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[Q] Google Gmail Chat

Is there really no way to use gmail chat on WP7?
I've tried going straight to the website but that's inconvenient and that messenger by miyowaka is not good unless I have friends on windows live.
Anyway to do this? Any app in the works?
Would be grateful with any info as my workplace just banned gchat.

Even I am looking for a chat software to make my WP7 running to my use. In the mobile OS war, the key thing now is about Social network integration. Facebook is integrated well. However Twitter, gtalk, facebook chat all are missing. Moreover even facebook and twitter notifications are not there. Do we ever get a chat feature in WP7 ? There are lot of Questions on mind than the UI as its the only thing which attracts me.

So, any update on this anyone?

There are 2 Gtalk apps for WP7:
- Flory Messenger (free)
- Jabber Talk (not free)
I prefer Flory because is free and has support for Facebook chat too.

talk google

Flory turned me off right away due to a sign up process. It seemed required almost though due to the way they do XMPP.
I used JabberTalk once or twice but it's very simplistic and after logging in I got a "You might be haxed here's the IP!" alert from Google that may or may not be related. It may be that they have to use a XMPP gateway of sorts so you're not without this middleman which would explain the behavior I saw. It's also possible that this was entirely coincidental and just happened to happen in the exact week I used it.
The likely course of action is if no one will, I'll go for a clone of the unofficial official MSN app (Messenger by Miyowa). The way this handles MSN is almost flawless from a chat app goes but I may give Flory a try if it's closer to a 1:1.

facebook auto log-in to chat

hi guys,
is there a way not to auto log-in to the facebook chat with the new app?
I don't want to be available the whole time. After logging off from the chat in the app, I press chat and I'm online without asking me if I want to.
Thanks guys
sergioka

I thought I was the only one with this problem.....
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I absolutely hate this. I never use the chat and clicked on it by accident... Now not only does it log me on in the app automatically, it refreshes the login automatically, too.
For example, I open the Facebook app on my phone (I don't even have to open chat, just the app) and now I'm logged in. If I go to Facebook on my desktop, I'm still logged into chat there as well. So I log out. An hour later I open up Facebook on the desktop and guess what? I'm logged in again. The Facebook app is re-logging me in remotely (and automatically) from another device.
I'm seriously thinking about uninstalling the app and just using the mobile site in the browser. This is getting ridiculous.

gravis, why not just download an older version of Facebook? Like 1.4.3 or whatever was right before 1.5.0 with Chat?

Because the older versions of Facebook suck?
Does it log you into chat automatically whenever you have Facebook open? I'm not sure if it does that or log you into chat once you click chat..if it does that once you click chat then it shouldn't be a problem.
I wonder myself because I don't want people think I'm on Facebook 24/7 as I have the Facebook widget and I stay logged into Facebook to get updates to my news feed.

It's logging me in anytime I open the app. I have only ever clicked on chat once. However, rebooting my phone seems to have fixed the issue; though I'm assuming once I click on chat it'll start all over again.
So simple solution: reboot and never click the chat button again :-( it's a shame we have to do this...
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go to the chat thing, press menu, and click logout.

urfavoritemazn said:
go to the chat thing, press menu, and click logout.
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did you read my post?

ztmike said:
Because the older versions of Facebook suck?
Does it log you into chat automatically whenever you have Facebook open? I'm not sure if it does that or log you into chat once you click chat..if it does that once you click chat then it shouldn't be a problem.
I wonder myself because I don't want people think I'm on Facebook 24/7 as I have the Facebook widget and I stay logged into Facebook to get updates to my news feed.
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Yeah that makes sense, seeing as the literal only difference between 1.4.X and 1.5.0 was Chat.
That's it. Nothing else.
What a ****ty application.

Hey folks.
Is this problem solved?
For me personal it is a shame. All my friends want to write in the chat.
Any. Yes. My FB app is not on.!!!!
So. If i ever click on the FB chat im always connected in the net..
How to solve that problem. FB touch isn´t so great and the other apps. Nope....
So? Any ideas. I won´t klick "go offline" on every FB session!

how can i downgrade my facebook app? do i just have to scour the net for the previous version and download, or can i somehow downgrade through the market?

I use ebuddy from the market. You can pick wich IM clients to log in and out of.
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kegacide said:
how can i downgrade my facebook app? do i just have to scour the net for the previous version and download, or can i somehow downgrade through the market?
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If Facebook was one of the built-in apps on your phone (i.e., located in the /system/apps directory), you should be able to just uninstall it (it will only uninstall the market update and not touch the built-in version). If it wasn't built-in, then you'll either need a backup of the old version or search for it.

