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Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
naailalzuhir said:
Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
Hawks556 said:
I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers
naailalzuhir said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers
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My main point is the last sentence in my previous post. There isn't much tweaking you can do as a dev if you don't know how to work with the rom in the first place. If someone wants to modify the looks of a rom they could just release a theme. There's just too little being added to these new roms that someone could be able to call it their own imo and then there's the permission part...
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I tried just about every ROM for my inspire and I decided to keep Honey3d.. after trying just about every sense 3.0 ROM, I believe that each one had its own touch. They look very similar but some just had a different style or look. Personally there was a big enough difference between them all to meet everyone's different styles.
If your worried about them all looking the same, take a look at some of the other ROMs out there too. Many of them look close to a bunch of the other ROMs.
Overall I don't really understand the locking on the 3.0 threads. I really hope I get to keep using Honey3D.. I don't really want to change to anything else
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i don't know about it.
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zy. said:
i don't know about it.
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Hawks556 said:
Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Lol....you see that all the time. I can't tell if its an attempt to boost post count or serious language barrier.
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Poll on who wants a Windows Phone 7 ROM
1st vote
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Willy Peeon 7
Are you looking for a thrill chill?
WM6.5 would make more sense with SD Card support and retro apps that have much more usefulness.
How would one get past the DRM that’s gives Willy Peeon access to all the content on ones device?
I would rather see a dual boot Android/WM 6.5....
Maybe start with the Fathom V7 ROM and just fix the data drop issue.
Then stick it in the face of that little dictator**** wanabe website LGforum that will ban you for telling it like it is.
If I could just get past decompiling the .wdb file...
The rest is just engineered obsolescence of the Fathom.
Your ROM help those who would consider trying that type of OS.
More power to you..
Lmao. I don't have to do this... I was just trying to please the two pm's I got... If u don't like my rom, simply don't use it. Im not a well knowledged dev, but I do try. Over at x2 we don't have much, so I put this together for us to have. The op and someone else pm’d me for this. Please don't go off hating like that. Im just trying to help.........
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OOPS
Hey,
I apologize.
I didn't mean to dis anyone or their hard work.
If you found a way to make it work then that's a whole nother story.
That sounds like something I might just try out in my spare time.
I just thought that with the internal memory limitations of the DInc II and the restriction of WP7 to not allow the use of an SD Card, there wouldn’t be much room to load programs. Kind of like the AndrOmnia project...
I do appreciate the work of just about all of the devs that I have read about.
I didn’t know that it was actually a work in progress.
And that wanabe website I was referring to is the LGforum that could be if it were controlled by someone other than North Korea.
Keep up the great work…
Yehp.. It's still beta... what dows LG forums have to do with this? The rom should be out of beta next week sometime.. IM releasing the blurless version tomorrow"pretty much blurless" I just have a couple more things I need to take care of on x2 side before I can start on this.
cac2us said:
Hey,
I apologize.
I didn't mean to dis anyone or their hard work.
If you found a way to make it work then that's a whole nother story.
That sounds like something I might just try out in my spare time.
I just thought that with the internal memory limitations of the DInc II and the restriction of WP7 to not allow the use of an SD Card, there wouldn’t be much room to load programs. Kind of like the AndrOmnia project...
I do appreciate the work of just about all of the devs that I have read about.
I didn’t know that it was actually a work in progress.
And that wanabe website I was referring to is the LGforum that could be if it were controlled by someone other than North Korea.
Keep up the great work…
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Its not actual wp7 on the phone, its made to look like it. Like using launcher7 from the market.
And I'm voting for it btw
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I vote yes.
Always yes. Innovation is what keeps the community alive.
Why would one vote no? Just because you yourself wouldnt use it I am sure others will.
I voted yes.
well unless someone is willing to do it, i dont know what this poll even accomplishes. I'm under the impression that porting a different OS takes a lot more skill than making a native rom, otherwise the HD2 wouldn't be the only phone with 9000 different operating systems.
I vote yes, more roms are always awesome.
Zax_Was_Here said:
well unless someone is willing to do it, i dont know what this poll even accomplishes. I'm under the impression that porting a different OS takes a lot more skill than making a native rom, otherwise the HD2 wouldn't be the only phone with 9000 different operating systems.
I vote yes, more roms are always awesome.
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Try reading the thread its not the OS..
tylerlawhon said:
Its not actual wp7 on the phone, its made to look like it. Like using launcher7 from the market.
