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what is it, where can i find it, why can't I find it anywhere on market or google? is it better than clockwork backup/restore?
I assume you are trying to make a nandroid backup? This can be done thru clockwork recovery. It is making a backup of the NAND, or flash memory in which the system/data is stored on.
Haha
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I actually had to research that early on, so don't feel bad
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Now that's funny.
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This thread is failtastic
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We were all new at some point guys...
To the OP:
1: Boot into Clockwork Recovery.
2: Go down to Backup And Restore
3: Press Backup.
4: Wait about 3minutes til it completes.
Thats what they call a Nandroid Backup. Its not an app or anything like that.
We make Nandroid backups incase we mess up our phones, we just restore it if were able to get into clockwork.
If you dont have Clockworkmod installed, go to the sticky in Android Development for the Epic and follow the guide.
PM me if you need any more help than that. I remember being a noob as well.
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so to sum it up, if you're planning on jumping from rom to rom to theme to kernel,
having a nandroid backup is like using a condom.
which you should, cuz u never know.
Stay in school.
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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petrafan007 said:
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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Yup, if you go to backup and restore you can see it says "Nandroid" at the top of the screen. Hence Nandroid Backup.
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petrafan007 said:
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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Always, always make a full backup prior to making any "major" change (rom, kernel, theme). I archive my backups on my server to keep from cluttering up the sd card and only carry the last backup on the sd.
You can also restore just data or just cache if you do a full wipe (i.e., for a rom flash) and don't want to deal with titanium (advanced restore) - saved my ass on a couple bad downloads/beta roms.
Also, welcome to the wonderful (and addicting) world of modding
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addiction is definitely the right word. probably tried at least 7 roms. finally settled on the quantum rom with dk17 modem. works great! wish it was a little faster though.
petrafan007 said:
addiction is definitely the right word. probably tried at least 7 roms. finally settled on the quantum rom with dk17 modem. works great! wish it was a little faster though.
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DK17 modem? Where did you find this? I'm still on the DK05 modem.
brianbrain said:
DK17 modem? Where did you find this? I'm still on the DK05 modem.
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He either meant to say DK17 Kernel, or DK05 Modem.
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yes, sorry, kernel
i always saw that option before but didnt know what it acully did untill now
Whats the difference and what are the benefits of RFS and EXT4? Sorry if it's been posted already. I'm on my phone and it didnt pull up anything.
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Ext4 is supposed to write back quicker and avoid cache write-back lag. Also, the no-journal mod makes it write to disk less. This, in theory, should make the phone snappier. Some people say it ext4 works wonders. Others have had strange lag problems. Personally, I didn't notice much difference and am sticking to ext4 for now. It is arguably a better file system than rfs, which is just fat32 with some journaling that samsung added to it.
thanks... Another question... How can I get my device on ext4? Is it flashable through clockwork?
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Run the one click root with cwm3. Once you boot into cwm3 then it converts it for you.
Ok this may sound dumb.. but ok I have done the 1 click root with cw3. So I'm assuming I should be running ext4.. right? But thr rom I'm runing is rfs only (epic experience). So how is this possible? Or am I over thinking this lol
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Did you flash epic experience with cwm3? Or was that something you installed before cwm3?
DiGi760 said:
Did you flash epic experience with cwm3? Or was that something you installed before cwm3?
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I rooted with 1 click root with cw3.. installed the Bonsi rom. Had some issues with it so I switched to Epic Experience rom
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Sorry for the stupid questions but please bear with me...
First of all i have my epic with an deoxeded eb13/ rfs/ with genocide kernel and i want to put SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0 on my epic.
However i have a few questions:
1) right now i have an epic with clockwork 2.5.1 i think and rooted it with
oneclick 2.5.5, so i dont have ext4... so i was wondering if i could still flash
this rom without much problems
2) i heard that there is a nasty bug that wont let you charge your phone while
it is off with some phones with clockwork 3.0.0.6 (or something like that) and
ext4... and i was wondering if that was the case with this rom?
On a side note... does the can't charge while off bug affect all phones with clockwork 3.0.0.6 and ext4?
Thanks in advance!
