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Still learning in the scene but I rooted my phone sometime 1 month ago and now using MikFroyo custom rom. Now I hear you can overclock the device to get a better benchmark on the device. My question is how ??
Please be easy on me lol. I am coming from a iPhone which is pretty pampered over there.
Thanks.
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Then what I am setting ? Like I see the max @ 998400 min 245000..... Should I change the scaling ?
thanks.
You need a custom kernel first. Developement section's got a nice selection, with tons of posts showing peoples set-ups.
Don't get too caught up in benchmarks. A better score doesn't necessarily mean it is faster in real world usage. More for braggin rights than anything else.
Welcome to the EVO forum.
Its a great way to heat up, shorten battery life and cause more force closures. Good Luck!
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Then what I am setting ? Like I see the max @ 998400 min 245000..... Should I change the scaling ?
thanks.
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You can't overclock with a stock kernel. Like chris66 said you gotta go with a custom one.
Check out netarchys kernels, great work he does.
What is a safe range for battery temp.? I'm running in the mid 90s F. Sometimes it even gets up to 104 or so....... ?
cpu settings are built into CM7 now, thats how i manage it
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What is a safe range for battery temp.? I'm running in the mid 90s F. Sometimes it even gets up to 104 or so....... ?
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That's normal. Basically, if you get to 50C (122F), then it's time to shut off your phone and yank the battery then stick them both by the window. Android will start *****ing at you that it's too hot at that point.
Hi guys, i've been looking into many threads and reading a lot of posts and asking a lot of questions. however i know that their is not for sure answer to this but i would like to see what you guys believe to be your best kernel for battery and performance. i have seen people say it is Godmode (v9), Tiamat v4.1.0, Tiamat v3.3.7, and Savaged-zen v2.2.1. (ALL of these ARE with SBC-OFF). i just want to know what is you best kernel at the moment for your evo with decks or cm7.
Side Question: what is the difference between the governors: (Interactive, InteractiveX, Smartass, SmartassV2, Savaged-zen, and Lag Free)?
- Thank You
I like Tiamat 4.1.0, but I can't help you for your side question. I'm still new to development and rooting
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I like Tiamat 4.1.0, but I can't help you for your side question. I'm still new to development and rooting
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i know you said your new but im just wondering have you tried any other kernels?
and what is your battery life with Tiamat 4.1.0
I've used damn near every kernel available for CM7. And by far the BEST kernel for battery life is Savaged Zen. I'm on a stock battery and it just seems to last forever. Add to that the fact that the battery lasts all day without sacrificing performance at all. Every phone is different and you may or may not see the same results. This is just what has worked for my phone. Honestly, your best bet is to get flash happy with various kernels until you find one that gives you the performance and battery life that you're looking for. By the way, I use SVZ Manager with my kernel so that I can toggle SBC on and off as I please. It's a nice apk that gives you some flexibility.
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i know you said your new but im just wondering have you tried any other kernels?
and what is your battery life with Tiamat 4.1.0
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I've tried Tiamat 4.0.8 and a Savaged Zen kernel (can't remember which version). They both gave me about 12 hours of battery life on an average day(for me). But an average day for me is going to school, so I'm not on my phone as much. I haven't gotten to really test the battery life because I haven't looked at it on the weekend when I'm not at school. But like Concordium said, every phone is different! Try them all!
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I've used damn near every kernel available for CM7. And by far the BEST kernel for battery life is Savaged Zen. I'm on a stock battery and it just seems to last forever. Add to that the fact that the battery lasts all day without sacrificing performance at all. Every phone is different and you may or may not see the same results. This is just what has worked for my phone. Honestly, your best bet is to get flash happy with various kernels until you find one that gives you the performance and battery life that you're looking for. By the way, I use SVZ Manager with my kernel so that I can toggle SBC on and off as I please. It's a nice apk that gives you some flexibility.
