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Epic have 2 different mics?

Do our Epics have 2 mics?
People cannot hear me on a call unless I'm in speakerphone. It seems as though they can hear me blowing into the mic during a regular call if I blow into the hole on the bottom right (plz hold the 6th grade jokes).
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I don't think we have two mics. I believe that the sensitivity of the mic is increased when in speakerphone mode.

Interesting, perhaps I have something stuck deep inside.
Or I have a setting snafoo, though I doubt it, since I have clean wipe flashed 4 roms in the past 24 hours.
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Anyway to up the sensitivity manually until I can figure it out?
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I had a similar (actually opposite issue) as the OP. When I was on speakerphone, no one could hear me. But when I held and spoke on the phone the traditional away (in other words phone up to my ear and not on speakerphone), then people could hear me. Tried reflashing EC05 then OTA to EI22 and that did not fix the issue. Determined it was a hardware issue. Ended up going to Sprint and having phone replaced (I had TEP).

I read recently, maybe today, that our phones have two mics. Unfortunately, I can't remember where I read that, so I can't back it up with a source! Based on the description of both of your problems, it seems logical that the phone has and uses two different mics depending on whether the user is in speakerphone mode or not.

This phone indeed does have two mics. The second microphone is used only for speaker phone, and is located in the right hand portion of the earpiece grille.
What's unfortunate is that although that mic is part of an array that includes the front camera and keyboard and is easily replaceable, the main microphone is on the board and requires the phone to be swapped.
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MeetFace said:
Do our Epics have 2 mics?
People cannot hear me on a call unless I'm in speakerphone. It seems as though they can hear me blowing into the mic during a regular call if I blow into the hole on the bottom right (plz hold the 6th grade jokes).
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This is actually a pretty common symptom of bad mics that come in to our store: no one can hear you talk or even yell, but for some reason, the mic will pick you up blowing in to it. I suspect its because your simply putting more physical pressure on the mic, but I've never been able to come to a good conclusion.
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squshy 7 said:
What's unfortunate is that shield that mic is part of an array that includes the front camera and keyboard and is easily replaceable, the main microphone is on the board and requires the phone to be swapped.
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partly correct- it's on the board with the keyboard, but not the camera, and doesn't require a phone swap. the circuit board can be replaced; i watched the tech replace mine, in store, in about 15 minutes. i was impressed they had the part in stock.
(no insurance, no cost either)

edscholl said:
partly correct- it's on the board with the keyboard, but not the camera, and doesn't require a phone swap. the circuit board can be replaced; i watched the tech replace mine, in store, in about 15 minutes. i was impressed they had the part in stock.
(no insurance, no cost either)
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Ahh you know, your right (look at me, the tech forgetting what the internals of my old phone look like).
BOTH mics are on the keyboard array...it's sticky on one side, and adheres to one side of a gray frame that nestles the motherboard on the other side.
Either way, your correct, the mic is replaceable. Unlike every other phone i work on lol.
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squshy 7 said:
This phone indeed does have two mics. The second microphone is used only for speaker phone, and is located in the right hand portion of the earpiece grille.
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Sinced I sit the phone on its face so the speaker is facing me, that might be why nobody can hear me while I got them on speaker phone. Learn somthing new all the time here.

Ugh, sounds like ill have to send it in to Samsung again. I have squaretrade 2yr, perhaps ill wait a couple weeks until my year warranty is up with Samsung and have then take care of it.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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MeetFace said:
Ugh, sounds like ill have to send it in to Samsung again. I have squaretrade 2yr, perhaps ill wait a couple weeks until my year warranty is up with Samsung and have then take care of it.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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Hmm..i could possibly help you out?
I may have a couple of harvested parts at work, if i can spare one, i could possibly ship it to you...if you feel adventurous enough to take your phone apart. Following my instructions of course lol.
PM me if you want
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This exact thing happened to me after toying around with voodoo sound.
Flash to stock and see if it fixes it. You will need to do this anyways for repair.

squshy 7 said:
Hmm..i could possibly help you out?
I may have a couple of harvested parts at work, if i can spare one, i could possibly ship it to you...if you feel adventurous enough to take your phone apart. Following my instructions of course lol.
PM me if you want
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Snap, I would totally be willing to do this, but I already sent it off. Plus, I still have 1 yr of accidental with SquareTrade.
digiblur said:
This exact thing happened to me after toying around with voodoo sound.
Flash to stock and see if it fixes it. You will need to do this anyways for repair.
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Digi, I tried a couple different versions of CleanGB, which do not have a voodoo kernel, so unfortunately I don't think that will have the same result for me...at least, I surely hope not, haha, I just mailed it off to Sammy last night.
Everyone, thanks for your interest in helping me.