You have.to use the one.click root with cwm6 and boot onto it so it can convert you filesystem to ext4. Then you can.flash the syndicate rom. That rom seems to be.the.only one that has the.problem with the phone.locking up when turned off on charge. I'm on bonsai rom and it doesn't do that.
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wait so bonsai with ext4 and the new clockwork on eb13 works fine and doesnt have this problem with the battery charging? -thats the only reason why i havent converted to ext4
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Sorry for the stupid questions but please bear with me...
First of all i have my epic with an deoxeded eb13/ rfs/ with genocide kernel and i want to put SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0 on my epic.
However i have a few questions:
1) right now i have an epic with clockwork 2.5.1 i think and rooted it with
oneclick 2.5.5, so i dont have ext4... so i was wondering if i could still flash
this rom without much problems
2) i heard that there is a nasty bug that wont let you charge your phone while
it is off with some phones with clockwork 3.0.0.6 (or something like that) and
ext4... and i was wondering if that was the case with this rom?
On a side note... does the can't charge while off bug affect all phones with clockwork 3.0.0.6 and ext4?
Thanks in advance!
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1. You need to odin to eb13 using the eb13+ext4 odin
2. Yes. You cant charge while the phone is off (you can while it is on or locked)
3. It does effect all roms
Steps for eb13 syndicaterom
1. Download odin and ext4+eb13 and follow those instructions
2. Before booting into clockworkmod (vol down, power and camera), load syndicaterom onto the sd card
3. Boot into cwm, it should do alot of gibberish. When it is done, make sure the text is orange
4. Wipe data/factory reset. Do this three times
5. Wipe cache once
6. Go to advanced and wipe dalvik once
7. Go back and go to install zip from sd, go to choose zip from sd and choose syndicate, choose yes and wait for ot to finish
8. Reboot and have fun!
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Okay but I'm still worried about not being able to charge my phone while its off...
Will I still have this problem if I just convert it using the new oneclickroot and continue using stock eb13 deoxded and genocide kernel and I just want to double check... if I use the new bonsai 3.0 with clockwork 3.x and ext4, I won't have the same problem?
Sory for all of the stupid q's, I soft-bricked my phone and don't want to do it again...
Thanks!
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Okay but I'm still worried about not being able to charge my phone while its off...
Will I still have this problem if I just convert it using the new oneclickroot and continue using stock eb13 deoxded and genocide kernel and I just want to double check... if I use the new bonsai 3.0 with clockwork 3.x and ext4, I won't have the same problem?
Sory for all of the stupid q's, I soft-bricked my phone and don't want to do it again...
Thanks!
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Just use bonsai 3.0.0 (maybe it is twilight kernal that causes the charging issues) if you want to charge while it is off.
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Thanks I'll try bonzai once I get done with my hw and report back in on my (hopefully) sucess!
In worse case sinenario, I made a nandroid backup so I can revert me back to rfs right?
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Thanks I'll try bonzai once I get done with my hw and report back in on my (hopefully) sucess!
In worse case sinenario, I made a nandroid backup so I can revert me back to rfs right?
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Nandroid doesnt bring you back. Odin does and maybe if you use the 2.5.5 root it will fix your batter not charging if it doesnt.
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Well in that case I'll stay away from the twilight kernel to avoid using odin again... thanks for the heads up!
So, that means that the twilight kernel doesn't agree with ext4 and the new cwm, causing the battery bug...
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I would say get one of those chargers off of ebay with two extra batteries for $10, it has worked great for me. No charging in the phone anymore.
I always worried about how hot the phone gets when the battery is charging.
i believe, from what i've read in the Frozen thread, the battery does charge, even tho it doesn't look like it. unless i'm wrong...
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i believe, from what i've read in the Frozen thread, the battery does charge, even tho it doesn't look like it. unless i'm wrong...
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Correct. It is a graphical glitch.
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Hey thanks for the tip... Im gonna try to orderone today... Thanks!
Ps. Anything that you guys may find useful, dont hesitate to tell me
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So far the only issue I'm having with this ROM is a force close of the stock email app, which I prefer over the gmail app. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
Otherwise I am quite happy with this ROM...it's the first ROM that I flashed (second overall) that I could figure out!