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at the moment i am using the latest svz kernel with the svz manager as well. i have been flashing many kernels and for a while i was happy when i used the godmode kernel my phone lasted me 1 day and 6 hours, however he is no longer updating his kernels =( i'm hoping to find another kernel such as that one that will give me around the same results ^_^
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at the moment i am using the latest svz kernel with the svz manager as well. i have been flashing many kernels and for a while i was happy when i used the godmode kernel my phone lasted me 1 day and 6 hours, however he is no longer updating his kernels =( i'm hoping to find another kernel such as that one that will give me around the same results ^_^
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I liked Godmode. But it didn't seem to give me as good battery life as savaged zen has given me. Each phone is different though.
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I liked Godmode. But it didn't seem to give me as good battery life as savaged zen has given me. Each phone is different though.
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well im testing this one out at the moment and it has given me so far 17 hours and 20 mins, still at 31% battery, im just not sure if it'll do better than godmode did, at the moment im running it on the smartass kernel and i ran godmode on interactive so maybe that is the prob... however another issue is i've heard that svz is no longer updating as well... do u know if this is true? and one random thing that only a few people have told me is that they run on performance and overclock their phone and get the best battery from it, is that possible or a lie?
Edit: it lasted 20 hours and 53 mins, so since it didn't do as good as GodMode did then im gonna try the tiamat 4.1.0 now cause it has first place in the poll atm.
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well im testing this one out at the moment and it has given me so far 17 hours and 20 mins, still at 31% battery, im just not sure if it'll do better than godmode did, at the moment im running it on the smartass kernel and i ran godmode on interactive so maybe that is the prob... however another issue is i've heard that svz is no longer updating as well... do u know if this is true? and one random thing that only a few people have told me is that they run on performance and overclock their phone and get the best battery from it, is that possible or a lie?
Edit: it lasted 20 hours and 53 mins, so since it didn't do as good as GodMode did then im gonna try the tiamat 4.1.0 now cause it has first place in the poll atm.
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Its true that its not being updated anymore. It sucks but I plan to ride it out as long as the kernel functions properly with CM. Once it starts screwing up then I'll switch.
Those who say they get the best battery life by overclocking and putting their phone on performance are full of crap. Performance governor is basically the polar opposite of Powersave. Performance keeps your cpu constantly running at a high frequency. Logic states that overclocking to 1.13 ghz and perpetually running at that frequency requires more power than running at 245 mhz. The more power required the less time your battery will stay alive. Powersave gives you best battery life but gives you crap performance. Interactive, Smartass, and Ondemand give you a balance of performance and battery life. Performance gives you the best performance but crap battery life.
By the way, do you really need a phone that can stay off the charger for more than 21 hours? :-x
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Its true that its not being updated anymore. It sucks but I plan to ride it out as long as the kernel functions properly with CM. Once it starts screwing up then I'll switch.
Those who say they get the best battery life by overclocking and putting their phone on performance are full of crap. Performance governor is basically the polar opposite of Powersave. Performance keeps your cpu constantly running at a high frequency. Logic states that overclocking to 1.13 ghz and perpetually running at that frequency requires more power than running at 245 mhz. The more power required the less time your battery will stay alive. Powersave gives you best battery life but gives you crap performance. Interactive, Smartass, and Ondemand give you a balance of performance and battery life. Performance gives you the best performance but crap battery life.
By the way, do you really need a phone that can stay off the charger for more than 21 hours? :-x
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no i do not but! 3 days of the week im at school doing nothing for 8-10 hours so... i think if my phone can run longer than a day w/o charging then it mean i can play games on my phone while waiting and by the end of the day i'll still have battery. and does it make sense for someone to get better battery life on interactive than on smartass?
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no i do not but! 3 days of the week im at school doing nothing for 8-10 hours so... i think if my phone can run longer than a day w/o charging then it mean i can play games on my phone while waiting and by the end of the day i'll still have battery. and does it make sense for someone to get better battery life on interactive than on smartass?
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Well Smartass, as I've heard it described, is sort of like Interactive 2.0. It's basically the interactive governor but better. Unfortunately, I do not know enough of the exact specifics of the governors to tell you which SHOULD be getting better battery. I would just run each of those governors and see which one works better for you.