And I'm voting for it btw
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Try reading the thread its not the OS..
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Thanks for clearing that up. Go check out the "porting a ROM thread. It explains and has a link to the original.
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Hey guys,
As you have probably noticed, the development at the desire has quite "stopped"
Many devs are really "busy" and others have abandoned the desire.
The ONLY working dev is Coolexe or MichaelM.
I personally think it's time to move on to a next device.
What you guys think?
Will there come more desire devs? or will this be the "end"?
Bout kernels: Once they told us, when open source kernel is released, the desire will be muchhhhh better, but I personally think there hasn't change much!
Kernels are still not as they should be, 1 kernel got lockscreen lag or batt drain, others freeze. Know what imsaying?
I'm not saying the devs are that bad, but this is the end to me I think.
Share you'r opinion below!
//
Nick
I couldn't agree more!
nickislauw said:
The ONLY working dev is Coolexe or MichaelM.
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Complete fabrication! What about Kali-, RichardTrip and myself?
rootSU said:
Complete fabrication! What about Kali-, RichardTrip and myself?
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kali isn't really a dev? he's just posting the CM builds.
Richardtrip only updates his rom when there's a new cm build, so not very interesting too!
And you'r latest update was 22 sept
Think you have to agree me ;$
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kali isn't really a dev? he's just posting the CM builds.
Richardtrip only updates his rom when there's a new cm build, so not very interesting too!
And you'r latest update was 22 sept
Think you have to agree me ;$
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ooooh 1 whole month ago. Actually I am working on a build now but quality is more important to me than getting out updates every 2 days.
But to say there are only 2 devs working on the desire is completely wrong and I find your posts not only offensive but also inaccurate and counter productive.
Edit> Also forgot to mention Droidzone and Sibere, then all the kernel devs. not all devs build roms.
And Kali- is a dev,. he doesn't just "post builds" if you look at his git hub you can see his commits,.
Worst thread ever!
Well I see it more dimensional:
1. Sense: it seems like really slowed down a bit, but on the other hand Sense 3.5 was available very quickly. Dridzone is also contributing here (piety he resists newer Sense for now).
2. ASOP: CM7 + bunch of other ROMs - well CM is stable, rest is fluctuating (for me it is only CM that seems interesting)
3. MIUI: active
Actually now is the time to wait for ICS sourcecode to enable further milestone. I guess Sense will decrease in popularity with ICS based CM9 released. For me the only thing thet stops me from CM7 as daily are Exchange ActiveSync issues.
Piety that for few days now both Coolexe and michelm_007 remain silent. Anyway DHD seems to be the main driver of HTC community - Desire seems to rather follow, not drive progress (in matter of new sense porting). Tha is basically due to small internal memory that is the main step to consider when porting some new ROMS. The speed issue due to obsolete platform (CPU/GPU) is also stronger here from DHD, so it really is the fade out period for the Sense on Desire. Next Sense will most likely be even more difficult to be run smoothly...
Sense will gain popularity again when Sense 4.0 on top of Android 4.0 D) will be released.
Dont see that running on the trusty Desire though
RootSU,
I didn't want to be rude,
But I think you understand that this desire community isn't how its supposed to be.
You have to agree that the BEST devs abonded, like baadnewz, robocik, leedroid (comes back)
It's not completely dead but its silent here in the rom section.
Hope you understand my point
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
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RootSU,
You have to agree that the BEST devs abonded, like baadnewz, robocik, leedroid (comes back)
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How rude are you to the devs who are still supporting the Desire???
If you're unhappy with what's happening here, go play somewhere else. Don't insult the devs who are still working hard on Desire roms.
zedmarcus said:
How rude are you to the devs who are still supporting the Desire???
If you're unhappy with what's happening here, go play somewhere else. Don't insult the devs who are still working hard on Desire roms.
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Cmon read the whole thread man!
rootSU said:
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
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Yeah ok 2 isn't right.
But there were MUCH more devs, and many of them are gone.
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Cmon read the whole thread man!
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I read the whole thread man, and you were insulting from your first post to your last.
nickislauw said:
Yeah ok 2 isn't right.
But there were MUCH more devs, and many of them are gone.
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isnt it logical that people move on to new devices, including the devs? no point stating the obvious in a thread here... just stick with whats left of the desire community, start developing yourself or abandon ship and go for a newer device... you should at least be thankful for all that has been done for our awesome device so far...
