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I currently own an iPhone 4 32GB on AT&T and I am considering a Windows Phone 7 device. Should I go ahead and sell my iPhone and purchase a device? I currently own a Zune (which I am selling) with a Zune Subscription (which I plan on keeping) and I am looking into selling my PS3 for an XBOX 360.
I have a lot of music, so that's what I do most. I also text and use the internet a lot, as well as check email. I also use Pandora quite a bit too (though with the Zune marketplace on the phone, probably not as much). I play games, but not often. I love the battery life of my iPhone. I also have an Otterbox to protect it's beauty. I am also a big fan of its screen and resolution. I use my phone as a camera too. Also, I want better navigation than what I currently get on my iPhone, which is MapQuest 4 (since the iPhone Maps sucks for navigation).
I have been considering the Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and the LG Quantum. Are there more for AT&T I should consider? I really like the Dell Venue Pro, but it seems like it's not offered for AT&T.
So, what do you guys think? Should I jump ship? By the way, I LOVED the Zune and it's interface, if that helps.
Well really the only one who can decide is you. I'd head to a mobile store and just play with one until they kick you out. I have an LG Quantum, here are some thoughts:
-the software keyboard is. a-may-zing. I can type almost as fast on it as i can with two hands on a desktop. Bar none, the best I've ever used. If you text, this will blow you away. It just knows what you meant to type
-the zune player leaves a LOT to be desired, sound quality wise. wp7 needs an eq app soon. It'll get one, but for now, expect a flat sound. Very dissappointing.
-I don't know why I'm reading bad things about it, but the new IE is so fast it's overwhelming. It renders things very very quickly. Better than my wife's iPhone.
-the interface and UI is awesome. It's honestly the next step in smartphone software. Very impressive especially once you get used to it
-great Facebook integration. It adds all your Facebook/SIM contacts/hotmail contacts to one "contacts" app. Which at first sounds like too much. But after using it, I never want to go back. If I want to get a hold of anyone I've ever met, no matter from where, they're in my contacts hub. I can then choose to email them, post on their wall, text them, or call them. It's so quick and easy
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Well really the only one who can decide is you. I'd head to a mobile store and just play with one until they kick you out. I have an LG Quantum, here are some thoughts:
-the software keyboard is. a-may-zing. I can type almost as fast on it as i can with two hands on a desktop. Bar none, the best I've ever used. If you text, this will blow you away. It just knows what you meant to type
-the zune player leaves a LOT to be desired, sound quality wise. wp7 needs an eq app soon. It'll get one, but for now, expect a flat sound. Very dissappointing.
-I don't know why I'm reading bad things about it, but the new IE is so fast it's overwhelming. It renders things very very quickly. Better than my wife's iPhone.
-the interface and UI is awesome. It's honestly the next step in smartphone software. Very impressive especially once you get used to it
-great Facebook integration. It adds all your Facebook/SIM contacts/hotmail contacts to one "contacts" app. Which at first sounds like too much. But after using it, I never want to go back. If I want to get a hold of anyone I've ever met, no matter from where, they're in my contacts hub. I can then choose to email them, post on their wall, text them, or call them. It's so quick and easy
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I have a question on the sound. Is it comparable to the Zune, better or worse? What about in comparison to the iPhone?
I want to play with it but work and college kind of get in the way.
Like said above, go into a store and play with one. I'm gonna have to agree to everything sure said, windows phone 7 is amazing..the user interface is incredible. I've only had my HD7 for 4 days and I can't put it down. It's so smooth, the social integration with Facebook and your contacts is genius. Go play with one I doubt you'll be dissapointed
mariolopezjr said:
I currently own an iPhone 4 32GB on AT&T and I am considering a Windows Phone 7 device. Should I go ahead and sell my iPhone and purchase a device? I currently own a Zune (which I am selling) with a Zune Subscription (which I plan on keeping) and I am looking into selling my PS3 for an XBOX 360.
I have a lot of music, so that's what I do most. I also text and use the internet a lot, as well as check email. I also use Pandora quite a bit too (though with the Zune marketplace on the phone, probably not as much). I play games, but not often. I love the battery life of my iPhone. I also have an Otterbox to protect it's beauty. I am also a big fan of its screen and resolution. I use my phone as a camera too. Also, I want better navigation than what I currently get on my iPhone, which is MapQuest 4 (since the iPhone Maps sucks for navigation).
I have been considering the Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and the LG Quantum. Are there more for AT&T I should consider? I really like the Dell Venue Pro, but it seems like it's not offered for AT&T.
So, what do you guys think? Should I jump ship? By the way, I LOVED the Zune and it's interface, if that helps.
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With that list. Go for it. Now your decision boils down to which one.
Zune player sounds just fine. He must have really bad headphones or something. But it's at the very least on par with the iPhone if not better.
However, OP, I recommend you stick with the iPhone 4 for now. Several reasons.
WP7 is currently bug infested. You should probably wait and see how and if Microsoft is going to deal with it. You also should generally wait until Mango to see whether WP7 will take off or not. It's a bit of a gamble as of right now.
If you insist on taking the chance with WP7, I recommend you wait for Nokia's WP7 phones. The current hardware is pretty good but Nokia phones will probably have nice exclusives and, if they base them on the concepts, will be the sexiest phones out there.
All signals essentially point to 'wait.'
Based on friends of mine who have made the jump, I'd say go for it. They all love the UX on Phone 7 and while the platform does miss some functionality today it's not something that you will notice on a daily basis.
In the end though, it's a question only you can answer, so I'll agree with most others here and tell you to go have a play with it in store.
I have been a long term Windows phone user (version 5, 6.1 and 6.5). Unfortunately my current MDA Vario has developed a speaker problem and I'm forced to get a new phone (T Mobile have previously 'fixed' the problem which has now returned)
What you tend to forget is that you shouldn't buy an operating system - you purchese functionality. The key thing is whether the phone can satisfy all your requirements.
As for me, Windows 7 doesn't currently satisfy 3 key requirements:
1. No internet tethering out of the box (you have to really delve down to make this work)
2. No turn by turn navigation
4. No decent ebook reader which can read either lit or mobi format (although the Kindle application has been issued, there is no easy way to load my old books which I haven't purchased from Amazon). All in all I'm very disappointed that MS Reader has not been upgraded
As a mainly business user, I'm not really too interested in Zune or Games and am a bit unhappy about syncronisation via the cloud. As a haooy Napster user (supported in 6.5), I would have to swop to Zune
So what have I decided. I have gone ahead and purchased a used HTC Diamon Pro 2 running 6.5. This will do everything I want and I will wait until Windows 7 finally catches up.
