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[Q] hboot says I have S-on but Revolutionary says I have S-off

So I was trying to unroot my phone to take it back to Sprint. I flashed PCimg to put S-on and was going RUU back to stock ROM. However, for some reason the RUU says it cant find my device. So I decided to just go back and switch back to S-off. But when I try to run Revolutionary it says that I am already S-off. But the bootloader says I have S-on. Halp!

download unrevoked forever son patch and put on sd card. Go into your recovery and flash it. Go back to hboot and see if its on. Lemme know if that works thanks.. if you need the file i can upload it for ya.

thlinx said:
download unrevoked forever son patch and put on sd card. Go into your recovery and flash it. Go back to hboot and see if its on. Lemme know if that works thanks.. if you need the file i can upload it for ya.
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Ok well I attempted to do that....but I cant flash unrevoked forever because I have the latest radio version and they are not compatible. So the flash aborts midway through. And unfortunately I cannot downgrade my radio, at least not that I've seen. So now what?

What hboot version do you have?
If it is 6.17 because that's how you s-on'ed revolutionary, you need to run an RUU to get you back to 2.16 so you can reroot. If the computer won't find your device, try running it with the phone in fastboot.
Sent from my Evo + MIUI using Tapatalk!

plainjane said:
What hboot version do you have?
If it is 6.17 because that's how you s-on'ed revolutionary, you need to run an RUU to get you back to 2.16 so you can reroot. If the computer won't find your device, try running it with the phone in fastboot.
Sent from my Evo + MIUI using Tapatalk!
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I ended up flashing a PC36IMG that wiped everything and set my OTA, hboot, recovery, splash, boot animation, and got the S-on worked out. One file.....one flash....one happy Evo owner.
Thanks for the suggestions.

I have that exact same problem. Any way you can share the link to that PCIMG file you used to fix your problem. I am in the same boat.

johng294 said:
I have that exact same problem. Any way you can share the link to that PCIMG file you used to fix your problem. I am in the same boat.
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nevermind i just had to run the RUU again. my mistake.

johng294 said:
nevermind i just had to run the RUU again. my mistake.
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Hey man, sorry for not responding. I didn't see that this thread had been bumped. Glad you got it working properly.

help
well im on hboot 6.17 but i have s-on as well an i cant flash pc36img it wont take it for some reason an were i took that ota 4.54 i cant find an ruu for it..can anyone help??

tylo23 said:
well im on hboot 6.17 but i have s-on as well an i cant flash pc36img it wont take it for some reason an were i took that ota 4.54 i cant find an ruu for it..can anyone help??
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Wouldn't you be able to run the RUU for the 4.53 then just update to the new 4.54??

Make LCD Incredible S-On

I have an LCD Incredible with radio version 2.15.10.07.07 and I'm trying to return it back to stock so I can sell it to a friend. I have already flashed the stock unrooted ROM (PB31IMG.zip) and it gave me back the stock recovery, I read that I should flash unrevoked-forever-son.zip via CWM but my radio isn't on the supported list and I don't want to brick the device. What should I do?
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Go here and flash the 7.28 Froyo radio http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=18 that should do the trick. This is assuming you flashed the Froyo RUU.

I flashed the Gingerbread image, I didn't use the RUU because I was having problems connecting.

I believe you can still flash the Froyo radio. If not just flash the Froyo Ruu, you can also get the PB31IMG file for it at pvillcomp.com. Then flash the 7.28 radio. If you do this, the phone should receive the OTA gingerbread update.

Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?

Go here, grab the stock recovery and flash it in Hboot. I'm not sure if you will have to reroot first or not. Give it a shot and let me know.

brando56894 said:
Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?
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You should be able to run the PB13IMGwhatver zip again and it will give you the Stock Recovery and Stock Rom.
My advice would be to run the newest Gingerbread Stock PBIMG so as to not have to downgrade, then boot, then download OTA, then run that and so on. Simply flash one PBIMG and be over with it
Hope this helps....

Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.

brando56894 said:
Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.
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Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.

cmlusco said:
Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
Sent from my M9300 using xda premium

KyoceraEchoHax said:
Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
Sent from my M9300 using xda premium
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s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.

cmlusco said:
s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.
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This man speaks the truth!

cmlusco said:
You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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This is what I tried to flash but it didn't give me any option to update it.

