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[Q] Which ROM would you recommend

Hey, hope there aren't a lot of threads with the same question but i didn't find one.
I will root my Desire the next days and then want to update to a custom rom.
There are some things i really need:
1. A2SD (that i can store any apps on the SD card)
2. Stable (NO bugs)
3. Sense (maybe normal sense, but might be also a port from the desire HD/Z)
4. Fast-Browser WITH Flash
5. (not so important) a Rom which is not overloaded and themed, i like the way sense looks, with all it's fonts and pictures.
Would ne great if someone could tell my what rom he would suggest for me and my needs.
Thanks

iNsertCoin HD/Z Port 1.9.5

in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?

JonnyZaggi said:
in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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One more voice for "iNsertCoin HD/Z Port". I am still using older version "1.8f".. No FCs, very nice and smooth. No lags for me.

Cool sense Cool Z v6 (i can't get V7 to work properly(its still in beta))
The HD roms from my pov, the fonts too small for my old eyes

JonnyZaggi said:
Hey, hope there aren't a lot of threads with the same question but i didn't find one.
I will root my Desire the next days and then want to update to a custom rom.
There are some things i really need:
1. A2SD (that i can store any apps on the SD card)
2. Stable (NO bugs)
3. Sense (maybe normal sense, but might be also a port from the desire HD/Z)
4. Fast-Browser WITH Flash
5. (not so important) a Rom which is not overloaded and themed, i like the way sense looks, with all it's fonts and pictures.
Would ne great if someone could tell my what rom he would suggest for me and my needs.
Thanks
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I have been using the REMIxHD and it all seems to work very well, very fluid lag free flash works standard browser so might give dolphin ago. But then again when I got the LG GT540 on 2.1 thought it was good at the time.

I am using standard leedroid 2.3d. Working great for me and fits into your criteria.

JonnyZaggi said:
in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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The phone runs an older verison of the ROM in the video, which was laggy. EQ does not work, desire lacks of hardware.
I think you should go with a 2.2 Froyo ROM such as LeeDroid and not the HD/Z ports or Gingerbread.

I used to have RCMIXHD 3.0 A2SD and had a great experience with it. Surprisingly fast.
If Sense is not a priority for you, I'd recommend Oxygen or MIUI XJ, way smoother than any Sense HD port.

I used to love sense too. Sense is lovely.
These days though I realise that it's just eye candy - free yourself and get rid of it.
Go for Redux 1.0.2 (Gingerbread) which is the fastest smoothest ROM I've used (and I've used a lot).
Launcherpro has some god damn accurate Sense style widgets built in, and you can easily mod its dock to look the same as the sense dock, so you can have the sense look and feel, whilst still being able to use all the free space that sense usually takes up
This is what I'm currently running and I'm really happy with it.

free yourself and get rid of it.
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I had a HTC hero before and used Android without sense, but the audio player for example sucks ...
i think i will stick to froyo and sense until the official gingerbread+sense comes out and someone has rooted it and created a custom rom.
Or is there anything in gingerbread that ist better than in froyo?
The phone runs an older verison of the ROM in the video, which was laggy. EQ does not work, desire lacks of hardware.
I think you should go with a 2.2 Froyo ROM such as LeeDroid and not the HD/Z ports or Gingerbread.
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Actually i think LeeDroid is overloaded. The pictures i've seen are full with custom logos, fonts, etc, etc.
I Just want the original sense/sense HD style.
What ROM would you recommend? What about the Rooted Stock Roms?
And another question: Does slowing down the CPU when screen ist of (what is possible in some ROM's) really help for more battery life? I'm not really convinced and afraid of destroying anything on my loved HTC Desire..

