I was hoping someone could help me get things straight in my head before I proceed any further. Currently I am running stock w/root 1.47. The first thing I did was get titanium backup (donate version) and backup my apps and system data. This is where I am at a loss.
I want to be running a lean, fast phone with wifi tethering. Here are my questions:
I installed ROM manager, can this be used to test out different roms without rebooting into my recovery?
Is there a list of apps I can remove? I can use titanium backup to remove them (also, should I remove, pause, or delete?) Specifically I don't want things like sprint nascar, sprint zone, etc.
Will the roms remove my useless apps, or do I need to do it manually? Specifically I was thinking of installing baked snack.
Thanks
ROM manager has an option inside the app to boot you into recovery. No way around trying a new Rom other than going into recovery, wiping, and flashing.
Go to the android chef forum and search 'apps safe to remove' and it should turn up a thread that keeps a list of apps you can use.
Most custom roms, including baked snack, remove bloat apps (mostly Sprint apps)
Awesome, one more thing. I am trying to figure out what to backup using titanium backup. On my stock rom, lets say I have all the apps downloaded that I want to use. Do I want to exclude everything RED on titanium backup and just backup the green programs? When I flash to a new rom and go to titanium backup, if I backed up EVERYTHING and restore it, wouldn't it put the bloatware back on my phone?
Hey guys I have been flashing between roms recently and its really getting old having to redo all my settings everytime I flash a new rom.. how do I back them up.. I am currently running Fresh but I really want to go to the Cyanogen RC.. and those of you who have Cyanogen now..would you recommend it?
Yellowcard8992 said:
Hey guys I have been flashing between roms recently and its really getting old having to redo all my settings everytime I flash a new rom.. how do I back them up.. I am currently running Fresh but I really want to go to the Cyanogen RC.. and those of you who have Cyanogen now..would you recommend it?
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I use MyBackup because it can back up *.apk files and their associated data.
Titanium backup
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
The only backup app you will ever need
ROM manager backs up and restores everything for me when I switch from rom to rom. Just set up everything once while on each rom and create a backup for each to restore to. I also us Titanium backup to backup my apps but you don't need it if you just want to restore your settings and apps as you saved it in rom manager.
Sorry for sounding like a noob….because I am … lol
I couple weeks ago I rooted Evo using the
SimpleRoot OTA 1.47.651.1 method
Then Installed Fully rooted stock 1.47.651.1 in one shot (no adb!)
Did nandroid backup
Then I installed Sprint Lovers ROM (including 2.05.00.06.01 wimax/baseband radios)
Been enjoying, installing apps, customizing.
Use Titanium Backup to backup regularly
Now I want to try some other ROMs like CyanogenMod-6!
I now have installed Rom Manager
Flashed ClokWorkMod Recovery (2.5.0.1)
And did another nandroid backup
So now can I just flash a different ROM, use Titanium restore to restore applications such as K-9 Mail and all my settings/accounts/etc and these will work on the new ROM?
Then if I want, I just use nandriod restore and Evo will be exactly where I am today (with Sprint Lovers)?
If so, does restoring applications/data also work backing up on a 2.1 ROM and restoring on 2.2 ROM?
For the most part, yes. But there may be some issues restoring EVERYTHING from Ti back to a different ROM. Start with just apps you need, then accounts, see how that goes. I haven't had issues, but it might just be cleaner that way, and if it's not that difficult to just set up your accounts again, you could avoid potential issues that way.
But, yes, Ti should give everything back to you after the flash. Even scenes!
Also don't forget to wipe before flashing!
I've been running stock rooted 3.29 deodexed.
Finally decided to try out Myns Warm 2.2 today. Did a Titanium backup and a nand backup, flashed the new ROM. I wasn't expecting all my widgets, apps and homescreen settings to remain intact. Obviously I was pleasantly surprised when they were.
Two questions:
1) Is this normal behavior for any ROM (e.g., CM6) or just because Warm2.2 is a Sense-based ROM? How did it even know all my homescreen settings? Did Titanium restore them without my asking? (Yes I know that's three questions in one, sorry)
2) Why were all my homescreen icons/widgets doubled up on top of eachother?
I know these are probably basic questions but just based on everything I've read I was expecting to have to install Ti backup, restore my apps, and then re-setup my homescreens. So this was just really surprising to me.