[Q] Hboot issues

Hello I've been on this forum for quite a while, but never really posted anything. Right now I'm struggling with my EVO4g because it's having issues updating the PC36IMG.zip in hboot AND it says it is S-on when other programs such as revolutionary's root program. I'll explain everything I did and provide as much information in return for some help. Also I have googled this issue and no place seems to have a solution to the issues on my EVO.
What went down:
-Decided I want to unroot my phone and start from scratch
-Tried unrooting using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
-Says i have S-on and Hboot 6.17
-Tried rooting with revolutionary, but says I have s-off already enabled. HBoot says S-on though so this is where i get confused
-Tried going into recovery but just get the update picture and then the red triangle over the phone
-Try flashing RA recovery PC36IMG.zip through Hboot but never asks to update when it scans the img
My questions are Why is it saying I have s-on when revolutionary is saying I have s-off and how do I fix this? Why does my Hboot refuse to update through a PC36IMG.zip and how do i fix this?

drkknight74 said:
Hello I've been on this forum for quite a while, but never really posted anything. Right now I'm struggling with my EVO4g because it's having issues updating the PC36IMG.zip in hboot AND it says it is S-on when other programs such as revolutionary's root program. I'll explain everything I did and provide as much information in return for some help. Also I have googled this issue and no place seems to have a solution to the issues on my EVO.
What went down:
-Decided I want to unroot my phone and start from scratch
-Tried unrooting using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
-Says i have S-on and Hboot 6.17
-Tried rooting with revolutionary, but says I have s-off already enabled. HBoot says S-on though so this is where i get confused
-Tried going into recovery but just get the update picture and then the red triangle over the phone
-Try flashing RA recovery PC36IMG.zip through Hboot but never asks to update when it scans the img
My questions are Why is it saying I have s-on when revolutionary is saying I have s-off and how do I fix this? Why does my Hboot refuse to update through a PC36IMG.zip and how do i fix this?
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This is because of your hboot 6.16. That's the hboot that revolutionary gives you after you s-off so it thinks your s-off already. What you have to do is run the ruu again and it will revert your hboot back to 2.16 so you can rerun revolutionary
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Also the reasons the PC36IMG.zip you tried to flash do not work is because your s-on the ONLY thing that will flash in the bootloader is something signed by HTC so trying to flash a recovery ect do not work. Only things signed by HTC are ruus
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Thanks a lot for your help! Worked like a charm

Oh my god finally the thread I was looking for!! I Did the EXACT SAME steps and I am looking for a solution. ATM I have 6.17something HBOOT, android 2.3.3, build 4.54.651.1, kernel 2.6.35.10-g1357ee, and broadbase 2.15.00.0808. Idk if you need any of that but thats some info. PLEASE REPLY I WANT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM!!
-THANK YOU

xMidnitex said:
Oh my god finally the thread I was looking for!! I Did the EXACT SAME steps and I am looking for a solution. ATM I have 6.17something HBOOT, android 2.3.3, build 4.54.651.1, kernel 2.6.35.10-g1357ee, and broadbase 2.15.00.0808. Idk if you need any of that but thats some info. PLEASE REPLY I WANT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM!!
-THANK YOU
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Are you trying to unroot?
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evo4gnoob said:
Are you trying to unroot?
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Yes. I have "S-on" but when trying to root with revolutionary it says s-off

xMidnitex said:
Yes. I have "S-on" but when trying to root with revolutionary it says s-off
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Just rerun the ruu again and you have hboot 2.16 again then can reroot with revolutionary if you choose
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Okay but I dont remember where I downloaded the RUU previously. I dont have it on my computer because my hard drive crashed. I remember I was on a page somewhere that had all of the stock ROMs but i dont remember where

xMidnitex said:
Okay but I dont remember where I downloaded the RUU previously. I dont have it on my computer because my hard drive crashed. I remember I was on a page somewhere that had all of the stock ROMs but i dont remember where
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Here, try this. I was having this same issue and got it fixed. After I ran this RUU there was one more update, but BE CAREFUL. Don't accept the latest update from HTC/Sprint because it changes and locks your HBOOT and there's no way to root it yet. Hope this helps. I ran the ruu, let it do it's thing, accepted one update tht still had HBOOT 2.16, then rooted my phone like normal. Funny thing is, I didn't understand what ANY of this meant just a few days ago, but after 8 hours of reading and scratching my head.. it hit me and it's all pretty simple.
Originally Posted by Football
Here latest RUU for SuperSonic
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc2d...233_signed.exe
Enjoy!