So I can still charge my phone on syndicate but I wont be able to tell if it fully charged?
(I can already forsee overheating issues and me messing up my battery due to leaving it charging over night)
Thanks for clarifying the battery problem...
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I just noticed another issue with this ROM. Words With Friends doesn't load when you open an ongoing game. The ad tries to load and then you get this:
http://twitpic.com/47c2c4
Yeah you can. But you could also just leave your phone on and charge overnight if that worries you. Place the phone somewhere where it won't heat up easily, like a table or something that won't absorb heat. Only bugs with this ROM noted is the stock email app FCs when opening an unread email or marking an unread email to being "read," some people noted a few issues using dolphin browser and it loading pages, and the battery thing (but that is a CWM 3 issue). Concerning the Words with Friends bug, there was a fixed posted in the ROM thread, just do a search.
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Yeah you can. But you could also just leave your phone on and charge overnight if that worries you. Place the phone somewhere where it won't heat up easily, like a table or something that won't absorb heat. Only bugs with this ROM noted is the stock email app FCs when opening an unread email or marking an unread email to being "read," some people noted a few issues using dolphin browser and it loading pages, and the battery thing (but that is a CWM 3 issue). Concerning the Words with Friends bug, there was a fixed posted in the ROM thread, just do a search.
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Thank you! I found these instructions but I am very, very new to this and would need a step by step explanation as to how to do this.
We do block ads by default - though that shouldn't show up when ads are blocked. If you'd like to test, just rename /etc/hosts to /etc/hosts.bak and reboot.
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droid newb said:
Thank you! I found these instructions but I am very, very new to this and would need a step by step explanation as to how to do this.
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You're welcome! You would need Root Explorer (or some other similar app) to rename the file. Just navigate to the root of the directory, find the folder called "etc," go there and find "hosts" and rename it to "hosts.bak." To be honest, I haven't done it myself, but I would assume that's all you would have to do lol. I've also heard that if you installed the AdFree app and then uninstall it, that would fix it too. Again, I haven't tried it before.
To be safe, make a nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong. Better safe than sorry
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You're welcome! You would need Root Explorer (or some other similar app) to rename the file. Just navigate to the root of the directory, find the folder called "etc," go there and find "hosts" and rename it to "hosts.bak." To be honest, I haven't done it myself, but I would assume that's all you would have to do lol. I've also heard that if you installed the AdFree app and then uninstall it, that would fix it too. Again, I haven't tried it before.
To be safe, make a nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong. Better safe than sorry
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Thank you! I will give that a try tomorrow!
Hello,
I just odined to stock EC05 with a full data wipe and it is totally stock except for the prerooted 2.5 part. It has clockwork 2.5, but I want to convert to EXT4 and Clockwork 3.0, How can I do this?
Thanks
download one click cwm3
and run it it'll convert you to cwm3...
iSaint said:
download one click cwm3
and run it it'll convert you to cwm3...
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Does this wipe data?
blazinazn said:
Does this wipe data?
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No but don't forget to have an EXT4 compatible ROM ready to flash after installing CWM3.
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blazinazn said:
Does this wipe data?
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no it wont wipe data if you stay on stock but if you're flashing another rom and not staying on stock you will be required to wipe data.
iSaint said:
no it wont wipe data if you stay on stock but if you're flashing another rom and not staying on stock you will be required to wipe data.
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I'd prefer to stay on stock. Don't really want to load a custom rom. Thanks for the heads up.
blazinazn said:
I'd prefer to stay on stock. Don't really want to load a custom rom. Thanks for the heads up.
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Then i recommend you root with the 2.5.5 version as
EXT4 will be no benefit to you bro i believe you have to be on a compatible EXT4 ROM
iSaint said:
Then i recommend you root with the 2.5.5 version as
EXT4 will be no benefit to you bro i believe you have to be on a compatible EXT4 ROM
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I've rooted already on 2.5.5. I was just under the impression that EXT > RFS so that's why I wanted to switch.
blazinazn said:
I've rooted already on 2.5.5. I was just under the impression that EXT > RFS so that's why I wanted to switch.