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1. No internet tethering out of the box (you have to really delve down to make this work)
2. No turn by turn navigation
4. No decent ebook reader which can read either lit or mobi format (although the Kindle application has been issued, there is no easy way to load my old books which I haven't purchased from Amazon). All in all I'm very disappointed that MS Reader has not been upgraded
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1. While I understand what you're saying it really doesn't ring true with me. If you own a Samsung you can enable tethering in 15 or so taps (including entering all the numbers).
2. Really? I have turn-by-turn on my Omnia7. Works great too. AT&T also seem to be offering some sort of navigational package, as does several other carriers around the world.
I can't comment on the ebook reader situation as I find the phone too small to read large chunks of text on anyway, but your point seems valid enough.
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As a mainly business user, I'm ... a bit unhappy about syncronisation via the cloud.
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Really? What's your problem with the cloud exactly? Not being confrontational here, just wondering what, if any, gripes you have about using a secure always available filestore. I can understand some people not wanting to store their confidential documents on a random SkyDrive, but as a business you can run a locked down Sharepoint server locally.
I moved from a 32gb iPhone 4 to a Samsung Focus on the basis of the strength of the Zune platform. There have been drawbacks to moving over to such a new platform (marketplace bug being one main one, lack of apps being another) but also benefits such as the close facebook integration, UI, live tiles and above all, the zune integration.
I've had no sense that the zune player quality is worse (nor better) than the iphone. The desktop client and zunepass blow iTunes away. There really is no comparison.
I would play around with current phones, but as someone above said, you may want to wait and see if they announce any Nokia phones in the April timeframe (MIX 11). Although I guess the resale value of the iP4 will decline after the iP4s/5 gets released this summer.
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Zune player sounds just fine. He must have really bad headphones or something. But it's at the very least on par with the iPhone if not better.
However, OP, I recommend you stick with the iPhone 4 for now. Several reasons.
WP7 is currently bug infested. You should probably wait and see how and if Microsoft is going to deal with it. You also should generally wait until Mango to see whether WP7 will take off or not. It's a bit of a gamble as of right now.
If you insist on taking the chance with WP7, I recommend you wait for Nokia's WP7 phones. The current hardware is pretty good but Nokia phones will probably have nice exclusives and, if they base them on the concepts, will be the sexiest phones out there.
All signals essentially point to 'wait.'
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A) No, my headphones are good quality. The PSP (generation ONE), and Samsung Omnia 2 blow it out of the water. They sound EQ'd, with presence and body. My Quantum just sounds flat.
B) After reading your post, you sound like a hater. So OP, please disregard his comments. Wp7 is not "bug ridden", it works just fine. Not sure why you insist on claiming getting a wp7 is "taking a chance". I think that description would be more apt to an Android phone, as the fragmentation has assured no one can tell which device will actually be good. As for wp7, there are hardware minimums across the board, and the software is smoother than silk. Haters gonna hate I suppose.
mariolopezjr said:
I currently own an iPhone 4 32GB on AT&T and I am considering a Windows Phone 7 device. Should I go ahead and sell my iPhone and purchase a device? I currently own a Zune (which I am selling) with a Zune Subscription (which I plan on keeping) and I am looking into selling my PS3 for an XBOX 360.
I have a lot of music, so that's what I do most. I also text and use the internet a lot, as well as check email. I also use Pandora quite a bit too (though with the Zune marketplace on the phone, probably not as much). I play games, but not often. I love the battery life of my iPhone. I also have an Otterbox to protect it's beauty. I am also a big fan of its screen and resolution. I use my phone as a camera too. Also, I want better navigation than what I currently get on my iPhone, which is MapQuest 4 (since the iPhone Maps sucks for navigation).
I have been considering the Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and the LG Quantum. Are there more for AT&T I should consider? I really like the Dell Venue Pro, but it seems like it's not offered for AT&T.
So, what do you guys think? Should I jump ship? By the way, I LOVED the Zune and it's interface, if that helps.
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No. You shouldn't, especially if you already have a Zune.
That's just my opinion.
I had almost the same exact decision to make a few weeks ago. I was going to upgrade and it was either the iPhone 4 or the Samsung Focus. I went with the Samsung Focus because I already have an iPad, but it truly is a great device. Theres some bug's with it, but I'm counting on Microsoft to fix them.
Things I like:
1. Camera button
2. Interface (duh)
3. Facebook integration (I like being able to add a contact and have it automatically pull in all that users information for me)
4. Nice keyboard (like it better than the iPhones, but it still has its gripes)
5. Zune Software instead of iTunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. Bigger screen (Focus has a 4 inch screen and it is a big difference from the iPhone's small 3.5 inch screen)
7. Bing voice search (this is something I show all my friends. I can just say "hamburger" and it finds all the local hamburger joints around me wicked fast)
8. Flash support is coming (http://wmpoweruser.com/flash-10-2-incoming-but-no-wp7-date-announced/)
Things I don't like:
1. Marketplace is very slow, laggy, and unstable
2. Battery life isn't quite as good as the iPhone 4
3. Camera settings reset (this is not a feature Microsoft...)
4. Not as good browser (no html 5, different format that isn't quite as mobile friendly, no reordering of bookmarks).
5. Apps need PERMISSION to run under the lockscreen. If they don't even have this option they must be relaunched after you unlock your screen (why?!?!?!)
6. Less API support
7. No multitasking (will be coming this year though)
All in all make the jump as you have a 30 day period to return it (I'm still debating). If you keep it and you end up not liking it after awhile you will be just in time to upgrade to the iPhone 6 when it comes out in 2013 (possible benefit?)!
mariolopezjr said:
I have a question on the sound. Is it comparable to the Zune, better or worse? What about in comparison to the iPhone?
I want to play with it but work and college kind of get in the way.
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I've never used a Zune so I can't comment, but see my other post about comparing it to other devices. My wife has an iPhone, but I've never tested them side by side (that would include hooking each one up to itunes/zune and transferring the same song, etc... I'm just way too lazy for that, sorry, at least I'm being honest)
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4. Not as good browser (no html 5, different format that isn't quite as mobile friendly, no reordering of bookmarks).
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See, there it is. I've been surfing on my phone since I got it... never had a problem rendering any site. Unless you're going to some flash-laden bloatfest, I don't understand how you can't think that this IE is fantastic.
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1. While I understand what you're saying it really doesn't ring true with me. If you own a Samsung you can enable tethering in 15 or so taps (including entering all the numbers).
2. Really? I have turn-by-turn on my Omnia7. Works great too. AT&T also seem to be offering some sort of navigational package, as does several other carriers around the world.