xMidnitex said:
Okay but I dont remember where I downloaded the RUU previously. I dont have it on my computer because my hard drive crashed. I remember I was on a page somewhere that had all of the stock ROMs but i dont remember where
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Here's a PC36IMG of the 4.54 ROM you can install through the bootloader:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9362091/PC3....15.00.0808_NV_2.15_release_220182_signed.zip

[Q] Re-Rooting Problem

I'm trying to root my brothers Evo again and running into some problems.
Back story: I had rooted his device with Revolutionary and he was running CM7 just fine. He started to have troubles with his screen so we unrooted it and got S-ON back. He took his phone to Sprint and instead of replacing the device, they decided to just replace the screen on it.
Current story: Downloaded Revolutionary and ran it and got this;
Code:
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| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
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Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: PC36100 (supersonic-6.17.0001, Android: 2.3.3, ROM version: 4.53.651.1)
Your device is already S-OFF, what exactly do you think you're doing? Not setting S-OFF.
Do you want to download (Internet connection required) and flash ClockworkMod Recovery? [Y/ny
Downloading recovery for your phone (supersonic)...Done.
Rebooting to fastboot...
Flashing recovery over fastboot...INFOsignature checking...
FAILED. Unable to flash recovery. Please download custom recovery yourself and flash it over fastboot.
So here I am with the HBOOT saying that S-ON and Revolutionary telling me it's off and won't turn it off.
Not sure where to go from here!?
Thanks!

When it tells you that your Device is already S-OFF, you should have an option to turn it off regardless.
If that doesn't work, I guess you could try and use another method to do it.
and if THOSE don't work, I guess you could just sbf flash it it

I don't have an option to turn it off regardless.. it finds the device and logs the fact it thinks S-OFF is present and asks to download the recovery.
I thought revolutionary was the only option for HBOOT 1.6 at this point. Is this incorrect?
Also what do you mean by sbf flash it?

DruKe said:
I don't have an option to turn it off regardless.. it finds the device and logs the fact it thinks S-OFF is present and asks to download the recovery.
I thought revolutionary was the only option for HBOOT 1.6 at this point. Is this incorrect?
Also what do you mean by sbf flash it?
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You didn't do the last step after getting S-ON, which is flashing a stock ROM. Because of your HBOOT version, Revolutionary thinks you're already S-OFF. You need to flash a stock ROM to normalize your HBOOT version, and then Revolutionary will work.

He cannot flash a stock ROM if he is S-ON. Sbf basically resets everything on your phone back to its "out of the box" state

@Druke, can you get to recovery? If there is no recovery you may want to RUU back to 4.54 then try revolutionary again. Or just go through the un-rooting steps again.

imheroldman said:
@Druke, can you get to recovery? If there is no recovery you may want to RUU back to 4.54 then try revolutionary again. Or just go through the un-rooting steps again.
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Just remember to not do any updates after RUU'ing back to 4.54! Then you'll have to use other methods to unlock and revert. Good luck.

Flowsick said:
He cannot flash a stock ROM if he is S-ON.
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This is incorrect. You can flash a signed HTC stock ROM in PC36IMG format (or RUU on a PC for that matter) just fine. As I said, that's the last necessary step to returning the device to stock conditions. Trust me, I've done it probably almost 100 times.
P.S. Since I'm the one that came up with the unrooting method that was used, I would know .

I did try an RUU yes. I will need to try an RUU again. The one I used must have been unsigned or unofficial somehow. Anyone help me out? With the megaupload thing it seems all the links around here have dried up. Thanks!
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DruKe said:
I did try an RUU yes. I will need to try an RUU again. The one I used must have been unsigned or unofficial somehow. Anyone help me out? With the megaupload thing it seems all the links around here have dried up. Thanks!
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The unrooting Revolutionary root link in my sig has links to some PC36IMG zips that can be flashed in bootloader.
I recommend the 4.54 version. Sometimes it won't work if you're using a version that's too old, or if your SD card isn't a high capacity card or got corrupted somehow.

