[Q] FPU/VFP coprocessor for Desire HD? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im wondering whether the MSM8255 Snapdragon utilizes any hardware for floating point calculation? And also, is there a datasheet/manual for the Scorpion core CPU? I cant find anything while googling...

tiisch said:
Im wondering whether the MSM8255 Snapdragon utilizes any hardware for floating point calculation? And also, is there a datasheet/manual for the Scorpion core CPU? I cant find anything while googling...
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http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0344k/Chdjbice.html

Hm - Thx for your post, but link pointing to cortex, while MSM8255 is arm7
Datasheet anyone?
BR

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Defy = OMAP 3630

After installing RSD Lite. I could see S Flash OMAP3630 after I plugin the defy via usb while the phone is on bootloader (Power+VolUp)
Does it mean the the defy has a OMAP3630 and not a 3610?
Yes, a lot of people says "that is an error!! DONT CARE!"
A loot of people says, no, other says yes, and motorola don't care about it...
But in my opinion have a 3630 ( not sure ).
I think thats what the driver say it is...
The only way to find out will be to install a 3610 driver specifically and try if PC recognizes this. Doesnt it make sense?
why motorola make a 3630 driver for a 3610 CPu?
no logic...
tomeu0000 said:
why motorola make a 3630 driver for a 3610 CPu?
no logic...
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its an unified driver for the hole range of 36xx cpu's.
and in the other thread its come to the point it's a 3615 cpu with 3D but without 720p encoding/decoding ...
inteks said:
its an unified driver for the hole range of 36xx cpu's.
and in the other thread its come to the point it's a 3615 cpu with 3D but without 720p encoding/decoding ...
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i know this thread (i contributed some posts myself) but when its a 3615 w 3d and w/o hd en/decoding, how come that it plays 720p content in mp4/h.264 like a charm?
source: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DEFY-Review_id2578/page/3
i think, we can't be shure until it the defy gets shred to pieces by ifixit or some other daredevil
PUSH!!!
derbestimmer said:
i know this thread (i contributed some posts myself) but when its a 3615 w 3d and w/o hd en/decoding, how come that it plays 720p content in mp4/h.264 like a charm?
source: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DEFY-Review_id2578/page/3
i think, we can't be shure until it the defy gets shred to pieces by ifixit or some other daredevil
PUSH!!!
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Yes it's possible, but if the bit rate goes up 4mb/s, you can't play it.. why?
easy, the band width isn't sufficient, and phone overloads.
I thing a bitrate of 30000kbps it's ok, nothing more....
PD: srry for my bad english
the processor of defy is a Texas Instruments OMAP3630 because it included a POWERVR SGX graphics 530. POWERVR is recognized by Quadrant.
focus.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt024b/swpt024b.pdf
wwwimgtec.com/factsheets/powervr/POWERVR_SGX_Series5_IP_Core_Family.pdf
inteks said:
its an unified driver for the hole range of 36xx cpu's.
and in the other thread its come to the point it's a 3615 cpu with 3D but without 720p encoding/decoding ...
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That's physically impossible!
Only 3630/3622 come with the package required for POP (stacked memory chip). If it is 361x, where is the memory chip? It's very hard to miss shuch a huge chip.
eykxas said:
the processor of defy is a Texas Instruments OMAP3630 because it included a POWERVR SGX graphics 530. POWERVR is recognized by Quadrant.
focus.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt024b/swpt024b.pdf
wwwimgtec.com/factsheets/powervr/POWERVR_SGX_Series5_IP_Core_Family.pdf
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No, that's an outdated presentation. In the latest (Nov. 2010) Technical Reference Manual, ALL 36xx variants have identical full speed GPUs.
So where can we find the Windows 7 drivers for this so I can get RSDLite working?
At the moment getting a msg indicating drivers are not installed??
Edit: used winxp machine. S/W issue at my end.
hi, i want do something on AM3703, it's same with omap 3630? thanks in advance!
I hope so ,but ,I don't believe it has the opma3630.may be there is an error on the software.If defy's cpu is 3630,it can be more attracktive!so,why moto didn't tell us it's cpu is 3630?
Believe what u want...it works...and it works great
Thats all that matters
When the Defy+ comes out, just benchmark it...surely a 3610 + kyro will be slightly less powerful than a 3630
周矛顺啊 said:
I hope so ,but ,I don't believe it has the opma3630.may be there is an error on the software.If defy's cpu is 3630,it can be more attracktive!so,why moto didn't tell us it's cpu is 3630?
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Same reason they used when they said it didn't have ANY Graphic Chip and the same one when they said the phone only had a 2 point Multitouch Screen.
I believe they limited the device softwarewise in order to strategise the launch of its successor Defy+ .
Why just not compare performance with phones for which we know they have 3630 for sure and then we will know
Zephyrot said:
Same reason they used when they said it didn't have ANY Graphic Chip and the same one when they said the phone only had a 2 point Multitouch Screen.
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Sounds like either moto has a plan and lied, or their spokes person havent a clue.
I vote for the latter...
i think defy's cpu is 3630.so defy+ update cpu to 3630 is a joke.

