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Tilt 2 with E2ROM just put the latest Android w/sense and it looks cool and nice features...but it runs horribly slow. I tried removing and doing it again still really, really slow response between apps, even the touch screen lags.

wpbear said:
Tilt 2 with E2ROM just put the latest Android w/sense and it looks cool and nice features...but it runs horribly slow. I tried removing and doing it again still really, really slow response between apps, even the touch screen lags.
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yeah, this is known already. it doesnt have much free ram left with the sense version. try the AOSP 2.1 build, alot more stable and faster. plus data and service wrks off the bat without setting it up. u can always customize it to look like the sense version. like i have done. if u were to look at my phone, ud think i had the sense version in there. u can always get new widgets, clocks., etc...

if they ever get this 100% and then flashable to ROM, it will be awesome seeing ATT offers crap for android

wpbear said:
if they ever get this 100% and then flashable to ROM, it will be awesome seeing ATT offers crap for android
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There are 5 ATT Android devices about to be released.

Any with full hardware keyboard, maybe I'll go to an ATT store? But, I already spent the money on the TP2 so would like the full port of android someday soon.

you know it Reeefer and in september, u know what im getting ..lol dat damn dell mini 5 streak 5 whatwva da hell its name is gotdammittt...lmfao a fine piece of machinery right there..........and runs android............damn....and a phone..damn...pc touchscreen capacitive screen dat kicks )(!!....damn......snap da mutha)(!!!n magic dragon processor.......im srry im trippin...lol...u already know da deal ;-)
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demandarin said:
yeah, this is known already. it doesnt have much free ram left with the sense version. try the AOSP 2.1 build, alot more stable and faster. plus data and service wrks off the bat without setting it up. u can always customize it to look like the sense version. like i have done. if u were to look at my phone, ud think i had the sense version in there. u can always get new widgets, clocks., etc...
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I feel the same way. AOSP is so much faster and more stable. I think it only caused me extra clicks and make the system running more sluggishly. Could someone please enlighten me how Sense is useful?

spb shell? is it worth the cost?

16 dollars is alo to pay for an application especially a home screen replacement i would just like to know if there are any spb users out there is it really worth it?

It's visually entertaining. Other than that it's crap and not worth the price tag.
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I didn't like it ...yea it was very pretty and all....but very slow and got real boring after just a few minutes. Not worth the money IMO

Have you tried "GO"? Its free, there are free themes, and an add-on that will put a little circle with a number on the according dock icon to tell you how many missed calls/txt/voicemails you have.

Nothing beats ADW EX
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No it is not worth it.
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butler360 said:
You rooted your wife?
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No it is absolutely not worth it. That's mine (and alot of others) opinion of course, but it's certainly not. It barely has any customization, so basically its like having a stock android launcher, with a few built in widgets that do 3d tricks, and the pretty 3d carousel view. Other than that, it doesn't do anything special besides eat alot of memory, battery life, and money out of your pocket. Mine friend bought it, and it was a total waste he's back on ADW Ex.

That depends on if you really like what it does.
If you "love it", then yah, it is worth it, as a launcher can reshape your entire phone interaction.
I got it for my GF, and she loved it on her EVO, but when I upgraded her to the ET4G, I switched her to ADW Ex, mainly so her new phone looks just like my Epic, (except a pink theme)
Would I buy it again,... probably.
Mainly because I jump on every launcher, given the massive changes launchers can do, I cant resist checking out each new one as soon as I get the chance.
Overall, I think it is overpriced for what it does, but a large part of that may be I am simply not a widget person, nor do I like icons on my desktop, and the main attractions of this launcher, at least IMO, are the animated widgets.

jackal516 said:
Have you tried "GO"? Its free, there are free themes, and an add-on that will put a little circle with a number on the according dock icon to tell you how many missed calls/txt/voicemails you have.
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GO launcher is nice, but ever since I found out that it collects data from users, I comepletely stopped using it. Been switching off from Launcher Pro and ADW EX (although I prefer ADW for its usual updates. LP hasn't been updated since early this year)
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Adw ex ftw. But you can always 4share spb shell I tried it and looked cool for about 10 minutes. And was a nuciance and was unistalled and I delelted the apk
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It is cool but not for that much money. It does few things very nicely and yes it is very attractive and I would buy for 1/3 for 1/4 of the price.

It's cool, I liked it, but honestly just try Regina Launcher, it's just as good except it's actually free on the market.
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No-Sense or Sense?