And I thought your phone already lasted 21 hours with a decent amount of usage. You need to test the governors/kernels in the exact situation you are going to be using the phone. Interactive, Ondemand, and Smartass would all manage the phone pretty much the same if you just leave it alone and let it sit till the battery drains. but they each manage the power allocation supplied to the cpu very differently during actual use. One ramps up the voltage quickly while one scales it up more gradually. So take your charger with you to school, in case you run into trouble, and use the phone as you believe you will be using it in the future. Then you'll have a more accurate idea of which setup works best for you.
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Well Smartass, as I've heard it described, is sort of like Interactive 2.0. It's basically the interactive governor but better. Unfortunately, I do not know enough of the exact specifics of the governors to tell you which SHOULD be getting better battery. I would just run each of those governors and see which one works better for you.
And I thought your phone already lasted 21 hours with a decent amount of usage. You need to test the governors/kernels in the exact situation you are going to be using the phone. Interactive, Ondemand, and Smartass would all manage the phone pretty much the same if you just leave it alone and let it sit till the battery drains. but they each manage the power allocation supplied to the cpu very differently during actual use. One ramps up the voltage quickly while one scales it up more gradually. So take your charger with you to school, in case you run into trouble, and use the phone as you believe you will be using it in the future. Then you'll have a more accurate idea of which setup works best for you.
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just wondering what do you keep your cpu settings at: the governor, cpu min & max?
When I am plugged into my wall charger I keep it at 1113/245. I use Performance for benchmarking and testing since I don't need to worry about battery life and Smartass when doing everything else. For normal every day use I have it at 1036/245/Smartass, Interactive, or Ondemand. I don't really have a preference between the three governors since they all make my battery last more than long enough. So it usually comes down to whichever my clumsy finger happens to accidentally select first. If I happen to not go home and need more life then I'll drop to 729/245/Conservative or Powersave. I use conservative if I still need to be able to use the phone a bit and powersave if I want my phone to just sit there and look pretty till I get back home.
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When I am plugged into my wall charger I keep it at 1113/245. I use Performance for benchmarking and testing since I don't need to worry about battery life and Smartass when doing everything else. For normal every day use I have it at 1036/245/Smartass, Interactive, or Ondemand. I don't really have a preference between the three governors since they all make my battery last more than long enough. So it usually comes down to whichever my clumsy finger happens to accidentally select first. If I happen to not go home and need more life then I'll drop to 729/245/Conservative or Powersave. I use conservative if I still need to be able to use the phone a bit and powersave if I want my phone to just sit there and look pretty till I get back home.
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why is ur lowest 245 and not 128? sorry if im bugging you
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why is ur lowest 245 and not 128? sorry if im bugging you
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You're not bugging me man. This place exists so people can ask questions and get help.
I keep my min at 245 because I've read, in multiple places, that allowing it to go any lower is not something your cpu really appreciates. Just like there is such thing as too high with your clock speed there is also a too low. And everywhere I have seen 245 is the preferred low end. I am not 100% sure as to why but I would assume that it is because your cpu needs at least a certain amount of power to run the basic processes required to keep your phone functional. Similar to a computer. Lower the cpu too much and it just can't do what it needs to.
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You're not bugging me man. This place exists so people can ask questions and get help.
I keep my min at 245 because I've read, in multiple places, that allowing it to go any lower is not something your cpu really appreciates. Just like there is such thing as too high with your clock speed there is also a too low. And everywhere I have seen 245 is the preferred low end. I am not 100% sure as to why but I would assume that it is because your cpu needs at least a certain amount of power to run the basic processes required to keep your phone functional. Similar to a computer. Lower the cpu too much and it just can't do what it needs to.
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i see do u happen to know of a good thread that talks about this? cause i keep mine at the lowest because i read that its better for battery life, but they never said anything about it being bad
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i see do u happen to know of a good thread that talks about this? cause i keep mine at the lowest because i read that its better for battery life, but they never said anything about it being bad
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I don't remember there being a thread dedicated to this. I just remember it from posts I saw within different OC/UV threads. Do a Google search for it and see if that returns any results. Like I said, I doubt you'll find a full dedicated thread. But you may be able to find the individual posts where it's mentioned.
