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I tried a ROM update today (Magnolia) and my phone is now seriously slow (including SpeedTest which shows about 50Kbps download speed). I attempted to reinstall the same ROM and to restore a Nandroid (neither of which has helped). I did every wipe present in CWM v2.5.1.2 (I know v3.x.x.x is not a good wiper) and in HBOOT, also all to no avail.
It is possible that the ROM is focused on carefully updating itself rather than completely overwriting.
Does anyone have a recommendation as to the best way to really ensure that no old runaway processes are surviving the flashes (ROM or Nandroid)? I am wondering if flashing another ROM would do it (it wouldn't try to update), but am very open to suggestions.
Thanks!
I had the same problem when I would install a rom with the CW 3.0.0.8 and it will just update the current rom, and not do a full wipe like I just to get before with the CW 2.x.x.x what I have done to get a clean install is this...
- I dont use the Rom Manager no more to update...
- Boot into Recovery and do the Following before you install a new Rom..
1-) Wipe Data/ Factory Reset
2-) Wipe Cache Partition
3-) Install the Rom .Zip with CW
Thats how I have done it before hope it helps...
Dont use rom manager to install go into recovery. Do a factory reset twice, then goto mounts and storage and format manually, data, cache, system, boot. Do that twice or more and youre super wiped as you put it. But as far as magnolia goes...did you make sure that you dl'd the flashover and not the whole rom?
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Thanks
Pete - Thanks. I never use RomManager to do ANYTHING (and remain surprised that people do). I do factory reset and wipe in CWM but never formatted system; which I just posted in the Magnolia forum as being what I thought is causing all the trouble. At least this lets me know how to manually do it. Thanks
1107963 said:
I had the same problem when I would install a rom with the CW 3.0.0.8 and it will just update the current rom, and not do a full wipe like I just to get before with the CW 2.x.x.x what I have done to get a clean install is this...
- I dont use the Rom Manager no more to update...
- Boot into Recovery and do the Following before you install a new Rom..
1-) Wipe Data/ Factory Reset
2-) Wipe Cache Partition
3-) Install the Rom .Zip with CW
Thats how I have done it before hope it helps...
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Building on this- I do EVERYTHING from recovery. In addition to the steps listed I also go to "mounts and storage" and wipe /system, /data, /cache, and /boot. Eradicate!
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I gave out a loud guffah when reading this thread title. Maybe stuff's just funnier before having coffee.
johnchad14 said:
I gave out a loud guffah when reading this thread title. Maybe stuff's just funnier before having coffee.
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Right? Super Charmin came to mind right away.
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So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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KNguyen104 said:
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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Using the RomManager interface I chose to Wipe Data and Cache and also chose the gapps package to install. I guess I could try it again but I was mystified why it didnt work since I "thought" it was so simple.
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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snowboarda42 said:
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
Alpine- said:
I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
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No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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Alpine- said:
So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
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I had the same issue....although mine have been caused by restoring system data.
What I did is manually DL the rom, boot into recover, wiped cache/dalvic, flashed from zip (Both CM7 and the proper GAPPS file) and it worked.
eventer289 said:
No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
Alpine- said:
nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
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So wait, still getting the loops?
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So wait, still getting the loops?
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I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.
What I started doing was booting into RECOVERY (i know it sounds scary but it really isn't) A little off topic but there is a great app that I think every rooted user should use, it's called: Reboot Control Widget It only costs a measly $1 in the Market but it's well worth it. Basically you put the widget on the desktop and click on it. You are then given the option to Reboot your phone, Hot Boot (fast reboot), boot into Recovery, Bootloader or Shut Down. Best dollar you will ever spend on an app.
So anyway, l strayed from my point. The problem you are experiencing is partially due to not having fully wiped your phones data/cache. I know you think you did it through the Clockwork app but from experience it doesn't work that well. There is a "flashable" file called Calkulin's Format All. It is in the DEV section posted in Calkulin's Rom section. It will clear everything except the contents of your SD card.
1. Boot into RECOVERY
2. find: INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
3. select the Calkulin's Format ALL.zip file (your phone will be totally clean after this)
4. Again, choose INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
5. Select the ROM you want to flash. (If it is a Cyanogen based ROM you will have to flash the appropriate Google Apps file after flashing the ROM. If flashing a Sense ROM the Gapps file is not necessary)
6. Flash Gapps file (Google apps if necessary)
7. Once this is done select REBOOT SYSTEM NOW
I feel confident that if you follow those steps you won't run into any bootloops!
