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[Q] Why No Love Anymore for Froyo?

I've said it before numerous times here, that I haven't had a very pleasurable experience with Gingerbread ROMs (i.e. those built off CM7 source). Every GB ROM I've tried has had their good and bad points, but many of those bad points span across them all since they're built off CM7. Not being able to play videos in portrait mode, Gmail not handling text properly in its margins, etc etc keeps me going back to ROMs built off Froyo. Specifically, I'm thoroughly enjoying Virtuous 1.0.1 (built on HTC Sense), as everything works perfectly in it.
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore. If you look back at any of the threads starting with [ROM], you'll notice there aren't many that don't have either "gingerbread" or "CM7" in their titles. ROMs that were built using Froyo have dead links or aren't supported by the developers anymore, so if you have questions or want to report an issue you can't. I wish I had the skills to develop my own ROMs for G2 owners, but I'm just not smart enough nor do I have free time to try learning how to do that. Are there any devs here who would consider building some Froyo ROMs? I know there are still some out there that we could use (Villision by TeamVillain, CM 6.1.1, etc), but they haven't been updated in quite some time.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
/end_rant

You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.

If you like Virtuous you might want to give the Desire S ROM a try, it's the best ROM I've used on this phone so far.

blackknightavalon said:
PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
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I think you're missing the point of this thread. I don't want Gingerbread ROMs built off CM7 source (with PyroMod it's built off CM7-Nightly-31). I'm looking for more ROMs or more development of ROMs built on Froyo. Granted, that could be a really good ROM, but it's still going to have the underlying issues I explained in my OP since this isn't built off pure Gingerbread code. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.

Freakytah said:
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!

sino8r said:
Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
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Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Spastic909 said:
Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Who the **** are you to say anything? It was a joke just like his post... obviously you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and being a jerk off. Why don't you actually contribute something instead of criticizing posts which you don't even comprehend, douche drinker

sino8r said:
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
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I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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noodles2224 said:
I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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That's so true... I forgot about that one. It's a pain to put the number in everytime you want to use the walkie talkie app or for looks on sms. I saw the name of the guy who supplied the fix for CM7 but am unsure of his user name on xda... if we could find that out, pm him, and add the fix ourselves to CM6.

Double post.
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The unknown phone number is the only bug in CM 6.1.1. Sure it's fine after you enter it, but you have to do that every time you reboot the phone. I would love to find a fix for that.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!

Because it's old and Gingerbread has everything Froyo has and more? I'm not sure why this is even a question.

Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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You might want to consider the "Stock Gingerbread".
I totally agree with you. Froyo Roms are more stable, has less problems and everything is working. I too enjoy the Virtuous Sense Rom. Everything works, I tried switching over to GB Sense, not so great with the bugs and other faults that I can't easily customize. its pretty saddening that Froyo Roms aren't being supported and updated. Virtuous Sense was one of the greatest Roms I used during my experience with the G2 and when I try some other Rom I always come back to it. Just really wish I knew how to make my own Rom. But as of now, when I just try to compile a APK with XML edits, I can't compile it into binary . If only a the Villian Rom Devs would reopen their Froyo Roms.....
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dustrho said:
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
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What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.

Ashaman_Kupo said:
What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
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GingerVillain is a good GB ROM as it was built off an earlier version of CM7 (before CM7-RC2 was released). Are you having issues with Sense based on Froyo, Gingerbread or both? There are issues with the GB versions of Sense, but the Froyo ones (i.e. Virtuous) all work wonderfully with almost zero issues. I personally haven't experienced any problems with my phone running Virtuous, just the once-in-a-blue-moon unable to wake the phone with the trackpad.

I completely agree with the first paragraph of the OP. I swear, I could have written it myself.
The nerd in all of us wants the "latest and greatest", and that is fully understandable. But the fact of the matter is that GB has not been officially released yet for this hardware. All the custom GB ROMs are ports, and therefore buggy. I tried various CM7 builds for a while, at first I liked CM7. But eventually the minor bugs all got to me, and I'm on to Virtuous (but using ADW EX instead of the Sense launcher).
Aside from the bugs you mentioned, the camera button on CM7 is really laggy compared to Virtuous (or even the stock Desire Z ROM). And the GPS issue is a constant worry to me. I was able to fix it on RC1, RC2 was fine as-is. But the fact that some people have issues, others don't, and it seems to be radio related, has me thinking its a locational problem. And since I travel frequently for work, it has me less than confidant that I will have a working GPS when I really need it.
Also, there is really not a whole lot different in GB aside from some more consistent theming and a better keyboard. Sense already polishes a lot of the ugly theming in Froyo, and I use Swype anyway, so those GB benefits pretty much are moot for me. I'm sure there are performance enhancements and other small fixes in GB as well, but the performance difference seems to be negligible to me.
This is obviously a matter of personal taste. But I don't think the OP is anywhere near alone, judging from the still decent traffic on the Virtuous thread.

Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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I'm sure that eventually there will be an official 2.3 release from HTC/TMO, once that's been made root-friendly that should be more like what you want. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it were already ready to go but is being held back until HTC gets their Sense 2.3 updates ready.

CM7 or Oxygen?

I am wondering what your thoughts are between Oxygen and CM7? I know the technical differences, but I am currently on Oxygen and am interested in changing (for no other reason than to try another ROM!).
But, how do you guys compare the two (those who have used both). Which would you use and why?
Cheers

oxygen is simply android in its purest form
cm7 is a bit modified android, with some really cool tweaks that extend the capabilities of the phone.
only way to find out which suits you better is trying cm7

dzumagos said:
oxygen is simply android in its purest form
cm7 is a bit modified android, with some really cool tweaks that extend the capabilities of the phone.
only way to find out which suits you better is trying cm7
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Heh, yeah, I wanted to do a quick switch and see what suited me, but obviously it takes a while because I have to reflash the correct AlphaRev Hboot (using Oxygen one atm) and then do CM7... then Titanium Backup etc... I need my phone a lot for work, so I don't want to be messing about with it too much.
So I kinda wanted to hear peoples thoughts before deciding whether I wanted to do the switch

Fun fact of the day: You're not the first one with this question.
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961649

oxygen is simply android in its purest form
cm7 is a bit modified android, with some really cool tweaks that extend the capabilities of the phone.
only way to find out which suits you better is trying cm7
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Heh, yeah, I wanted to do a quick switch and see what suited me, but obviously it takes a while because I have to reflash the correct AlphaRev Hboot (using Oxygen one atm) and then do CM7... then Titanium Backup etc... I need my phone a lot for work, so I don't want to be messing about with it too much.
So I kinda wanted to hear peoples thoughts before deciding whether I wanted to do the switch
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Cm isn't bad at all, but cm7 hboot isn' t good enough if you wanna intall lots of apps. I switched to cm some time ago, but when i realized that most of the added features had no use for me i came back: i didn't want a rom too bloated for my needs...o2 imho also has currently better battery life and feels a bit snappier when using lpp (and not only that), thalamus has done some awesome job with the kernel lately.

I tried them both. I liked oxygen more since it has more space and less mods.
At the end I preferred the sense rom of InsertCoin since Sense has a great interface.

I too settled for Oxygen.
Feels faster, simple, great battery life and CM7 didn't have a good danish keyboard dictionary when i tried it

I went oxygen. CM7 had issues with installing apps >5mb and i got lots of random FCs with Facebook, Camera and a lot of other applications. Oxygen has been great.

I'm using CM7. Not the nightly builds. The stable release.
Unfortunately the last version of oxygen I used was a Froyo build. So I can't really compare. I haven't had my phone for almost two months thanks to a faulty mainboard.
I don't have any negative comments towards CM. I think overall stability might be a bit better. They seem to have more developers working on it and pumping out fixes.
Then of course there is Oxygen which is lighter and running the latest version of android (compared to CM stable release). I heard that 2.3.4 fixes some GPS issues. So I'm keen to jump ship.
The only thing stopping me... is being too lazy to setup my phone again.

If you don't mind losing a little bit of data partition, you can just use the CM7 HBOOT for either ROM - Oxygen will work fine with it.

I'm using oxygen and i'm really happy with it. Know it is a small problem, but cm7 had an annoying fileexplorer that gave me some problems. Oxygen is the way to go! Also, for me it is smoother, and i like stock android laucher over adw.
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Check out Cyanogen but don't expect from it too be as fast as oxygen. I liked it.
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oxygen or dev-null all the way cm7 just wasnt as snappy and some of the extras in cm7 are good but youll find yourself not using them. Thalamus's kernels are awesome and oxygen is as stable as can be. Dev-null is even lighter if your feeling adventurous.....

I was usinging an older build of Oxygen and my handset kept rebooting! Would wake up in the morning and the phone would be hung on the boot screen.
Gonna give it another chance though, any more problems and its back to CM7

I <3 OxygeN, the only thing I miss from using Oxygen is 720p recording and widescreen pixtures, apart from that its awesome! Android 2.3.4, stable, fast, no reboots, I've settled on it
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I've found myself always going back to CM7. I've tried Oxygen numerous times, even the new version but it falls short. I've had bugs and all sorts of things but I miss the CM Settings mostly.
Just a hint, DevNull is a pre-release of Oxygen. Just a straight build with just enough development to run on the Desire.

cm7 feels more stable

For pure ASOP, might want to go with Oxygen ROM. Using it now and enjoying it

I prefer Oxygen to CM, but then I also prefer Redux to Oxygen, esp the themed version with the lcd density at 204

i use cm7 for myself, because oxygen is a bit to light. it should be fast and long bat life, but if you turn off all the cool stuff for performance and bat life, you don't need a smart phone and can buy a cheap normal mobilephone ^^

which rom u like best ??

as title which one????