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I don't remember there being a thread dedicated to this. I just remember it from posts I saw within different OC/UV threads. Do a Google search for it and see if that returns any results. Like I said, I doubt you'll find a full dedicated thread. But you may be able to find the individual posts where it's mentioned.
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thank you, you have been really helpful ^_^
With Tiamat 4.1 and juicedefender I get the best battery performance and v6 supercharger I have a smooth screen with no problems or lag at all.
Hi guys!
This One X is very performing smartphone, games are really pretty... But I can stand that battery problem! I've tried so many rom, using setcpu for ondemand governor of the Tegra3... But I still not have so many battery life!
Can you guys suggest how rom, kernel or something else can save my battery?
Generic suggestions about this problem... Now I'm using Jdroid exodized 3.0.3 with bricked kernel v0.2, but battery is so draining... 63 % of battery with 1.37 hours of screen.. 4 h 22 min on it! =(
Hi!
I see a lot of people complaining about battery life, but if you take a look around you'll find the thread where people posted their battery usage. Me - I'm using rooted OneX running the stock ROM and am more than satisfied as far as battery life goes. I do 15 hours with ease. If I try to save it it usually lasts for more than 24 hours. Maybe you could try stock rom + root ... maybe a little underclock? I've been hearing underclock is quite the juice saver.
Hi,
I am the same I have tried custom Rom's but they claim to improve battery life but they just move the tegra 3 powersaving driver into the correct place!
I have a unlocked O2 HTC One X with O2 Rom and flashed battery fix and rooted the device!
Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597227
I have managed to setup a shortcut using widgets on the screen to select how many cores I want to use. I find that using one core clocked at 1.5GHz is fast enough and I don't have much lag! This has helped my battery massively! This is because O2 still haven't pushed through the HTC updates yet!
And also using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630200
I flashed this using CMW and this has also helped.
I also find disabling some stock apps using App Managment in Settings, also using CPU spy from the Play Store and Battery Usage in settings. I can find the apps that use the most CPU power then uninstall or limit their usage (maybe using the internet instead of a dedicated app) this then has the phone stay in Deep Sleep for longer. I can easily get through 24hrs without having to try to save battery at all! I sometimes have almost got two days without charging!
Another tip is in the Usage app you can Restrict Background data over the network although when you connect to your WiFi it enables it again. Although it is meant to help save your Data it can also help your Battery Life.
Hope this helps!
Steven
Thanks for the answer!
I noticed that, in this Rom that I'm trying, I've the Screen that consume a lot of battery, even in the lowest brightness mode. Not using WiFi, 3g data, autosync, nothing, only a lot of text message received and sent. I think that this S-LCD2 consume a lot of battery or maybe the software of HTC, this time, is a loot poor of balance with this expensive hardware.
Do you think I can improve battery life with the tips that you said? I'm using this ROM right now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597778.
Setting CPU to ondemand governor 304 mhz min and 1.5 ghz doesn't help me? I must disable some cores? I can give it a try, hope that this tips can be made in this AOSP Senseless Rom.
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Hi,
I have a unlocked O2 HTC One X with O2 Rom and flashed battery fix and rooted the device!
Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597227
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The link in which I can download the correct NvCPLSvc.apk in that thread doesn't work
Screen will always be the biggest battery drain if you are using the phone.
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Screen will always be the biggest battery drain if you are using the phone.
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I'm asking myself [ and you ] if this screen consume really a lot amount of battery... Or there is some problem with my one x... Reaching the 3+ hours screen on is a good result, but in a 15 h battery day life, I hope... Maybe I can reach disabling a couple of processors
Don't worry about the screen, it will always take a lot of power whatever you do! It isn't worth messing with it.
You don't need to mess with the CPU although personally it does make a diffrence to the battery, I don't notice it too unless I am gaming!
