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As far as I can work out, WP7 will not support Outlook Notes and Tasks (To-Dos) or the synchronization of Notes & Tasks.
As I understand it, synch of email, calendar & contacts will happen via your Windows Live account (Windows Live will be an Exchange server soon), which can then synch to Outlook using the Windows Live Connector, but Notes and Tasks are absent from this setup.
There will be no native Notes or Tasks apps on WP7. There will be One Note, but that's a different animal and you have to purchase the PC version to be able to see your OneNotes on your PC.
Unfortunately, for me at least, Tasks is the app I use most on my phone. Since WM5.0, Microsoft crippled Tasks by removing the ability to filter out Tasks with a future Start Date, so I moved to using Pocket Informant which provides this essential feature.
Pocket Informant will not be developed for WM7 if news I've read on the Net is correct. This may be partly due to WM7 having no Tasks database, thus forcing any developer to create their own database engine for Tasks, and in any case there would be no synch with Outlook.
If all this is true, it will prevent me from moving over to WM7. My personal and business life revolve around my task list and I'd be lost without it.
Does anyone have any more information on this, especially any that shows me to be wrong?
Don't know about tasks and notes, but you can connect to any Exchange account you want.
http://www.ahead-app.com/
vangrieg said:
http://www.ahead-app.com/
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impressive app!
clear, simple! exactly what i need
i hope other apps will be as good as this one (maybe i should start developing wp7 apps too..)
warenbe said:
impressive app!
clear, simple! exactly what i need
i hope other apps will be as good as this one (maybe i should start developing wp7 apps too..)
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yes you should
yup but i've no good idea right now
warenbe said:
yup but i've no good idea right now
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if i think of something ill let you know
That Ahead app is more like a Project manager than a simple task manager. It only seems to support priorities called "Urgent", "Later", which doesn't tie in with Outlook's three priority levels. Also it only supports a due date, but no start date. Start date is really important, as a recurring annual task to get my car MOTed should have a start date of a couple of weeks before its due, so it doesn't appear in my task list all year round. It also needs to support lots of different types of recurrance - yearly, monthly, every weekday, every 2nd Friday of the month etc etc.
Also, Ahead App doesn't do Notes or synch them.
Whilst I appreciate the link, I'm afraid it's not what I'm looking for. All I need is an app that replicates all the functionality of Outlook's Tasks and Notes and synchs them.
I can't believe this functionality, which is present by default in every version of Windows Mobile, will be absent from WP7.
I'm going to keep my fingers crossed these two essentials appear in the final release of WP7, otherwise I'll have to stick with WM6.5 and Pocket Informant until they finally do appear, whenever that may be.
Jim Coleman said:
Whilst I appreciate the link, I'm afraid it's not what I'm looking for.
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Yes, I know. These tasks also won't be synced with Exchange and can't trigger alerts on the phone, so that's not what I need either.
This is very unfortunate, but neither the iPhone nor Android have tasks, so it looks like a trend these days.
tell me if i'm wrong, but with wp7 we will not be able to create an app wich can copy tasks from outlook?
if yes, we have to create a service wich send tasks on internet and then retrieve them on the phone...
Yes, that's right, you will need to install a connector on your desktop to sync tasks with Outlook or have an intermediary server to sync with Exchange for now.
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This is very unfortunate, but neither the iPhone nor Android have tasks, so it looks like a trend these days.
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Google have started to integrate Tasks into Google Calendar, but thus far it is extremely basic and again doesn't incorporate Start Dates. But I think the direction Google is moving in is to incorporate Tasks into Android and use Exchange Synch.
Notes is another issue though.
IPhone is.......well, let's just skip over that one.
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Google have started to integrate Tasks into Google Calendar
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Actually, Microsoft has done that already on Live Calendar, so maybe that's the direction they'll go with WP7, too. When I asked the Office guy directly about Tasks he said "can't comment at this time".