Captain_Throwback said:
The unrooting Revolutionary root link in my sig has links to some PC36IMG zips that can be flashed in bootloader.
I recommend the 4.54 version. Sometimes it won't work if you're using a version that's too old, or if your SD card isn't a high capacity card or got corrupted somehow.
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4.54 RUU or PC36IMG is the most likely to work, however, 4.24 and 4.53 contain the same HBOOT needed for Revolutionary to work again as well.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

shortydoggg said:
4.54 RUU or PC36IMG is the most likely to work, however, 4.24 and 4.53 contain the same HBOOT needed for Revolutionary to work again as well.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
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Of course, but my recommendation was referring to the ones posted in the link .

I tried grabbing the 4.54 version from you post however the link to it is dead.
Got dropbox?

DruKe said:
I tried grabbing the 4.54 version from you post however the link to it is dead.
Got dropbox?
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It shouldn't be - I refreshed those links earlier today and changed them to 4shared. When did you last try?

So weird.. works now! Thanks a ton! I'll give it a shot this weekend. Hopefully everything goes aces!
Thanks again.

[Q] unrevoked or revolutionary?

Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?

lostsoul77 said:
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
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since your on 2.3.5 you most likely have hboot 2.18. Your root method is going to be HTCdev.com. After you s-on unlocked with HTC dev you can either downgrade to a earlier version like froyo or GB and root with unrevoked or revolutionary or you can stay s-on unlocked but lose out on certain things because you wont be fully NAND unlocked(s-off) just unlocked s-on

lostsoul77 said:
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
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HBOOT IS 2.18.0001 which revolutionary doesn't appear to support. Also highlighted in pink it is displaying *** LOCKED (OOW) ***
I have a feeling someone is going to tell me it cant be rooted....

lostsoul77 said:
HBOOT IS 2.18.0001 which revolutionary doesn't appear to support. Also highlighted in pink it is displaying *** LOCKED (OOW) ***
I have a feeling someone is going to tell me it cant be rooted....
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Have to use HTCdev.com to s-on unlock then flash recovery through fastboot then superuser binaries and superuser zip
heres a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA

evo4gnoob said:
Have to use HTCdev.com to s-on unlock then flash recovery through fastboot then superuser binaries and superuser zip
heres a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
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do i need to downgrade my hboot? revolutionary site only gives 2.15.0001 and 2.16.0001 as options. I did the the s-on unlock successfully.

lostsoul77 said:
do i need to downgrade my hboot? revolutionary site only gives 2.15.0001 and 2.16.0001 as options. I did the the s-on unlock successfully.
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up to you. Do you want to downgrade to Froyo to use unrevoked or GB to use revoltuionary. You can flash roms with s-on unlocked just miss out on some perks S-OFF users have

evo4gnoob said:
up to you. Do you want to downgrade to Froyo to use unrevoked or GB to use revoltuionary. You can flash roms with s-on unlocked just miss out on some perks S-OFF users have
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I would rather use revolutionary as I've rooted a few other people's evo's with that method and it went fairly smooth. What im confused about is the hboot. I have to get the hboot to atleast 2.16.0001 and simply flashing a GB rom won't do that right? So do I need to find the radio thread and find an hboot file and can I even downgrade the hboot from 2.18 to 2.16 in order to use revolutionary to obtain s-off so that i can go back to what i was used to?

lostsoul77 said:
I would rather use revolutionary as I've rooted a few other people's evo's with that method and it went fairly smooth. What im confused about is the hboot. I have to get the hboot to atleast 2.16.0001 and simply flashing a GB rom won't do that right? So do I need to find the radio thread and find an hboot file and can I even downgrade the hboot from 2.18 to 2.16 in order to use revolutionary to obtain s-off so that i can go back to what i was used to?
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Simply flashing a rom wont affect radios ect. With S-on unlocked you CANT flash radios or hboots so you have to do a certain process in order to downgrade. You have to follow these steps exactly in order to downgrade. http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-)

evo4gnoob said:
Simply flashing a rom wont affect radios ect. With S-on unlocked you CANT flash radios or hboots so you have to do a certain process in order to downgrade. You have to follow these steps exactly in order to downgrade. http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-)
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Thanks so much for your help Evo4gnoob! i'm almost back to where i need to be. currently pushing recovery again via unrevoked.

