1- why is this bigger. the only difference between this and the hd2 is the supported 3g bands
2- will it work on in my country? we use 2100/900mhz here for the 3g bands but i saw some people people use the 3g on a US-Tmo g1 (2100/1700) work fine. can i assume that this will safly work here. the HD2 is much more expensive here.
3-why is this getting a seporate forum? why not just be a subforum of the htc leo
4- why does this need a different hspl? also will normal cooked work on this?
3. Probably because it isn't a HD2? Sure it looks pretty much the same, but besides that, they aren't really the same at all...
opps.. talk about getting confused and posting in the wrong forum
would a mod please delete this thread. i was confusing this with the tmobile hd2
sorry my bad
verizon
will the evo work for both voice and data on vzw?
biswasd said:
will the evo work for both voice and data on vzw?
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EVO is on Sprint, not VZW. Seeing as VZW does not have or do WiMax then 4G is a no go.
Can the EVO *theoretically* work on VZW for 1xrtt voice/data and EVDO 3G data seeing as it is a CDMA phone and Sprint and VZW use the same CDMA bands? Theoretically, maybe, but not gonna happen anytime soon.
I know that China has had CDMA for years and recently in the last few years CDMA 2000 so I am wondering if anyone can confirm this phone being able to work in China?
I know that 4G wont work, until they get a network up even if it is the one that HTC EVO can use is gonna be a miracle, but honestly 3G and 3.5G is enough for now.
I honestly cant see myself using any other phone then this and have already bought it so anyone that can confirm this can put my heart at ease.
I would really like an answer or opinion on this subject.
please and thanks
Hi all,
I am interested on purchasing a HTC Evo 4G from ebay to replace my G1. I do have a couple of questions before I jump both feet in it.
(This will be assuming that I get the device unlocked and rooted with CM7RC2 or CM6Stable for Evo4G):
1- Does the Evo 4G even work on the Roger's network in canada? I got 2 years left on my contract.
2- On ebay, phones with "bad esn's" are cheaper. Would a bad esn stop me from using it here on roger's?
3- I am guessing that the sim card from my G1 be used on the Evo4G?
Thanks in advance,
Heeter
All three questions can be answered at once. The Evo uses the CDMA network, whereas Rogers uses GSM. Simply put, you can't use an Evo on Rogers.
Great, Thanks a million, for your response.
Heeter
Is the T-Mobile G2 or HTC Desire Z open for 4G networking? I was going through my billing information and it said additional $20.00 for 4G services but at the top of my phone it says 3G? IDK if it is because of root etc. But I was wondering if this phone is 4G. Leave comments and please support my question. Thanks ahead!
Mine runs 4G, so yes its open to it.
The G2 supports HSPA+ on T-mobiles '4g' network.
Or are you wanting to buy the desire Z and use it in the US?
And you shouldnt be getting billed extra for 4G. That's Sprints thing.
I think on the G2, "H" shows "4G" services.. I could be wrong though. I have a Desire Z.
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Or are you wanting to buy the desire Z and use it in the US?
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They have the same radios apart from frequencies. I believe the Desire Z is more suited for AT&t bands?? [EDIT: Wrong, DZ is UTMS 900/2100]
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And you shouldnt be getting billed extra for 4G. That's Sprints thing.
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Thats daylight robbery if you are!! On this phone, "4G" isn't any more than "3G" HSDPA with a higher uplink speed, Thats good marketing on their part.
I used to switch off HSDPA (HSPA+) on my phones for much better battery life.
Craig
Should I contact T-Mobile. Because it charges me on my billing but i don't have it... If I ask would they disapprove of helping me because of my rooted phone. Could.this just be an error?
I heard somewhere on xda that sometimes "H" shows when you are still only on 3G, that they were overemphasizing the H instead of the G or something of that nature.
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Should I contact T-Mobile. Because it charges me on my billing but i don't have it... If I ask would they disapprove of helping me because of my rooted phone. Could.this just be an error?
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Thats your call mate, I don't know how T-Mobile USA does its billing. That could be your data plan or something. However, I dont think they'd disapprove about the rooted phone TBH, just don't tell them. You could confirm you're in a "4G" (HSPA+) area with a simple query. Also, if its a custom ROM (Cyanogen etc) ask in their thread to see if they have a similar issue.
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I heard somewhere on xda that sometimes "H" shows when you are still only on 3G, that they were overemphasizing the H instead of the G or something of that nature.
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Yeah, I'd heard similar. On the UK stock Desire Z it constantly sits at "3G" until data is in use then it negotiates "H" (depends on network support) A very good battery saving feature if you've ever used Windows Mobile phones!
Craig
So what is the average speed everyone is seeing?