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1. That's one phone on one carrier. That doesn't work. If you have T-Mobile the Samsung hack will not work. It's an outliar, and non-factor in the grand scheme of things.
2. No one in their right mind pays for Turn by Turn on a smartphone unless they need offline maps. Why pay $10 a month for Navigation when an HD2 can do it for free in Windows Mobile with the Bing App? Or an Android phone with Google Maps? $10 a month is a lot to pay just for Navigation.
The only carrier that makes sense for is Sprint, since they give away their Navigation features for free if you have their $69 (soon 79) plan. But Sprint currently has no WP7 devices.
I can't comment on the ebook reader situation as I find the phone too small to read large chunks of text on anyway, but your point seems valid enough.
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That's your opinion, but you have pinch to zoom and automatic text restructuring in these apps that make it trivial to read. This wouldn't be a big issue if Microsoft had decent Skydrive integration in the phone. In that case you'd just need to upload them to you skydrive and find an app that can read that file format. But that isn't coming for over 6 months...
Really? What's your problem with the cloud exactly? Not being confrontational here, just wondering what, if any, gripes you have about using a secure always available filestore. I can understand some people not wanting to store their confidential documents on a random SkyDrive, but as a business you can run a locked down Sharepoint server locally.
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Some people just like to have better control over their stuff. There's nothing wrong with it and he doesn't have to have a problem to have this specific qualm with any smartphone platform. They are all a bit too cloud-centric, IMO.
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See, there it is. I've been surfing on my phone since I got it... never had a problem rendering any site. Unless you're going to some flash-laden bloatfest, I don't understand how you can't think that this IE is fantastic.
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There are HTML5 Mobile websites that are much better to use than their desktop (or WAP) counterparts on a smartphone browser.
touch.facebook.com >>> facebook.com or m.facebook.com on a mobile browser - by far. That is just one example. There are dozens if not more. HTML5 support being missing is a strike. NOt saying they need to implement the entire HTML5 Draft Spec tomorrow, but launching with basically no support for it was not a good idea, IMO.
With Multi-Tasking and third party browsers this would not be an issue, though, since we'd probably have Opera or some other Mobile Browser (probably WebKit) ported to it. If Microsoft had implemented a dual (Trident + WebKit) rendering engine, that would have been a killer feature... With the ability to set defaults on a site by site basis, of course.
N8ter said:
1. That's one phone on one carrier. That doesn't work. If you have T-Mobile the Samsung hack will not work. It's an outliar, and non-factor in the grand scheme of things.
2. No one in their right mind pays for Turn by Turn on a smartphone unless they need offline maps. Why pay $10 a month for Navigation when an HD2 can do it for free in Windows Mobile with the Bing App? Or an Android phone with Google Maps? $10 a month is a lot to pay just for Navigation.
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1. I disagree as it's not only achievable on the Samsung handsets (of which there are actually 2 available), the LG ones are just as easy. HTC handsets can also tether but IIRC, yes, you do have to dwelwe a little deeper. Point is, out of the 9 launch handsets, 4 can tether by entering a few numbers onto the phone - so do what people did way back when, chose a device based on functionality rather than looks. Also, as a business user, get yourself an off contract device - it costs the same (or in many cases less) in the long run, but gives you more choice. Also, don't forget the world is a lot larger than the US, the Omnia7 can be had on pretty much any network you like in Europe - on-contract if you so please.
2. I don't pay. Navigon came free with my off-contract Omnia7. Sure, I had to spoof the Navigon http server for map downloads other than Austria, Germany, Liechtenstein and Switzerland, but there is no monthly fee. I realize some of the other carriers do charge you (ATT being one), but the point here is that there are options available to you. Regarding paying for navigation, as much as I love Bing (or even Google) maps due to its satellite imagery it's not, IMO, a replacement for a dedicated navigational tool ... yet, and looking at the sales statistics for these apps on the iPhone, most people seem to agree with me.
I'm not condoning the fact Bing did not have turn-by-turn out of the box, far from it, but to broadly say "No turn-by-turn" available and use that as one of three reasons for dropping the OS is just wrong.
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That's your opinion, but you have pinch to zoom and automatic text restructuring in these apps that make it trivial to read.
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Of course it's my opinion. Pinch to zoom or text reflow makes no difference to me, I still don't like reading books on a 4" display. That's what tablets are for IMO. Like I said though, I wasn't really commenting on it and agreed that his point was valid.
N8ter said:
Some people just like to have better control over their stuff.
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Better control? How can you have better control than a correctly configured and secured Sharepoint server hosted by yourself? Sure, you could live in the old days and manually copy files on and off your phone, forever wondering if that really was the final version or the second to last draft or whether your colleague had amended it between your last sync and the presentation, but really. Are you serious?
Using your phone as a mass storage device was never a good idea - it was a stop-gap measure because at the time it was invented/popular we didn't have S3 or properly configured corporate networks that allowed users access on-the-go.
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See, there it is. I've been surfing on my phone since I got it... never had a problem rendering any site. Unless you're going to some flash-laden bloatfest, I don't understand how you can't think that this IE is fantastic.
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I'm not saying its a bad browser, it is in fact very good, but not quite as polished as iOS's Safari browser. I like to organize my bookmarks from most used -> least used, but WP7 only organizes them alphabetically. iOS use's WebKit for its browser which is more supported than IE's rendering engine (what is it?). If you go to gmail for example you will get a hampered down dump phone mobile view (this is simply for example, other sites do this as well).
Yeah, ironically IE renders mobile sites way worse than Android or iPhone. The websites are partly to blame because of course they have had lots of time to optimize for those platforms. I don't mind the rendering of full sites... sometimes the font sizes are way off, but overall not bad and at least it's quick.
All in all the browsing experience is not as good as the other mobile platforms. I've got high hopes that IE9 fixes that.
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hey there, i´m looking for a new smartphone and since i don´t want spend like 450 euro for a phone (that i don´t like for a 100% - i´m very picky....). i tried the galaxy s2 (kinda HATE the big home button, very cheap battery cover) and the sensation (lousy internal memory, very low "loud"speaker, wifi issues, and so on), again unfortunately i´m VERY picky.......
anyway, i stumbled over the win 7 phones which are at a very low price at the moment and the Optimus 7 is the one with the lowest price.
so i´m asking you if this device is good enough to spend some time with until new flagships (new android or maybe the galaxy s2 wp7) come out or does it have BIG known issues???
and could you tell me your results with the camera since i read somewhere that it isn´t THAT good....
thx!