All you have to do is go to the app, go into chat press menu and then click go offline. This way you will be offline even after reboots.

Problem with WLM in Mango.

Hey guys, I've updated my HTC Trophy to Mango and I've noticed a problem with WLM in Messaging.
In the Messaging under online, it only shows some contacts online, but not every online contact.
and when I go to some contact in the PeopleHub, it says text+chat, but it doesn't show it for everyone I speak to on WLM.
Anyone got a fix for this?
Thanks.

I have noticed this with my FB contacts. Some friends don't show up in the list available on my phone, but it does show them as available in FB chat on my computer.

I have this issue too.
And hope this is just a beta bug, but sometimes when I'm chatting with someone and I turn the screen off and after a while I turn on and go chat with the same person, it shows me that he is offline.
I need to go back to message hub, slide to "online" and wait to load again.

Its a privacy setting they have enabled to allow apps certain permissions. Fb has these and wlm has them each friend. Has to grant access to other apps to use chat and such
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I've found that it's just the people I have added recently, all my older contacts seem to work fine.

ChrisOliver said:
I've found that it's just the people I have added recently, all my older contacts seem to work fine.
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Maybe.. in your email settings, how often you set to download new content?

ChrisOliver said:
I've found that it's just the people I have added recently, all my older contacts seem to work fine.
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Sync manualy once all of your accounts in Settings/email-accounts...

I download new content every 30 minutes and I keep syncing in manually in settings>email+accounts.
I'll be able to chat to people on WLM desktop, but not in Messaging on my phone, they don't appear online.

The problem might be the server that Windows Phone using is not the same as WLM, and some functionality of WLM have not finished yet in the current build of Mango (as it is for dev to testing app). We might have to wait until they release the final build or might be another working update. Right now, even those people from FB, Y!M or Gmail can see you online and they can send you message, but you probably cannot send back to them due to the limit of current build. However, I can confirm that WLM working perfectly. So if you guy has Live id, use it for messenger for now until we have the good build as we can message other services.

Mango First Impressions

Good update.
IE9 : Great, except for removing the Quick Buttons for Tabs and Favorites
Bing : Vision and Audio Great. Local Scout I haven't tried.
Search Button : Removed Contextual Search Button - Terrible.
Messaging Hub : WLM and FB Chat are virtually useless. Messages come in way too late, if they even arrive at all. 90% of the time, they don't arrive for WLM. Haven't tested FB, but not expecting anything different there.
Visual Voicemail : for me (on T-Mobile), excellent.
Task Switching : Excellent
Email Client Changes : Excellent
Office Hub Changes : Excellent but it feels like no one tested this. You can't mvoe or delete files in your skydrive. When you back out of a folder you go straight to Office Hub instead of One Folder up. Things are alphabetized, but they don't put folders on top. It's all mixed in there. Just seems a bit messy. Otherwise, works as you'd generally think it's intended to work. Connections are very fast, not a lot of load time.
People Hub Changes : Generally great. Still doesn't update in the background, which makes the load times even more ridiculous if you have a lot of updates to load.
Me Hub Changes : Great. Live Tile works for Social Notifications.
*** WP7 Still Doesn't have a decent notification Cache, which is a bit terrible. Needed ASAP, IMO.
Calendar : Synching of To-Dos from Windows Live is a much welcome feature.
XBox Live looks better.
Picture Hub by default does a slideshow of all your pictures. Not a welcome'd default.
Podcast support in Zune HD Hub : Yay!
Biggest disappointment for me was the apparent uselessness of the WLM/Facebook chat in Messaging Hub. It was probably the single biggest feature I was waiting for when you assume obvious things like Browser, etc. would be brought up to par (which they have been, exceeding many expectations). That being said, it makes me feel less bad about spending $9.99 on Beejive for Android 4 days ago.
I can't believe Microsoft forced IM+ to butcher their IM app... for this... And the worst thing is this will not get fixed without a full FW update, since it's built into the OS.

yeah I miss the buttons for new tabs and favorites/history

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Picture Hub by default does a slideshow of all your pictures. Not a welcome'd default.
if you set it to shuffle background it will do a slide show of your favorites
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I havent used FB chat on RTM yet, but with the Dev beta FB chat worked great and fast

If the FB works great and fast that's cool and all.
I just know the WLM is useless outside of knowing who's online or sending one message you don't expect a response to, because it barely recieves the replies and when it does it recieves them anywhere from 0.5-3 minutes after other WLM clients both on WP7 and other platforms.
It's actually worse than Messenger by Miyowa, which is a miracle...

not sure your issue with WLM. It works flawlessly for me (and in real time).
-R

The WLM / Facebook chat works allright for me. It takes a little longer for messages to reach, but I've had long, fast conversations with it and it has worked flawlessly.