same proble with my phone
Hi friends
Same proble with my mobile,
What is solution for this ?
Kindly help.
squshy 7 said:
Ahh you know, your right (look at me, the tech forgetting what the internals of my old phone look like).
BOTH mics are on the keyboard array...it's sticky on one side, and adheres to one side of a gray frame that nestles the motherboard on the other side.
Either way, your correct, the mic is replaceable. Unlike every other phone i work on lol.
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MeetFace said:
Do our Epics have 2 mics?
People cannot hear me on a call unless I'm in speakerphone. It seems as though they can hear me blowing into the mic during a regular call if I blow into the hole on the bottom right (plz hold the 6th grade jokes).
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My regular Mic went out. Sent mine in for repair and they replaced my Mic unit and it was fine.
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For those that have creeking sound on display's corners

This is actually not a huge issue to be honest but i do remember that it annoyed me. I don't think you can tell you have it, unless you actually check.
I was able to get rid of the creeking sound though. I don't guarantee it works but hey, it is worth a try?
Well basically i just played a game or used my phone long enough for it to get warm. Once the phone has gotten warm enough, i would place my pointer finger on the back side and thumb on the display ( spot where it creeks). Next i would apply pressure. Obviously you are not going to want to apply too much pressure as to damage the display. I have been doing this multiple times throughout the day and now i no longer hear anything.
ps: i even fixed the gap this way(had it at the top of my screen, dust would fill in). Now it is nicely sealed.
I will not be held accountable for anyone trying to apply pressure with a hammer
Good luck

Sounds very interesting, not sure if it would help anybody else. Sounds like some harry potter magic stuff
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Mine does the same and yeah it is annoying when you pay close to 600€ for such a phone.

So what you're doing is actually warming up the glue and so on..? sounds interesting.mine started to creek after a month of use. I think it's not acceptable for 600e phone

tadas_max said:
Sounds very interesting, not sure if it would help anybody else. Sounds like some harry potter magic stuff
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Well, believe it or not, as i was sceptical about this, but this simple solution did fix my issue with creeking noise. Thanks alot man!
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Hey man, I bought my hox a week ago and I noticed the cracking today. I tried your fixed, I heated the phone up while playing shadowgun for 10 min and then applied pressure and it seems that the cracking is gone. Thanks for now and I will check back if the cracking appears again(hope not)
Thanks again

I had no creaking on the display side that is until I dropped my phone yesterday luckily no scratches or dents as I had a case on which popped off on the drop.
Will try this out later and try fix it, creaks on bottom left and right.

Glad to hear it is working for others as well. Either way, if you hear any creeking noise again just repeat the steps. At least inmy case after repeating it a number of times it vanished

Does the phone have to be hot
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I don't think this is a big deal. Does anyone remember how squeaky the nexus s was? Yikes
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Nitin985 said:
Does the phone have to be hot
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Personally I did it when it was hot or cold. I believe it is more effective when it's warm though.
MO3iusONE said:
I don't think this is a big deal. Does anyone remember how squeaky the nexus s was? Yikes
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May not be that much of a deal to you, but I think it is a big deal if you consider that you did pay around 600$ or 550euros for a phone, so you want it to feel like a flagship phone as well.

shadehh said:
May not be that much of a deal to you, but I think it is a big deal if you consider that you did pay around 600$ or 550euros for a phone, so you want it to feel like a flagship phone as well.
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Completely agree. And I'm gonna give this a try.

Good point!
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Done it now and will repeat every day for q week and see what happens
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I dont think many people have had this issue.

I think Polycarbonate is having issues with heat deformation...

Speaker grill location

Anyone else hate the location of the speaker on this phone? It drives me nuts that they placed it on the bottom where the phone rests on it. You place your phone on a cushioned surface like a couch or bed for example, it muffles the sounds to the point you can barely hear them.
Hopefully the next nexus device places it on the bottom edge so that its exposed at all times.
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It is terrible and not loud enough either
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Both of mine (maguro and toroplus) have been loud, both my Nexus S were really quiet.
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Yeah, it's pretty stupid. Can't put the phone on a soft surface and still expect to hear anything.