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the LG optimus 7 is available for like 160 euro and the next step ahead would be the omnia 7 for 213 euro.
specially when i see THIS video, i´m not too sure anymore, which one to pick
no matter which one u pick u will love wp7 especially with the mango beta out. the Omnia has an AMOLED screen and people swear that it's the **** so if that matters to u than I would go for that otherwise go for the optimus 7
I came from Android to WP7 and love it. If you pick one up now, the specs might not look incredible, but everything just WORKS. I've been running the Mango beta, and I can't go back to NoDo now.
I love my HD7 & WP7. There are some design changes I'd like to see, but nothing deal breaking. What'd I suggest though, is to go to your local retailer & play with it in person & make your own choice/decision. everyone has their own tastes, so it's best to play with one yourself & make up your own mind rather then follow the opinion of others. For me, the biggest thing is that WP7 is very fast & smooth. The integration is also awesome. mango will only make things better. This being said, if you are big into hacking/customizing your device, WP7 is lacking in that area. Especially after Mango because of the INTEROPSERVICES block that has broken almost all homebrew apps (registry editor/etc.)
monkeytown said:
hey there, i´m looking for a new smartphone and since i don´t want spend like 450 euro for a phone (that i don´t like for a 100% - i´m very picky....). i tried the galaxy s2 (kinda HATE the big home button, very cheap battery cover) and the sensation (lousy internal memory, very low "loud"speaker, wifi issues, and so on), again unfortunately i´m VERY picky.......
anyway, i stumbled over the win 7 phones which are at a very low price at the moment and the Optimus 7 is the one with the lowest price.
so i´m asking you if this device is good enough to spend some time with until new flagships (new android or maybe the galaxy s2 wp7) come out or does it have BIG known issues???
and could you tell me your results with the camera since i read somewhere that it isn´t THAT good....
thx!
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the LG optimus 7 is available for like 160 euro and the next step ahead would be the omnia 7 for 213 euro.
specially when i see THIS video, i´m not too sure anymore, which one to pick
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I would not recommend WP7 alltogether because of limitations it gives.
But if you're into it, and yes WP7 can be very saisfying in many areas,
I can say - having still my LG Optimus 7 - that it's a very very good phone itself.
I would never trust LG but this phone is really robust and well designed and was a complete surprise to me.
It has hardware keys which I find very comfortable, not allowing any accidental press,
back cover is top noch metal and the whole phone looks 100 times better than on any photo, quite classy but not too much. All the hardware keys are great too. The screen is sweet, audio quality very good.
But the Camera:
In daylight it's great. You can make great photos and videos.
The whole problem is in the night & dark... Well the colours are OK but basically in those conditions pics are complete ****. Just blurry and not sharp, as well as videos. TBH not many modern phone cameras work in these conditions anyway.
doministry said:
I would not recommend WP7 alltogether because of limitations it gives.
But if you're into it, and yes WP7 can be very saisfying in many areas,
I can say - having still my LG Optimus 7 - that it's a very very good phone itself.
I would never trust LG but this phone is really robust and well designed and was a complete surprise to me.
It has hardware keys which I find very comfortable, not allowing any accidental press,
back cover is top noch metal and the whole phone looks 100 times better than on any photo, quite classy but not too much. All the hardware keys are great too. The screen is sweet, audio quality very good.
But the Camera:
In daylight it's great. You can make great photos and videos.
The whole problem is in the night & dark... Well the colours are OK but basically in those conditions pics are complete ****. Just blurry and not sharp, as well as videos. TBH not many modern phone cameras work in these conditions anyway.
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uhh yea stop spreading FUD naco he's looking for someone to help him purchase a wp7 device not for someone to deter him from purchasing a wp7!
If you're "VERY picky" then I wouldn't buy a Windows 7 phone.
Basically it's a *good* system, but it's clear from the lack of apps and the number of small niggles that it's an OS that is still maturing. I imagine Microsoft see this WP7 the same as the original Xbox; a way to get developers, phone carriers and hardware manufacturers on board, as well as iron out most technical issues, before the real battle; the launch of Windows Phone 8.
If you're the sort of person where just one little thing could ruin your enjoyment of the phone, then I'd probably recommend iOS (where everything pretty much just works as intended).
Oh and to answer your original question, yes I'm happy with my HTC Mozart, though there are a few frustrations with the system, and many apps that I miss.
extremely happy
If you find yourself only using 10-20 apps on other OS, odds are you will be perfectly happy with wp7. I think I have a total of 8 third party apps right now, I just don't need much that isn't already built into wp7.
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If you find yourself only using 10-20 apps on other OS, odds are you will be perfectly happy with wp7. I think I have a total of 8 third party apps right now, I just don't need much that isn't already built into wp7.
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exactly, and after mango there're gonna be much more built-in apps even if you'd like to use many apps, go right ahead, it won't slow down the OS (unlike android)
I would spend sometime playing with one in the shop and see what you think, I like my Ominia 7
eric12341 said:
uhh yea stop spreading FUD naco he's looking for someone to help him purchase a wp7 device not for someone to deter him from purchasing a wp7!
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You're FUD as a whole. As I see you get many warnings on this forum.
Don't reply to me if possible.
doministry said:
You're FUD as a whole. As I see you get many warnings on this forum.
Don't reply to me if possible.
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u stop posting bull**** I'll stop replying.
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u stop posting bull**** I'll stop replying.
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You keep replying. You don't even have the ability to understand what you read.
i have a HTC 7 Pro, and a Samsung Omnia 7.
Best Phones i've ever had.
Even Android Phones like Galaxy S (S II wasnt out back then), Nexus etc were simply bad after i used a WinPho7
Keep in mind that everyone has their own opinion, and this is mine.
I left android for a huge reason (one of the same reasons why I left winmo as well)
no matter how much a custom rom improved the experience, at little things, both OSes sucked at. I didn't want to buy apple because they are POS when you jailbreak them. That said, windows phone intrigued me after playing with it for a good 10 days. And when I had to go back to android or windows mobile, life was grim. I was bored with the constant rom flashing to get the device to work. even though miui was good for android and dutty was good for windows mobile, the experience overall was mediocre.
I am definitely enjoying windows phone and it gives me so much options
With Mango around the corner I can now recommend WP7 without hesitation as I know things like push notifications will be fixed soon. That's the only thing I don't like about WP7 along with some very poor Xbox Live games.
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domineus said:
I left android for a huge reason (one of the same reasons why I left winmo as well)
no matter how much a custom rom improved the experience, at little things, both OSes sucked at. I didn't want to buy apple because they are POS when you jailbreak them. That said, windows phone intrigued me after playing with it for a good 10 days. And when I had to go back to android or windows mobile, life was grim. I was bored with the constant rom flashing to get the device to work. even though miui was good for android and dutty was good for windows mobile, the experience overall was mediocre.
