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lcd screen cracked

so, for the second time in about 5 months, my dash lcd screen cracked. luckily (this time) i don't have to pay anything. it's apparently a known issue. is there anyway to prevent this from happening? this time the phone was in my jeans pocket with an iPod nano & i wasn't doing anything extreme besides walking. i tend to take good care of electronics so this is real annoying. also, i have a case i use

mjpuczko said:
so, for the second time in about 5 months, my dash lcd screen cracked. luckily (this time) i don't have to pay anything. it's apparently a known issue. is there anyway to prevent this from happening? this time the phone was in my jeans pocket with an iPod nano & i wasn't doing anything extreme besides walking. i tend to take good care of electronics so this is real annoying. also, i have a case i use
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Use a holster or a protective case to carry your Dash. They are available on numerous websites. Also, you can buy protective screen covers. They have them in the accessories section on the T-Mobile website and many others as well.

sorry, i didn't mean the actual screen cracked. i meant it looks like ink exploded in the back ground. the actual screen is fine. it's behind it that's the problem.

Okay... so what's your question... or issue then ?

the screen appears to be cracked behind the actual 'glass'. so it looks like ink bleeding across the screen ( i saw someone else posted about this). i can't figure out exactly how/why this happens & t-mobile was of no help. i was just wondering if other people have experienced this. i found some related messages on another forum but no one had a solution to stop this, other than use a case. which i do.

I has a similar problem once.. Tipsy fiancy decided to grab my phone, knocked it into the leg of a table.. Cracked the crap outa the screen.. I ended up calling tmobile and saying "my screen doesn't work any more.." They kindly replaced my phone with no hastles..

if something like that happened, i could understand. the damn thing was in my pocket for about 1 minute!

Sorry dude - its broken.
The LCD has a couple of layers. One of back layers are broken.
This is one solution:
http://cgi.ebay.com/T-Mobile-DASH-E...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Search ebay for better offer.
This is some video tutorial:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FI6bZ3L-hE0

hmm..apparently i didn't explain myself enough. t-mobile i sending me a new phone for free. i just want to prevent this from happening in the future. i guess i'll just step up the case i already have. i'm looking at this one:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/armorcase/armor-case-t-mobile-dash_2355.htm

I think this case is better:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fr-T-Mobile-DAS...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Coz its simple, good looking and lite.

that's pretty much what i have now & my phone's broke twice now
i think i need something that protects the screen too. or HTC should fix this problem that numerous others have complained about.

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I think this case is better:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fr-T-Mobile-DAS...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Coz its simple, good looking and lite.
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I have that exact case - its pretty good! I've been using it for 8 months now and its been fine. I don't think it really helps the screen all that much, but I have a screen protector on too. The only problem is that the phone is not so grippy with the case on. Overall I'm happy and it didnt cost much. Actually I use another case
Actually I have this too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330152841341&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D%2B330152841341%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1
Its for the Cavalier but fits (with the other case on too) perfectly. This one I love!

I put my phone ot shirt pocket - no movement, no problem.

during the winter, i always put my phone in my jacket pocket, never my jeans. and the two times i've put it in my jeans this has happened
therefore
i will not putting the phone in my jeans!
guess i'll just have to be even more careful than i already am. i ordered a nice case with a screen protector & shock resistant.
thanks for the help!

Yeah, that's gonna snap the first time he sits down, also! lol
Stick with a nice leather case. I'd recommend the nice, Palm branded, horizontal case they make for their Treo's.

Keyboard glide protector came off - what to do?

Hi all,
Just day ago baught TP2 and it's great. but today got in problem.
there are invisible glide protectors on side of keyboard, and from one side this protector came off - and now every time I open it, it's more and more coming off.
so what you think? is it possible to get new them somewhere? or it's sefe just to remove them? all of you have the same at their phones?

test157 said:
Hi all,
Just day ago baught TP2 and it's great. but today got in problem.
there are invisible glide protectors on side of keyboard, and from one side this protector came off - and now every time I open it, it's more and more coming off.
so what you think? is it possible to get new them somewhere? or it's sefe just to remove them? all of you have the same at their phones?
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That is the normal protectors installed from factory, during manufacturing for product quality reasons. I admit that they really protect the plastic from getting scratched. But as mentioned in the manual, you should remove it from the phone itself (both glide stickers, the upper sticker in the keyboard, near the hidges, the back screen cover sticker and the front sticker protecting the screen). To substitute, I must say that problably you should cut some plastic clear sticker (same used to protect book covers) with the size and format of the sticker removed and attached in the glide sections to protect it from scratches of opening and closing the keyboard.