*note* im not bashing you in any way, its just that i think the way you wrote the OP is pointless. you can move on to a Nexus device where the development doesnt stop till the devs faint from working overtime...
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I read the whole thread man, and you were insulting from your first post to your last.
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What, your girlfriend didn't give you sex?
rootSU said:
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
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He is right about one thing, though. Kernels still sucks even months after release of source code.
Terepin said:
He is right about one thing, though. Kernels still sucks even months after release of source code.
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This. I even flashed AuraxTSense again for a brief period before changing ship to aosp because of this.
It is only natural that people continue developing elsewhere, depending on where they upgraded. You can't expect them to support old device like you can't expect from HTC. Neither party involved has superhuman abilities, so I can't say anything but great thanks for making Desire more pleasurable to use than it already was.
The thing that concerns me are the reasons both Neophyte and AdamG went. Rapid deterioration of community and quality of information available in the period of last 12 months. Both these great devs went explicitly because of that (one for good and one to his respective forum).
Terepin said:
What, your girlfriend didn't give you sex?
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lolz... Terepin trying to make up for his small weiner again
Oh no this all cant be true! I have finally rooted and put my first rom on.....only took me about 18 months. Ah well, a few months time and it will be upgrade time. Still, for me it seems so new.
I've been noticing a lot of ROM's not updating. And recently the ICS port from the RCMix Sensation has been stopped and closed. Is their still hope, or is it time to upgrade to a newer phone.
Not sure what you consider alot, but I.just glanced in the Dev section and quite a few have had updates of within the past two weeks(I counted 10 +). That seems pretty active to me
Plus just because a rom hasn't been updated recently doesn't mean its not being worked on
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I've been noticing a lot of ROM's not updating. And recently the ICS port from the RCMix Sensation has been stopped and closed. Is their still hope, or is it time to upgrade to a newer phone.
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Not updating doesnt mean that they (devs) are not working anymore, It means that their ROM doesnt have any bugs or problems and is stable and doesnt require any changes.
Thats what most of the ROM devs will say.
Hmmm a question thread that was not posted in the Q&A forum?
Ill move it this time
You'd consider buying a new phone just because (some) threads on a forum aren't experiencing a massive amount of traffic in a holiday period?
*facepalm*
Not considered a question because it also what you think.. is it dying or not.
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I understand what u mean and I would say yes
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It only dies if people allow it. It has become far to common that people wait for others do it instead of learning to do it themselfs. If you want something cool and new dig in and make something new. That is the point of a development forum to help others learn and share tips. Developers are not special. They just have the drive to make their device theirs.
I had another read of the op, like the ics sense is coming back, I've been working on it and other things, in a way dhd is dying and in a way it isnt if that makes sense, alot of new devices gets released n when that happens everyone usually wants something new and cool, devs want to develop on a newer phone see what it can handle performance wise etc
If I'm still here when sense 4.0 drops then yeah I'll most likely be bringing it to DHD first (as thats the phone I have)
Yea i totally agree with what you are saying zelendel
shaky156 said:
I had another read of the op, like the ics sense is coming back, I've been working on it and other things, in a way dhd is dying and in a way it isnt if that makes sense, alot of new devices gets released n when that happens everyone usually wants something new and cool, devs want to develop on a newer phone see what it can handle performance wise etc
If I'm still here when sense 4.0 drops then yeah I'll most likely be bringing it to DHD first (as thats the phone I have)
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i have a question for you shaky.
i was following your thread, and i did notice that you were postponing it. but you completely got rid of the thread. why is that?
fielddb said:
i have a question for you shaky.
i was following your thread, and i did notice that you were postponing it. but you completely got rid of the thread. why is that?
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The thread is still there, you just can't see it
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hide and go seek is not fun on the internet
Haha its not like its fully stopped, I'm working on it along with other things
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Patience is a virtue
Y2KoaS said:
Patience is a virtue
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Seems that many people consider that virtue to be terribly overrated.
dannorth said:
Seems that many people consider that virtue to be terribly overrated.
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your reply is a total win!
patience friends as you may see surprises in the dhd threads and i know there is some poor people who cant afford a new phone as a matter of fact there is a lot of devs working hardly not to mention that there is a whole new devices who attrack people more from our beloved dhd we have a great team working like the CM team some dev did abondan us maybe but there is others coming and in a large choice of phones u wont expect regular updates this is not iphone this is android everyday new phones are released not to mention how hard a dev work could be and evantually the updates includes updates off apps so it sounds unecessary but we here are brothers and we can work together and most important is to wait you will never know whats comming regards my friends
Ahh its not dieing..the desire section which i used to have is still banging away
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marsdta said:
Not sure what you consider alot, but I.just glanced in the Dev section and quite a few have had updates of within the past two weeks(I counted 10 +). That seems pretty active to me
Plus just because a rom hasn't been updated recently doesn't mean its not being worked on
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Exactly.