Hey guys,
I recently flashed between ARHD and LeeDroiD, both already fantastic ROMs, considering the Device just launched. Great respect for that dedication and support!
Tho, it seems both ROMs offer a No-Sense installation, or its possible.
AFAIK, Sense UI 4.0 still is pretty buggy. Memory Management is fuxort and causes Rosie Reboots every now and then. Plus, it seems like Sense / Rosie is causing the Phone to slow down a tad. When I use Trebuchet or Apex Launcher, Screen scrolling is WONDERFULLY smooth. Noticeably smoother than on my previous devices (Desire HD, Galaxy S2 i9100).
Question is: Even tho I always loved Sense UI, does removing Sense / Rosie speed up the phone in general? I would be perfectly fine with Apex or Trebuchet, as they run absolutely smooth so far, even with quite some widgets.
Thing is: I noticed alot of games acting up after a while, little lags every now and then, most likely a sign of cleaning up memory in the background to get the active App (in this case the game) more spare Memory to fill up. Sense UI and its Widgets seem to consume quite alot Memory, and because of the bugged memory management, it starts to lag more and more. After quitting the game, Rosie usually reboots.
I love Sense, always have, missed it alot after switching to the Galaxy S2 back in the days, but to speed up the phone and get rid of occasional lags, I would sacrifice Sense for the time being (until a new Firmware fixes issues).
I am still running Sense 4.0, but before I flash again, I would like to have your opinion and maybe experience with this matter.
Thanks guys!

You can use my ROM in pair with ROM cleaner and Nova Launcher
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Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Whoa, the chiefs are answering themselves
Guys, you 2 got GREAT ROMs running. Still flashing between them
I will try both Non-Sense'd ROMs. Sense really seems effin memory hungy. Hopefully it speeds things up for now
And you 2 keep the goodies commin'!

Your thread just got their attention, because you asked this question in the wrong forum. (-;
Next time pls ask such things in the Q&A forum or in the threads of the roms.

Moved to Q&A.
Please don't ask questions in Development Section.
Cheers
Whiskey
Forum Moderator

A lot of users are waiting for AOSP Rom and I am of course one of them.
I am now using ATHENS in pair with From Cleaner and it is very fast.
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Hey,
This looks like a good place to ask this question ....
How are the Widgets in Sense 4.0 compare to Sense 3.x in quantity & options ?
Thank you in advance,
Itai.

LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Yeps and my rom on the phone arm
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Sorry for asking in the wrong section. I should've known better, considering for how long I am already a Member
I am currently trying No-Sense. The phone feels faster, indeed. Better response, apps start a little faster, haven't had a Launcher Reboot ever since (but I am using Apex instead of Nova as for now).
Too bad the Lockscreen-Shortcuts are gone, but thats normal since there's no HTC Sense Launcher anymore (Dock-Icons).

LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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LOL, Lee's sense stripper

I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on. Especially with launchers like Apex out there, lightweight and very fast plus customizable, I just don't get it.
Anyhow, we need a good camera alternative asap so we can go AOSP...

Sweeeeet, will try this as soon as I get my new unit.
Does anybod know if the camera UI is gone too or not?

geenyous said:
I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on.
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!

The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC

Ruudfood said:
Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
sphuyal said:
The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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I don't like the calendar widget at all - I use a combination of simple calendar widget and business calendars week view, gives me more info over the next few days than a bunch of dots
As for notes I use catch, but there is one very good post it style note app out there but thats not the way I am using notes on my phone and my player of choice, PowerAmp has several nice widgets, so this is also not something I would miss.
What I like and would really miss are the camera app obviously, the tasks widget (for the ability to sync with G and exchange) and the mail app which is really nice. The AOSP is nice too though, so its acutally onle the camera app that will prevent me from going AOSP.
Most probably I am going to try this ROM, AOSP themed sense ROM, once the unlock before answering a call bug is squashed.

why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd

atrako1973 said:
why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...

geenyous said:
Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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I don't know how you like the stock camera app >.< Only thing good about it is the UI. Photo and video quality is atrociously bad. I LOVE the UI, but I can't take the horrible compression so I use Camera360 and save my images with no filters instead >.<

geenyous said:
After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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And did someone die in those "several secs"?

Chameleon Experience Thus Far

So for those of you who have pre-ordered / funded the kickstarter, what are your opinions so far?
Personally, I'm pretty torn about it right now. I really love the idea and I really want to use it all the time, but nothing works that great on it, yet. I'm not trying to sound harsh because I understand it's still in BETA, I just can't use it as a daily launcher. While load times have improved it still hogs up resources substantially more than any other launcher. They're slowly getting new widgets which is nice, but mine frequently crash. I constantly have connection problems with Facebook and sometimes they all just go blank. So, I'm curious if you all are having similar experiences. With the widget SDK being released soon I'm looking forward to 3rd party widgets.