The Answer to Outlook Tasks and Notes
The Answer to Outlook Tasks and Notes
is
1)wait for WP7 Windows Phone 7 to get up to speed
2) WM6.5 Windows Mobile 6.5
run it on as fast a processor as possible (like maybe the HD2)
(no keyboard but you can get used to it)
with as big a display as possible, again the HD2 (same pixels as the tilt2 but more room)
the latest manila / sense, 2.5 ish is now nice and the vendors are supporting the download
co0kies home today v2 is looking very nice, tasks on the home screen.
we who use Outlook for calendar, contacts, notes, tasks
have a single app sync, and we want it not to go away.
maybe we can live with getting exchange accounts, but we're really hoping for a wm7 windows phone 7 activesync.
until this gets in shape . . .
we wait.
looking @ manila/sense with co0kies home today on a fast cpu with a big display,
we're not waiting in that much pain . . .
After almost 17 years on AT&T I moved to T-Mobile
I just got so tired of AT&T lagging on the vendor relationships with HTC and Microsoft.
I upgraded the TILT2 to the latest rom so that I could Finally get tasks on the home page
(I am a long time a complete Outlook user, Requiring Notes, Task, Calendar, Contacts, with a single simple complete sync to the phone).
Co0kies Home Today 2 is marvelous!
The rom started crashing every few hours
CHT put manilla/sense over the memory edge.
it too 45 seconds for manilla to return from sending an sms.
AT&T has no solution.
The HD2 has no keyboard (something i was very worried about)
I dove in.
WHAT A CHAMP this HD2 is.
clock Twice the speed of the Tilt2
tons more memory
a screen of a size fitting the number of pixels available
and after a few days, guess what . . . i am over my keyboard phobia ! ! !
phone number xfer in just a few of hours.
knock on wood, nice transition so far!
only irritating thing is tmomail.net
seems too eager to convert to MMSs, just because they're over 160 bytes.
(small point, that)
Got this yesterday after the T-Mob udapte. Its in Settings/Accounts & Sync. I cant find any widget or program for this 'MyPhonebook'. How do you use it?
I also wanna know, tried to do anything wit it yesterday but nothing works no idea what's it for
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Found it. T-Mobile has a free service that automatically backs up all contacts to a website - where they can be recovered if phone is lost or stolen.
Edit: Tried to activate it on T-mobile website... but HTC Desire is not on the list available for this service. Will it be activated in future... will ask next time I call customer service... :/
So I just rang up T-Mobile about this - typically useless response saying "we don't support this" and "you'll need to contact HTC". Now I could be wrong here, but isn't this T-Mobile functionality that they rolled out to us in their last update? Maybe this will work on Froyo?
Anyone have anymore info on this before I send T-Mobile a rude email?
...anyone know if this will be working soon? Thanks
I'd like to know how to get rid of this. I am so sick of the way this phone handles contact management.
These are the files you have to remove I think.
[MyPhonebook]
/system/app/SyncMLClient.apk
/system/app/SyncMLClient.odex
[SyncMLProvider]
/system/app/SyncMLProvider.apk
/system/app/SyncMLProvider.odex
[com.android.syncml.service]
/system/app/SyncMLService.apk
/system/app/SyncMLService.odex
[com.android.syncml.shared]
/system/framework/com.android.syncml.shared.jar
/system/framework/com.android.syncml.shared.odex
[permissions file]
/system/etc/permissions/com.android.syncml.shared.xml
Hi,
I'm using T-Mobile but unfortunately on my non-branded HTC Desire Z the Software is not installed. Does anyone have an APK for this App?
Or can anyone recommend a sync/backup tool to save contacs (important: I'm using the field "second name" and some sync-tools don't copy this field)
Greetings
Heiko
What is wrong with the std. sync of all your google contacts? Have worked flawlessly for me since day 1, and every time i try out a new rom they are downloaded as soon as i enter my google account..