I have added the Format All.zip file that I mentioned in my last post.
Little advice:
- take the time to do a Nandroid before flashing a new rom
- use Titanium to restore only the apps w/o the data. I know it's nice to restore everything the way you had it on the last rom but from my experience this has led to instability in the new rom. Also from my experience when you are on a SENSE rom and use Titanium to backup your files and data when you install a AOSP (like CM) rom and try to restore those files and data it won't even let you. Just something to keep in mind if you are switching between CM to Sense or vice versa.
Alpine- said:
I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
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Yes it should.
Manually wipe you factory/data, cache, dalvik, then flash the rom with the latest gapps and you'll be good.
SantinoInc said:
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.....
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Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
when you use clockwordmod recovery to wipe your phone the dalvik doesn't wipe with the wipe option you see on the main screen, i belive you will see the option to wipe it in the advanced menu
Alpine- said:
Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
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They are the same. ROM Manager boots you into recovery and nandroids for you. People have mixed experiences with ROM Manager. From my experience it is best just to boot manually into recovery and take care of all your flashing and wiping there.
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I rooted the incredible using unrevoked, no problem.
Installed and ran root apps, no problem, backed up everything using titanium backup and rom manager (nandroid) and so forth, installed cw recovery 3.0.0.8.
When I install the skyraider 4 rom from rom manager, it reboots and installs, but then when it reboots again it hangs at the white htc incredible screen (and I've let it wait as long as a half an hour). I have to take out the battery to be able to reboot it.
I can boot back to recovery and then re-install and boot back to the stock rooted rom just fine. But I can't get a new rom installed and working.
I've looked at previous threads about this problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023358
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991953
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620621
and several other threads on other sites.
The only suggestions to come out of those, other that starting over from scratch (which I've done multiple times now), were to reformat the sd card, which I've also done, and to downgrade to cm recovery 2.5.1.2. Rom manager only shows versions as old as 3.0.0.5. I have put the PB31IMG.zip file on the sd card and loaded that before to help recover but I don't see how that helps with installing a new rom.
Any other suggestions? The main reason I even need a new rom is because bluetooth doesn't work in the stock rom (known issue: http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/91/p/2336/8570.aspx )
It sounds like you are not wiping cache and Davlik (in advanced). The constant reboot of the white screen is a classic symptom of not performing a cache and Davlik wipe
patsfan1130 said:
It sounds like you are not wiping cache and Davlik (in advanced). The constant reboot of the white screen is a classic symptom of not performing a cache and Davlik wipe
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appreciate your help, yeah I've been doing that everytime in rom manager. I tried it several times manually in cm recovery, too, and still the white screen.
I'll just see if verizon can exchange it, or else I'll sell it for another phone with working bluetooth.
Might try reverting to the 2.5.1.2 recovery as I've heard the 3.x.x.x ones don't wipe consistently.
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when im change roms im not use Rom manager,im just use rom manager for Backup Current Rom.I use quickboot for install a new Rom
1.open quickboot
2.choose recovery
3.wipe date/factory reset
4.drop down to yes delete all user data
5.go back to the first panel and choose advance(5 and 6 optional)
6.and then wipe Dalvik Cache
7.install zip from sd card.
8.good lock,(xdadevelopers and me are not responsable for any damage in your cell.)
Im running the skyrider 4.0 and is a wonderfull Rom,highly recommended.
when im change roms im not use Rom manager,im just use rom manager for Backup Current Rom.I use quickboot for install a new Rom
1.open quickboot
2.choose recovery
3.wipe date/factory reset
4.drop down to yes delete all user data
5.go back to the first panel and choose advance(5 and 6 optional)
6.and then wipe Dalvik Cache
7.install zip from sd card.
8.good lock,(xdadevelopers and me are not responsable for any damage in your cell.)
Im running the skyrider 4.0 and is a wonderfull Rom,highly recommended.
k_nivesout said:
Might try reverting to the 2.5.1.2 recovery as I've heard the 3.x.x.x ones don't wipe consistently.
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There is a flash of CWM 2.5 that temporarily lets you use that to flash the rom then when you reboot it will revert back. Try that.
I have an incredible running sock 2.2
I have radio version 2.15.00.07.28
I rooted my phone with unrevoked
I installed rom manager and clockwork recovery
I used rom manager to take a backup of the current rom
I used rom manager to download CM7
Now can I just go into rom manager and pick install rom from SD card and browse to the CM7 download? Should I check "Wipe Data and Cache" when installing CM7? Do I need to do anything special to make sure the GPS works once CM7 is installed?