thank you very much for your info.
but can you say me where exactly did you find info about removing this protectors? I just looked in manual what was on CD with my phone for word "protect" and not found any info about that.
and yes, I saw that those protectors had scratches, they were noticeable - but with time they will become more and more visible (more scratches, dirt around them e.t.c) + I don't think I can cut them so accurate as they were...
so all owners of T2? did you remove these protectors? did you got there scratches after removing them?
P.S.: Black Phoenix you leaved your protectors also? just on keyboard?

test157 said:
thank you very much for your info.
but can you say me where exactly did you find info about removing this protectors? I just looked in manual what was on CD with my phone for word "protect" and not found any info about that.
and yes, I saw that those protectors had scratches, they were noticeable - but with time they will become more and more visible (more scratches, dirt around them e.t.c) + I don't think I can cut them so accurate as they were...
so all owners of T2? did you remove these protectors? did you got there scratches after removing them?
P.S.: Black Phoenix you leaved your protectors also? just on keyboard?
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At the moment I have all the protectors, because I'm waiting for my Screen Protector from Proporta. The others in the keyboard I will keep, mainly because I bought a phone with the keyboard but I only use the screen one, not the physical one (so If I had open the keyboard 10 times since I had the phone was too much).

If it is a clear sticker than obviously you remove it once it wears out and live with it....

yep, I got it. but hope to hear from other owners who already removed them, what experince they got - any scratches or nope?

Mine is sliding off on the left side only. I was just going to slice off the part that is crinkling up and keep the rest of it on. I don't want to find out if it will get scratched or not.

I removed the ones on the sides as i knew they were merely their from the factory and not actually their to protect during use. I dont have any scratches on the keyboard.
The back one, under the middle of the screen i havent removed because it looks like it would be too much of a pain to try. So im just waiting till it starts to come off on its own.

if you're concerned about being able to cut them as precise as the originals just use an exacto knife. Just put the plastic piece over the plastic you will use to replace it and trace it with the knife.

i just cut off the tips on both sides as it was crinkling up, kept the rest of it

Lyian said:
I removed the ones on the sides as i knew they were merely their from the factory and not actually their to protect during use. I dont have any scratches on the keyboard.
The back one, under the middle of the screen i havent removed because it looks like it would be too much of a pain to try. So im just waiting till it starts to come off on its own.
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how long you are useing it without stickers? and how offten do you open hw keyboard?

test157 said:
how long you are useing it without stickers? and how offten do you open hw keyboard?
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just rip it off and live with it dude... I took the film cover off of my Xperia and nothing happened to my keys. If you are worried about the glossy back scratching than you obviously have too little things to worry about.
And if you are that person than obviously you can afford a second one because taking it off won't damage any phone.

poetryrocksalot said:
just rip it off and live with it dude... I took the film cover off of my Xperia and nothing happened to my keys. If you are worried about the glossy back scratching than you obviously have too little things to worry about.
And if you are that person than obviously you can afford a second one because taking it off won't damage any phone.
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well if really, I don't worry about back side scratches and about other minor things all I see now it's two stickers what are located on the left and right sides from the keyboard (i don't see so space in xperia), this space is used for gliding - so every time you are opening keyboard, two small stands from the back of the screen sliding in this area, where these stickers are - and after two days of using this device - this stickers are pretty scratched. so I decided to ask, if it's safely to remove or it's they needed to be replaced and seems like I'll finish by removing them both.
but anyway other owners experience is welcome

test157 said:
well if really, I don't worry about back side scratches and about other minor things all I see now it's two stickers what are located on the left and right sides from the keyboard (i don't see so space in xperia), this space is used for gliding - so every time you are opening keyboard, two small stands from the back of the screen sliding in this area, where these stickers are - and after two days of using this device - this stickers are pretty scratched. so I decided to ask, if it's safely to remove or it's they needed to be replaced and seems like I'll finish by removing them both.
but anyway other owners experience is welcome
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Just like I said........ the back side get's scratched....
unless you are talking about the sticker that is most likely found on the bottom half (the half that is on the same plane as the keyboard).
If so, then I hope it only scratches everything but the qwerty keys.