JonnyZaggi said:
Actually i think LeeDroid is overloaded. The pictures i've seen are full with custom logos, fonts, etc, etc.
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There is nothing like that in LeeDroid. i think you are getting a wallpaper
confused with the os. or maybe you saw a boot animation and got it
confused either way it is "stock" sense with tweaks and it runs very
nicely. I swear by it anyway and put it on all my friends desires.
I went to HD roms but they either start running slow or take
too long to open things like the music player, this all bugged me so i
ditched it. I got the feeling that it wasnt designed for this hardware.
It might be good by now but who knows.
With leedroid i set the cpu scaling to "smartass" so it dips when nothing
is happening or the screens off and rises back to the top when in use.
"ondemand" does the same i believe but each governor has its advantages.
This all helps battery life but i cant say how much because ive been
running it for so long i dont notice.
Leedroid also has an intergrated fix for the charge issue with sense roms where
the battery is never at 100% when you take it off charge.

Try StarBurst lite is what you are looking for,
its Stock Sense with simple D2Ext. Kernel is LeeDroid 2.3 from snq - major Battery saver.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417
or try dsixda's Kitchen and cook your own Stock ROM with A2SD and just flash snq's Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11740447#post11740447

Im using coolexe hd version 7,got a2sd sending apps to memory card. Batterys good,pretty much the same,but this is dependant on the amount of apps and things you get id say, The hd sense is much better in my opinion,more customization. Htc.com onboard but only some things work,lovely rom though id take that one a go,insertcoins good also,ive tried aurax also.all good.try them all mate,once you know the score test as many as u want!

A simple, stable gingerbread would be Oxygen 2.0.1.
A feature rich, fully customiseable alternative is the Cyanogen ROM (link in signature).
Choose whatever suits your needs.

I found this topic that is what I want to know. I hope it is not wrong to revive this thread.
I would like to root my Desire soon and update it to a custom rom.
There are some things i need:
1. Stable (NO MAJOR bugs -calls, sms, wi-fi, camera and basic functions should be working with no problems)
2. Android 2.3.4 or 2.3.5
3. A2SD (so i can store any apps on the SD card)
Would like to have, but not a must: Only if it works without laggs and buggs.
4. Sense 3.0 or 3.5 (for example like one from the desire HD)
I have htc Desire with official 2.3.3 Android (that I instaled from htc website) and is not rooted yet. I want to root and instal one of the newest android on my phone.
Therefore I would ask for some help, to help me choose the right one for me. I'm considering one of those:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Would be great if someone could tell me which rom would you suggest for me. One of those 3 or perhaps one I misslooked.
I'm sorry for my spelling mistakes...
I'm grateful for any help or suggestion I might get.

Just installed Runnymede AIO V4.0 Special Edition, runs really smooth.

Before i switched to CM7, i used Insert coin and it was really really fast and was stable only reason i switched to CM7 was due to better themes and more settings

This is all really helpful, thanks so much to all you guys for doing this!!
My quick question on this, any of the roms that pretty much emulate a standard experience, e.g. the Starburst, plus app2sd functionality, any of these also support ad hoc wifi?
I believe there are ways of custom installing it, though are there (simple) roms out there which include it already?

Vinneeh said:
Just installed Runnymede AIO V4.0 Special Edition, runs really smooth.
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Me too i have flashed older version of the Runnymede AIO and i am very satisfied ,its stable ,fast ,no laggy ,with htc sense and a lot of updates .The best for me from rom with sense .

Rom for everyday use

It's been a while where ppl always compare the best desire rom out there... let's discuss what rom u guys recommended for everyday use... I'm currently using Oxygen rom, fast stable and hell lot of spaces, and since i'm starting to use 3G, i gonna switch to sense rom, needed sense widget and stuff, might get insertcoin rom... what about u guys?

I'm currently using InsertCoin Sense 2.1/3.0 1.1.4 and although it is great to look at, I perhaps wouldn't recommend it for everyday use as in the new version I have been experiencing some lag and unfortunately (and probably most importantly) it hasn't been too great with battery life.. although I haven't used SetCPU to try and improve it.
I would almost be tempted to go for a FROYO based ROM, but I think what you'll have to do is test a few and see how they perform for you.