Just noticed that it also retained the flash that I applied for the 4-in-1 reboot mode (hot reboot, recovery, etc). Color me confused.
Shane112358 said:
I've been running stock rooted 3.29 deodexed.
Finally decided to try out Myns Warm 2.2 today. Did a Titanium backup and a nand backup, flashed the new ROM. I wasn't expecting all my widgets, apps and homescreen settings to remain intact. Obviously I was pleasantly surprised when they were.
Two questions:
1) Is this normal behavior for any ROM (e.g., CM6) or just because Warm2.2 is a Sense-based ROM? How did it even know all my homescreen settings? Did Titanium restore them without my asking? (Yes I know that's three questions in one, sorry)
2) Why were all my homescreen icons/widgets doubled up on top of eachother?
I know these are probably basic questions but just based on everything I've read I was expecting to have to install Ti backup, restore my apps, and then re-setup my homescreens. So this was just really surprising to me.
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Hi there...well, as a noob myself I have learned that when you flash any NEW ROMS from different developers, you MUST wipe DATA, CACHE & DAVLIK/CACHE 1st. If you are upgrading from Myn Warms 2.2 3.29 OTA to 3.30 then you usually don' have to unless they tell you to. That's why your icons/widges are doubled up. Can't go from Stock rooted ROM to Myns...different development.
It will wipe everything on your system and install the ROM brand new as if you bought your phone that way. Items in your SD card will remain there...it does not wipe that. The NAND backup is good if for some reason your EVO goes haywire you can just do the old fashion Bootloader and go into recovery and get everything back. (I actually do this once a week just incase I need to go back to a place when my EVO was perfect...I delete any old ones so that I don't get confused.)
Once you flash the new ROM then go into titanium back up and restore everything. I use Mybackup Pro (Free for 30days to try out)...it saves my home/android screen so That I don't have to reset everything I have except for login into my POP mail server. Not a fan of Titanium but a lot of people seems to like it.
You may need to restore your Evo to that NAND you just did, then WIPE...then flash Myns. Also Myns ROM has the 4-1 reboot. I hope this helps...
Well that explains the 4-in-1 but I did wipe my cache and dalvik cache twice before flashing Warm2.2. I was not on Warm2.2 so this was a change from stock to Warm2.2. So I still don't see how all my settings were retained.
I'm not looking for a "clean" install of Warm2.2 - I'm merely trying to understand why it happened this way when I thought that it wasn't supposed to, and if this behavior is normal.
And just out of curiosity why don't you like Ti backup? I've always wondered if it really serves any good purpose since it seems like Nand backups all my apps anyways....?
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Well that explains the 4-in-1 but I did wipe my cache and dalvik cache twice before flashing Warm2.2. I was not on Warm2.2 so this was a change from stock to Warm2.2. So I still don't see how all my settings were retained.
I'm not looking for a "clean" install of Warm2.2 - I'm merely trying to understand why it happened this way when I thought that it wasn't supposed to, and if this behavior is normal.
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Unfortunately you will need to do a clean install when you go from one ROM to another. Even if the other ROM is a rooted stock ROM...still someone's ROM they created with the stock OTA.
You have to wipe DATA too, no way around it....because the system is rooted and different developers change the path to what they want to do with their ROM you can't flash MYNS on top of someone else's rooted stock ROM. It will conflict with one another (hence the overlapping of icons/widgets). That's why they created apps like Titanium and Mybackup Pro because it will be like a clean phone you just bought and instead of taking hours to set up your phone again...do a restore from one of the programs and you will be up and running with the new ROM.
I love Myn's ROM...
Shane112358 said:
And just out of curiosity why don't you like Ti backup? I've always wondered if it really serves any good purpose since it seems like Nand backups all my apps anyways....?
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The way I view NAND backup is like a system restore on your PC. I don't use it unless I want to make sure there is a good location for me to go back to just in case my EVO acts up.
I tried titanium backup...visually it doesn't give me confidence as a noob...mybackup pro is very simple and does its purpose.
honeyBfly said:
Unfortunately you will need to do a clean install when you go from one ROM to another. Even if the other ROM is a rooted stock ROM...still someone's ROM they created with the stock OTA.
