I was wondering if it was possible to remove 3g data and voice service from an EVO running 2.2, while keeping Wimax intact.
I'm using my EVO solely on my Clearwire account, and I'm thinking those radios being on, while not in service cause battery hell.
What could be removed in order to achieve this? If possible.
Thanks in advance.
(I could have sworn I did this one time by destroying a Sense build and using an alternative launcher to use the phone, as there was no signal bar, and it no longer said "Searching for service" or "Sprint".)
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Larbo said:
I was wondering if it was possible to remove 3g data and voice service from an EVO running 2.2, while keeping Wimax intact.
I'm using my EVO solely on my Clearwire account, and I'm thinking those radios being on, while not in service cause battery hell.
What could be removed in order to achieve this? If possible.
Thanks in advance.
(I could have sworn I did this one time by destroying a Sense build and using an alternative launcher to use the phone, as there was no signal bar, and it no longer said "Searching for service" or "Sprint".)
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Can always turn 3g...but I'm sure its possible...its a different radio
buying a hotspot and using wifi
you can use switch pro widget. Has setting to make airplane mode (from its widget) to only turn off voice (also turns off 3g data). Then make another 4g widget and you should be good from there... unless i misunderstood what you wanted...
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My wife has a problem with her EVO. Not so much with the EVO itself, but with Sprint service.
Within the building she works, she has terrible reception. Because of this, if she leaves mobile internet enabled, after a 6 hour day, her battery will be at 30%.The battery status says that she spent 60% without signal. I did do the "trick" to change her phone from GSM to CDMA using that diag menu from the dial menu, but again, the issue with her is that when she is deep in her building, she doesn't have any reception.
And of course, if she disables mobile internet before she gets to work, her battery is just fine when she leaves work.
Now, I am aware that you can either hold down the power button and turn it off and/or go into the options and enable it. We use LauncherPro, so we lost the ability to add the HTC sense mobile internet toggle widget.
Here are a few questions:
1. Does the Locale application work on the EVO, and if so, does it allow you to turn on/off mobile internet on a CDMA phone based on your location?
2. Is there a widget for the HTC EVO that lets you turn on/off mobile internet that works if you're not using HTC sense? The few I've found don't appear to work on a CDMA phone, or had reported problems.
just out of curiosity... You can't use the power button because your launcher does not have that feature? ... or you are looking for an automated way?
Does verizon have better coverage there? You could always try using their towers.
Locale does indeed work on the Evo, however it might be because I don't have the specific plugin, but i don't see any parameters to just turn off mobile internet. I think you can alternatively turn on wifi and have it auto connect to wifi at her work if they have it, since having wifi connected turns off mobile internet.
Another alternative is settings profile, which i haven't used myself but from the description it looks like it functions like locale, but also has a widget.
Lastly, when I need to toggle mobile internet, i'm using switchpro widget, which does have a toggle for mobile internet, as well as 4g and a few other options.
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Does verizon have better coverage there? You could always try using their towers.
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How do you use their towers but wouldn't that be roaming ??
Try Timerrific. It let's you use time base profiles to enable and disable stiff and its free.
I use a widget called Dazzle.
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How do you use their towers but wouldn't that be roaming ??
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Yes. Which is free. I do this all day every day. Where I work, service for both Sprint and Verizon suck. However I usually have one or the other and it will pick whichever one is better. Also, in the metro tunnels (subwway in Washington DC), Verizon has great service so I maintain a connection through them almost the whole way home.
Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks
- Check data roaming
- Uncheck the guards and the sound
- Click Roaming and set it for automatic
Is everyone getting voice and internet at the same time, my coworker said sprint wont let me cause his evo cant, but mine works the 3g dissapears when in a call so I just tab down and hit 4g to google and talk at the same time
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4g allows you to do this not 3g. But from what I have heard with the network upgrade will be able to do this....
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Never tried it but I'm curious, does the GPS work while on the phone or is that considered data?
GPS works with a call - not sure if it's still streaming data or working off extended cache.
I was on a call and got into my web browser while on my bluetooth to test it out - works. Pretty sweet
Sprint and VZ's implementation of 3G does not allow 3G+data at the same time. The technology supports it, the carriers have chose not to implement it for whatever reasons.
Use can use voice+data on Wifi and 4G because they are separate from the CDMA radio.
Also while using GPS, the software sort of "reads ahead" when it comes to the streaming of maps. However, if you are on a 3G connection while using navigation, when you switch back to the navigation software while on a phone call, you will find that the phone will continue with directions for a minute or two, and then the map will go blank, even though the location will continue to move, as the phone has GPS location, but no maps to tell it where exactly you are.
Hope this helps
^^ This right here.