I'm running InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well and I'm having a blast. It does lag every now and then, but my battery life's brilliant - I usually have about 30% left when I go to bed. I'm probably not the heaviest user on the planet, though.
I'm using SetCPU though, so that might be why. It's set to 499-1190 (smartassV2) with a Screen Off rule for 245-460. Seems to do the trick.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Use this one, yesterday coolexe did fabulous update.. EVERYTHING is working perfectly, including camera and flash.
It's Sense 3.0 ROM (not 2.1 + 3.0) and its just fast as 2.1, i was shocked when tried it for a first time.
TBH it's atm. best Sense 3 ROM in Desire section, and i tried all of them.

I'm using stock HBOOT InsertCoin 1.1.4, working well for me.

I'm using my own Rom with custom hboot
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

k3lcior said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Use this one, yesterday coolexe did fabulous update.. EVERYTHING is working perfectly, including camera and flash.
It's Sense 3.0 ROM (not 2.1 + 3.0) and its just fast as 2.1, i was shocked when tried it for a first time.
TBH it's atm. best Sense 3 ROM in Desire section, and i tried all of them.
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gotta agree, it's really nice and smooth rom. check it out. but insert coin is ok also

Can highly recommend oxygen.
TouchPaled from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

I've been experimenting with ROMs for a few months now. Here is what I've found:
1) The most stable, light, low power ROM that I've used is MIUI. It has everything you need out of the box.
2) If you don't like the MIUI interface (read: like an iPhone and Android combined), the next best is Redux 1.2. Very low power, but very basic. It is basically a shell as I didn't like a lot of the stock components. I had to get a new launcher, dialer, contact manager and SMS app.
3) Sense-based ROMs feel nice until the battery dies... which happens way too quickly. The stock ROM was the most stable for me, I just wanted Gingerbread. All of the Sense-based ROMs that were non-stock seemed to buggy for me.
I'm a computer engineer, so I don't mind playing around with technology, but MIUI and the stock ROM were the only ones that I'd recommend to somebody less technical (or somebody that just wants the smartphone to work and not have to constantly look for fixes and / or ways to make the phone work the way it should out of the box) for daily use.

Yes I'm using that Rom too and can't fault it. It's fast for a sense 3 Rom.

Currently on MIUI 1.8.26.
Cant comment on the batt yet since i just flashed this yesterday but hell yeah, its fast.....
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

jdwright45 said:
1) The most stable, light, low power ROM that I've used is MIUI. It has everything you need out of the box.
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I have to say I disagree with almost all of that
It's based in cm7 so its one of the heaviest aosp Roms around.
To compare, miui xj, with my brutal stripping, I got down to 90MB bare bones. That's 30 MB bigger than dGB and 25MB bigger than redux in the same state.
Also imho, cm7 is heavier on battery, ergo so is miui. Redux is better power wise, although a miui custom kernel could help them there.
Out of interest what mA are you getting on 3g whilst idle?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I am currently on IC 1.1.4 with newest noncallrec kernel. Works fine whereas 1.1.4 had some freeze issues, 1.1.3 worked perfect for me. No lags, no freeze, quite fast. I am also not a heavy user hence my bat lasts almost the whole day.

I'm on Cool3D AceS v2. Nice rom, fast and stable. Was using cyanogenmod, but was missing sense

chrismast said:
I am currently on IC 1.1.4 with newest noncallrec kernel. Works fine whereas 1.1.4 had some freeze issues, 1.1.3 worked perfect for me. No lags, no freeze, quite fast. I am also not a heavy user hence my bat lasts almost the whole day.
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Would you say that v1.1.3 is as smooth as Rc mix latest release? Just thinking of shifting to IC hence these questions

jackie_jagger said:
Would you say that v1.1.3 is as smooth as Rc mix latest release? Just thinking of shifting to IC hence these questions
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sorry, cannot compare IC with Rc as I never tried Rc. IC (CM7) runs fine, fast & stable (at least 1.1.3) for me so had no need to check any other rom till now.

chrismast said:
sorry, cannot compare IC with Rc as I never tried Rc. IC (CM7) runs fine, fast & stable (at least 1.1.3) for me so had no need to check any other rom till now.
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well as long as it works well - I think its worth a try - downloading it now !
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
For me, this is currently the best Sense experience on the desire. I am using the cm7 version.