Maybe an app is preventing your phone from going to deep sleep whilst the screen is off
Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
If it says that your phone hasn't been in deep sleep, We need to try and find the culprit. Once you have done this maybe post back and I might be able to help you sort this out! It took me a while as I had this problem but it was definatly worth the effort!
Try looking in battery in the settings and see if there are any apps that are using a lot of power (maybe take a screen shot) and also try in Data Usage, there maybe apps using the Internet whilst you aren't using the phone. This also wastes the battery. If you restrict background usage (only on certain apps) it will only use the Internet in the background whilst you are connected to wifi only. Facebook is a good example!
Hope this helps
Steven
If you don't understand anything please say, I know my explanations are awful but I will try my best! I think I have changed everything here to fit your rom!
The rom itself although you or the developer know this but the overall system could be causing a problem! (just a theory!)
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Don't worry about the screen, it will always take a lot of power whatever you do! It isn't worth messing with it.
You don't need to mess with the CPU although personally it does make a diffrence to the battery, I don't notice it too unless I am gaming!
Maybe an app is preventing your phone from going to deep sleep whilst the screen is off
Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
If it says that your phone hasn't been in deep sleep, We need to try and find the culprit. Once you have done this maybe post back and I might be able to help you sort this out! It took me a while as I had this problem but it was definatly worth the effort!
Try looking in battery in the settings and see if there are any apps that are using a lot of power (maybe take a screen shot) and also try in Data Usage, there maybe apps using the Internet whilst you aren't using the phone. This also wastes the battery. If you restrict background usage (only on certain apps) it will only use the Internet in the background whilst you are connected to wifi only. Facebook is a good example!
Hope this helps
Steven
If you don't understand anything please say, I know my explanations are awful but I will try my best! I think I have changed everything here to fit your rom!
The rom itself although you or the developer know this but the overall system could be causing a problem! (just a theory!)
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You're too fine with me steven, thanks!
I've downloaded Cpu Spy and it says that my one x has been in deep sleep for 70 % of time, so there is no problem with some apps doing something during screen off. My problem is that when I'm using all 4 cores, without internet via wifi or 3g, without autosync, nothing at all, and screen at lowest brightness, there is still a drastic battery drain while I'm using only Message app a lot. I don't wanna think that my HOX have a fault battery, but how can I test and prove it ? I don't know if there is a program, app or test for doing this thing.
Now I'm with that ROM Senseless AOSP ICS, I will try next charge with two cores actives only and view how much I can stay with that SetCpu settings. I'm using this settings: 101% Battery <, CPU Max 1Ghz to 51Mhz and priority 100, governor ondemand ; screen off, CPU Max 1Ghz to 200 mhz and priority 100, governor ondemand. I'll give you the result soon.
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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I agree that you should not use set CPU although you are best using ondemand as that is only using the amount of power you need, interactive keeps the speed high to increase the overall speed. (not good for battery life) also maybe, my mothers Samsung Galaxy S2 had battery problems and she got 6hrs of battery out of her phone at max, she always carried her charger around.
I calibrated the battery without using any software, I just fully charged the device and left video/audio/maps on to get rid of the battery as fast as I could and then fully charged the device. All I am trying to say is give this a shot (I did this when I first got my phone) she now gets on average 2days battery life! I know that it can take ages but it is defiantly worth the effort!
Hope this helps
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Also, how do you find that ROM it looks great. I think I might try it!
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I agree that you should not use set CPU although you are best using ondemand as that is only using the amount of power you need, interactive keeps the speed high to increase the overall speed. (not good for battery life) also maybe, my mothers Samsung Galaxy S2 had battery problems and she got 6hrs of battery out of her phone at max, she always carried her charger around.
I calibrated the battery without using any software, I just fully charged the device and left video/audio/maps on to get rid of the battery as fast as I could and then fully charged the device. All I am trying to say is give this a shot (I did this when I first got my phone) she now gets on average 2days battery life! I know that it can take ages but it is defiantly worth the effort!
Hope this helps
Steven
Also, how do you find that ROM it looks great. I think I might try it!