test157 said:
how long you are useing it without stickers? and how offten do you open hw keyboard?
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I took it off within a couple days, cause thats when i noticed they were even there lol. Its hard to say how often i open it. I generally text with the keyboard all the time (vs using the on screen one). Some days ill send 4 or 5 text messages, some i wont send any.
I dont think any of us has really had it long enough to even accumulate scratches from simple wear and tear. What you have to realize is that plastic film, is the same kind they wrap EVERYTHING up with. It was on my 46" LCD (the frame i mean) as well as both of my 19" monitors (also the frames). They wrap electronics up in that crap to keep it from getting scratched during manufacturing and shipping, but it rarly ever looks good left on.
My point? it isnt meant for long term protection. Just rip it off and run with it. The plastic housing is the same material/texture as what they use on laptops (least on mine) so it will take the wear and tear. I suspect over time it will develop 'slide' marks on it, but it wont take anything away from the device itself.

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yep thank you, now i c that it's the one right decision, just to remove them
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I'am sure that we are talking about the same things but anyway I attached photo to this post, with marked RED scratches on the sticker, and marked in BLUE came off part of this sticker.
all my previous HTC phones herlad and wizard had special sliders - where the display glides, here it glides on the viewable area and it don't seems really very scratch resistance, so it's confused me.

the protector at the middle top of the keyboard, and the one behind the screen
i wonder whether sliding is affected by the 2 protectors?

I had 4 protectors: screen protector, behind screen one, and two at keyboard - on it's sides (on of them you can see on my photo), so while gliding only these 2 protectors are affected.

i removed the small one at the middle top of the keyboard
now the sliding is smoother!
i am left with the one behind the screen... should i remove..?

ok... i removed the one at the back
and now the sliding action is super smooth

People who got the TP2 from T-Mobile!!! Screen protector???

Does it come with a screen protector????????? If it doesn't then I should of ordered one in advance!
Let me know.

Came with only one screen protector behind the manual and the CD

Good! Do you think it's reusable? I don't want to put it on and then find out I have a faulty device after a few days.

The Tmo Rep put mine on for me. He must be new, though. He had no clue the TP2 came out today, i had to tell him. alskdjf. and when he tried to put the screen protector on, he looked like if he was trying to do NeuroSurgery or something. so now i have a big air bubble running down the entire left side of the device. and on top of that, when he tried to take the battery cover off, he tried to PRY it off the device. WTF?! it really is not that hard AT ALL to take the cover off. Right? i was a little stunned when he tried to do that. But everythings fine.

Yeah usually when I get a device from the store they try to do everything for you. I would have to say no it's ok I got it. Then they would just put it in the bag and I would leave.

i got my tp2 today, and it came with factory plastic screen protector, took me half an hour to realize why i couldnt hear volume on calls.. realized the one that comes with the phone has the top speaker completely SEALED/blocked off... then theres an extra screen protector that came with the phone in the box, that one has preholes for buttons + speaker.. it took a quick 2minutes of finesse to put it down without any air bubbles, i found this quite easy after realizing they had good stick, just do it slowly

where can i get extra protectors? didnt put mine on very straight.

where are you guy's getting the TMo TP2? Doesn't show on their website yet

Showed up for me on Tmo sites last night: I went to a Tmo store to get one cause I didn't want to wait for shipping. Walmart.com also carries the full line of TMo phones.
As for screen protectors, I like Invisi-shield from Zagg. They protect very well and add a non-slip surface. I just hate the idea of dropping my $800 (HD) phone.

You can call T-Mobile to order your TP2. For the screen protector, I like "bestskinsever". I use them for every device I had.

I ordered mine from Brando, Honkong. I use have their SP on my HD. It was the BEST ones I have seen thus far. But I am not sure if the one I ordered will fit the TP2, as on the Engadget review, I saw fromt he Pics that the Europe TP2 size is a bit differnt to the Tmo USA ones. I should be getting it in a day or 2. I will update once I have it.

it comes whit a screen protector , just look for it in the box where the manual is. (TMO TP2)

Day 31.....the bottom will peel!
Buy a screen protector....the complimentary one is better than nothing at all.
Patiently waiting for "Write Shields" to come out with one. Excellent quality, been using since Kaiser.