If I decide I don't like CM7 can I boot into recovery and apply the clockwork backup and my phone will be in the exact same state as before the backup? Apps and everything?
Am I missing any steps?
Thanks.
Yep you've got everything right. You can install using rom manager but alot of people have better luck doing it manually through recovery. Make sure you wipe data and cache, also flash the Google apps zip right after CM7.
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When coming from a non CM7 Rom, it is better to go into cwm and clear system as well as everything else before flashing.
That's a good point. When I do a full wipe I go into mounts and storage>format boot, format data, format system, format cache, in addition to wipe data, wipe cache, and dalvik cache wipe.
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Thanks for the info guys
What you type is right.just doit
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is it just download the file, reboot in recovery, and wipe.. then flash?
what is aroma installer? and how to differentiate the diff between the tmo roms and the others when they don't have tmo in the name?
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dreseansr said:
is it just download the file, reboot in recovery, and wipe.. then flash?
what is aroma installer? and how to differentiate the diff between the tmo roms and the others when they don't have tmo in the name?
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All tmobile M919 custom roms are located in the Tmobile M919 forum.
Does not matter what the name of the rom is or what the filename is.
Be sure to do a full wipe before flashing any roms.
A full wipe includes Cache, Dalvik Cache, System, Data
and last but not least a factory reset it twrp or cwm recovery.
Be sure to make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing anything.
Good luck!
Aroma installer is an installer that will give you a list of options you want in the ROM and will then install the ROM based on your selections.. And I agree with Misterjunky, just follow his steps and you can't go wrong.. Except I would say a data wipe is not really necessary because that will wipe your internal SD
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serio22 said:
Aroma installer is an installer that will give you a list of options you want in the ROM and will then install the ROM based on your selections.. And I agree with Misterjunky, just follow his steps and you can't go wrong.. Except I would say a data wipe is not really necessary because that will wipe your internal SD
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where do I install it and do you install it on your computer or your phone? OR is it on the rom already?
Misterjunky said:
All tmobile M919 custom roms are located in the Tmobile M919 forum.
Does not matter what the name of the rom is or what the filename is.
Be sure to do a full wipe before flashing any roms.
A full wipe includes Cache, Dalvik Cache, System, Data
and last but not least a factory reset it twrp or cwm recovery.
Be sure to make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing anything.
Good luck!
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so its just like installing any other rom? you don't need an installer to do it? you just flash it with like twrp or something? that's what im trying to ask
Its just like any other ROM. The difference is that aroma has an interface which let's you pick and choose what you want installed. A lot of the aroma installers include themes and other mods you'd have to download and flash separately all-in-one. Its not even necessary to wipe before an aroma installation because it includes the option to fully wipe and/or just wipe caches. Hope that helps
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Ok ima make it as clear as possible, it looks like you've rooted your phone and have a custom recovery, many people recommend team win recovery project (twrp) to install wicked, but if you can't find it that's fine, go into the playstore and download and App called ROM MANAGER now after you install it select RECOVERY SET UP and flash clock work mod recovery, you really don't need twrp I know that because I use cwm.
anyways once you have the recovery installed download wicked but before you flash it make sure that the MD5 matches the one on the website you've downloaded it from the md5 can be found on your file browser but you'll need file manager from the playstore and now look at the details for wicked and the md5 will be loading for a bit and once it's done it will show u the code so now make sure it matches otherwise it will just give u an error when you flash it.
Ok so now that you're ready to flash the rom, if your using twrp select wipe or wipe data, and it will automatically wipe you cache, dalvik and factory reset. For cwm press FACTORY RESET, WIPE CACHE and then go to ADVANCED and select WIPE DALVIK CACHE and now go to INSTALL ZIP (both recoveries) and select the 0/ folder and go to downloads and select it and it will take you to another set up and that's the aroma installer.
Now that you're in it just keep going forward until you see what you want installed from what theme you want, apps from Samsung and tmobile, other cameras from other phones like nexus or the Google edition of the s4 and once you keep pressing all the way to the end it will say GET WICKED and it will install whatever you've selected on aroma, then after it finishes it will say REBOOT and once the phone takes u to the set up screen don't touch it, leave there for 5-10 mins and then reboot and that's it
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