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if it is me you are asking about the rom mate it is really good highly recommend it
I don't know guys... My phone without two cores seems to have more battery with setcpu on demand declocked at 1 ghz... But I mean, this screen... Lowest brightness, consumes a lot... Wanna try some other roms, like X Touch Xtreme or InsertCoin =)
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you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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cant get over 2 and 20mins screen time before my battery dies.
i dont play games just texting,calling,browsing and a bit gps using..
i get 12-15 hours but cant get a good screen time
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cant get over 2 and 20mins screen time before my battery dies.
i dont play games just texting,calling,browsing and a bit gps using..
i get 12-15 hours but cant get a good screen time
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go into settings-sound and untick the lockscreen sounds and untick the touch keypad sounds to. come out and reboot the phone and charge...let me know if you have those two options ticked
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go into settings-sound and untick the lockscreen sounds and untick the touch keypad sounds to. come out and reboot the phone and charge...let me know if you have those two options ticked
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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What, The Senseless I've meant? Tell me what you think!
P.s. Seems that the Leedroid 6 Rom with Franco kernel it's a good couple for battery life. Read this one, post #33 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648687&page=4
In this Rom, The Jdroid Exodized, I can't try the HTC Battery Test. When I'm trying new one Rom with sense, I will keep in mind to do that.
In the mean time post your suggestions about other roms or other tips for this tooooo much powerful phone =)
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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it is meant to stop the audioout_3 wakelock from draining battery while the screen is off. install betterbatterystats. leave all your stuff in sounds ticked..then charge your battery to the full and seee what i mean once you start testing the battery
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you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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Sorry goku, I want to ask you if you reached the point of 3 hours screen on with everything on, with a day or two with battery! I read that you're using leedroid v 6 with bricked kernel v 0.3, how is battery life with this software? Thanks for the answer!
VillainROM v2 + Franco Kernel.
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What are your guys' opinions on the performance of these two kernels? From what I've gathered it seems like KToon's kernel is meant for overclocking, but then what would one use task's for?
Task's recent update to his kernel makes me want to try it because I've been using KToon's kernel with the ktoonservative governer and row scheduler UV'ed a little bit but unlocked to 2.1GHz and have been having some pretty bad battery life in mu opinion, do you think switching to task's kernel would be better on the battery?
Well what do you guys think?
Fun Fact for the day. Versus threads get shut down in no time here on XDA.
P.S- Why wouldn't you just try it first before making a thread about it? Kernels take about 3 seconds to flash. Also. No one can tell you that you will get better battery life on one or the other considering all of the variables. We are all in different locations, use different apps, have different settings, and we all use our devices differently. You need to try them both out and see which one works better for YOUR device.
Man why are ya giving me a hard time? You kicked me out of your thread, which I understood and respect, but then you come here and tell me the same thing you told me before and that my thread's gonna go to the bin in no time.
I'm just trying to find out what the DIFFERENCES between the kernels are, because it isn't very clear in reading the descriptions/OP's,
They wouldn't co-exist if they were exactly the same.
I'm not too interested in tweaking the hell out of my device nor do I care too much about overclocking...I just want a lot of screen time and the ability to play games and SMS with little lag.
I have tried out both kernels and didn't really notice much difference because I didn't really know what to look for.
Like, okay or example, it seems to me that your kernel is less for tweaking and isn't for overclocking (max 1.6GHz or something?) while KToons can go to 2.1.
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Man why are ya giving me a hard time? You kicked me out of your thread, which I understood and respect, but then you come here and tell me the same thing you told me before and that my thread's gonna go to the bin in no time.
I'm just trying to find out what the DIFFERENCES between the kernels are, because it isn't very clear in reading the descriptions/OP's,
They wouldn't co-exist if they were exactly the same.
I'm not too interested in tweaking the hell out of my device nor do I care too much about overclocking...I just want a lot of screen time and the ability to play games and SMS with little lag.
I have tried out both kernels and didn't really notice much difference because I didn't really know what to look for.
Like, okay or example, it seems to me that your kernel is less for tweaking and isn't for overclocking (max 1.6GHz or something?) while KToons can go to 2.1.