You have to wipe DATA too, no way around it....because the system is rooted and different developers change the path to what they want to do with their ROM you can't flash MYNS on top of someone else's rooted stock ROM. It will conflict with one another (hence the overlapping of icons/widgets). That's why they created apps like Titanium and Mybackup Pro because it will be like a clean phone you just bought and instead of taking hours to set up your phone again...do a restore from one of the programs and you will be up and running with the new ROM.
I love Myn's ROM...
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Yeah I think I discovered your point. Myns ROM works flawlessly going from stock to Myns without a data wipe. But I just put on CM6 and had several FC and launcher problems. For some reason I never thought that wipe also meant data wipe...I was probably just trained by all the mod flashes I've been doing....
Shane112358 said:
Yeah I think I discovered your point. Myns ROM works flawlessly going from stock to Myns without a data wipe. But I just put on CM6 and had several FC and launcher problems. For some reason I never thought that wipe also meant data wipe...I was probably just trained by all the mod flashes I've been doing....
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I was always told to wipe everything when flashing one ROM to the next. But only wipe cache & Davlik/cache if your flash themes...Kernels or different MODS.
Two questions for you two since you both seem to know what you're doing
1. Did either of you use the special recovery images? (Clockwork/AmonRA)
2. I backup everything to Titanium Backup Pro...but if i wipe EVERYTHING that means Titanium Backup Pro will be gone as well...so how am I supposed to get everything restored if the app is gone?
1) Not sure, I use clockwork recovery but don't know what a special recovery image is.
2) My understanding is that you have to reinstall Ti backup, and whence forth it will find the old restore files that you can use to restore your apps.
Whenever installing a new rom it is best to do a FULL wipe meaning data,cache, and davlik. Even though there may not be any problems initially upon use, there will likely be some down the road. It's your phone though, do as you please.
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RTC88 said:
Whenever installing a new rom it is best to do a FULL wipe meaning data,cache, and davlik. Even though there may not be any problems initially upon use, there will likely be some down the road. It's your phone though, do as you please.
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So I did a full wipe last night and installed CM6. It installed just fine but my data didn't work....kept telling me that I didn't have a SIM installed. I could make phone calls though. I'll have to try again tonight but I did a restore so I had a functional phone today. Any idea why that happens?
Also I did a full backup with My Backup Pro so I'm assuming I can just reinstall My Backup Pro and it will find my backed-up data for restoration?
Could be a network problem on sprint's side.
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Two questions for you two since you both seem to know what you're doing
1. Did either of you use the special recovery images? (Clockwork/AmonRA)
2. I backup everything to Titanium Backup Pro...but if i wipe EVERYTHING that means Titanium Backup Pro will be gone as well...so how am I supposed to get everything restored if the app is gone?
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1. Yes...AmonRA.
2. When you use an APP like Titanium and Mybackup Pro...it saves your backup to your SD card and a full wipe does not wipe external memory cards only internal system stuff. So once you wipe and flash a new ROM...you need to go to market first and foremost to download whichever backup program you used and then order it to restore your phone. It will know the path in which it used to back everything up and pull from there. Follow the prompts.
Im rooted running stock rom and I have a fresh install of clean rom nanded which im trying to set up.my preferred method for years has been my back up pro, but 3 times now it has stuck on superuser and ive had to shut down the app portion of the backup.
I have titanium backup root installed and am leaning toward giving it a go since its the preferred method of most folks, but I forgot what NOT to backup and restore.
Wanna lend a hand?
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Backup everything (batch mode via check box in upper right corner), user and system
The thought on what to restore is generally:
- if you did a wipe and or reinstalled the same rom from when you did a backup, restoring user and system data should be ok and cause no problems
- if you install a new rom, and unless the rom dev gives an explicit on what should or shouldn't work
- user apps and data should generally be okay to restore
- system data is likely to cause problems when you restore. Once you become better acquainted with the roms and what they're based off, you can begin to stretch here. Ie, I know when I can and cannot restore sms system data (across tw roms likely; tw to or from cm or aosp, highly doubtful)
Hope that sheds some light.
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As it turns out I had reinstalled the pro rather than the root version of my backup. I prefer it because it doesn't let you restore system data, so there's no boinking up your new rom. But thanks for the history lesson, I couldn't find the batch function last night until I read your post.
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