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[Q] G2 Gaming - HD games

I just got a G2 leaving behind a G1 which had zero gaming capability at all. I'm looking for some cool HD games. I tried Gameloft but it keeps saying that nothing is compatible with my Desire Z. Anybody help please!

im playing nfs: shift, psx4droid, exzeus, blow up, etc
running perfect

Fruit Ninja, Mini Squadron, and Angry Birds are good games and the first two support Open Feint which is a friends list and achievement system similar to xbox live that supports multiplayer across Android and iOS
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Ive been running Quake 3 and Quake 1 on it, both work very well:
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jmundo said:
Ive been running Quake 3 and Quake 1 on it, both work very well:
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Isn't that Quake 2?

JRG1392 said:
I just got a G2 leaving behind a G1 which had zero gaming capability at all. I'm looking for some cool HD games. I tried Gameloft but it keeps saying that nothing is compatible with my Desire Z. Anybody help please!
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Homerun 3D plays ridiculously awesome

Are you shore your phone did not get mixed up with a desire z intead of you getting a g2 check your internal memory if you have like 1.7 gig or less your order got mixed up with european version. You suppost to have 4 gig or less of internal memory on your g2. As you said this game is not compatible with your desire z.
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rhonal89 said:
Are you shore your phone did not get mixed up with a desire z intead of you getting a g2 check your internal memory if you have like 1.7 gig or less your order got mixed up with european version. You suppost to have 4 gig or less of internal memory on your g2. As you said this game is not compatible with your desire z.
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I have 1.7GB free...what's that mean for me? I thought the other 3ish gigs were system reserved? What should I do?
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daijoubu said:
Isn't that Quake 2?
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The first game is quake 3 the second is quake 1

Do these games work well on the G2?

Hey guys, just getting myself acquainted to the G2 before I actually get my hands on it. (should be arriving in 4.5 hours.) I am coming from the LG Optimus T and as you guys probably know it can't really do a spectacular amount of things when it comes down to 3D games. Anywho, my question for you guys this morning is... What games (rpg, fps, etc.) do you guys play on the G2 and how well do they work? I would love to play something like Dungeon Defender, Dungeon Hunter 2, or even N.O.V.A. 2, is that a possibility?

The G2, while underclocked at 800 mhz, has a second-generation Qualcomm processor, meaning it can out-preform phones with a 1ghz first-generation Qualcomm (i.e. Nexus One). I've used an Optimus T as well, and the difference between it and the G2 is incredible. I don't think you'll have a problem -- my G2 has run every game I've thrown at it without the slightest hint of lag. It's not going to have as much power as a phone sporting a Nvidia or dual-core processor, but I haven't run into any problems whatsoever.

if games do give you any trouble at all (they shouldn't, the only lag i get at all is on my n64 emulator playing megaman64) just download chainfire3d from the market, it requires root tho, but it lets you mess with the textures and increase framerate, its pretty cool. honestly there are no games made currently that cant be handled by our phone.

Every game I've tryed runs perfectly. It has the most powerful GPU (behind the galaxy s by a little bit) of any single core phone, and is 4x faster than the adreno 200 in the nexus one, which is usually the development phone for games. You shouldn't have any problems with any gameloft games for the time being, but you can always OC to 1.9Ghz should games decide to demand more (^o^).
The only games that our phone can't run are specific tegra-2 optimized games. This is because they only support dualcore, but it is an android rather than a g2 problem. By the time Ice Cream Sandwhich comes along, tegra2 games should run on our phone.

Any Gameloft game you use on the G2 will run really well except for one big problem.. usually after the second or third time you play one of those games, the load times increase dramatically. To the point where it's not even worth trying to play anymore.

Eric, that doesn't happen to me. Honestly OP, if you want a device for gaming, this iis the one to get.
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@ericc...User ERROR. Definitely not normal.
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[Q] Lag and Game Support

Hi Guys,
I am planning to buy this phone in the coming months.
Couple of questions:
1. Is there any lag that you have experienced after installing a lot of apps because of the limited 512MB RAM? And my friend bought this device but it shows a total of only 384MB RAM, why is that?
2. How is the game performance of the Adreno 205 on this device. Does it support most of the games with good performance?
Asking these questions because i come from using Samsung Galaxy 3 (no GPU and 256MB RAM) and these were the two main problem areas for me. Do not want to repeat the same .

