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Task killer for 2.2

Hi guys my 2nd post here. Just updated my phone to 2.2 and was wondering if I should bother using task killer anymore. Someone told me that I don't really need to on 2.2. What are your suggestions since you guys seriously have answers to everything. Thank you.
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task killers do more bad than good
You would be better off using a task PREVENTER like "autostarts" if you want to keep open processes down

Froyo won't allow them to kill the app. Only background data. So essentially they are useless with Froyo.
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dglowe343 said:
Froyo won't allow them to kill the app. Only background data. So essentially they are useless with Froyo.
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interesting, I did not know this

Thanks guys. I knew I would get the right answer here.
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[REQUEST] Froyo browser fix request

As we all know the Froyo browser is bad.
Is there something that can be done? AOSP browser maybe? Galaxy Tab browser? Eclair browser?
I know this might not belong here, but I am sure the devs here could come with something up!
WE NEED A FASTER BROWSER!!!

Amen to that.
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+1 !!!!
10chars

I'm running JM6 pre rooted with EXT2 and its quicker than JPC. IMO its fine.

Did you disable flash?
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http ://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803678
Try this, certainly feels a lot smoother than before the fix.

It is SLOW compared to eclair!
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pmos69 said:
Did you disable flash?
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Yes, it is smoother but still not iphone smooth. But anyway, we deserve a fast browser WITH flash!
Let's add a bounty as well!

huxflux2003 said:
Yes, it is smoother but still not iphone smooth. But anyway, we deserve a fast browser WITH flash!
Let's add a bounty as well!
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Flash is slow
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Never going to get a smooth browser with flash, if you don't have a dedicated chip for Adobe flash acceleration...
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It is not Flash that is slowing it down.
Disable it and you will see.
On the Droid X the browser is by far smoother WITH flash enabled.
There is something else going on here.

clubtech said:
It is not Flash that is slowing it down.
Disable it and you will see.
On the Droid X the browser is by far smoother WITH flash enabled.
There is something else going on here.
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Yes the problem is that with flash enable,the available memory is gone making the phone so slow to scroll etc.Its a memory management problem

Agree, we have far too little useable ram, and the browser is using way too much.
Opening pocketnow.com uses 120mb ram on jpa, it causes a fc and memory dump.
We barely have 120mb useable to begin with!
Very very annoying... Time to start posting on samsung facebook page
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Flash is not the problem. I don't think any sane person runs Flash "always on" on the galaxy s unless they enjoy feeling frusterated.
With flash off, scrolling is pretty bad, pinch to zoom is pretty bad. It varies from pretty good to terrible.
I don't like my phone being whooped by a 9 month old Nexus One in terms of browsing performance, when mine has better specs!!!

Maybe Opera Mobile, which is coming out this month, is the solution. Opera browsers are always very very fast.
Also, has anyone hands-on experience with the Galaxy Tab? How is the browser performance there?

I hope that Opera will be good. Thing is, the Froyo browser should be absolutely amazing on this phone but Samsung screwed it over. Hopefully Cyanogen can take care of it.
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android53 said:
Agree, we have far too little useable ram, and the browser is using way too much.
Opening pocketnow.com uses 120mb ram on jpa, it causes a fc and memory dump.
We barely have 120mb useable to begin with!
Very very annoying... Time to start posting on samsung facebook page
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I just opened pocketnow.com and it's perfectly smooth..
I have no complains with my froyo browser except it has problem downloading from megaupload.
Have you tried auto killer?

O loved Opera Mobile on WM, let is hope that on Android it will be equally good. I can't wait for it.

Why have Dolphin HD and xscope the same problem with the ram? I check it both have 100 MB two. (pocketnow)

[Q] Can you use the "autokiller" on cyanogen?

Hey guys I was wondering if you could use the Autokiller app in Avalunch's V10 rom on Cyanogen 6.1 stable? Help me out if any one knows or has tried this before thanks!
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Can you? Yes.
Should you? No.
Any taskkiller apps should not be used on Froyo on a phone with enough RAM to easily handle the in-memory apps.