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Yes it is better as proven by now. But since you want to stay on the stock ROM and not lose and Data then you should stay with 2.5.5
If its just a problem of losing your data you can always back it up with an app like "Titanium Backup" and try an EXT4 ROM but if you want complete stock with root then use 2.5.5
Maybe you should try using a custom kernal. One that is compatible with ext4
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Yes you can study on stick tom with EXT4. You need an EXT4 compatible kernel. It's not the rom. Just boot into cwm3 an let it convert your and then flash a kernel like genocide or twilight.
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Just so you know, I tried it myself. Ext4 does not boot when 100% stock.
aleph23 said:
Just so you know, I tried it myself. Ext4 does not boot when 100% stock.
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What if you remove some of the sprint bloatware?
That has no effect on the filesystem the kernel supports.
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That has no effect on the filesystem the kernel supports.
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+1
Yes, it's kernel-dependant. I figured as much but wanted to test it out. Stock ec05 will not boot ext4.
I am new to rooting the Epic 4g, but not new to rooting in general. I had an HTC Hero (cdma) and am now on the Evo 4g. I understand all the terminology associated with rooting/flashing, etc, however, the Epic is a little different. I just rooted my wife's ECO5 Epic using the most recent One-Click method and everything worked great. The first thing I did was make a backup. I would like to flash Syndicate Frozen 1.2 but am a little confused on this whole files system jargon as it isn't existent or an option on the EVO. My questions are as follows: If I flash Syndicate Rom 1.2 and the Genocide kernel, I understand that it will convert my files system to Ext4 automatically, but if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock? Or do I need to ODIN back to stock and reset up my whole system as I had it prior? I see that the One-Click 3.1.0.1 method I used has dual file system support. What does that all impact? Just new roms or my current ROM. I have done a bunch of research but haven't been comfortable in my findings enough to start flashing. Can someone please clarify this for me?
I believe there are scripts available to convert between the two file systems, in both directions.
That said, EXT4 is the way to go imo. Don't be shy about it. Sfr 1.2 is top rom in my book. Do take the time to go get the other goodies as well. Hotspot hack, and the supercharger script. It's all amazing when it comes together.
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Clockworkmod 3.1.0.1 does not restore filesystem type (ext4, rfs). You can either odin back to rfs or flash a .zip in Clockworkmod. Also, if you have access to odin, there is NO WAY you can brick your phone. It will ALWAYS be recoverable.
(unless you intentionally brick it, there are ways)
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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Best to restore first and do the conversion, but there is no reason you can't restore after. Although I usually do advanced restore data between file systems myself.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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If I remember right, stock runs on ext4. As long as you have a different kernel. Stock kernel does NOT run on ext4.
legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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That is 2 different questions. One no stock kernel is RFS. Two, restore as I mentioned before, advanced restore data only and you will be fine. You may have to set up your accounts but that is about it.
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I think i need to ask the question differently. Right now, all that I have done since getting her the phone is complete the One-click root 3.1.0.1. I then made a backup. I haven't done anything else or made any changes. If I now flash Syndicate 1.2 frozen but want to return to my backup, are you suggesting I don't need to ODIN back to stock, but simply advance restore in recovery? Sorry for being an idiot about this guys, but like I said, I am an Evo flashaholic and its taking me some getting used to speaking Epic language! Plus, I would hate to flub something up since its my wife's phone!
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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I would not start with SRF 1.2. Because you also need to flash a kernel. Start by flashing a ROM that comes with a kernel. If it is for someone else keep it simple like ReRFS ROM. I would not even do EXT4 unless you are sure you have journaling enabled. The first freeze, drop or battery pull will cause Force Closes galore. Unless you are planning on supporting that phone constantly, keep it simple. And yes most times restore works fine without goling back to Odin.
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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90% of the time it will restore just fine.
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Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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legasus233 said:
Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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ugothakd said:
The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
ugothakd said:
I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
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He further confused me later on but going by the OP, then you are right and the best bet at that point is to Odin a prerooted stock ROM like EC05plus to save a step and then restore everything if he didn't like SRF 1.2 and Genocide.
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