You guys should try Oxygen with Oxygen hboot r2, u'll get hell lot of spaces! I tried going to insertcoin with CM7 hboot r2, end up having 88mb after installing all my apps without installing my games, but with my Oxygen rom, i have 148mb free, with 27 games in it... and it's very very smooth...

felix1318 said:
You guys should try Oxygen with Oxygen hboot r2, u'll get hell lot of spaces! I tried going to insertcoin with CM7 hboot r2, end up having 88mb after installing all my apps without installing my games, but with my Oxygen rom, i have 148mb free, with 27 games in it... and it's very very smooth...
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Thats kind of funny. Guess you didn't see my signature when I posted earlier then. I got 40MB on Oxygen

Need advice from Desire HD users!!

I'm looking for a bit of advice, my friend just came into town to visit me with a desire hd, and I've been looking for a good stable rom for him, the phone is already s-off rooted and all that, it has a ext-4 recovery or something like that based off clockworkmod, whoever did the phone put a nosense/sense 3.0 rom on it but after I compared it to my htc hd2 running cm7 wasn't too impressed, and I know the desire hd can run a whole lot better, but after looking thru the roms found almost all roms are based of sense 3.0 or 3.5 , is there any good aosp or cm7 that any would recommend for me or any good stable sense rom that definitely is the preferred, and if anyone has any suggestions and can add what radio and ril I need for it I would appreciated. I searched and the cm7 looked like there were issues with them and ultimate droid had been discontinued, was hoping MDJ was still working in them, but I guess everyone is moving to sense.

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Be patient okay well cm7 is the best aosp Rom (stable and a lot of support)but in my opinion sense 3.5 from rcmix is THE BEST ROM
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

Android Revolution HD is a great sense ROM, there is also a de-sense flashable zip.
By the way, your comments above (however intended) won't win you any help! ! Keep that in mind.
ROM styles and features are personal taste, so best to try a few and make up your own mind. Just follow the Devs guide / OP and FAQ.
Backup apps and data with apps such as Titanium Backup (pro) and use CWM Recovery for nan-backup prior to flashing new ROMs or addons.
You may need to full wipe before flashing between ROMs (lose apps and data),.so backup first.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

There are many of us willing to help out as much as we can, but we are in different time zones, countries etc.
Have a look at some of the screenshots in my sig to help with visual ideas, plus an up-to-date list of current XDA roms with links to the XDA threads.
Personally I enjoyed CM7 for ages and now I'm really happy with MIUI or the MIUI Freshly Squeezed Edition.

If you want AOSP ROM then try Hydrogenmod once.

CM7 is ok, but imo, Miui looks better. You can replace the miui launcher with LP/ADW and you still get the miui icon backgrounds. They both are pretty smooth and stable. Miui also has a pretty good music player with lyrics and a equalizer. CM7 has a super bright torch (Its brighter than most lights...) and DSP manager. I haven't seen any issues with CM7, most of the nightlies are pretty stable, CM7 based roms such as helios and hydrogen are also stable. Sci miui, RD miui and freshly squeezed are also really stable miui roms.
Sense just looks really nice, but isnt that functional or smooth (The launcher pretty much lags when a page is filled with apps, and the appdrawer always lags). Sense just has a better camcorder (Best AOSP camcorder is LG camcorder, which can record 1080p but still has no proper touch to focus in video - It does display a focusing icon now but still doesnt seem to focus for me). ROM Cleaner [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050283] can remove most of the useless sense features.
Revolution would probably be the smoothest and most stable Sense 3.0 Rom. Leedroid is a good sense 2.1 rom (The new sense 3.0 version is somewhat glitchy). You can also try the V6 Supercharge script [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278299]

CM7 nightlies (I'm on 220 at present) have always worked very nicely for me, together with the latest radio and matching RIL. I generally have the LCD density set to around 190-200.
The only thing I missed coming from Sense was the calendar and bookmark widgets, replacements for these can be found using Android Pro Widgets on the market.
Why anyone would use Sense is a mystery to me. It's slow, bloated and battery life is horrible compared to CM7. Also beware MIUI as in my experience the battery drain on standby can be horrific - not sure if that has been sorted out in the most recent version though.

