RUU from the HBOOT. But why is it running now, the phone is S-OFF and it now DOESN'T have root? Is there a way to remove S-OFF or it's not worth bothering?

Hmm.. I would have thought unrevoking it would have turned it to s-on.. but thats beyond me. I think if you google "Unrevoked Forever" they have something called s-on that turns it back on. but i dont think they have it for desire.. But you have to have root access and Clockworkmod i believe.

I have it running now, but like you said - couldn't find a way to turn it S-ON with Unrevoked Forever.

Clockworkmod recocvery does not work on pvt4 desires. You have to flash amonra recovery. You are s-off, so you can do it via fastboot.

Lol just a heads up. Unrevoked forever doesn't work for gsm.
Swyped...

Clockwork DOES work with PVT4 phones. I have one and, so I know. I used it to flash yesterday (if someone wants to do a guide on how to get Amon-RA, then I'm all for that, please post it)
Download ROM Manager, if you can get into your phone and you can boot to CWM from there.
When I used AlphaRev 1.8 to S-OFF it installed Clockwork for me.
However, there's a thread here that guides you through S-OFF'ing, and there's a bit at the bottom of the first post about losing recovery and how to get it back.
How to flash your recovery using ClockWork's image :
Download Clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 recovery image from official AlphaRev thread for bravo.
Move the file into "C:\android-sdk-windows\tools" (default sdk android folder's installation).
Verify MD5 checksum of the image with a freeware like HashCalc or something (IMPORTANT !).
Go to the main menu of your AlphaRev HBOOT (turn on your device with return button pressed).
Go to "FASTBOOT" mode.
Go to your computer and open a new terminal (Administrator privileges required if Windows Vista or 7).
Enter exactly this (without ") : "fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.img".
Now you will have a ClockWork Recovery image installed and working
Note 2 : If your device freeze on boot logo, apply your Nandroid backup that your did before S-OFF.. that should do the trick.
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you are still s-on cause the new alpharev hboots are made this way (so the ruu doesnt overwrtie them)
if you want to S-ON download bravo_downgrade from alpharev.nl, flash it using fastboot or PB99IMG method and then run a RUU
if you want to go-on with custom roms just flash new recovery image with fastboot and then a custom rom, you dont even need to root your current rom

Thank you all, your advices really helped me. Thanks!