Whats so hard about laying the phone face down, or on a book or something.
I agree the design choice wasn't the best, but it's not exactly deal breaking either.

speedyink said:
Whats so hard about laying the phone face down, or on a book or something.
I agree the design choice wasn't the best, but it's not exactly deal breaking either.
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Good point. But, then that begs the question as to why there's a LED notification. Its not seen if the phone is face down. Its a Samsung design as my SGS2 was the same design with the hump at the bottom and speaker grill located within.
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You can't even hear it to begin with on maximum volume. Doesn't matter where they've put it at that point.
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Dual speakers towards the top of the device would fix this issue
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The speaker was place in that specific location because when your holding it your palm reflects the sound thus amplifying it. I think Google used this idea because they already know how the battery life in this phone sucks. They innovated ,less power used by the speaker but it is louader when your holding it.
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The location of the speaker is pretty bad but the speaker in general is pretty crappy. The volme is no where near loud enough. I dont see how it made it into final production.

akira02rex said:
Good point. But, then that begs the question as to why there's a LED notification. Its not seen if the phone is face down. Its a Samsung design as my SGS2 was the same design with the hump at the bottom and speaker grill located within.
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Because when you lay it on it's back on a cushion you can't hear it, thus making the light all the more useful =P
I dunno man, I just know that there's a lot of phones that have the speaker on the back, including many HTC's. Honestly the best speaker design I've ever seen is on the Xperia Play. Two side mounted speakers that use resonation chambers. Best sounding cell phone speakers I ever heard in my life.

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Because when you lay it on it's back on a cushion you can't hear it, thus making the light all the more useful =P
I dunno man, I just know that there's a lot of phones that have the speaker on the back, including many HTC's. Honestly the best speaker design I've ever seen is on the Xperia Play. Two side mounted speakers that use resonation chambers. Best sounding cell phone speakers I ever heard in my life.
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Agreed. The Nokia 5800 xpressmusic had this same very design!
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Are bad speakers common problem of HTC one?

2 of my lines got HTC one's
1 blue after 2 days speakers started making weird noises like cracks
going today to best buy to replace it.
my other line got silver one 2 days later external speakers work then totaly mute then start working again
both will be replaced as they are within 14 days but jeez did anyone have same issue/s ?

The only audio problems I'm having is with Bluetooth streaming and cracking audio in certain apps. But this is a kernel issue since AOSP ROMs do not have the issue and the international model currently has the same problem.

NotATreoFan said:
The only audio problems I'm having is with Bluetooth streaming and cracking audio in certain apps. But this is a kernel issue since AOSP ROMs do not have the issue and the international model currently has the same problem.
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I really hope HTC fixes it.. I will report when I come back from best-buy today.
Thank you.

Had an AT&T One and now have a Verizon one. My wife also has one. No audio/speaker issues with any of the three phones.

Haven't noticed any speaker or audio problems. Loudest phone, especially ringer I've had. Connected to car blasting Pandora without any distortion (with audio cable, not bluetooth)
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I have read one or two members has posted about cracking speakers I think both said top one. But havent heard anyone else. So doubt it wide spread. I never keep my vol maxed
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I haven't had the problem either it might just be some devices have defective speakers I even use mine full volume a lot and no problems with that either.
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patt2k said:
2 of my lines got HTC one's
1 blue after 2 days speakers started making weird noises like cracks
going today to best buy to replace it.
my other line got silver one 2 days later external speakers work then totaly mute then start working again
both will be replaced as they are within 14 days but jeez did anyone have same issue/s ?
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You might wanna search the forums. I've seen a few posts like this here and there. Might be of help.

My top speaker makes a crackling/popping noise at higher volumes. Going to try to do warranty replacement through HTC.

GrayTheWolf said:
My top speaker makes a crackling/popping noise at higher volumes. Going to try to do warranty replacement through HTC.
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The blue htc one I had on one of my lines we replaced at best buy no issues this one works just fine.
Getting silver replacement tomorrow.
Will report tomorrow.