If I Remeber Correctly it has the same CPU\GPU as the Desire S\HD and they play the games pretty well. and regardless of the phone you WILL get lag when tons of crap is installed even if it's the ONE X or the S3. And it shows 384mb of ram because the rest is allocated to Android System. hope this has helped you

games in the category of shadowgun runs fine
nova3 and higher doesnt works
and for the ram issue u alrdy have got an answer
go for the phone i garantee ul nt repent

Games are running fine on this tiny phone . Well, not those beasts games that needs 1gb ram or Nvidia gpu's (if any) but the decent and good games are played well on One V. Buy the phone if you don't have other option because it is a fine one!

Lloir said:
If I Remeber Correctly it has the same CPU\GPU as the Desire S\HD and they play the games pretty well. and regardless of the phone you WILL get lag when tons of crap is installed even if it's the ONE X or the S3. And it shows 384mb of ram because the rest is allocated to Android System. hope this has helped you
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Thanks for your input .
Yup i am fully aware how Android runs apps. It's just that my current device had 130MB free storage on an average and all that gets used up with all the important apps. Even with those many apps the phone used to lag (it was OC'd to 1Ghz plus using the V6 supercharger mod). With a better phone i expect to be able to install a few more apps that i had to compromise on earlier and a few games. I was just making sure that my new phone doesn't frustrate me like my last one (it was the best mid-ranger of its time).
paarthdesai said:
games in the category of shadowgun runs fine
nova3 and higher doesnt works
and for the ram issue u alrdy have got an answer
go for the phone i garantee ul nt repent
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Thanks, will check them out (although I was not aware of these games before). My question though was more on the lines of compatibility. Because currently 90% of the games I browse show that they are incompatible with my device . I know the GPU is only a modest one and wont be able to run those FPS genre games very well. But how about those graphics heavy puzzle and arcade games (like Temple Run, World of Goo and Jelly Defense).
1ceb0x said:
Games are running fine on this tiny phone . Well, not those beasts games that needs 1gb ram or Nvidia gpu's (if any) but the decent and good games are played well on One V. Buy the phone if you don't have other option because it is a fine one!
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Thanks, I was actually thinking of Galaxy Ace 2. It has a much more impressive piece of hardware. But it does not have ICS out of the box, and Samsung are pretty bad with updates (don't wanna flash a ROM port the first day I buy the phone ). Plus the plastic body has no comparison to the sleek unibody design of the One V, really awesome to hold . Sense 4 is also a convincing argument towards One V.

temple run world of goo runs absolutely without any hitch
as i said bfre it nly doesnt suport high quailty 3d games
evrythng else is just finee buy this phone and join our one v group

i just looked at the specs of the ACE 2, and to be fair those are not bad specs...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-V,Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2/phones/6850,6940
you got a hard decision

Lloir said:
i just looked at the specs of the ACE 2, and to be fair those are not bad specs...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-V,Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2/phones/6850,6940
you got a hard decision
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remember ace2 lags when playing temple run
don't know about other games
my frnd has just 1game and it lags
idk if any update of the game has stopped it
think twice before you buy ace2
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paarthdesai said:
remember ace2 lags when playing temple run
don't know about other games
my frnd has just 1game and it lags
idk if any update of the game has stopped it
think twice before you buy ace2
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Surprising to hear that since the Ace2 has a Mali-400 GPU, which is in my opinion gives much better performance than the Adreno 205. It might be asking too much but could you compare notes with your friend on performance and overall usability of the two phones?

android_murphy said:
Surprising to hear that since the Ace2 has a Mali-400 GPU, which is in my opinion gives much better performance than the Adreno 205. It might be asking too much but could you compare notes with your friend on performance and overall usability of the two phones?
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my friend isn't into gaming that much he says it a waste of time to dwnld 5mb fr a game and i don't know if many background applications were running or no
it just lagged when i played mayb coz he just loaded tooo much of apps
atlest 50apss:banghead::thumbdown:
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paarthdesai said:
my friend isn't into gaming that much he says it a waste of time to dwnld 5mb fr a game and i don't know if many background applications were running or no
it just lagged when i played mayb coz he just loaded tooo much of apps
atlest 50apss:banghead::thumbdown:
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Hehe. Thanks for your input anyway . I guess my decision will only be made when i actually step foot into the market .