Has anyone found an app to toggle the 4G on/off yet? I realise it is disabled in Android 2.3, but I see they have it working for the Evo and maybe others. I also saw at least one paid app that says it works, but I don't want to pay for it and then find out it doesn't work.
Thanks,
All the 4g toggles I've tried work on WiMax only
Why do you want to disable 4g? Its not like an lte out Wimax radio that causes massive battery drain so why turn it off?
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Data Enabler Widget
really? i did not know this. I'm not sure what Sprint uses, but i know when i had sprint if i disabled my mobile data it made my battery last MUCH longer.
most of the standard 4g toggle widgets included in most widget packs, i.e. widgetzoid, do not work on this phone.
the one toggle i have found to work is called "Data Enabler Widget" by "farproc" it is available on the market.
Be aware that picture messaging does NOT work without 4g data on, and you must re enable it before you use it. (wifi too for some stupid reason)
why disable?
I want to disable it primarily because i don't have unlimited data, but also to extend battery life as well. If there is no toggle switch that works I will just have get used to the extra steps of turning it on and off through the settings menu.
Yesterday I used 50% of the data that I would normally use in a month, because I thought I was using wifi, but apparently was not. That tells me that the phone either is not holding the wifi signal at home very well or the wifi is not overriding the data connection. Either way, I need to be turning off the data connection when I am at home or using a wifi hotspot.
if you would take the time to read my post, i just provided you with the exact app you are looking for. it is a widget available on the android market. it is called;
DATA ENABLER WIDGET by farproc.
kthx.
bikemaker said:
I want to disable it primarily because i don't have unlimited data, but also to extend battery life as well. If there is no toggle switch that works I will just have get used to the extra steps of turning it on and off through the settings menu.
Yesterday I used 50% of the data that I would normally use in a month, because I thought I was using wifi, but apparently was not. That tells me that the phone either is not holding the wifi signal at home very well or the wifi is not overriding the data connection. Either way, I need to be turning off the data connection when I am at home or using a wifi hotspot.
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Another option then is any this party power control app. You can turn off mobile data through those.
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I always used the power control app on my Hero, but unfortunately the one for this phone doesn't include a data toggle.
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ApexZeph,
I tried the Data Enabler Widget you mentioned and it works perfectly! Thanks!
Sprint's 4G is not the same as HSPA+. HSPA+ is just 3G, or if you wanna feel better, 3.5G. It runs all the time and doesn't use extra battery because you're still only using the 3G radio. Sprint's 4G is WiMax, which is basically glorified Wifi and requires a totally separate radio. It works like Wifi; you turn it on, wait for it to scan and connect to the 4G network (which doesn't even deserve to be called 4G because it sucks ****).
Since you guys are on GSM, what you could do is disable 3G data and that would do it. You'd go to EDGE, but you'd save a ton of battery. Again, 4G is just a marketing term for you guys; you're still just using fast 3G.
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Why do you want to disable 4g? Its not like an lte out Wimax radio that causes massive battery drain so why turn it off?
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Its not?
4G on idle 2 hours: 18% drain from 100%
EDGE idle 2 hours: 5% drain from 100%.
4G is a bleeder.
kenvan19 said:
Why do you want to disable 4g? Its not like an lte out Wimax radio that causes massive battery drain so why turn it off?
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HSPA+ uses a lot more power than EDGE. Programs like Juice Defender use this fact to their advantage and disable HSPA when the screen is off, and I hear it just about doubles idle battery life.
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HSPA+ uses a lot more power than EDGE. Programs like Juice Defender use this fact to their advantage and disable HSPA when the screen is off, and I hear it just about doubles idle battery life.
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HSPA+ = 3G. Yes, 3G uses more power than EDGE. It has always been and will always be that way. There is no magical "4G" toggle because HSPA IS 3G. So the only way to turn off your faux-G is to turn off 3G data and fall back to EDGE.
There is no 2g/3g(4g) toggle that works on the stock roms. It will just take you to the settings page where you have to choose GSM/HSPA, GSM only, or HSPA only.
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There is no 2g/3g(4g) toggle that works on the stock roms. It will just take you to the settings page where you have to choose GSM/HSPA, GSM only, or HSPA only.
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GSM only = 2G only
HSPA = 3G/4G only (remember, they use the same radio)
GSM/HSPA+ = whatever is available, with HSPA having priority.