I had my first One blow the top speaker from a light drop. Was so garbled I could not hear a phone conversation. My replacement has serious popping and cracking at medium volumes now (no drops) but I can still hear in-call fine.
I work as a mechanic in a welding/fabrication shop so my speakers collect iron dust daily. I keep my phone in my lunch box and still get metal in it. I think the speakers are temperamental to ferrous dust and drops.
I also have read similar posts around the forums here about the top speaker popping.
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kdj67f said:
I had my first One blow the top speaker from a light drop. Was so garbled I could not hear a phone conversation. My replacement has serious popping and cracking at medium volumes now (no drops) but I can still hear in-call fine.
I work as a mechanic in a welding/fabrication shop so my speakers collect iron dust daily. I keep my phone in my lunch box and still get metal in it. I think the speakers are temperamental to ferrous dust and drops.
I also have read similar posts around the forums here about the top speaker popping.
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Ziploc that puppy at the shop!
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dottat said:
Ziploc that puppy at the shop!
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I was considering cutting up some screen protectors and covering the speaker grilles and see how that works out. Otherwise, yes, a Ziploc it is!
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kdj67f said:
I was considering cutting up some screen protectors and covering the speaker grilles and see how that works out. Otherwise, yes, a Ziploc it is!
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whoops I forgot to update
So the blue htc one replaced by Best-Buy works just fine no issues at all.
Silver htc one replaced by verizon works just fine!
seems like 2 bad phones for 2 different people

I feel your pain !
patt2k said:
2 of my lines got HTC one's
1 blue after 2 days speakers started making weird noises like cracks
going today to best buy to replace it.
my other line got silver one 2 days later external speakers work then totaly mute then start working again
both will be replaced as they are within 14 days but jeez did anyone have same issue/s ?
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Hi there ! i picked up this phone October 26 2013 , replaced it november 23 2013 , and now again muffled crackling speaker , so sending it back for repair to HTC tomorrow March 18th ! Yup like the phone but , Come on HTC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take care my friend :good:

ramvx68 said:
Hi there ! i picked up this phone October 26 2013 , replaced it november 23 2013 , and now again muffled crackling speaker , so sending it back for repair to HTC tomorrow March 18th ! Yup like the phone but , Come on HTC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take care my friend :good:
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Seriously. This phone is arguably still the best phone on the market. But the purple camera and fragile speakers are just silly issues plaguing users.

I never had any issues on my phone until I spill water on my phone. My friend told me let the cloth absorb the water and let it air dry. After that whenever I'm calling on speakerphone, there's a crumpling sound. However, if I'm listening to music, there are issues on it. Maybe it will improve once all the liquid dried out.

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I never had any issues on my phone until I spill water on my phone. My friend told me let the cloth absorb the water and let it air dry. After that whenever I'm calling on speakerphone, there's a crumpling sound. However, if I'm listening to music, there are issues on it. Maybe it will improve once all the liquid dried out.
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You shouldn't use your phone for at least a week or so after you spill water on it.

My bottom speaker is noticeably louder than the top and at certain frequencies seems to buzz a bit (especially during speakerphone calls). It also doesn't seem to be as loud as it should during regular phone calls, but I don't know if that's just me. My camera works fine though so without a root method I don't feel the need to risk sending it in to HTC and getting back a locked phone. For now I'll just deal with it.

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My bottom speaker is noticeably louder than the top and at certain frequencies seems to buzz a bit (especially during speakerphone calls). It also doesn't seem to be as loud as it should during regular phone calls, but I don't know if that's just me. My camera works fine though so without a root method I don't feel the need to risk sending it in to HTC and getting back a locked phone. For now I'll just deal with it.
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HTC won't touch the software if it is stock.

[Q] T-Mobile M8 speaker problems?

Just picked up my new M8 yesterday. After using it for a day I have noticed a crackling nosie coming from the top speaker, almost as if its blown. Is anyone else having this problem or am I just unlucky?

Mine does it on calls and not music
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Don't have a speaker problem but just noticed a defect on the top speaker right below the camera. The covering is coming off slightly and isn't level with the screen. You can tell the glue isn't very strong it pushes back in and then come s right back when you remove your finger. Gonna try to get it replaced from T-Mobile. You have 14days to get a replacement I highly recommend doing it if you're not satisfied.
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No crackling on my speakers. I've heard several people having this issue with the M8 from other carriers. I would definitely take it back and exchange it.
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Yea thats what I figured I would do. I found a video on YouTube of a guy claiming a toothbrush could fix it, doesn't work! Now the only problem is finding a store in my area that has them in stock!