@paarthdesai By the way where did your friend buy the Galaxy Ace 2 from? As far as i can see online it has not been released in India and have only seen it's official launch in the UK.

android_murphy said:
@paarthdesai By the way where did your friend buy the Galaxy Ace 2 from? As far as i can see online it has not been released in India and have only seen it's official launch in the UK.
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there is a place in mumbai knwn as alfa
u get all the grey market stuff imported from the gilf country's
and u get a full seal pack at a very low cost
however u dnt get warranty
as it is u gonna avoid tht via rooting
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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My US S3 vs S3 International in Dead Trigger? What to Expect

Hello,
First let me start off by saying this forum has to be the best thing that happened to cellphones since Java and Flash!
Anyways, what I wanted to know is I have the opportunity to upgrade to the i9300 for 150-200$ + my phone traded in, I just wanted to know if the International can handle Dead trigger with less lag? I have tegra 3 Stuff enabled and just wanted to know what to expect!
Thank You guys!

Why would you want to get an international? Besides better dev support and slightly better CPU/gpu, our S3 is still a beast with the S4 processer and 2GB of RAM. Anyways to answer your question, of course the international will run Dead Trigger flawlessly
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If you buying phone purely or mostly for games then international all the way.
US version is good all around if your not heavy gamer.

ghost77 said:
If you buying phone purely or mostly for games then international all the way.
US version is good all around if your not heavy gamer.
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Well I traded up and tbh it seems like there are a lot of biases going around, the experience for now is much smoother overall...maybe its a placebo effect or maybe in the long run this will get slower too but for now everything responds much faster.
Not trying to start anything I just think ppl need to be well informed so they know what to purchase. The international is definately smoother for now and loads apps faster off hand. The international seems to also have FM Radio. The 3G though seems MUCH slower. I mean noticeably slower, sometimes I'm downloading @ 200 KB/s. Also the Ram does fill up fast, just with basic use I'm at 750 megs.
Hope this helps any potential upgrades, purchasers or just knowledge junkies
Also off hand, standby seems to be better on battery for international while use is better on the US. The last about the same from start to finish, but the US has LTE which drains battery more, so I give the nod to the LTE version for battery!
There also seems to be 4 options in Locations Services instead of the 3 in the LTE model, Use wireless netoworks, Use GPS Satelittes, Use Sensor aiding and Location and Google Search. I only remember 3 options in the LTE model.
Thanks for all the replies I'll report back once I get it rooted and running Dead Trigger!
-Another thing I noticed is the international seems to detect my 5 GHZ Wifi Signal, while the Rogers phone couldn't.

Adreno 225 can handle any intensive ggame like Mali mp4 or tegra 3. I currently own s3 adreno, it handles any game I throw at it with breeze, plays hd movies like a champ, plus its 2GB ram for awesome multitasking and with lte makes it a bigger deal IMO.
Dead trigger with high gfx settings plays fine on mine.
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Adreno 225 can handle any intensive ggame like Mali mp4 or tegra 3. I currently own s3 adreno, it handles any game I throw at it with breeze, plays hd movies like a champ, plus its 2GB ram for awesome multitasking and with lte makes it a bigger deal IMO.
Dead trigger with high gfx settings plays fine on mine.
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I agree...there isn't a game out there right now that the Adreno 225 can't run with ease...Dead Trigger runs like a champ on mine...

tarick09 said:
Adreno 225 can handle any intensive ggame like Mali mp4 or tegra 3. I currently own s3 adreno, it handles any game I throw at it with breeze, plays hd movies like a champ, plus its 2GB ram for awesome multitasking and with lte makes it a bigger deal IMO.
Dead trigger with high gfx settings plays fine on mine.
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I did a test for both, and they both start off lagging at the beginning, but the mali handles the rest of the level better. The frames also don't dip, while the adreno did dip, although not too noticeable you could see where the frame rates would dip. The Adreno did amazingly I agree, but it also lagged when getting certain kills, and by lag I mean 1 second freezes! Let's just say the Adreno is a little prone to hiccups once in a blue!
The International also loads into levels faster, but I did find A LOT of bugs when doing the stupid free Gold crap on international....I still haven't gotten my netflix Gold or some the games wouldn't boot properly on the international. One of the Gambing games took 5 tries before it loaded, while on the US it loaded after 2 tries.
Also I do also notice a slightly longer time it takes from going to PLay store back to Dead Trigger, the Krait seemed to handle this better, or it might be the extra Ram headroom.
Lte isn't a big sell for me because @ 1 GB max bandwidth I'm in no hurry to use it all the time and I'm mostly at school which has wifi . 2 GB of ram is a major Loss, but I can't feel it yet. Most likely when we see more development for the phones, we might see some emulation that the US phone can do that this can't, or Virtual machine or w.e.
The other thing I really like is the menu fluidness. It's noticeable on international, it just feels smoother after the phone has been on for a while it's still kept its fluidness, when I remember my friend's Girlfriend tested out my phone (US at the time) because she liked it, she asked why the transitions were so laggy (at the time I had less Widgets running which really shocked me).
As of right now, I'm really pissed the international wasn't available as the base model so users can see the difference for themselves.
-Another thing, the International if your using it while it's plugged into your computer, it will not charge! LOL even if it says it's charging the percentage will either stay the same or go down if your doing intense stuff. The US version just raised up slower
Will report any more changes I see.
P.S the international version I'm using still has it's bloatware! :S I'll see what happens to ram when that is killed off!