It's ok. I'm using it as my daily and widgets crash like there's no tomorrow. It has a long way to go to be a functional launcher, imo.
I'm using it as my daily launcher right now.

thevuman said:
It's ok. I'm using it as my daily and widgets crash like there's no tomorrow. It has a long way to go to be a functional launcher, imo.
I'm using it as my daily launcher right now.
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really? daily launcher?
its still slow and unstable for me. i pre-ordered since it shows a lot of promise. really nice UI but still lacking overall. its still a beta after all so thats ok.
no regrets giving them my $10.

antikryst said:
really? daily launcher?
its still slow and unstable for me. i pre-ordered since it shows a lot of promise. really nice UI but still lacking overall. its still a beta after all so thats ok.
no regrets giving them my $10.
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Ya... I'm just using it as daily cause km bored with stock launcher right now. It's not stable enough for a real daily driver
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Its not bad but also not great imo right now. First had problems with the app drawer getting jumbled when swiping and now with the latest update my weather and Facebook Widgets just sit there with circles rotating until I remove and add the widget again. Don't really use as a daily or anything. I will give it a test though everytime it updates. Still needs some work before releasing in this next month
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Needs a lot more work, which is happening as per the devs release notes. Would wait for the public build + x weeks before buying it: my advice.

Buzz Launcher Beta

IF anybody is interested here is a great new launcher https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buzzpia.aqua.launcher&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmJ1enpwaWEuYXF1YS5sYXVuY2hlciJd

Looks intressting!
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I've tried it and it is really nice, but I uninstalled it because it consumed too much battery and ram. The final version when it comes out I will definitely try again

I use it, it works pretty good.

I installed this launcher to try the Chrome OS theme from mycolorscreen, The Launcher is pretty good, but i just cannot leave the fast and fluid stock one.
http://mycolorscreen.com/2013/03/23/os-transfer/

Likes good...has anybody got it to work on Nexus 7?
Edit: never mind I got it working on Nexus 7

Nice launcher, but it needs a bit more development.

This is amazing. Just downloaded it and it runs beautifully and love how it comes pre set up.

Rather confusing launcher, I think I will try it out again and try to get the Chrome theme on it, but honestly wasn't impressed.

This is not just another launcher. A completely new launcher.
Congrats guys, very innovative. More innovative than apple and Samsung all together

Gotcha, now after watching the tutorial video I see the potential this launcher has. Great work!

Just a very very good launcher, I'm impressed !
Buy it's very annoying to have to download a lot of gadgets for it to be perfect.
And some french traduction of the main app and of the widget are awful, that makes the application hard to configure.

battery
it indeed eats too much battery...but i have to admit, it does look good

freeintruth said:
it indeed eats too much battery...but i have to admit, it does look good
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Drain battery but overall really nice launcher :good:

vicino said:
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Drain battery but overall really nice launcher :good:
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yea it does eat battery on more ram but wait till they sort that out i think mite be up there with nova apex ect one day

second thought: after a couple of days using this launcher and paying close attention to the battery usage, I have to say that it does not drain as much as i thought. I guess it depends on what homepack you download/use.
This launcher really makes my phone a lot better looking, with very little time and energy. And the customization freedom is huge!
I have now officially uninstalled Go Launcher.

freeintruth said:
second thought: after a couple of days using this launcher and paying close attention to the battery usage, I have to say that it does not drain as much as i thought. I guess it depends on what homepack you download/use.
This launcher really makes my phone a lot better looking, with very little time and energy. And the customization freedom is huge!
I have now officially uninstalled Go Launcher.
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Its alot closer to SSL Launcher but in a clean more user friendly interface. Can't wait for it to be stable now. I put the Chrome theme on it that was shared earlier and its sick! Trying to replicate the Chrome theme on other launchers like Apex and Nova using Multi-Live Wallpaper and its becoming even more tedious. This makes things alot easier when creating a theme for mycolorscreen.

Corrupt colors and textures.. I was seeing alpha channel instead with some textures.

Beautiful and innovative home screen, high battery+ram usage, boring app drawner
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This is a fantastic tool for customization, a congratulations to the app developers on this one. Let's hope it catches on and we get an influx of themes.