I just picked up mine yesterday and it has the same issue.
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I'm glad to know its not just me! My friend has the Dev version and the difference between the two is very noticible. However it isn't terrible if the volume is under half, so until I can get a new one that's how its going to stay

Took mine back to the store. They tried the demo phone and got the same results. So I'm waiting on my replacement. Unfortunately if its the same, I might have to switch to the s5
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The store you took it back to should issue the replacement
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They're waiting for another shipment. Both stores in my area sold out.
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otariq said:
Don't have a speaker problem but just noticed a defect on the top speaker right below the camera. The covering is coming off slightly and isn't level with the screen. You can tell the glue isn't very strong it pushes back in and then come s right back when you remove your finger. Gonna try to get it replaced from T-Mobile. You have 14days to get a replacement I highly recommend doing it if you're not satisfied.
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Same issue here, pretty annoying. Going to take it back later today, but not sure if I'll be able to get an exchange - as others have mentioned, most stores are sold out. Pretty lame of HTC, now I'll have $636 burning a hole in my pocket for the next week or so - 636 that could go towards an S5 or something. :/
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They're waiting for another shipment. Both stores in my area sold out.
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I have about a dozen stores in my area, all are sold out. One guy told me they only got like 5 of them in, wtf.

My store finally got some in! Walked in, put it on the desk, the lady said "Speaker Problem?" ran to the back, got me a new one and I was out in 10 min. New device works great!

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My store finally got some in! Walked in, put it on the desk, the lady said "Speaker Problem?" ran to the back, got me a new one and I was out in 10 min. New device works great!
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Would you describe the defect as a constant metallic grating sound in the background of songs and whatnot?

soccerdude288 said:
My store finally got some in! Walked in, put it on the desk, the lady said "Speaker Problem?" ran to the back, got me a new one and I was out in 10 min. New device works great!
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Yeah I'm on my 3rd one and it finally seems to be OK. The hard part is finding a store that has them in stock or admits they have them when you tell them you want to do an exchange. :/
Anyways, one the sales guys told me they've had a lot of S5's coming back too, due to various misc issues.

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Would you describe the defect as a constant metallic grating sound in the background of songs and whatnot?
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Ummm... i would put it very close to the noise my car speaker made when it was recently blown... Again only coming out of the top speaker when it was turned up. It just sounded like a rattle... The one thing that I really noticed it on was MKBHD's review on the Dot Cover Case. 10 seconds into him talking it had already sounded crappy. Thats the video I used to reference my new one.

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Ummm... i would put it very close to the noise my car speaker made when it was recently blown... Again only coming out of the top speaker when it was turned up. It just sounded like a rattle... The one thing that I really noticed it on was MKBHD's review on the Dot Cover Case. 10 seconds into him talking it had already sounded crappy. Thats the video I used to reference my new one.
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Yup, basically sounds like my problem. Looks like I'm going in tomorrow for an exchange. Thanks!

Speaker volume, troubleshooting steps?
I compared the speaker volume and quality of my HTC one M8 speakers with my Samsung note 2 and found out the volume level of both the devices was more or less the same, but the HTC offered a little more bass.
The sound is very less at 50% volume level and drastically increases after 80%-100%
I am not sure if the speakers of my device are up to the mark. How do you guys troubleshoot the speakers sound? Any specific method or just relying on ears?

tanmayrocks said:
I compared the speaker volume and quality of my HTC one M8 speakers with my Samsung note 2 and found out the volume level of both the devices was more or less the same, but the HTC offered a little more bass.
The sound is very less at 50% volume level and drastically increases after 80%-100%
I am not sure if the speakers of my device are up to the mark. How do you guys troubleshoot the speakers sound? Any specific method or just relying on ears?
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Ive just been going off of my ears... Again depending on what I was listening to it was sometimes hard to hear. But I used MKBHD's review of the Dot Cover case to go off of. I could tell in the first 10 seconds.

1 year warranty
Just wanna remind you guys that tmobile has a 1 year guarantee on any phone you purchase from them, so even if you're past your 14 days you can still call customer service and get them to send you a replacement. The only thing the 1 year warranty doesn't cover is physical damage like a broken screen/body or water damage. I've had tmo for over 10 years and have gotten a bunch of replacements on phones that developed issues.

I am having this crackling, popping, static annoying, irritating, hurting noise during call... actually mine is at&t.. I bought two of them and they had the same issue.. Also lot other issues highlighted in various forums (like bluetooth, battery life, etc)