[Q] Confused about my tmobile g2 processor

Friends i found some great games like modern combat, deer hunter etc in another forum, they shows links as snap dragon version then samsung galaxy s and other Cortex processors, desire hd, and xperia version, i am confused which one to download, bcoz specs of g2 shows it has scorpian 800mhz processor with adreno 205 gpu, but in desire z specs it shows it has 800mhz snapdragon processor, so correct game selection for desire z is simple, but which one to choose for tmobile g2?
You choose the same version you choose for the Desire Z, since the Tmobile G2 uses the same Processor and GPU. The chip is the Snapdragon Scorpion, where Scorpion refers to the application processor core. Some people call the CPU Scorpion others Snapdragon, it basically refers to the same thing.
As above, Snapdragon is the package (system on a chip) and Scorpion the core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
boost3d23 said:
You choose the same version you choose for the Desire Z, since the Tmobile G2 uses the same Processor and GPU. The chip is the Snapdragon Scorpion, where Scorpion refers to the application processor core. Some people call the CPU Scorpion others Snapdragon, it basically refers to the same thing.
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Thanx a lot for your help, will get snapdragon versions actually I checked the specs of both sets on gsmarena, where they shown scorpion for g2, and snapdragon for desire z that's what made me confused
craiglay said:
As above, Snapdragon is the package (system on a chip) and Scorpion the core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
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thanks mate, I was going to dishearted when I was looking at games and found no word on scorpion processor, nearly sold my g2 bcoz of that now will love to keep it as long as I can

the specs for the 8S on XDA are wrong

on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2010 it states that the 8S has 1.50GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, when the 8S actually has Qualcomm S4 1 GHz, Dual-core
kingcartwright said:
on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2010 it states that the 8S has 1.50GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, when the 8S actually has Qualcomm S4 1 GHz, Dual-core
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As far as i know the processor is the same like the one on the 8X only that it`s downclocked to 1Ghz.If i manage to find the article where i read this i will post it here.
Here are the current specs on gsmarena.
cevi said:
As far as i know the processor is the same like the one on the 8X only that it`s downclocked to 1Ghz.If i manage to find the article where i read this i will post it here.
Here are the current specs on gsmarena.
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So probably is it possible to overclock the phone to 1.5GHz? If yes, can someone explain how?
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AndroidSLC50 said:
From what I have learned from Android, you can get it overclocked by installing a custom rom.
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Android overclocks with a custom kernel. Not sure how windows phones work when it boils down to the OS but if you can configure the deep, deep drivers within the windows phone you can probably overclock it much higher than 1.5 ghz.
My S3 has the same 1.5 S4 but its currently running at 2.1 ghz
I think it just might need a little time, but will come. Get some of the geniuses over here at XDA to help
AFAIK, not being a Windows Phone user, overclocking may be too tricky.
Niddu85 said:
So probably is it possible to overclock the phone to 1.5GHz? If yes, can someone explain how?
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Yes.There is always a chance to overclock the processor but as far as i know it is to early for this to be done.Only time will tell.

[Q] Which GPU is in the SM-T210R?

I hope this is the right forum? I've been looking for the correct GPU on the SM-T210R Wi-Fi only Tab? I've done a few searches and it comes up PXA986 1.2 GHz dual-core with the PowerVR SGX540 ??? Then it goes off and says a totally different CPU/GPU combo.. The reason is I'm trying to get a game and it has 4 different gpu's zips from Mali, Tegra, Adreno and PoverVR and I'm trying to locate the correct one.. Any help Thanks!
And RocketTab 3.1 for the WIN! (LOL)
Jami:laugh:
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T210/R and T211 use Vivante GC1000 core gpu
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T210/R and T211 use Vivante GC1000 core gpu
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So what digging I did that is aka PowerVR? There is 4 different Injustice Gods Among us files Adreno, Mali, PowerVR and Tegra. I know it's not Tegra that's Nvidia and some Samsung uses Mali and Adreno and the other PowerVR has a / Vivante GC1000 ... So thanks I'll give the PowerVR a go and hope it all works after all the downloading lol Thanks!!
Jami:good:
jkdillon627 said:
So what digging I did that is aka PowerVR? There is 4 different Injustice Gods Among us files Adreno, Mali, PowerVR and Tegra. I know it's not Tegra that's Nvidia and some Samsung uses Mali and Adreno and the other PowerVR has a / Vivante GC1000 ... So thanks I'll give the PowerVR a go and hope it all works after all the downloading lol Thanks!!
Jami:good:
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Good luck:good:
hi
jkdillon627 said:
I hope this is the right forum? I've been looking for the correct GPU on the SM-T210R Wi-Fi only Tab? I've done a few searches and it comes up PXA986 1.2 GHz dual-core with the PowerVR SGX540 ??? Then it goes off and says a totally different CPU/GPU combo.. The reason is I'm trying to get a game and it has 4 different gpu's zips from Mali, Tegra, Adreno and PoverVR and I'm trying to locate the correct one.. Any help Thanks!
And RocketTab 3.1 for the WIN! (LOL)
Jami:laugh:
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Did it work for you ? i am trying to install real racing 3 and struck with the same reason.

SOC version

I read that HTC Desire EYE has Qualcom 801 msm8974AB but mine is msm8974AA
Anyone else ? Even more funny is the short spec sheet here on XDA 2.4GHz CPU?!?!?!?
Guys get serious..
nedooo said:
I read that HTC Desire EYE has Qualcom 801 msm8974AB but mine is msm8974AA
Anyone else ? Even more funny is the short spec sheet here on XDA 2.4GHz CPU?!?!?!?
Guys get serious..
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We have a 8974AA (both are pin compatible and are very similar).
uberlaggydarwin said:
We have a 8974AA (both are pin compatible and are very similar).
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Thanks for reply.
So every Desire EYE have msm8974AA?
So this one is like Snapdragon 800 first generation used in LG G2...Xperia Z1...Nexus 5...etc.
I was confused about low benchmark scores on all reviews but now it is clear Snapdragon 801 MSM8974AA is in HTC Eye...lower GPU clock and RAM clock...funny how hardware info is not correct in any app available...
uberlaggydarwin said:
We have a 8974AA (both are pin compatible and are very similar).
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Similar but GPU and RAM are on the low clock speed sadly
I informed PDADB and they are the first (best) to change SOC spec used in Desire EYE
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7547&c=htc_desire_eye_4g_lte_emea_m910n

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