I ordered a Zagg for mine - the one in the box is serviceable, but IMHO not what you want. I've been an "Invisible Shield" fan for a long time.

josh_prayyforplagues said:
The Tmo Rep put mine on for me. He must be new, though. He had no clue the TP2 came out today, i had to tell him. alskdjf. and when he tried to put the screen protector on, he looked like if he was trying to do NeuroSurgery or something. so now i have a big air bubble running down the entire left side of the device. and on top of that, when he tried to take the battery cover off, he tried to PRY it off the device. WTF?! it really is not that hard AT ALL to take the cover off. Right? i was a little stunned when he tried to do that. But everythings fine.
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Try your stylus, it's probably jammed in there now. You can't remove the case without removing the stylus first! Otherwise something gets bent inside. I bet the T-Mo Rep didn't know that, and now you gotta return the phone for a new one.
But, LOL, that's why my phone volume was so quiet!! I still have the factory screen protector on it, which covers the speaker, as someone said! LOL.

dwny said:
Day 31.....the bottom will peel!
Buy a screen protector....the complimentary one is better than nothing at all.
Patiently waiting for "Write Shields" to come out with one. Excellent quality, been using since Kaiser.
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Agree! The one it comes with is a piece of crap!

I got 2 screen protectors with mine from tmo. First is on there and still going strong way into 3 months. Works a treat. Thats not to say others are better but ive not had and issues so far...touch wood

ace10134 said:
Try your stylus, it's probably jammed in there now. You can't remove the case without removing the stylus first! Otherwise something gets bent inside. I bet the T-Mo Rep didn't know that, and now you gotta return the phone for a new one.
But, LOL, that's why my phone volume was so quiet!! I still have the factory screen protector on it, which covers the speaker, as someone said! LOL.
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I disagree (At least w/the USA version)...read the following thread again (before your post): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547538
The cover tabs are not even in the same plane as the stylus...Although I will agree that the T-Mo Rep may have broken a tab while cranking the cover off, causing it to fall in the adjacent stylus slot...

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I disagree (At least w/the USA version)...read the following thread again (before your post): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547538
The cover tabs are not even in the same plane as the stylus...Although I will agree that the T-Mo Rep may have broken a tab while cranking the cover off, causing it to fall in the adjacent stylus slot...
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Yea, I read that. That's what hinted me off that the stylus was damaged. And obviously it did get damaged due to the back case, because it's barely removable.

ace10134 said:
Yea, I read that. That's what hinted me off that the stylus was damaged. And obviously it did get damaged due to the back case, because it's barely removable.
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Just a quick check, but does your back cover still have two tabs on each side, and one towards the bottom (middle)? Not sure if it's you or josh_prayyforplagues that was having the stylus problem tho...

invisible shield

hi all
i've preordered a desire, it's my third htc device but the first device with capacitive display.
does anybody have experience with a capacitive display and invisible shield?
is this going to bite each other? maybe it's a stupid question, but i want to protect my brand new phone..
thank for replies!

I had Invisible Shield on my Hero, and it's useless. You won't get scratches on your screen, unless you try to make scratches.

I've tried this product on two phones - one capacitive multitouch - the other a bb bold. A waste of time and money for both. You'll be peeling it all off in a number of weeks as the edges get frayed and any speck of dust you trapped when 'installing' will drive you nuts!
Just stick with the phone - you'll be fine.

Yes is a waste of money and time. I have it on my HD and the stylus constantly get stuck cos is the shield is too soft... Don’t bother.

The desire will have a teflon layer on the screen. It makes sure you dont get fingerprints on your screen. If you put a screenprotector on it you will have fingerprints on your screen again. So I think it's even worse to put a screen protector on your screen.

Wow everyone is against the protective layer. I have had it on my Hero since minute one, for 5 months now, and until now you can't tell it's there. I also use the phone and play with it constantly.
I'm sure we all hate to see the screen get scratched right? so it's better safe than sorry, in my opinion. You just need to be extra careful when installing it to eliminate any apparent dust getting trapped.
I would also recommend buying and extra one for the long run.

thanks for all replies.
hmm.. i love my invisible shield on the diamond. it's no as slippery as the plastic back cover and if i write with the stylus it helps to. also i can put the desire on my car's dashboard and it's not slipping away (for navigation).
i think i'll buy a shield. if it's not good, i have removed it within a blink of an eye and my desire costs very little, so i can absorb this 30 $

So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.

Agree with the others. It's a waste of money.
I had a shield on my Diamond, and I think it was needed on that one, but on my Hero it is absolutely not needed.
I've had my Hero for almost 8 months, and not a scratch. I've dropped it on the ground several times, but the screen remains as shiney as the day I got it.