I apologize if some thought I was being out of line getting upset but sitting, watching the thread sit and the views count going up, and nobody bothering to make a suggestion was pretty upsetting. I know we are in different time zones, and I would understand if that was the case and nobody was in the forum to lend a hand, but that wasn't the case, people were taking the time to read it and move on and post to other threads, that's why I got upset.
For the people that took the time and help me out I thank you, I hope I can squeeze time today before my friend has to fly back home to do his phone and put something stable enough for his every day use.

roloracer said:
I'm looking for a bit of advice, my friend just came into town to visit me with a desire hd, and I've been looking for a good stable rom for him, the phone is already s-off rooted and all that, it has a ext-4 recovery or something like that based off clockworkmod, whoever did the phone put a nosense/sense 3.0 rom on it but after I compared it to my htc hd2 running cm7 wasn't too impressed, and I know the desire hd can run a whole lot better, but after looking thru the roms found almost all roms are based of sense 3.0 or 3.5 , is there any good aosp or cm7 that any would recommend for me or any good stable sense rom that definitely is the preferred, and if anyone has any suggestions and can add what radio and ril I need for it I would appreciated. I searched and the cm7 looked like there were issues with them and ultimate droid had been discontinued, was hoping MDJ was still working in them, but I guess everyone is moving to sense.
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If you like what all HTC can do with Sense 3.5 on Android, check out RCMix Runny 1.5 or RCMix Bliss 1.3 ROMs. Stable releases with fixes coming often for issues if any.
For a stable release with Sense 3 and latest gingerbread, check Android Revolution HD (most widely used ROM for DHD).
But, the best thing you can do is try as many ROM's as you can and use each for atleast a week. I could not stand MIUI which many like for whatever reasons they have.

Can someone tell me which ROM has the best battery life?

In my little experience i can say:
-the fastest Sense 3 Rom i've used was the Pyramid3d 1.1
-the nicest one with all the new Sense 3.5 feature, stable and smooth, is the Runny3D and i must say love Sense 3.5!
Now i'm on BlackIce,very speed and for now i've got the best battery life but i'm using it since yesterday so i must test well... Thanks to IceTool Dolby and SRS are working too .
So if you wont AOSP Rom i think BlackIce is the best one!
(Sorry for bad english!)

Good stable 2.3 rom

Im looking for a good, stable rom to use with either a2sd or a2sd+ inatalled, i got a 400mb ext3 partition and i am currently using MIUI.
Thank you.
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you're using one.

I know but i really feel like a change for a ifferent rom with different features as i have been using MIUI for quite some time now so i really feel like using something different.

aaron187 said:
Im looking for a good, stable rom to use with either a2sd or a2sd+ inatalled, i got a 400mb ext3 partition and i am currently using MIUI.
Thank you.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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There are a few you can choose from: SGBS, Runnymede AIO, just to mention a few.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Try Redux 2

You could try Tamirda's Revolution rom (sense 2.1+3.0) fast and very stable. Or maybe you want some AOSP lovin you could try MildWild oxygen based ICS themed rom. Both are awesome