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I'm not giving you are hard time. I'm just telling you the facts here. If you're not into tweaking and messing with things then this is simple and really shouldn't make a difference to you which one you use other than battery life, less lag, ect... Which no one can tell you one is better than the other for. Flash one and don't touch the settings for it and use it how you normally would for a day or two. Then do the same for the other kernel. See which one gets you the best results. Its the only way to find out. Not quite sure why you're refusing to take my advice here. Its pretty straight forward.
There's kernel source in both threads that explain in DETAIL all the DIFFERENCES between the two. It literally only takes seconds to flash and see for yourself. This shouldn't be a big deal at all.
I think they re two of the same.Task just doesnt want KT to know he borrowed his kernel...lol jk. But seriously,they're pretty similar.KT seems better on the performance end but I never got the exceptional battery stats that ppl keep posting,IdK it may be something on my end. On the other hand, task's seemed better on my battery as I could not noticeably see my battery drain during use as I did on Kt's. Furthermore my phone does get hot really fast on task kernel,I'm guessing its cuz we use performance control and can't really play in the voltages as much.
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I think they re two of the same.Task just doesnt want KT to know he borrowed his kernel...lol jk. But seriously,they're pretty similar.KT seems better on the performance end but I never got the exceptional battery stats that ppl keep posting,IdK it may be something on my end. On the other hand, task's seemed better on my battery as I could not noticeably see my battery drain during use as I did on Kt's. Furthermore my phone does get hot really fast on task kernel,I'm guessing its cuz we use performance control and can't really play in the voltages as much.
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Or all or any of that could be due to the apps your have on your device, the settings you choose, ect...
P.S- My phone has never gotten hot. Probably due to what I mentioned above.
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If you're not into tweaking and messing with things then this is simple and really shouldn't make a difference to you which one you use other than battery life, less lag, ect... Flash one and don't touch the settings for it and use it how you normally would for a day or two. Then do the same for the other kernel. See which one gets you the best results. Its the only way to find out. Not quite sure why you're refusing to take my advice here. Its pretty straight forward.
There's kernel source in both threads that explain in DETAIL all the DIFFERENCES between the two. It literally only takes seconds to flash and see for yourself. This shouldn't be a big deal at all.
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I have flashed both kernels. And I don't mean that I am not planning on doing ANY tweaking whatsoever, I just don't mean like messing with voltages adding or subtracting 25 at a time until my CPU crashes so I can find the under/overclock limit...that's the kind of tweaking I have no interest in trying. I'm not gonna look through he sources of both kernels, come on dude you know I'm not a dev and that level of detail is un-necessary.
Your kernel being capped at 1.6GHz probably is better on battery but I also have a sixaxis controller and like to game, does it affect 3D performance at all?
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Ithey're pretty similar.KT seems better on the performance end but I never got the exceptional battery stats that ppl keep posting,IdK it may be something on my end. On the other hand, task's seemed better on my battery as I could not noticeably see my battery drain during use as I did on Kt's. Furthermore my phone does get hot really fast on task kernel,I'm guessing its cuz we use performance control and can't really play in the voltages as much.
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This is the kind of posts I'm looking for in this thread. Do you personally find task's kernel's performance to be any worse than KT's? Cause you said bettery life seemed better.
Also, are the same governers and I/O schedules available between both kernels? The only settings I'm used to using is ktoonservative and row, I wouldn't really know what to do in performance control to emulate what I've done in KTweaker.
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This is the kind of posts I'm looking for in this thread. Do you personally find task's kernel's performance to be any worse than KT's? Cause you said bettery life seemed better.
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He cannot answer this question honestly. He doesn't have your device. You're not understanding. He can have the best battery life possible on my kernel but if you use it, you could have the worst battery life possible. IT'S DEVICE DEPENDENT. Will you please just do yourself a favor and take 3 seconds, flash the kernel, and see. You say you've tried them both, but you are also asking about playing games and what not with them? You would know if you had tried them dude. Same goes for the governors & schedulers. You would also know that if you had actually tried them both. I need to ask you this. Why won't you just try them and see for yourself. Are you really the type of person to flash what people tell you to your expensive device?