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So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
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me? oh.. come on! i just want to know how other people think about this.
and a scratch-proof display is just a fairy-tale!! i think you work for a display company with this (really) scratch-proof display..
no way, buddy, really
edit: anyway, not every screen protector is equal to another and my first question was, if a protector stops the electrical field of the touchpanel... that's it..

I have a a Zagg one (same product) on my Zune HD. No isses here at all. Also put it on a Omnia HD this was a bit more problematic as it was my first time and the edges did fray but my Zune HD looks good as new .

Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.

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Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!

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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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yes, my thoughts exactly

He is sitting at a dinner table that has clearly just had dinner eaten from it and there is lot' of evidence that the food was sticky finger type stuff in fairness to the poor fella!
I will use a screen protector but defo not paying $30. When I got my G1 I used a razor blade to cut the little pull tab thing off the transit screen protector and left it in place until 2 weeks ago. 17 months! I still have the other one that came in the box! anyone want to buy it?

[Survey] How many of you have experienced the screen peeling problem?

Hi everyone,
I am seriously considering buying the Moto Z2 Force as a replacement of my old Moto X 2014 (I still love it but my screen got a bit shattered one year ago:crying.
The only thing that is holding me back is that screen peeling problem I heard of. So, after reading some threads I would like to see how spread the problem is by proposing you this survey.
In case you had the issue, it would be very useful for me to know how you solved (got a replacement, removed the shutterproof screen protector, ...?)
Thanks a lot!

Here I am, replying to my own survey!
Unfortunately, not as I would like to...
I bought it and on day 2 I noticed this issue https://youtu.be/KfEjQWtvckQ which is how everything starts I suppose...?? So, I think this will be a "In the first month case".
Now I have to think of what to do:
Keep it and wait for it... (what then?!)
Send it back to seller asking for a refund => Buy another model, other brand (It would be really sad though)
Send it back to seller asking for a change with another one (what if the new one will have the same issue?)
Removing somehow the screen protector and the glue (any tutorials? Will it void the warranty?)
Any suggestion is much appreciated
Thanks a lot

I knot sure what that video was suppose to show. But to me it showed nothing of importance.. I have had my z2 Force for about 2 months with no issues.. Use a screen protector or a case with one, and you should have zero issues.

doubledragon5 said:
I knot sure what that video was suppose to show. But to me it showed nothing of importance.. I have had my z2 Force for about 2 months with no issues.. Use a screen protector or a case with one, and you should have zero issues.
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The video is supposed to show a problem with the shattershield screen where the outer screen protector lense is detached from the inner layer.
Some people on Lenovo forums reported screen peeling issue after experiencing something like the video shows.
On the same forum, some other people claim they had a screen protector on when the peeling started.
Anyway, I contacted Motorola Support and they:
Confirmed that if you remove the outer layer, the warranty is permanently voided for the whole phone... Not good
Suggested me to refer to the seller for a substitution since I am in the first two weeks after buying the phone
Still deciding what to do...

I tried the tempered glass screen protector I ordered.
It doesn't adhere correctly on the top of the screen but especially on the bottom, near the fingerprint scanner.
So, the screen is not perfectly flat.

kir89 said:
I tried the tempered glass screen protector I ordered.
It doesn't adhere correctly on the top of the screen but especially on the bottom, near the fingerprint scanner.
So, the screen is not perfectly flat.
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I purchased a Otter Box Defender, and that might be why I have no issues.. On my G5 Plus I had a Otter Box commuter and a screen protector and they worked well as well.. If your nervous about that pone, best bet might be to replace with a different model.. I sure as hell would. Good luck.

kir89 said:
Here I am, replying to my own survey!
Unfortunately, not as I would like to...
I bought it and on day 2 I noticed this issue
which is how everything starts I suppose...?? So, I think this will be a "In the first month case".
Now I have to think of what to do:
Keep it and wait for it... (what then?!)
Send it back to seller asking for a refund => Buy another model, other brand (It would be really sad though)
Send it back to seller asking for a change with another one (what if the new one will have the same issue?)
Removing somehow the screen protector and the glue (any tutorials? Will it void the warranty?)
Any suggestion is much appreciated
Thanks a lot
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Have the same issue and can hear that. But it seems to be normal. I can push in the screen a little bit. I think it's not the original foil of the top, which is pelling. I think it's hearable because it's plastic and elastic. I can see (by screen on) that's not the foil while I'm pressing the screen in. It's more the complete screen. Would it be the foil, I wouldn't see what I see by pushing in the screen. Plastic is easly elastic. That's all.