Thanks bro!!!!
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terrel_b said:
Can you? Yes.
Should you? No.
Any taskkiller apps should not be used on Froyo on a phone with enough RAM to easily handle the in-memory apps.
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do you know why? i experience a definite improvement in speed and smoothness after killing all apps (on medium security level) i use the one on the market that says it was designed for froyo.

dkdude36 said:
do you know why? i experience a definite improvement in speed and smoothness after killing all apps (on medium security level) i use the one on the market that says it was designed for froyo.
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Froyo is a big boy compared to its younger siblings and can take care of apps itself. 99% of the time, it's opening something in the background because it thinks you're going to be using it soon, or because you have a widget for that app on your home screen.

Task killer

Do I need any task killer or they are just taking memory & slowing down the phone ?
Everytime I open it I have a hole bunch of apps running & some will open right away before I Evan exit the task killer ?
I tried most task killers but nothing seams to actually work properly .
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I would not recommend using a task killer. Android OS has a built in task killer that will kill apps if they're taking up too much memory. Using a task killer, more often than not, can actually INCREASE battery usage instead of helping it.

Do I need an anti virus ?
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oranium said:
Do I need an anti virus ?
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No. That's a common misconception brought on by Android Haters. Unless you install random third party apps that seem sketchy, you won't need to worry about any viruses. On top of that, any app that is infected is sandboxed from other ones so they could ONLY affect that app and not others. But the point of this post is no, you won't have to worry about anything. Android is actually pretty safe

many apps you think are running (you see them in the task killer) are not actually running but rather just cached so that they can be opened faster. This is how Android works. True the caching takes up a small amount of memory but you're not wasting CPU cycles on those apps.

Wow thx that's good to know .
Thx to you all here @ XDA you guys ROCK !!!
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Cm6 much faster then mikifroyo?

I thought they'd be about the same but like when I click the app killer widget on Cm6 I got almost 280mb or whatever and on mikifroyo only 180mb
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that's how much free memory you have available....You should not be using task killers on 2.2 froyo, it does not do anything...

iitreatedii said:
that's how much free memory you have available....You should not be using task killers on 2.2 froyo, it does not do anything...
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Yes it does......................it drains your battery quicker!

How much memory is left is not = to how fast it runs. CM 6 also only has wimax in alpha, has no hdmi. It doesn't have sense. So of course it has more memory left.

as others have said the memory you are looking at is phone storage this is not the RAM type memory on a computer and it has no affect on your speed. The biggest reason for the difference is the lack of sense and htc widgets/apps. you can get similar memory amounts (though never as much) by removing rosie and htc widgets/bloatware from sense based roms.
CM can run faster then sense in many cases but the method you indicate is not a valid way to compare or tell that it is.

luist4498 said:
it drains your battery quicker!
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i lol'd at that part, but yeah don't use task killers, it's like this, i have a computer,no better yet an xbox...i have 19/20 gigs free, the xbox will run the same if it has 1 or 20 free. That's just storage space, its not anything else

Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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jc8081 said:
Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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Read up.......... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849974

jc8081 said:
Ok im really confused now? How do task killers not work it says i killed like 8 apps isn't that good so now they aren't waisting my battery? Sorry im new that might be a dumb question..
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in short, in 2.2 and above, you kill a task, android restarts it. nuff said. wasting cpu cycles and battery suffers from it

Ok ya that makes sense thanks. What about on other roms like cm or miui? Are they useless there too?
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From what I know anything based on 2.2+ has app management built in so task killers are worthless. So pretty much any of those roms. Don't worry about using it.

omegasun18 said:
CM can run faster then sense in many cases but the method you indicate is not a valid way to compare or tell that it is.
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My method is not scientific... I have ~ 200 photos on my sd card. I've tryd warm 2.2/ and miks... miks was faster loading photos than warm.
I went to cm6/// then 7 nightlys. The photos load 4x faster. In fairness I loaded CM6 gallery (availble on market) into miks and there was no difference in speed CM is hands down... faster IMHO

I use a start up manager it keeps apps from starting up in the first place. After that a app killer really isn't necessary. I still keep one installed just encase a app hangs for some reason. Yes I have read all the threads about app killers. Also a full hard drive will be slower than one that isn't. It's true that app killers don't really work that well but start up killers will.
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What about the task killer in miui when u hold the home button? Is that bad too? Jw and i dont understand how they don't work bc when I first start my phone its slow but once i killed them its faster? I know u guys know better but just hard to beleive... Thanks btw
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