Hey everyone,
I spent 4 hours this evening reading up on how to Root, CWM, and Flash a ROM onto my SGS2. Contained in one of the threads (I believe it was [ROM][NOV 14]Bombaridier V.2.0) I came across a brief mention of a program which allows the user to toggle 4g Data on/off simply by clicking the icon. I downloaded it, and just now I flashed Bombaridier (awesome ROM btw). That problem is now gone (obviously) and I can not, for the life of me, remember what it was called. I'm hoping someone can throw me a bone here so I don't have to sift through hundreds of pages again in order to find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Nate
You are probably speaking of Juice Defender but Ill let you know of another program that is better IMO. It's called LLama its event based. I have two events 1. Mobile data on when screen is on and 2. Mobile data off when screen is off. Juice defender does the same thing but every fifften mins turns on 4g grabs emails etc and then turns off again. The reason I think LLama is better is because in my job Ill forget about my phone while working and pick it hours later. yesterday my phone went 2hrs before it dropped from 100% to 99%.
the only problem I find with having mobile data off when screen is off (llama) personally is that I use GV as my text app. and if my mobile data is off, then I won't know that I've received any text.
When in the office, i do not have wifi, so I rely on my data connections for texts. Is there a condition where when the screen is off for 1 minute, then mobile data will be turned off and turn on again every 10 minutes or so (like juice defender) to help me check if i received any text?
Is there any way to permanently disable 4G functionality, by removing a lib or apk or some other method?
I'm using an Epic on Boost so 4G isn't an option, but I have still noticed that occasionally my phone will switch to 4G. When that happens I lose data and none of my background syncing works...
EDIT: Probably should have mentioned, I'm running The People's ROM v2.2.1.
Not 100% sure about this so I would wait for someone more experienced to give you another answer. But if you want, make a backup of your rom now and then use titanium backup and uninstall every app with "wimax" in its name. I do believe all the wimax stuff is 4G related. I could be wrong tho.
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Did you disable the Sprint Optimizer? Settings> wireless and networks> mobile networks> automatic connections.
If that don't stop it remove easysmart.apk from system on phone.
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mbellot said:
Is there any way to permanently disable 4G functionality, by removing a lib or apk or some other method?
I'm using an Epic on Boost so 4G isn't an option, but I have still noticed that occasionally my phone will switch to 4G. When that happens I lose data and none of my background syncing works...
EDIT: Probably should have mentioned, I'm running The People's ROM v2.2.1.
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No 4G on boost?! Is that because you're not using a dummy phone with a wimax radio? I thought as long as I take the ESN from a wimax enabled phone, I'll be able to use the wimax feature. Am I wrong about this? How did you get your phone Epic 4G onto the Boost Network, mbellot?
DroidJer said:
No 4G on boost?! Is that because you're not using a dummy phone with a wimax radio? I thought as long as I take the ESN from a wimax enabled phone, I'll be able to use the wimax feature. Am I wrong about this? How did you get your phone Epic 4G onto the Boost Network, mbellot?
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My (minimal) understanding on the subject is:
1. The donor would need to be a wiimax device
2. In addition to the ESN you would need to also "move" the donor's wiimax MAC address on your Epic since that is what gets "activated" for 4G service.
I have seen topics on #2 floating around, some even on using an alternate wiimax service (FreedomPop, etc) by using the MAC address from a device on that service since they all technically go through Clear towers.
I've never felt the need to pursue wiimax, I'm on WiFi 90% of the time and the rest of the time I've learned to live with 3G.
To your last question (how I got the Epic on Boost), there is a very long thread in the development section here.
FWIW - I solved my problem by moving from TPR to CM11, WiiMax is disabled in the kernel so I don't have to worry about it ever turning on.
I'm currently using my EVO 4G as a WiFi only pda, no cellular service hooked up to it.
Currently running Unofficial AOKP 4.2.2, and everything works great. To prevent battery drain while the phone is searching for a cellular signal that it's never going to use, I've got it in airplane mode, and don't plan on taking it off.
Is there a way to remove the airplane icon from notification bar, since it's always going to be there and I don't need to see it?
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I'm currently using my EVO 4G as a WiFi only pda, no cellular service hooked up to it.
Currently running Unofficial AOKP 4.2.2, and everything works great. To prevent battery drain while the phone is searching for a cellular signal that it's never going to use, I've got it in airplane mode, and don't plan on taking it off.
Is there a way to remove the airplane icon from notification bar, since it's always going to be there and I don't need to see it?
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Some custom roms have the option to hide icons but I can't remember if that is an option in aokp. I flash roms on an EVO 4g and 3d so keeping track of which does what is hard. Look in settings for status bar and you might find an option to hide the icon.
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Zxurian said:
I'm currently using my EVO 4G as a WiFi only pda, no cellular service hooked up to it.
Currently running Unofficial AOKP 4.2.2, and everything works great. To prevent battery drain while the phone is searching for a cellular signal that it's never going to use, I've got it in airplane mode, and don't plan on taking it off.
Is there a way to remove the airplane icon from notification bar, since it's always going to be there and I don't need to see it?
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Another option is juice* defender can disable the cell radio without touching wifi so you wouldn't need airplane mode on. Worth a shot at least
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Apex launcher let's you hide the notification bar, you can still swipe down to access the notifications.
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