Greets from an hd2 dev!
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What is with the lack of custom roms for our phone? Is it the lack of devs who own the device, or is it the lack of open source resources for our device? Thanks for your responses.
We have more roms than the international version. What are you crying about?
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We have more roms than the international version. What are you crying about?
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I think we have what, two roms right now? And they're both stock (one is deodexed), so really not a whole lot to choose from right? (And I mean absolutely no disrespect to Devs. I know this process, I've been around a while now. It takes time to get up and running.)
But I know, and feel what the op is saying. Normally by now, we'd at least have some more things going on as far as roms, and especially kernels. What I'm most excited for is aosp or cm. I really miss stock android, and I think this phone would benefit a whole lot from it as far as battery life and fluidity.
But I can be patient... I think
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I think we have what, two roms right now? And they're both stock (one is deodexed), so really not a whole lot to choose from right? (And I mean absolutely no disrespect to Devs. I know this process, I've been around a while now. It takes time to get up and running.)
But I know, and feel what the op is saying. Normally by now, we'd at least have some more things going on as far as roms, and especially kernels. What I'm most excited for is aosp or cm. I really miss stock android, and I think this phone would benefit a whole lot from it as far as battery life and fluidity.
But I can be patient... I think
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Dont worry bro the devs probably barely got their devices rightnow. We dont know what they are planning. But they will be coming and you will be first to enjoy a fully custom phone and quench the thirst. I have it too. The fact that the bootloader is unlocked for tmbile make me relieved[emoji27]
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I think we have what, two roms right now? And they're both stock (one is deodexed), so really not a whole lot to choose from right? (And I mean absolutely no disrespect to Devs. I know this process, I've been around a while now. It takes time to get up and running.)
But I know, and feel what the op is saying. Normally by now, we'd at least have some more things going on as far as roms, and especially kernels. What I'm most excited for is aosp or cm. I really miss stock android, and I think this phone would benefit a whole lot from it as far as battery life and fluidity.
But I can be patient... I think
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I could be way off here but if you want aosp you better start compiling it. For some reason I doubt we will see official aosp or aokp until one of us gets the ball rolling on github. I would but the idea of being a guinea pig for the kernel scares me off. If anyone knows of it officially being worked on please correct me.
I wish i could help unfortunately I cant code very much.. Anyways I cant wait for some LG G3 custom ROM love. :good:
It took almost 2 months for the first AOSP rom to start showing up for the G2, and that had less exposure. It just takes time.
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Be patient. Device just recently came out. The fact we even have a full root and 2 flavors of stock is nice already given the time
I like LG's take on Android. I'd be happy with a properly debloated rom and custom kernel.
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I could be way off here but if you want aosp you better start compiling it. For some reason I doubt we will see official aosp or aokp until one of us gets the ball rolling on github. I would but the idea of being a guinea pig for the kernel scares me off. If anyone knows of it officially being worked on please correct me.
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Trust me, If I could code, I wouldve started by now lol, but as far as I've seen , there is a guy messing with a 4.4.4 aosp build or Android L build in the general section of the T-Mobile threads. From what I've read he's responsible for the Android L port to the Nexus 4, so at least we have someone digging at it.
Other than that I haven't seen anything else.
This is my first non nexus LG smartphone , so forgive me if Im not privy to how long development normally takes. All I can say is I'm definitely excited to see something
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I dont know how develpoment is now on the the G2 but when i had it there wasnt much going on there, I think i flashed international roms on that device, would that be possible with the G3?
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I dont know how develpoment is now on the the G2 but when i had it there wasnt much going on there, I think i flashed international roms on that device, would that be possible with the G3?
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With the G2 you could do that as long as you had a D801 kernel to flash on top of it. Might be the same here.
I wanted to compile AOSPA (paranoid android for those who don't know), but couldn't find the device tree for this device. Someone answered me on here and said that they needed to be built and none were available at this time.
That's what we're waiting for to get any type of AOSP rom on this device. I looked into building it myself, but it's a bit over my head.