Here is an update.
Yesterday I received the other plastic screen protector I ordered.
It fits perfectly, since it's not as rigid as glass.
Since many of you have the same "clicking" noise while pressing the screen, I think I will try to use it in the next days to see how it goes. I have some weeks to think about keeping it or sending it back to the seller.
Hope everything will be ok, I'll keep you updated

kir89 said:
Here is an update.
Yesterday I received the other plastic screen protector I ordered.
It fits perfectly, since it's not as rigid as glass.
Since many of you have the same "clicking" noise while pressing the screen, I think I will try to use it in the next days to see how it goes. I have some weeks to think about keeping it or sending it back to the seller.
Hope everything will be ok, I'll keep you updated
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It's not the foil, right? That's the plastic which is"clicking". I'm short-sighted and I'm pretty sure that I can see that's just elastic at the bottom. Looks so that the foil is ok and 100% save on the screen. But it's nice to have a elastic screen :laugh: No scratches after month. So, don't need a screen protector. The quality seems good. It's like wings of a airplane. Elastic, too And there is all ok, too. Normally

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It's not the foil, right? That's the plastic which is"clicking". I'm short-sighted and I'm pretty sure that I can see that's just elastic at the bottom. Looks so that the foil is ok and 100% save on the screen. But it's nice to have a elastic screen :laugh: No scratches after month. So, don't need a screen protector. The quality seems good. It's like wings of a airplane. Elastic, too And there is all ok, too. Normally
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I am not sure it's the foil or not... However, I don't think is the screen which is moving, that's probably more a refraction effect. We should ask to those that removed the protection layer, if they where experiencing this and after the removal it stopped.
Foil or not, if the "clicking" sound is so common even in devices without peeling issues, I will give it a try.
I just need to use it, only time will say if it was a good idea to keep it :fingers-crossed:

kir89 said:
I am not sure it's the foil or not... However, I don't think is the screen which is moving, that's probably more a refraction effect. We should ask to those that removed the protection layer, if they where experiencing this and after the removal it stopped.
Foil or not, if the "clicking" sound is so common even in devices without peeling issues, I will give it a try.
I just need to use it, only time will say if it was a good idea to keep it :fingers-crossed:
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Screen is moving down at the bottom, for me it's 100% so. And if I do it carefully, I can see it without hearing it. But yes, would be nice if anyone can test it without the foil. But, I can trust what I see, all real. So, it's the plastic. Hope anyone else can confirm this.
Another problem, what I have seen. I have burn in at the bottom. The navigation buttons keeps/burn in. Now I have set up the moto fingerprint navigation and it should gone next time. And that's really good. Works very well. And the space of the screen is now bigger, nice effect.
But, good to know with the burn in. This smartphones are made for a short time, maybe 2 years. On my computer monitor I have never seen burn ins like that. So, it's a market/business. Screen not made for working over years
And what really is very very good is the battery. Have last time good 8.5-9h sot. So, that's better than many people think.
But back to the screen. That's the topic here. Maybe we have to bring it to the repair center after 1.5 years. Maybe because burn ins, peeling and so on. We will see

If you guys do the warranty replacement through Motorola and not your carrier they will send you a new moto z2 force with a 2nd gen screen if you ask em about it. They have a fix for it lol I just got mine back and it's totally different

ninjakira said:
If you guys do the warranty replacement through Motorola and not your carrier they will send you a new moto z2 force with a 2nd gen screen if you ask em about it. They have a fix for it lol I just got mine back and it's totally different
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Ok, maybe I have a newer one. Here no scratches after months. Foil ok. Just the clicker at pushing. You don't hear that on your device? Which versions are 2. generation, after which produce date?

allrightlite said:
Ok, maybe I have a newer one. Here no scratches after months. Foil ok. Just the clicker at pushing. You don't hear that on your device? Which versions are 2. generation, after which produce date?
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What am I supposed to be hearing on my device lol? And idk I just personally call it a 2nd gen screen cause it's easier to explain it like that to the people that I live around in my area ??there not to bright lol. I do know it's not the original shatter screen stuff that was peeling. it honestly was pretty hard for me to understand what my moto agent was saying to me when he explained it so I only caught bits and pieces. My model number is still xt1789-04 TMobile variant. I don't have a clicker also