The most stable, fastest 2.3 rom i've use on MY desire is GingerVillian 3.3. I know its abit old now, but I've tried the latest CM7 nightly build (262 - no more have been made in a while) both with and without custom kernels, with n without a2sd / data2sd (tried a2sdx but caused FCs from what i could tell) I have also tried ALL the sense ROMs and they just do not compare, MIUI is ALMOST as fast but not quite....
The fastest/best setup imho is as follows:
-CM7r2 hboot
-GV 3.3 (maybe remove a few apps from system as they r out of date - like youtube)
-do not use dalvik to sd, slows it down... imho
-class 6(+) sdcard with 512(mine is actually 1024) sdext (ext4) using ext4 recovery
-use villian setup to install 3.1 wifi pm_fast module
I have tried many different ways of setting up my phone with several ext partitions, or just one large one... and after a week or two of useage, im ALWAYS finding that its just NOT as fast as GV. however the sense 3.5 roms are most defiantly more beautiful! but just NOT AS FAST. I have 350+ app elements according to titianium backup pro. and it STILL doesnt slow down. I mean it boots in less than 30secs everytime!
I do personally use Go launcher EX (system perm n removed other launcher) and the Go widgets and GoSMS Pro (mms.apk still in system), however, if you have ALL the effects on go launcher enabled, you can see the difference, i suggest just picking one you like, and sticking with it, just dont use random.... however at the end of the day, the use of the Go for Android apps, does effect performance SLIGHTLY, however between that and the tmobile theme engine, I can make my phone look how i want, and still have it faster than any other rom ive tried...
thats it! its PERFECT!

mattyyey said:
The most stable, fastest 2.3 rom i've use on MY desire is GingerVillian 3.3. I know its abit old now, but I've tried the latest CM7 nightly build (262 - no more have been made in a while) both with and without custom kernels, with n without a2sd / data2sd (tried a2sdx but caused FCs from what i could tell) I have also tried ALL the sense ROMs and they just do not compare, MIUI is ALMOST as fast but not quite....
The fastest/best setup imho is as follows:
-CM7r2 hboot
-GV 3.3 (maybe remove a few apps from system as they r out of date - like youtube)
-do not use dalvik to sd, slows it down... imho
-class 6(+) sdcard with 512(mine is actually 1024) sdext (ext4) using ext4 recovery
-use villian setup to install 3.1 wifi pm_fast module
I have tried many different ways of setting up my phone with several ext partitions, or just one large one... and after a week or two of useage, im ALWAYS finding that its just NOT as fast as GV. however the sense 3.5 roms are most defiantly more beautiful! but just NOT AS FAST. I have 350+ app elements according to titianium backup pro. and it STILL doesnt slow down. I mean it boots in less than 30secs everytime!
I do personally use Go launcher EX (system perm n removed other launcher) and the Go widgets and GoSMS Pro (mms.apk still in system), however, if you have ALL the effects on go launcher enabled, you can see the difference, i suggest just picking one you like, and sticking with it, just dont use random.... however at the end of the day, the use of the Go for Android apps, does effect performance SLIGHTLY, however between that and the tmobile theme engine, I can make my phone look how i want, and still have it faster than any other rom ive tried...
thats it! its PERFECT!
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Nice answer. I'm with you 100% but I do like Sense for the Facebook integration (can upload pictures so easily as thumbnails instead of links). I'm currently trying to find the fastest Sense Rom to use with Go Launcher, which will leave me with the most amount of free ram possible...

Mattster_spv said:
Nice answer. I'm with you 100% but I do like Sense for the Facebook integration (can upload pictures so easily as thumbnails instead of links). I'm currently trying to find the fastest Sense Rom to use with Go Launcher, which will leave me with the most amount of free ram possible...
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I agree the Facebook / Twitter intergration is awesome in Sense, if i could get the Sense contacts n dialler on aosp, I'd deffo do that! but I got round this problem by exporting my FB m8s via a CSV card and then imported into google contacts... Then using syncmypix I have everyone setup correctly. Effort I know but it works! If you do this, the FB app syncs / links nicely.
I have never suggested using an alternative launcher on sense (with the exception of if you dont have root and i dont think the user is smart enough to root it safely) as while it does give more free RAM, you miss the best parts of sense; THE WIDGETS!
The Sense framework will ALWAYS be running in the background taking up some RAM, so you might as well use it... imho anyways...