NDS emulators and pokemon

Hello.
I'd like to start a conversation about pokemon games running on android emulators.
I've read somewhere that pokemon games are designed not to work on emu's,but i still want to discuss it.
So,i've tried to run pokemon diamond on every single NDS emulator there is for android. Dsoid,nds4droid,Andsemu.
And all run it the same. I can get in the game,the part when rowan talks is really smooth,like in real NDS,but,the in game performance is really laggy.
But thats my case,i have an underclocked and undervolted phone,so,maybie someone got it partly smooth? Like,not so smooth like in the actual console,but not so laggy that its unplayable?
Second,i've tried to run Pokemon platinum,and it got to the "press start" screen. Freezes.
Someone even said they got pokemon white running,gonna try that.

DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Hello.
I'd like to start a conversation about pokemon games running on android emulators.
I've read somewhere that pokemon games are designed not to work on emu's,but i still want to discuss it.
So,i've tried to run pokemon diamond on every single NDS emulator there is for android. Dsoid,nds4droid,Andsemu.
And all run it the same. I can get in the game,the part when rowan talks is really smooth,like in real NDS,but,the in game performance is really laggy.
But thats my case,i have an underclocked and undervolted phone,so,maybie someone got it partly smooth? Like,not so smooth like in the actual console,but not so laggy that its unplayable?
Second,i've tried to run Pokemon platinum,and it got to the "press start" screen. Freezes.
Someone even said they got pokemon white running,gonna try that.
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i have a gnex and 3 different nds emulators on my phone and i've had the same results as you
and there are people who tried on sgs 3 and the same
im going to try with my mother's sgNote2 and report
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I would like to know too
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reporting
almost the same result though it feels a liiiiitle bit faster( 21 fps average) its still too slow to be played
maybe we just have to wait for more updates, all emulators struggle at first
but on the surface pokemon doesnt seem like a very demanding game imo
n64 and ps1 games seem way more demanding but play very smooth on this phone or any quad or dual around, so i guess its a matter of optimization
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Hello.
I'd like to start a conversation about pokemon games running on android emulators.
I've read somewhere that pokemon games are designed not to work on emu's,but i still want to discuss it.
So,i've tried to run pokemon diamond on every single NDS emulator there is for android. Dsoid,nds4droid,Andsemu.
And all run it the same. I can get in the game,the part when rowan talks is really smooth,like in real NDS,but,the in game performance is really laggy.
But thats my case,i have an underclocked and undervolted phone,so,maybie someone got it partly smooth? Like,not so smooth like in the actual console,but not so laggy that its unplayable?
Second,i've tried to run Pokemon platinum,and it got to the "press start" screen. Freezes.
Someone even said they got pokemon white running,gonna try that.
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Pokemon has anti-piracy features so you'll get trouble emulating it.
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gnustomp said:
Pokemon has anti-piracy features so you'll get trouble emulating it.
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Yes i thought so..
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Well... all my GBA pokemon roms work fine on my galaxy note but all ds games run crappy. Its not only about processing power as the original ds has the same hardware as an old Android Phone, but mostly about coding. Ds emus on Android are on diapers. Les hope they manage to make them work better later on. Right now i play ds games on my pc. Flawlessly i must say.