I am definitely enjoying windows phone and it gives me so much options
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thats a thing that bothers me, too....i already had a optimus speed for a couple of time and all i did was flashing a new rom again and again....
i already thought of an iphone too but since i already got a contract and have to buy the phone at the normal price, the iphone would be around 580 euro ;(
the perfect device would be a good out-of-the-box phone at a "normal" price where i don´t have to tweak everything myself
but thx for your answers
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thats a thing that bothers me, too....i already had a optimus speed for a couple of time and all i did was flashing a new rom again and again....
i already thought of an iphone too but since i already got a contract and have to buy the phone at the normal price, the iphone would be around 580 euro ;(
the perfect device would be a good out-of-the-box phone at a "normal" price where i don´t have to tweak everything myself
but thx for your answers
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sounds like wp7 may be just for you, its the best out of the box experience and there's no cluttered UI like ios or tiny (though admittedly clear) screen. wP7 never stops amazing me with all of its functionality.
indeed, it sounds pretty good to me
maybe i should wait till september?? i read somewhere that new phones will be released then and it´s my birthday too
I've been on iOS for years. Ever since my first Jailbreak, unlock, and IPA modding experiences I have loved iDevices. I had Windows mobile in the past and couldn't stand it. After reading about people praising the new Windows phone I wonder what people who have experienced both OS's think. I'm deployed right now but read some articles in my free time about the Lumia 900 and thought that maybe it would be a good time to give Windows another shot when I get home.
So if you have a lot of experience with both OS's which do you prefer? I'm not a fan boy of iOS by any means, it's just what I'm used to after so long.
I realize this post is based a bit more on the OS but that's really what will make or break my decision on purchasing the Lumia 900.
well i use an ipad running ios5 and samsung focus. I personally prefer the interface and like the "metro" style for apps over ios. ios is simple but i think it is "stupid" easy interface while windows phone is simple but not "stupid easy". The os seems more dynamic as is the xbox interface is nice. One thing i like is i can choose themes, which are a colors you can choose and most apps and everyone will become that color. I think that is a neat feature. So i say get the nokia lumia 900 as it is one of the only phones that matches the iphones build quality, design and ease of use(all windows phones). With over 65k apps and counting i dont think there is much of an app problem.
I agree, iOS is about as user friendly as an operating system can get. It never fails to amaze me when someone asks me to help them use a feature on their iPhone or look at my phone and ask how I did whatever it is that caught their attention.
Windows mobile, in the past, just did not flow well and from the demos I've seen on recent phones they've taken care of that.
How well do the Lumias hold up with multiple apps running in the background?
Best Bomb Tech said:
I agree, iOS is about as user friendly as an operating system can get. It never fails to amaze me when someone asks me to help them use a feature on their iPhone or look at my phone and ask how I did whatever it is that caught their attention.
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Bull****. Thats what you could sayfor iOS before WP7 came out. And now we can say it for WP7, until something (new)better comes out.
Saying that OS is made the best way possible is stupid and short sighted.
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Windows mobile, in the past, just did not flow well and from the demos I've seen on recent phones they've taken care of that.
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Bull****. Talking like WM and WP is the same thing, just fixed, is like saying that OSX is just fixed Ubuntu.
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How well do the Lumias hold up with multiple apps running in the background?
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Like any other modern phone OS; they don't.
Windows Phone supports background tasks like push mail, music, social networking etc. Applications are stopped when pushed to the background but they resume in a second or more - depends on the app.
Windows phone 7 disappoints me in these ways.
1. I feel confined. All my apps are not available.
2. multitasking fail(s). Apps close when put in the background. e.g. If you are navigating using Nokia's Drive app, and then check your email - the drive app closes and you lose your navigation.
3. home screen customization. not AS BAD as iOS, but you still are limited in what you can see / do from the homescreen. Live tiles are great, but the whole thing pales in comparison to what you can do with android.
Overall, I love the smoothness, intuitiveness, the look and feel, and especially the hardware of the lumia 800 (900 is likely to be the same), but I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth after using it for a day.
if you are content with using iOS, you may find WP7 to be a very nice change. Coming from Android, I get tired of not being able to control and customize everything my phone does. Just my 2 cents! =)
It handles the backgrounds task just fine, it is just some apps dont suport multitasking ans you have to wait for them to reload but that is it. Also a large majority of apps are mango apps.
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It handles the backgrounds task just fine, it is just some apps dont suport multitasking ans you have to wait for them to reload but that is it. Also a large majority of apps are mango apps.
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Yeah I think a lot of people don't understand that it is the app which needs to behave correctly in the new fake-multitasking environment. It's not M$'s fault that some apps still haven't implemented it properly.
Unicode Support
Does this version of Windows mobile with Nokia Lumia (I presume it is Windows Mango) support Unicode fonts... I am already fed up with seeing boxes for my Tamil language..
i am not sure
foxfire235 said:
Windows phone 7 disappoints me in these ways.
1. I feel confined. All my apps are not available.
2. multitasking fail(s). Apps close when put in the background. e.g. If you are navigating using Nokia's Drive app, and then check your email - the drive app closes and you lose your navigation.
3. home screen customization. not AS BAD as iOS, but you still are limited in what you can see / do from the homescreen. Live tiles are great, but the whole thing pales in comparison to what you can do with android.
Overall, I love the smoothness, intuitiveness, the look and feel, and especially the hardware of the lumia 800 (900 is likely to be the same), but I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth after using it for a day.
if you are content with using iOS, you may find WP7 to be a very nice change. Coming from Android, I get tired of not being able to control and customize everything my phone does. Just my 2 cents! =)
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I've just spent the better part of 2 years with Android. Though I've also owned the venue pro and hd7, my primary phone was android. I've recently come back to windows phone. I have the lumia 710, waiting for the 900 release. Though I to get the confined feeling, what helps me get by is the windows phone just works. My last 3 androids were plagued by data connection and wifi issues. Rooting and custom rooms introduced their own issues. No matter what anyone said s, there are stability issues when rooting and Modding. Period! My current Droid is the bionic. In all its dual core glory, side by side with the 710, my little low end, cheap ass T-Mobile phone works like a beast beside the bionic. Ive given up my hacking and slashing days, for now. I think the 900 will be just fine.
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Though I to get the confined feeling, what helps me get by is the windows phone just works. My last 3 androids were plagued by data connection and wifi issues.
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I was just thinking about this this morning, about how I am looking forward to trying a windows phone, and guessing that it probably "just works".
Though I will say, I am trying an android custom ROM right now called "Ligux" - it was developed by Chinese... it has the most reliable wireless connections - Wifi/mobile/even bluetooth - than any other ROM I've tried. It's done right.