I really like the runnymede AIO V4.0 Special edition! If you want something smooth and different, try that one

[Q] Best ROM for Desire Z for BEST RAM PERFORMANCE

Hello. I need help regarding the best ROM for my Desire Z. I need either sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 and need the best possible ram as i have already installed 4 ROMs and i have had problems with lags in messages and the lag in circle ring lock. overall homescreens as smooth but i need ram for reading msgs fast and applications launch quickly like on my default sense 2.1. i have tried runnydroid which is probably the fastest in homescreen scrolling but very weak in ram and opening apps. currently running desire HD rom with sense 3.0 v1.3 which is slightly better but i need something better in terms of RAM and with sense 3.0 or 3.5
help would be really appreciated
thanks

first of all, let's clear things out... sense 3.x was never meant to run on our desire z, i say HTC made a mistake when they released an official 3.x update
second, sense 3.x needs LOTS of ram to work. So, you don't have enough ram to run apps, solution? try the v6 supercharger script, set it as multitasking settings...
want more? make a SWAP partition on your sdcard, SWAP makes a part of your sdcard to work as ram...
want even more, you can bulletproof you messages app in order not to automatically kill it when in need of ram
i'll give you links if you want
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Riro Zizo; I'll take you up on that offer of links please!

Stick with AOSP.
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v6 supercharger script & guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SWAP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Bulletproof apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
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First of all thanks for your kind replies. Riro Zizo thanks alot for these links. Can you tell me which ROM what work the best with these? the thing is that there must be a ROM which would be better in RAM performance. like my desire HD rom was better than runnydroid at least it was usable. now what do u mean by official sense 3.0 update? my last update was android 2.3.3 with 2.1 sense which is why i installed custom roms to get newer sense. thanks a lot
and blackknightavalon what do u mean by AOSP?
thanks a lot
oh one more thing. ive heard that with swap the sdcard gets a lower life and it dies quickly after a while

Android open source project. Like CyanogenMod, for example.
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)

fingertrouble said:
Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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I agree... Sense-less ROMs are the best ones and they run the smoothest on Desire Z. I first took on CM7 and then moved to Bulletproof's MIUI which stopped me from selling my phone. However, even then the phone started to lag after a months use. Next step was to move to Elitemod244 which is basically based on CM7 but supercharged and ultra-fast. This stopped me from dumping my phone to get a Galaxy Nexus.
I would recommend that you try Elitemod244 (or the latest version if you want) and then modify it to your liking. It will take some time, but at least your phone will be fast and would work as it should instead of hanging or reloading the launcher time n time again.

thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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In that case i would go for Virtuous Sense, doesn't have to much bullsht in it..
And for the lost messages, there is standard an app installed in these roms that collects all your messages.
Btw.. I'm surfing xda for 2 years now daily, and today is the first time i made an account Really EVERYTHING about everything has been asked before i came here, so there was no need for it.
Just wanted to say this...

you can try any sense rom you want without any issues if you do all these tweaks i told you about... launcher reloads can be solved by making a file called "local.prop" in /data/ (if you already have the file, edit it) and put this inside it
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
and reboot... this WILL solve your problem, GUARANTEED

Why do you need Sense that bad? We're trying to get rid of it over on the MT4GS boards.

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.

kierren said:
Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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bulletproofing apps means preventing it from getting killed... you were right
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Blackout incredible has Sense 3.6 And when I apply the v6Supercharger it works pretty fine. But remember that you need to Format your SD card before you install it. It gives you extra performance. atleast it happened to me.

I fully understand why you might want a SENSE rom.
I have tried many roms since my DZ is out of warranty, the Mimicry one was nearly the best, except it had bad performances after some weeks of usage.
And this AOSP was a android 4 rom with nice custom features, but there was a LOT i missed from SENSE. Let's just talk about the weather/clock widget, the audio player, the FM radio app, the nice interface, the perfect virtual keyboard...
Sense really offers the best user experience on that phone.
A few days ago I finally the perfect rom, you should try it: TrickDroid 4.0.0
As told in the corresponding topic on xda, you just absolutely need to enable swap because it's a full Sense 4.
And if you want some specific tweaks from AOSP, of you want to remove some things from Sense, the TrickDroid Tweaks allows you to simply do that.
TrickDroid on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981059