I just went on a month-long road trip, taking my G2 out of the new orleans hspa coverage area for the first time, and I noticed a marked difference between hspa (H) and 3G (G) coverage. And edge might as well be no connection at all, it would seem. My friend uses verizons cdma networks, and while a lot of times he didnt have data connectivity either, he at least had phone capability, which was more than i could say for t-mobiles gsm. but now that im out of the desert and back in the city, my phone is the rad again.
The Desire Z/G2 does NOT have 4G or/and "4G".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
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The Desire Z/G2 does NOT have 4G or/and "4G".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
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nothing you can buy today meets the technical definition for '4g' and nothing will for quite awhile.
my G2 is just as fast as my Friends EVO on Wimax, and my friends Thunderbolt on LTE. so as far as me and the general consumer should be concerned the G2 is a 4G phone because it offers significantly faster data speeds compared to 3G only devices.
So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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the problem is the definition of 4G. there isn't one.
the G2 is hspa+ capable, if you have a signal.
verizons LTE is multitudes faster up and down.
there is _NO_ such thing as 4G.
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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So you're asking this because of the billing, right?
I assume you are seeing this on the bill (or something similar): "4G Web Unlimited $30.00"
That's just the way Tmo describes the "unlimited web" on the bill. I don't *think* there's any difference between the dollar amount for say the G2 and the MyTouch 3G, for the data plan.
And, for what it's worth, I'm seeing up to 10mbps down and *up to* 4mbps upload around here... That's close enough to true 4G for my purposes. Beats the pooh outta my DSL line
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So you're asking this because of the billing, right?
I assume you are seeing this on the bill (or something similar): "4G Web Unlimited $30.00"
That's just the way Tmo describes the "unlimited web" on the bill. I don't *think* there's any difference between the dollar amount for say the G2 and the MyTouch 3G, for the data plan.
And, for what it's worth, I'm seeing up to 10mbps down and *up to* 4mbps upload around here... That's close enough to true 4G for my purposes. Beats the pooh outta my DSL line
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There isn't. Even if you have a ****ty ten dollar feature phone, your gonna pay thirty bux and its gonna say 4g on the bill.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA Premium App
I AM VS4 said:
So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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For the purpose or your original question yes, its "4G" capable, in a "4G" area it should be showing "H". Someone who uses the MIUI rom may be able to confirm this. On the stock DZ rom, "H" is both HSDPA and HSPA+
The confusion comes from the definition of "4G" or the lack of! The ITU who maintain telephony standards define "4G" as LTE-Advanced or WIMAX (802.16m). T-Mobile successfully argued with the law that they could market their HSPA+ offering as "4G" on their "new network" which in reality is just a simple upgrade.
For the record, speedtest reports about 3Mbps down and 1Mbps up which is quite respectable. I believe its on HSPA+ at 14.4Mbps.
Okay I get it! They are charging me for the coverage and capability. This means that the phone is cabable. But how come it says 3G though I'm still a little concerned even though it is possible for me to have 4G how come I am paying for something I don't have. Is says 3G loud and clear! At no point has it said 4G but why is it that I am paying for it?! But I do understand your answers... Just answer me that question..
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Okay I get it! They are charging me for the coverage and capability. This means that the phone is cabable. But how come it says 3G though I'm still a little concerned even though it is possible for me to have 4G how come I am paying for something I don't have. Is says 3G loud and clear! At no point has it said 4G but why is it that I am paying for it?! But I do understand your answers... Just answer me that question..
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The 3G vs 4G vs H vs H+ is potentially just a matter of graphics or icons?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993824
*edit: you appear to be in Houston, so you should be covered by HSDPA*
Download "Speedtest" app, by Ookla, and run a couple tests. See what you get for speeds.
In settings - about - network what does it say?
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only 3.5g
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Wondering if there are any radio updates for the regular 3G mobile network and wifi radios?????
This phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned.
I am on Long Island in NY, so 4G and 4G LTE is non existant.....Sprint has no towers or plans to put them up according to CS.
Side by side, my EVO 4g has a pinned wifi signal and pinned 3G while in my room where I have my router and I had to get an Airrave from Sprint for regular calls....Yes it's that bad. At the same time on my new Galaxy Nexus in the same place I have 1 bar cell phone, no 3G and 1 bar on Wifi
So I am assuming the radios suck.
I constantly drop calls on the Gnex which never happened on the HTC EVO.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
Anybody home????LOL
Is it that bad of a question????LOL
I simply can't find an answer.
Is there another forum that will answer this?
Thanks
Steve
Dude check out the development forum. Tons of new flashable radios in there. I just got done flashing fg01 myself