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I was just thinking about this this morning, about how I am looking forward to trying a windows phone, and guessing that it probably "just works".
Though I will say, I am trying an android custom ROM right now called "Ligux" - it was developed by Chinese... it has the most reliable wireless connections - Wifi/mobile/even bluetooth - than any other ROM I've tried. It's done right.
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I doubt anyone can say, "it just works", and be able to say its a true statement. All electronics have issues in some way or form. From iPhone antenna gate, to data connections dropping, these forums are filled with issues people come across, in their particular world.
Custom roms are something else. Why custom roms? I suspect someone wanted to see just what open source could do, or rather, what one could do with open source. As problems cropped up, these 'cooks' started to see if they could fix something. And so on. I think now we're at a stage where its, look what I did. Custom rooms don't always mean better. In fact they usually aren't. But some, demonstrate what can be done...and its great to watch and play with. I walked into at&t this morning to pay a bill. It was galaxy note day. Its 5.1" of where will I put it. Its great to look at, but..I can't use it. There is no pocket stuffing this thing. He proceeded to tell me about android. I pulled out my bionic and talked with him. Then I pulled out my 710 and showed him a good alternative.
I'm giving up my bionic for the 900, if, it feels great in my hand. I know there are cool things the bionic can do. There are cool things the 900 can do too. I think the best thing to realize is, find those things you don't like as quickly as possible, and decide if you can live with them. If you can't, send them back. If you can, then, cool. Don't buy any phone based on a future patch, ability to jailbreak or root, or any app that might come out 'soon'. Buy the phone based on what you see and feel in your hand, right now. Take it home to try it out...that's $35 for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, its 2 yrs or $350 to fix the mistake...
The 710 has shown me that nokia, even a low end nokia, with mango, can hang with some of the big boys. My friends at Microsoft tell me, what's on the horizon is even better. I can't wait.
When you go from iphone to Lumia you will lose your proprietary data connection. To some this is not an issue but to others it actually limits the ability of your phone.
You won't be walking in to a retail store and buying "the next coolest dock/speaker" as your phone has no such connector, is limited in design and highly limited in buyers.
I am on WP but everytime I see a new JBL speaker or some cool dock that works on the iphone I get bummed.
Today in the Nokia MWC they showed off their phone with ala a top data connection. So a nice desktop dock means I have to turn the phone upside down or connect some damn wire instead of just clicking in.
TEH LAME
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When you go from iphone to Lumia you will lose your proprietary data connection. To some this is not an issue but to others it actually limits the ability of your phone.
You won't be walking in to a retail store and buying "the next coolest dock/speaker" as your phone has no such connector, is limited in design and highly limited in buyers.
I am on WP but everytime I see a new JBL speaker or some cool dock that works on the iphone I get bummed.
Today in the Nokia MWC they showed off their phone with ala a top data connection. So a nice desktop dock means I have to turn the phone upside down or connect some damn wire instead of just clicking in.
TEH LAME
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Yeah, true. But how many docks or speakers do you connect to during any day? For me, I connect to power and but during commute to the office. Then nothing until the ride home. Just don't have the opportunity to plug in much during a day.
But good thing to think about...
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Yeah, true. But how many docks or speakers do you connect to during any day? For me, I connect to power and but during commute to the office. Then nothing until the ride home. Just don't have the opportunity to plug in much during a day.
But good thing to think about...
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I get in and out of my car a lot in a day and the phone goes with me. Two plug ins every time and it isn't just a 'click n go'. Cry for me!
I love WP7, it's simply beautiful and works as you expect. Tried iOS, Android 4.0 and did not like them, used because I had to.
My only complain is the lack of separatre volume control for the music/system, which I hope is coming with Tango update.
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I love WP7, it's simply beautiful and works as you expect. Tried iOS, Android 4.0 and did not like them, used because I had to.
My only complain is the lack of separatre volume control for the music/system, which I hope is coming with Tango update.
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Don't count on that for Tango. Tango appears to be a side way update for a different hardware set. Should not consider it as any type of upgrade or update for Mango. Though there will be bug fixes introduced first in Tango, before they get to Mango, ie, the MMS bug fix has already been announced as a Tango first release, before it hits others, I would not be looking at Tango to introduce new features on existing and new NON Tango hardware. For medium to Hi End hardware, the next great leap, I think, will be Apollo and beyond.
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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You have two options. The Titan or Titan 2. There you go.
Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.
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Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.
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wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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So that battery lasts longer and to reduce world poverty.
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kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.
kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Depends. What do you need the phone for? For tinkering, business, gaming, etc.?
2) Most Apps have a great User Interface. Also, the experience is coherent across the apps and the system. The number of apps is ok.
I would adivse you to get a data plan with a smartphone. WP7 is intended as always-online phone. If you don't have a data connection you will miss out a lot of cool features.
If you have time I'd suggest for Windows Phone 8 as it is currently not clear weather existing phones will be update.
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i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
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No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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2) are the apps better than android apps?
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That you would even need to ask this question tells me you need to do a lot more research on the smartphone market in general. Windows Phone has fewer apps and no one I know has ever accused it of having "better" apps compared to Android. You need to figure out what apps you really use and see if Windows Phone has them. If you use 6 apps heavily and Windows Phone has them then it really doesn't matter if Windows Phone doesn't have 10,000 flashlight apps. Here's my setup...
Nokia Drive (Free GPS)
Whatsapp
Skype
Skydrive (cloud storage)
Netflix
ebay
Adobe Acrobat
Unofficial Samsung Remote
Facebook and Twitter support is built in. Of course you get MS Office as well.
There are a few others loaded but I don't use them much. I don't like a cluttered setup so I don't download a bunch of stupid apps that will only be used once or twice.
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.
4.7 Screen... you clearly have 2 option : HTC Titan or Titan II, both are AT&T Branded in US , Titan II are exclusive to AT&T.
HTC is the best choice in my opinion
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I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.
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With your phone connected to power cord, it will keep the wifi connection while locked/asleep.
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I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.
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Thanks a lot for this piece of information.
kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Up to you. I'm interested in getting a WP7 to play with.
2) Well, this is subjective. No, in my opinion. There are far less WP7 apps.
3) I'd say the Titan or Lumia, internally, there isn't much difference, They both have the same CPU etc.
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No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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Exactly , Id say its more like 99% ,most people that have an android phone really dont know how powerful it is ,same with the iphone (which apple generally under powers) but the average joes doesnt care ,windows phone is no different except the interfaces are all different , I would gather you dont have root or a custom rom or even recovery on that android device , you wont need it on the windows device either (windows device do have some customization but not like android) if your happy with what the manufacturer gives you, your happy with what the software gives you and your satisfied with the carrier ,all three platforms are fine might as well throw in Blackberry and bada and symbian as well ,if your not gonna do anything with it than what "they" want you to do!