I was testing it out earlier by chatting back and forth with a friend of mine. Worked just fine. As soon as I hit send, I saw it come up on the computer. When I saw his message hit the comp, it hit my phone. Last one was about 2 seconds behind.
Now, I was on wi-fi. So, performance may vary with connection speed. Will test on 3G tomorrow.

My FB chat is almost instant. (Sprint HTC Arrive)

Facebook almost instant. Wlm, no.
And sorry but I was trying it with two phones and a computer. Its not operator error.
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And now that that has prompted me to recheck, the notifications and delivery seem equal to the android clients now...
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N8ter said:
Facebook almost instant. Wlm, no.
And sorry but I was trying it with two phones and a computer. Its not operator error.
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
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WLM on the phone I think from my experience stops receiving messages if you respond elsewhere. Fo exmaple if a friend messages me, I get it simultaneously on the phone, web and desktop messenger. If I repsond on the phone I recieve all replies in realtime across all options. However if I reply on the desktop messenger or the web, I no longer recieve replies on the phone until I start responding on the phone. This works fine for me as it saves battery since im already responding elsewhere.

That's how it's intended to work. You're only supposed to receive responses on your phone to messages that were sent from your phone. With that being said, my WLM and Facebook are both instant. Not sure if it has to do with signal strength or what. I use both all day, and both never hiccup.

Haven't tried WLM yet, but FB chat is absolutely instant for me. I chatted with my wife basically in real time from my phone to her laptop.

They have removed timer from dropdown volume bar when tracks are played.
Call history still doesn't show call duration.. Only history which is useless.
I don't want that favorite window in pics hub. I don't have time to favorite pics.
Can't add more than 20 people to one group.
Sent from my OMNIA7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Had the same issue with fb chat over wifi. But it's real time with 3G.
Maybe it's my connection and it's unrelated.

I would give it an 8 out of 10, they lose points for the extra taps required for tabs and favourites in IE. Biggest joy for me though was being able to change the default search provider from the truly awful Yahoo that O2 UK had forced upon us in earlier version to Bing!!!

It would appear to me if you have a contact that is Facebook linked and WLM linked it will only allow you to message them on there Facebook, which i guess makes sense since most people like them bother.

Bad:
Twitter updates doesnt work even though my account has synched with the phone.
Windows Live posts/updates doesnt work either.
Hardware search-button is COMPLETELY useless. "We can't connect to search at the moment. Check mobile data or WiFi connection".. Yeah I have full data and WiFi connection thank you very ****ing much. This is bull****. I know Local Scout and Bing Maps isnt available here but at least give me a web search or send me to bing web page. Useless!
Since I activated my Swedish Live-ID Zune doesn't get artist-backgrounds or artist-info. I should have figured since Zune Service isnt available here in Sweden. Album art on lockscreen doesn't work either. (Seriously?! I understand why we cant buy music through the Zune Service yet here in Sweden but why the hell cant my albumart be displayed?)
Good:
I love the new Live Tiles for groups and Me-tile, love the notifications.
Love Threads in email-apps and the ability to link mailboxes.
Like the new fb-integration, so far I havent installed the fb-app, I still miss that we cant see who like a certain photo etc.

FiyaFleye said:
That's how it's intended to work. You're only supposed to receive responses on your phone to messages that were sent from your phone. With that being said, my WLM and Facebook are both instant. Not sure if it has to do with signal strength or what. I use both all day, and both never hiccup.
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Wrong. WLM supports multiple points of presense.
Being logged in at multiple places doesn't matter. WLM has worked like this for over half a decade, now, if not longer.

leftspeaker2000 said:
It would appear to me if you have a contact that is Facebook linked and WLM linked it will only allow you to message them on there Facebook, which i guess makes sense since most people like them bother.
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The Phone Prioritizes FB > WLM > SMS/MMS
You can switch between the three manually, with the switch button on the bottom of the screen.
Too bad there are no delivery confirmations like BeejiveIM or S/D/R tags like Blackberry/Kik Messenger.
Would like the ability to send Video, Contact, and Location as well.