lostsoul77 said:
Thanks so much for your help Evo4gnoob! i'm almost back to where i need to be. currently pushing recovery again via unrevoked.
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spoke too soon, having problems pushing recovery with unrevoked. says installing unrevoked3 service and been like that for 5mins

Not trying to sound like an A-Hole here, but what you have to do is exactly what evo4gnoob saays. Theres certain steps you have to take. evo helped me root my device with the exact same setup you have flawlessly. Hes pretty sharp. Take his advice and let him teach you.

drlzanej said:
Not trying to sound like an A-Hole here, but what you have to do is exactly what evo4gnoob saays. Theres certain steps you have to take. evo helped me root my device with the exact same setup you have flawlessly. Hes pretty sharp. Take his advice and let him teach you.
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I have it to where it is currently running Froyo. I followed all of the instructions. I'm not trying to root it using unrevoked as after downgrading, the root access was taken away. The unrevoked app pushes the recovery and sits at a status of "installing unrevoked3 service..." and never finishes. That's where i'm stuck at. I'm not new to rooting, just didn't have to go about it this way the last time. If unrevoked keeps failing, then I will give revolutionary a try if it supports froyo.

lostsoul77 said:
I have it to where it is currently running Froyo. I followed all of the instructions. I'm not trying to root it using unrevoked as after downgrading, the root access was taken away. The unrevoked app pushes the recovery and sits at a status of "installing unrevoked3 service..." and never finishes. That's where i'm stuck at. I'm not new to rooting, just didn't have to go about it this way the last time. If unrevoked keeps failing, then I will give revolutionary a try if it supports froyo.
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I've never used unrevoked so I have no idea how it works. Always felt that revolutionary was more simpler. Revolutionary only supports hboot 2.16 and 2.15 so you can take a ota just make sure its not the 4.67 ota
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evo4gnoob said:
I've never used unrevoked so I have no idea how it works. Always felt that revolutionary was more simpler. Revolutionary only supports hboot 2.16 and 2.15 so you can take a ota just make sure its not the 4.67 ota
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I did the OTA which upgraded me to 2.33 and hboot 2.16 and tried running revolutionary. Installed the fast boot drivers as well. receiving this error:
Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. rawadb_open: remote closed the
connection looking for target "sync:"
Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try again.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
There is nothing using any usb port. This is becoming frustrating now

lostsoul77 said:
I did the OTA which upgraded me to 2.33 and hboot 2.16 and tried running revolutionary. Installed the fast boot drivers as well. receiving this error:
Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. rawadb_open: remote closed the
connection looking for target "sync:"
Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try again.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
There is nothing using any usb port. This is becoming frustrating now
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finally got it! had to reinstall the drivers.

Hell yeah, Are you s-on or s-off. as stated by evo4gnoob earlier, there are more advantages to s-off. flashing kernells,radios and such. Makes for a much more enjoyable expierience as far as flashing and moding,,,Later

drlzanej said:
Hell yeah, Are you s-on or s-off. as stated by evo4gnoob earlier, there are more advantages to s-off. flashing kernells,radios and such. Makes for a much more enjoyable expierience as far as flashing and moding,,,Later
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s-off, latest radios, and running MikG3.11...rooted with revolutionary after the long process of downgrading to froyo and upgrading to GB; unrevoked simply wasnt working correctly. An unrooted phone is just wrong on so many levels! LOL! Thank you guys much for all of your help! It's members like you who make this forum so great!

you can use htcdev to get s-off then use revolutionary to gain root.

4bdnf8 said:
you can use htcdev to get s-off then use revolutionary to gain root.
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htcdev does not give you s-off and revolutionary doesnt give you root it just s-offs you and installs a custom recovery

evo4gnoob said:
htcdev does not give you s-off and revolutionary doesnt give you root it just s-offs you and installs a custom recovery
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HTCDEV unlocks the bootloader
revolutionary and unrevoked give you root and s-off. I used revolutionary and I definetly have root as well as s-off.