If you like customizing stick with Android otherwise apple or Microsoft will be fine!
If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny
tfn said:
If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny
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yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?
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yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?
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No, you cannot.
The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.
Just like IOS apps are coming to android, so are most of the apps coming to WP7, although games wise Microsoft is doing its XBOX games unlike gamelofts on android eg: angry birds is already on wp7
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The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.
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it WAS FREE but it is no longer free, you have to pay like 40$ a month, so you can take that our of the equation.
My Brother's contract is up on his 2 year old iPhone4, he's looking to switch to Android and the HTC One-X on ATT. In laymen terms, what are the benefits he will see going from the iPhone4 to the new One-X ?
I will refer him to this thread to read.
Thank-you
Faster phone, bigger screen, better camera, LTE, customizable UI
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In My mind it dosn't if one would own the iPhone, iPhone2, iPhone3, iPhone4, iPhone5 or even the iPhone1000.
The iPhone hasn't improved since it got the MMS funktion!
The biggest difference between iOS and Android is "the future"
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wtf still got iphone 4 vs One X?? no iphone in this era anymore. its One X vs SGS3 nowadays and people get agitated cuz of it.
and as Flo95 said, "Faster phone, bigger screen, better camera, LTE, customizable UI" and sexy design too. and IOS6 is better known as Android 2.3.3 so you better get this one, 4.0.3/4.0.4 which is IOS9 i think.
HTC One X vs iPhone 5 in a few months. I don't like iOS but looking forward to what the new iPhone brings to the table.
Anyways to answer your question,
Android is open source unlike the closed source of iOS. You can customise till your heart bleeds.
Android is well supported by plenty of devs whether it be roms, applications anything.
The one x has a bigger screen so better for Web browsing and such.
The one x is newer and should pack a better camera than the ip4.
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Thank-you for the replies, I will show my Brother this thread.
I think the large screen, and LCD-2 720p display is much nicer than the iPhone4 display in my opinion. Viewing web pages on the One-X will be night and day better than the iPhone4, plus the One-X is overall a faster and smoother phone too.
the answer: lol
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HTC One X vs iPhone 5 in a few months. I don't like iOS but looking forward to what the new iPhone brings to the table.
Anyways to answer your question,
Android is open source unlike the closed source of iOS. You can customise till your heart bleeds.
Android is well supported by plenty of devs whether it be roms, applications anything.
The one x has a bigger screen so better for Web browsing and such.
The one x is newer and should pack a better camera than the ip4.
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This is first time i'm excited to see an iphone release though. Wanted to see their design. If it looks like the latest leaked picture, damn its kinda cool. Looks premium to me. But one thing why i wont buy iphone is, iOS and itunes. So unless u're good or familiar with itunes, u cant use it. ios, nothing to say, its very closed and controlled.
Might as well wait for iphone 5 if your brother can wait. Or convince it with ur gnexus first on what Android can do.
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This is first time i'm excited to see an iphone release though. Wanted to see their design. If it looks like the latest leaked picture, damn its kinda cool. Looks premium to me. But one thing why i wont buy iphone is, iOS and itunes. So unless u're good or familiar with itunes, u cant use it. ios, nothing to say, its very closed and controlled.
Might as well wait for iphone 5 if your brother can wait. Or convince it with ur gnexus first on what Android can do.
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Itunes is fine its the whole having to use Itunes to manage the phone is the issue. Itunes on the mac is excellent my choice of player. But no drag and drop is the main issue.
Jail broken devices are fine but for stock users it is a pain.
The iPhone is the only threat to android devices until Windows matures.
iOS is good for those who just want a phone to work and need no tweaks and such hence why many users like them. Whatever anyone says they market well and their customer service is good go into an Apple shop and they'll replace your device.
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iOS is good for those who just want a phone to work and need no tweaks and such hence why many users like them. Whatever anyone says they market well and their customer service is good go into an Apple shop and they'll replace your device.
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Uh.
No.
I do not like apple/iOS/iPhone.
But there is one big advantage on iPhone vs Android (actually 2 for me). Ofc jailbroken(As apple doesn't care much about this and warranty claims are easier. Just "update" or "restore" your phone and np)
1. Google lockinfo or intelliscreen. There is no REAL alternative to this in the Android world yet.
2. Hacking Exchange policy. Not even rooted devices can break the security on some device administrators. There are some but its either NO or ALL security option. On the iOS actually I could bypass the security pin and install Android style pattern unlock.
But thats just about it
The iOS/iPhone might stink and no where near Android but a jailbroken iPhone is on par with a rooted android in some stuffs, in others even better, some much worse
But I learned to live with it. I hated only one button and space used for stupid menus omni present. hooray android .... bleh 3-dot menu... wtf? hopefully next update will fix this nonsense.
Firstly I was an iPhone user of 3 years and last month purchased my first Android powered device, the HOX.
In my opinion (which I'm entitled to for the pyros' out there ;P) if you're the sort of user that just wants something to work then the iPhone just delivers that on a much more complete level.
So when coming from an iPhone and the Android system is used for the first time, the user will find it a bit more fragmented and the things you assume that should come stock in an OS may actually be an app instead.
The HOX is a better phone over all by a long shot. It is much faster and smoother than an iPhone 4 (which was my last iOS device) and the extra configuring you can do is great for those who can be bothered, but the down side is some of them are a bit bewildering as there is no layman's explanation of the setting, also you can only have the same tone for all types of notifications, so you cannot tell by the sound whether you got an sms or a social media update.
Screen size is a great step up, but is the batteries worst enemy. I found the external speaker to be not as loud as the iPhone, but the earpiece speaker for phone calls to be better. I find the touch keyboard on the HOX to not be as responsive and you need to be a lot more accurate when typing as sometimes nothing happens when I touch a letter when typing. You can instead choose to "speak" or "dictate" instead and this works very well indeed.
I use a MAC, so syncing my music is not an option unless I get an app. In my opinion the world has moved on from "drag and drop" PC's to mobile devices, so this is a let down as I don't think it's that hard for the manufacturers to make it sync with a few different PC operating systems. I found iTunes very simple to use, the wireless sync was great and comforting to know that if I lost my iPhone then the replacement would carry on from where the last one stopped.
I guess the rest is going to come down to how he uses his phone, so I can only try to give my experience with the HOX so far. I really like the phone, I don't miss my iPhone, sure some parts of the Android system frustrate me, but then so did iOS. All I can say is, give it time, you'll get over the pitfalls and really enjoy the device.