There is nothing wrong with Google-Sync, but maybe call me paranoid, but I don't want to have my contacts (including their mail-adresses) stored by Google.
It is known that GoogleMail scans the Mails to show ads.
I don't want Google to scan my Adress-Book for Mail-Adressens of my friends. Sure, they state they won't do it, but you can't be sure......
Using a phone-provider like T-Mobile is also risky, but I trust them more than Google concerning data-privacy.
Heiko
Hey HHLieber, I extracted/deodexed the apks of MyPhonebook from my T-Mob branded stock (Desire) for v2.1 and v2.2.1 (both tested with MoDaCo ROM r8/r9).
Could not say if syncing is possible, because I'm using Vodafone. If you want these apks, let me know it.
Another idea with syncing is an own funambol (SyncML) server (also tested - SyncML stores a complete vcard in database).
But if you use a "Desire Z" with Stock ROM, are you able to store more information than first name and family name? Because I've never seen a HTC Stock ROM with this possibility (contact type "Phone" - HTC Desire/HD/S, HTC Wildfire/S). Also I couldn't set a type of mail address like "private" or "work".
Hi cxp_,
I just checked my Contact-List and you are correct:
The Name is listed as Surname, Firstname Secondname.
But if I click on edit, I don't see the field for secondname nor can I edit the name as it is stated on the edit-view as Firstname Surname.
Strange....
I achieved this construct by uploading the contacts from Outlook to my Google-Account, then exported it as VCF-File and imported it to my Desire.
It was a great battle, but I have to use the Second-Name-Field.
Can you copy me the APK-File?
We tried it yesterday using MyPhoneExplorer. A Collegue has a T-Mobile-branded Desire, downloaded the APK via MyPhoneExplorer and copied me the file. Unfortunately something went wrong since I cant install it on my phone - nor can't another collegue using an unbranded Desire
CU
Heiko
Thats the problem of HTC. They disabled some usefull contact information fields in their framework. I don't know why, but it is totally stupid. I have the same problems, storing all contact information in one contact type (without using "google"). Syncing with funambol or even vcard export/import will not bring back all contact information. For a smartphone, very disappointing.
I talked to htc support in germany, first answer was a standard reply from faq or so that it is possible, second answer from an engineer was "ok, your're right...not possible but i forward this idea, perhaps an update will fix that".
So, even the new devices from htc have this "bug/problem with phone contacts". Some weeks ago, I flashed a No-Sense Rom (originally from nexus one) to my desire with the result, that all fields were available. So, it must be a restriction of htc.
Your problem with branded rom was, that the apk files (used for MyPhonebook) are deodexed. So you have not only the apk file, but also a .dex file. To transfer it to another phone, you have to merge them with the use of some tools an the framework files. And also you need some other files.
I attached MyPhonebook for Android 2.1 (Eclair) and 2.2.1 (Froyo). (Structure from root directory)
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Sebastian
Gosh! You're right.
Just checked it with a collegues phone: Samsung Something.
He has second name and so on.....
Hmm.... Can't you disable HTC Sense? On Windows Phone, Sense was just an add-on. I'm not so amused concerning the idea of re-flashing my phone.
Heiko
Without HTC Sense, you can't use any of htc apps (contact, calendar, messages..etc.). It is possible to remove Sense, but you will need the standard android apps.
The "No-Sense" version of MoDaCo comes with the standard apps and default framework. In "Sense" version you could also include standard apps beside htc apps, but this wouldn't help. In my opinion, the modified framework is major problem. Even with default android apps, I got the restricted version of contact.
So, I think without reflashing your phone, you wouldn't be able to add more information to your contacts. Funambol syncing and MyPhonebook are no solutions for you.
In my case, I only needed the detailed mail information and with MyPhonebook I can do this. But also syncing is a problem for me (Funambol).
I think, it's a problem of using vcard v2.1 for export/import and sync. Tested it with one contact (containing all possible information), only ~75% was restored.