Two small things that are insanely frustrating

Sorry everyone, gotta rant.
Bing.
Oh Bing, you useless, useless application. No Zehr's in my city? No Service Canada locations?
I don't care that "it only works in US and UK", if your product doesn't work in a certain country, then WHY is it sold there?
It'd be like a blu-ray player that doesn't play DVD's.
No rotation-lock.
This in itself isn't that bad, sometimes the display turns sideways, what IS bad, is trying to get it the way you were using it again. Shaking the phone, twisting it, being patient, nothing works. Once it rotates the way you weren't using it, gooooood luck, cause that thing ain't ever rotating back.
I feel like smashing my phone into a million pieces every time I see if flipping over.

Yes both things that need addressing, and I am expecting Bing to have massive upgrades in Apollo. The rotation lock is a no brainer, and should be there. Hopefully also in Apollo.

I have no issues with rotation on my HD7 whatsoever, when I rotate it rotates without hesitation. It might be a problem with your phone and not the OS itself, and Zehr? Wow that's old school,ain't seen one of those around my area in quite sometime.

sure haven't said:
Sorry everyone, gotta rant.
Bing.
Oh Bing, you useless, useless application. No Zehr's in my city? No Service Canada locations?
I don't care that "it only works in US and UK", if your product doesn't work in a certain country, then WHY is it sold there?
It'd be like a blu-ray player that doesn't play DVD's.
No rotation-lock.
This in itself isn't that bad, sometimes the display turns sideways, what IS bad, is trying to get it the way you were using it again. Shaking the phone, twisting it, being patient, nothing works. Once it rotates the way you weren't using it, gooooood luck, cause that thing ain't ever rotating back.
I feel like smashing my phone into a million pieces every time I see if flipping over.
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1st calm down and do a little googling.
Answer for A
http://www.wpcentral.com/activate-scout-bing-vision-mango-canada-others-how-to
Answer for B
What app are you having rotation issues in? rotation always worked in all apps for me with NO issues.
What O/S version? Nodo? Mango? above?

You can also install orientation lock (assuming you can side load and are IU);
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/orientation_lock_v3-04-16-12
Not built in but at least an option

Bing works only in certain countries, its like Zune though.
The rotation is good, never had problems with it.

it's funny, just yesterday I was telling a coworker how well the rotate works on my arrive compared to my old tp2 wm 6.5. No issues here.
Bing is great too..... AMERICANS FTW! j/k!

I wish Bing rewards was integrated into the phone, just another selling point Microsoft.... That way when the real deal Skype App/integration comes we can search Bing to earn Skype minutes , simply with our phones..

LiFePo4 said:
You can also install orientation lock (assuming you can side load and are IU);
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/orientation_lock_v3-04-16-12
Not built in but at least an option
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Lucky for many of us, it seems that IU (interop unlock) isn't necessary for the latest release. YAY!
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/orientation_lock_release-02-06-12

Oh gods double on the rotation. It's usually completely fine. And keeps how it's meant to be.
But once in a while (usually in IE) it rotates and then takes ages to realise I want it back.

I think it's frustating Facebook messages. It should receive inboxes. I hate need to go to Facebook app to read inbox messages. That sucks so bad..

Never had a problem with quick rotating back on any of my 9 Windows Phones(1 Lumia 900, 3 Radars, 2 Hd7s, 2 HD2's), not on a single one.
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mikeeam said:
I think it's frustating Facebook messages. It should receive inboxes. I hate need to go to Facebook app to read inbox messages. That sucks so bad..
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Are you signed into FB chat via the messaging hub or the Me tile? You should receive most FB messages the same as SMS.

anseio said:
Are you signed into FB chat via the messaging hub or the Me tile? You should receive most FB messages the same as SMS.
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I receive when I'm online, yes. But those messages are Facebook chat. Facebook have unified inbox and chat messages, but still, when i'm not online and someone send me a message, I just receive it through the app.

mikeeam said:
I receive when I'm online, yes. But those messages are Facebook chat. Facebook have unified inbox and chat messages, but still, when i'm not online and someone send me a message, I just receive it through the app.
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It would be nice if it all were treated the same. I do think it's an FB issue though. I've got friends whose messages come to my phone, and others' who don't. What I've noticed is that Damon is signed into chat, but Jacob is not. Jacob's messages always appear in the app/online but never in my messaging hub. :|

mikeeam said:
I think it's frustating Facebook messages. It should receive inboxes. I hate need to go to Facebook app to read inbox messages. That sucks so bad..
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Sometimes when people send me a Facebook message I get it in the messaging hub.