It's not really a question of One X vs iPhone, it's more Android vs iOS. Personally I have had 2 iPhones (3gs & 4) and hated them. I do not like iTunes one bit, but must admit the simplicity of the backup and restore function is fantastic because should you loose/damage your phone and need a replacement then your new hndest gets set up exactly how you had your previous one. That for me is the ONLY benefit of iOS/iTunes over Android. With Android you can do everything you can on iOS and so much more, there is a lot more freedom to customise to your liking. So as I said it comes down to iOS vs Android, and that's where the confusion begins because which Android handset do you choose??? I've had quite a few Androids now, Sony X10/ HTC Desire (2 of them) Desire HD, Sensation XE, Samsung GS2, and now the HOX. I plumped for the HOX for it's fantastic build and looks and prefer Sense over Samsungs TW. There are obviously alternative Androids out there but you wont go far wrong with a HOX, and by all accounts yet anothere OTA update is due in the next few weeks wich apparently makes it even more stable than it already is
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also you can only have the same tone for all types of notifications, so you cannot tell by the sound whether you got an sms or a social media update.
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This is not true, you can have a different tone for every single notification you get. In the main menu there is only a "Default Notification" setting, but in the apps themselves there is usually a setting to change the tone for that particular app, and there are also apps available on Play Store to download more for free
Ok, thanks, I'll look into that. That is one of the points I was trying to put across though.
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Ok, thanks, I'll look into that. That is one of the points I was trying to put across though.
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No worries. If you're new to Android it's something you might miss, but it is there. It's the same with anything though, moving from one OS to another be it on mobile/desktop or whatever, there are bound to be things that are done differently, it's just a case of geting used to it. Since moving to Android, I for one can say I will never go back to iOS, but each to their own. iOS definately has it's benefits and it's drawbacks as does Android, I'm no Fanboy (too old for that, lol), but it's going to be down to preference, and until you use both for a period of time then you're never going to find all those benefits or drawbacks. Some people just don't like change though and will prefer to stick with what they know, so to the OP, really your brother needs to get his hands on a HOX or another similar performing Android device and try it out for himself because no amount of forum posts is going to make his mind up for him
I am new to Android and not super tech savvy, but I find it all interesting and enjoy new exploring and learning new gadgets.
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I am new to Android and not super tech savvy, but I find it all interesting and enjoy new exploring and learning new gadgets.
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I've just posted this elsewhere, but if it helps a little, to change your tone from the default notification one you ave set in a different app, go to the specific app, lets say SMS....In the top right click the 3 Dot Menu > Settings > Notifications....In there you can change to the tone you want for SMS. It will be the same in Gmail, Calander etc....Not all apps will do this but "most" will. To add your own custom tones e.g. downloaded from the internet, create a folder on the SD card and name it Notifications. Drop the tone you want in there, reboot your phone and the new tone should be available in any notification menu. Since you say you're new to Android, Welcome
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I've just posted this elsewhere, but if it helps a little, to change your tone from the default notification one you ave set in a different app, go to the specific app, lets say SMS....In the top right click the 3 Dot Menu > Settings > Notifications....In there you can change to the tone you want for SMS. It will be the same in Gmail, Calander etc....Not all apps will do this but "most" will. To add your own custom tones e.g. downloaded from the internet, create a folder on the SD card and name it Notifications. Drop the tone you want in there, reboot your phone and the new tone should be available in any notification menu. Since you say you're new to Android, Welcome
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Thanks again, I usually keep away from forums due to the negativity towards people who don't understand or are a little clueless are treated like they should have been born knowing all this stuff, but your contribution has been more refreshing.
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Firstly I was an iPhone user of 3 years and last month purchased my first Android powered device, the HOX.
In my opinion (which I'm entitled to for the pyros' out there ;P) if you're the sort of user that just wants something to work then the iPhone just delivers that on a much more complete level.
So when coming from an iPhone and the Android system is used for the first time, the user will find it a bit more fragmented and the things you assume that should come stock in an OS may actually be an app instead.
The HOX is a better phone over all by a long shot. It is much faster and smoother than an iPhone 4 (which was my last iOS device) and the extra configuring you can do is great for those who can be bothered, but the down side is some of them are a bit bewildering as there is no layman's explanation of the setting, also you can only have the same tone for all types of notifications, so you cannot tell by the sound whether you got an sms or a social media update.
Screen size is a great step up, but is the batteries worst enemy. I found the external speaker to be not as loud as the iPhone, but the earpiece speaker for phone calls to be better. I find the touch keyboard on the HOX to not be as responsive and you need to be a lot more accurate when typing as sometimes nothing happens when I touch a letter when typing. You can instead choose to "speak" or "dictate" instead and this works very well indeed.
I use a MAC, so syncing my music is not an option unless I get an app. In my opinion the world has moved on from "drag and drop" PC's to mobile devices, so this is a let down as I don't think it's that hard for the manufacturers to make it sync with a few different PC operating systems. I found iTunes very simple to use, the wireless sync was great and comforting to know that if I lost my iPhone then the replacement would carry on from where the last one stopped.
I guess the rest is going to come down to how he uses his phone, so I can only try to give my experience with the HOX so far. I really like the phone, I don't miss my iPhone, sure some parts of the Android system frustrate me, but then so did iOS. All I can say is, give it time, you'll get over the pitfalls and really enjoy the device.
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Hey there, welcome to android for starters lol
Just with the syncing of music, I use double twist player on my phone and pc. The pc version mirrors your itunes library and playlists and allows syncing wirelessly as well.
I know its not the same as syncing directly, but I find it's the next easiest thing especially if you have playlists or just want to sync wireless
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Hey there, welcome to android for starters lol
Just with the syncing of music, I use double twist player on my phone and pc. The pc version mirrors your itunes library and playlists and allows syncing wirelessly as well.
I know its not the same as syncing directly, but I find it's the next easiest thing especially if you have playlists or just want to sync wireless
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Thanks, I discovered the app today and downloaded it but have not yet used it.
No wanting to derail this thread any more, so thanks to all who have been helpful.
My Brother having the cold shakes like a crack addict without his Apple
I setup his One-X the way I would use it, some cool Widgets, a few good apps, runs fast and smooth, looking great. He's all like the power button on top sucks, hard as hell to turn the screen on one handed, where the iPhone has easy middle thumb button to turn the screen on. ( personally I HATE that thumb button on the iPhone ) He said the One-X is very wide, hard to one hand and hit the back button.
He is freaking out with the big adjustment LOL Never been away from the walled garden before
I told him give it at least the full month you have to return it, can't give up on it after just a couple of days, you'll need 2 to 3 weeks to adjust.