Shame on HTC, In my case I'm not sure. Living with that disadvantage or selling phone and buy a LG or Samsung (rootable). Or a second trouble when buying new phone in the future and transfer contacts (with losing information)
Face it, with every new phone, you have to adapt to the functions of the new phone.
I used Windows Phone for many years, beginning with a non-touch-phone and then moving onward using Windows Phone 6.1 and later 6.5, always with HTC-Devices.
Windows Phone 7 is no alternative for me, since it looks like a blame copy of iPhone OS (only MS-Approved Apps, no access to the file-system, use of Zune....).
Since the App-Support for WM6.5 is vanishing, I had to change.
Android looked like a good alternative. And HTC-Devices weren't a bad idea either in the past.
Maybe you are right and the next phone won't be from HTC.....
You're right. HTC devices aren't bad and the update periods are quicker than from other manufacturer.
For you, reflashing with No-Sense Rom is an idea and the flashing process is not a big deal.
I consider about "living with the fact of sync problems", "reflashing with no-sense rom and the lost of nice sense apps" or "sell old one and buy something new".
Since my phone is up and running, I guess I will live with the crippled contact-fields.
Another Idea: Am I right that Android uses several Contact-Databases which are somehow merged? Thus would it be possible to create a new contact-database with the wanted field and then merge this new DB with the already existing contact-list?
P.S. I tried to copy your Phonebook-Files to my phone but had no success. Do I have to root it bevore copying the files?
No that's not right and wouldn't be usefull. (but thats not the problem)
Android uses one SQLite database called contacts2.db (before v2.1 - filename was contacts.db). In this database all information is stored, like contacts and call history. It is located in /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases.
The database contains one table called "settings". In it, there are all contact types your phone have (like phone,google,myphonebook,facebook etc.). Contacts are stored in another table with the hint of one of these contact types.
(table "settings" | columns: "account_name", "account_type", "ungrouped_visible", "sould_sync")
I tried to create and export a filled database from android emulator. Like it seems, there is no difference between emulator database and my database from desire.
So, the database structure was not changed by htc, only the api or something else what establish the conntection between database and gui (contacts app). One idea would be to exchange databases and look what stored information htc app display (all stored information including second name and so on or only self-editable fields).
to myphonebook: You have to use "ADB Shell" from android sdk to push them (no install from sd card or so). In fact of this, /system partition have to be writeable. The xml and jar file are also required.
Can't tell you, if it is possible to remount /system writeable with adb shell without rooting the device. (had done this after rooting process and included it in a rom)
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So, the database structure was not changed by htc, only the api or something else what establish the conntection between database and gui (contacts app). One idea would be to exchange databases and look what stored information htc app display (all stored information including second name and so on or only self-editable fields).
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If the DB wasn't changed/touched by HTC, then it must be the Contact-App, which only uses some Data-Fields of the Contact-DB.
Then it should be possible to use some other Contact-App, don't you think?
One point remains: Do other Apps (Phone, SMS, Facebook....) have native access to the DB or do they use the Contact-App?
After using WM for 5 years, i realize that i do use Notes very much for all sorts of reasons.
Now that i'm using the Desire, what do you guys use to replace Notes from WM? I've searched the Market and found several types. Any recommendations?
Just to ask....any way to sync this "Notes" from Desire to Office Outlook 2007?
I used Color Note for a while. It was good, it also has a widget to put on your home screen. But recently a HTC widget Notes was released which is more than enough for me. Although it has 2 little annoying thins:
1. the widget takes up one whole home screen
2. you can't edit an already written note
But I use it nonetheless It lets you draw (just like WM Notes did) although the space is quite small. Color note does not have this function.
As for the second question - I don't know about syncing your notes, I don't use Outlook.
evernote. utterly great.
Would definitely agree with Evernote, as this is just a cloud service, and can use on nearly all platforms so future proof! Sync my laptop, desktop, desire, and iPhone It's great!