Look dude. I'm only trying to help you here. I'm not quite sure why you wouldn't just take my advice here. I have quite a bit of experience with this stuff and I'm trying to help you get the best experience possible. But it seems as though you think that personal opinions of others are whats best for your device when in all reality they are not. Real life testing is what will prove to be best for your device. Trust me.
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I have flashed both kernels. And I don't mean that I am not planning on doing ANY tweaking whatsoever, I just don't mean like messing with voltages adding or subtracting 25 at a time until my CPU crashes so I can find the under/overclock limit...that's the kind of tweaking I have no interest in trying. I'm not gonna look through he sources of both kernels, come on dude you know I'm not a dev and that level of detail is un-necessary.
Your kernel being capped at 1.6GHz probably is better on battery but I also have a sixaxis controller and like to game, does it affect 3D performance at all?
This is the kind of posts I'm looking for in this thread. Do you personally find task's kernel's performance to be any worse than KT's? Cause you said bettery life seemed better.
Also, are the same governers and I/O schedules available between both kernels? The only settings I'm used to using is ktoonservative and row, I wouldn't really know what to do in performance control to emulate what I've done in KTweaker.
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What You won't have on underwear kernel vs kt747: ktoonservative gov, vibration strength control, screen off max freq control, screen off gov control, fast charge, MHz range from 96 to 2106, undervolting capabilities and adjustments to governors and schedulers.
If you don't want to undervolt or tweak anything, I recommend you use underwear kernel. It is stable fast and oc to 1674mhz is alright for any gaming and it doesn't affect 3d performance.
If you wanna use ktoonservative governor then you will have no choice but to use kt747.
But anyway, what you really need is to try both and familiarize yourself with their features.
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What You won't have on underwear kernel vs kt747: ktoonservative gov, vibration strength control, screen off max freq control, screen off gov control, fast charge, MHz range from 96 to 2106, undervolting capabilities and adjustments to governors and schedulers.
If you don't want to undervolt or tweak anything, I recommend you use underwear kernel. It is stable fast and oc to 1674mhz is alright for any gaming and it doesn't affect 3d performance.
If you wanna use ktoonservative governor then you will have no choice but to use kt747.
But anyway, what you really need is to try both and familiarize yourself with their features.
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Comprehensive list. I like it. Now I gotta figure out which gov I'm gonna use when I flash the underwear kernel.
Thanks everybody for their input, if anyone else has anything to say then please go for it!
Wiping cache + dalvik and flashing underwear kernel then fixing permissions and rebooting and gonna take a look around performance control to see whats up.
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Or all or any of that could be due to the apps your have on your device, the settings you choose, ect...
P.S- My phone has never gotten hot. Probably due to what I mentioned above.
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Ohh Thnx man. While you're here any suggestions as to how I go about fixing/finding out which apps are responsible? Also,any combinations/settings you might recommend trying with your kernel,despite the phone dependent variables and what not. Thnx )
Running the underwear kernel today, changes frequencies min and max to the farthest it can go. Will report back with my results.
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Sorry man, but no need to report back here as it has already been stated that each User's experience will differ upon usage, apps, personal habits, planet alignment,... Boils down to a flash and see type thing.
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Here is some info on Governor and I/O schedulers. Obviously it isn't going to include Ktoonservative or ROW but you get the idea.
Ive currently got my setcpu set up to scale the cpu down from max to min dependent on my battery life. I was just wondering what governor/scheduler is the best for battery life? I'm currently running the ktoon gov with the default scheduler which is noop. is this good or bad? what could I run better to increase battery life?
Im not gaming or anything Im just talking day to day internet usage, text, call..Very rarely do I game as I can't find any good games to play thanks in advance for your help!
Completely depends on how u use it. No one really uses it just like u use ur phone. So u just have to experiment with wat gov and what ever.
But if u r using KT747 kernel I would refer to this forum it is extremely informative and gives u preset tweaks if u want balanced or battery saving performance options just take a glance read thru it and hope it helps u out!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032956
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