Honestly they probably won't ever run fast. The ones on PC still don't run even great, although you will get a steady game with decent specs. I wouldn't count on running a Nds emu anytime soon until we have a strong spec'd phone.
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Honestly they probably won't ever run fast. The ones on PC still don't run even great, although you will get a steady game with decent specs. I wouldn't count on running a Nds emu anytime soon until we have a strong spec'd phone.
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I can run the latest pokemon games(black 2) without lag at full speed on my laptop
Its only single core 3ghz processor but still, if it could be done for pc's then it will be done for phones, specially with 1.9 quad monsters like the gs4 coming this year
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negrobembon said:
I can run the latest pokemon games(black 2) without lag at full speed on my laptop
Its only single core 3ghz processor but still, if it could be done for pc's then it will be done for phones, specially with 1.9 quad monsters like the gs4 coming this year
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Dual core 2.10 and I get fps loss. But what type of processor? But.. if I get around and set it up properly I can usually play around full speed.
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pokerapar88 said:
Well... all my GBA pokemon roms work fine on my galaxy note but all ds games run crappy. Its not only about processing power as the original ds has the same hardware as an old Android Phone, but mostly about coding. Ds emus on Android are on diapers. Les hope they manage to make them work better later on. Right now i play ds games on my pc. Flawlessly i must say.
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It is about processing power. I believe to emulate any system full speed you need to run on a system about 4X more powerfully than what you're emulating. Unless the emulators start utilizing multiple cores (I don't believe they do now) you probably need around 2 GHz chip for effective nds emulation.
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iloqutiss1 said:
It is about processing power. I believe to emulate any system full speed you need to run on a system about 4X more powerfully than what you're emulating. Unless the emulators start utilizing multiple cores (I don't believe they do now) you probably need around 2 GHz chip for effective nds emulation.
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Waaaay more than 4x the power if the emu is not optimized. Considering the NDS has a 66mhz cpu and our 1.0 + ghz phones can't do it.

Unless the emulator is written to take advantage of multiple cores, it, like most programs, will use just a single core. So a single-core processor clocked at 3GHz will outperform a quad-core clocked at 2GHz (in respects to emulation performance).
FYI, most Intel Core-i processors have built-in per-core overclocking: a single core under demand will be overclocked as long as the overall CPU temperature is within normal parameters.
Don't forget to play around with the emulator's graphics settings as well as your video card's (GPU settings for phones). Reducing or turning off anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, texture quality, triple buffering, etc will increase your frame rate.
Your version of android and custom ROM can definitely be affecting your game play. My favorite ROM is Eclipse 2.1 Build 4 (Android 4.1.2) with the latest LeanKernel. It's by far the most stable and fastest ROM/kernel combo I've tested on my Gnex. I can overclock the CPU from 1200MHz to 1650MHz, and the GPU from 307MHz to 512MHz. You can also force 16-bit transparency for even more graphics performance.
If someone can PM me a link to the emulator and game, I can test it and report back.

gnustomp said:
Pokemon has anti-piracy features so you'll get trouble emulating it.
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Even though you have the right to have a rom as a backup to the actual game and also there are anti-piracy ar codes and patches for the roms. That's how people bypass them.

pokerapar88 said:
Well... all my GBA pokemon roms work fine on my galaxy note but all ds games run crappy. Its not only about processing power as the original ds has the same hardware as an old Android Phone, but mostly about coding. Ds emus on Android are on diapers. Les hope they manage to make them work better later on. Right now i play ds games on my pc. Flawlessly i must say.
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Just to add what Speedyink and Iloqutiss has already said, it's not about the sheer power, in fact, we can theoretically easily reach sky-high frame per second with our hardware, but emulators are not coded for high frame rate, it's coded for, well, emulation, it needs to mimic the target hardware platform, and this includes the accuracy and latency, and this means a hell lot of processing power, which will whether you like it or not, reduces the speed considerably.
Emulator is not coded for being fast, it's coded for being accurate, here's a good writeup by Ars about how emulators generally works: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/...-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/
EDIT I just realized I quoted the wrong person, whoops, corrected.

4x the power of the consloe? Damn i thought only 2x was needed
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negrobembon said:
4x the power of the consloe? Damn i thought only 2x was needed
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Its more like 10x
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond

negrobembon said:
I can run the latest pokemon games(black 2) without lag at full speed on my laptop
Its only single core 3ghz processor but still, if it could be done for pc's then it will be done for phones, specially with 1.9 quad monsters like the gs4 coming this year
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FYI... phones are just reaching toward the power of a Pentium m @ 2ghz CPU wise. PM does 7k+ MIPS and 3.9gflops @1.7ghz which it takes a quad in a phone to compete with and it still doesn't reach that. Can't compare your laptop to your phone as even a low end laptop is vastly more powerful than a high end phone. Your 3ghz single core pastes the quads of todays phones. I.e a POS pentium 4 @ 3ghz will avg 4.4gflops, while my quad exynos will avg 200-300mflops... accounting for dalvik lag I'd assume peak I'd see is 3gflops in ideal conditions which is still a fair way from even a Pentium 4. And then to even compare it to the core architecture is a joke because it will get beat every time. Arm wins hands down in performance/Watt though and I don't see that changing any time soon
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gs4 emulation
I have the gs4 and it runs up to black and white 2 but extremely slow, ds emulation needs more work id say