Thanks for the info guys I'll give those a try and see which one best suits me
i gave up with teh whole notes syncing thing so instead of changed all my outlook notes into tasks and sync with google tasks. syncs perfectly with android calendar (google)
i use 3banana.. give it a try, its not bad
nitronotes will allow you to sync your existing outlook notes ... it's clunky but it works ...
http://groups.google.com/group/nitrodesk/web/nitronote-notes-syncing
Try Springpad: http://www.40tech.com/2010/04/20/springpad-vs-evernote-it-might-be-better/
Even though Evernote provides slightly different functionality to it (and is excellent).
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Hey guys,
Im a long time WINMO user jumping off the sinking ship to Android. Picked up a HTC Desire the other day, and am just in the process of figuring out the best way to get my personal data from my HD2 to my Desire.
When i say "personal data"... i mainly mean contacts, calendar appointments and tasks. Emails and SMS is not too important.
Ive done a little research and found that there are a few different methods, but the most popular two seem to be either to use Sprite Migrate or Google Sync.
I had read a few posts noting that by using Google Sync, it will compress/re-size any contact pictures i have assigned... and if i wish to have hi-res contact pictures... i will have to re-assign them. I have also read that there is no calendar 'tasks' app built in... so im hoping there are a few available.
So... if you are a user who has successfully (and reasonably easily) transferred from WINMO to Android... i would welcome any advice you have.
Ps: i realise there are a few threads on this topic, but i couldnt find anything on how well Sprite Migrate actually worked (stable backups/restores, contact picture issues, etc).
Thanks for your help guys.
I changed from HTC original ROM and Leedroid (at least HTC build) to cyanogenmod.
If I use the native MS Exchange support I got two issues:
1. I can't edit Birthdays of my contacts
2. Birthdays in contacts view are one day to early. They are also displayed in format like
yyyy-mm-ddTHH:MM:SS.000Z (actually the time seems to be fix: so yyyy-mm-ddT22:00:00.000Z)
In Systems settings I have set up the date format as dd.mm.yyyy as it is common here in germany.
What about users in other languages? Do you have the same issue if you work with original android code base? I had the same by using enhanced email which is build from the android source.
I can deal with number 1. Number 2 is annoying. I also use TouchDown, but it doesn't integrate with native calendar or publishes an API to access the calendar data. So that's why I would also use a native solution.
Had someone here to deal with the problem above and found a solution?
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I also changed my timezone to see if it has an effect, but it changes nothing. Maybe the date just can't be processed.
Mac.uni said:
I changed from HTC original ROM and Leedroid (at least HTC build) to cyanogenmod.
If I use the native MS Exchange support I got two issues:
1. I can't edit Birthdays of my contacts
2. Birthdays in contacts view are one day to early. They are also displayed in format like
yyyy-mm-ddTHH:MM:SS.000Z (actually the time seems to be fix: so yyyy-mm-ddT22:00:00.000Z)
In Systems settings I have set up the date format as dd.mm.yyyy as it is common here in germany.
What about users in other languages? Do you have the same issue if you work with original android code base? I had the same by using enhanced email which is build from the android source.
I can deal with number 1. Number 2 is annoying. I also use TouchDown, but it doesn't integrate with native calendar or publishes an API to access the calendar data. So that's why I would also use a native solution.
Had someone here to deal with the problem above and found a solution?
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I also changed my timezone to see if it has an effect, but it changes nothing. Maybe the date just can't be processed.
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I have got exactly the same problem and am trying to find a resolution for it.
However, so far, no luck.
I have the same problem with all my HTC devices (Desire, Wildfire, Sensation). I also sent e-mail to HTC support and got this answer:
As far as I can see this is happening on the android devices.
I would say that the only solution to this would be using third party application for the exchange mail.
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Any news regarding this issue? I am suffering also (Motorola Defy).
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I have the same problem (SONY ERICSSON XPERIA PRO).
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