I think the obvious answer here is quarx's CM7
Thats my opinion anyway. But they are all great really. I also like jboogie's liquid arc and barebones but CM7 FTW!

zyxwvut said:
I think the obvious answer here is quarx's CM7
Thats my opinion anyway. But they are all great really. I also like jboogie's liquid arc and barebones but CM7 FTW!
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thanks .i will flash it

Definitely go with CM7, it runs great, and as a bonus, looks great. Minor bugs are easily overlooked. Fantastic ROM overall.
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GoldenStateTy said:
Definitely go with CM7, it runs great, and as a bonus, looks great. Minor bugs are easily overlooked. Fantastic ROM overall.
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absolutely agree, there are some minor bugs, but nothing to worry about. it's way faster than any other rom, looks cool, it's gingerbread, and if something goes wrong, there are many to help you
@GoldenStatyTy: i see your signature, it sais cm7 beta 7.1, i thought it was in beta 6 status, is this correct?? if yes, how/where did you get it?

zakoo2 said:
absolutely agree, there are some minor bugs, but nothing to worry about. it's way faster than any other rom, looks cool, it's gingerbread, and if something goes wrong, there are many to help you
@GoldenStatyTy: i see your signature, it sais cm7 beta 7.1, i thought it was in beta 6 status, is this correct?? if yes, how/where did you get it?
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No, I'm running beta 6, that's an accident. I'm new to CM7 and the Android platform in general! Sorry!
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To my opinion, CM7 beta 6 (waiting for RC) by Quarx, smooth, quick, minor bugs, no way to compare this rom with stock ones

+1! It's really great!

Barebones 1.5.1
I love the fact that it is 'bare' and can be customized as the user wishes.
I've not tried CM7 because the beta status puts me off, plus all the little tweaks and fixes that need to be applied after flashing. Where is beta7 with all the fixes included, or better even RC1?
ATM I'm eagerly awaiting Barebones 1.5.2 or better even, a gingerbread barebones version.

I'm running froyo I've tried to use cm7 but never could get the market to work I installed the correct version of gapps and no market would show so it put me off the whole cm7 If anyone one has suggestions please help

cm7 cool but battery drain faster. second leedroid nosense.. i can use dhd highly usage 1.5days

memz180 said:
I'm running froyo I've tried to use cm7 but never could get the market to work I installed the correct version of gapps and no market would show so it put me off the whole cm7 If anyone one has suggestions please help
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You need to do like this:
boot into custom recovery
wipe/data, cache
install cm7 zip
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Do this all in one session. I think gapps needs to be installed prior to first boot or strange things can occurr

I've only had the official 2.1 and 2.2 non-blur roms before i flashed the leaked 2.3.3 orange rom. Now I have Motoblur on my defy and I still cant figure out why everyone hates Motoblur, It lacks some customization options I agree (miss the abillity to make a shortcut to switch between 2 and 3g), but the social network integration is nice and smart! It automatically syncs facebook with phone numbers, it shows updates from friends on a widget, etc.
Seriously, everything works for me in this rom as far as I know (red lens), only thing I don't like is the camera (never liked it).
What can I do to enhance the camera? 1st of all highest filming resolution is only vga, second problem is a weird distortion when recording. When recording and turning fast it makes the upper part move/adjust faster than the lower part of the film and so I get some weird effect. Its like the upper part is reacting like it should and the lower part just follows after. Quite difficult to explain, I hope someone gets it Any ideas for a fix?

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Do this all in one session. I think gapps needs to be installed prior to first boot or strange things can occurr
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This is the exact method I tried still no good I must be doing something wrong I'm using the cm7 beta 6 and gapps for it and no market then I installed another version of gapps I finally got the market but it would kick me out as soon as I tried to load it up

[Q]Any advice on stable ROMs to look into?

I'm using Salvage Mod right now, and before that I used Fresh EVO for a very long while, but I'm looking to change once more. What I'm looking for is a ROM that is quick, smooth, and has all features working (For example my GPS doesn't work well currently in Salvage Mod). Could anyone recommend me some names to check out?

NewbieX2 said:
I'm using Salvage Mod right now, and before that I used Fresh EVO for a very long while, but I'm looking to change once more. What I'm looking for is a ROM that is quick, smooth, and has all features working (For example my GPS doesn't work well currently in Salvage Mod). Could anyone recommend me some names to check out?
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Synergy RC2. Its fast, stable, and feature rich. I use navigation constantly for work (sometimes up to 20 destinations a day) and its just as good as stock.
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Mym's Warm 2.2
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Watcher07 said:
Synergy RC2. Its fast, stable, and feature rich. I use navigation constantly for work (sometimes up to 20 destinations a day) and its just as good as stock.
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Will definitely be looking into this, thank you!
I was hearing a lot of talk about MIUI so I decided to check that out. It seems...interesting. I'm not sure how I like the removal of the app drawer (Maybe it's back in there now, the video I watched laying out the ROM was months and months old), but it could be worth checking out.
Still open to suggestions. I might end up wiping and flashing a few different ROMs just to get a feel for which I like best.

Sorry I ment Myn's Warm 2.2 get the latest version. It's just like fresh but better
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Synergy was a little boring for me, you're on an AOSP ROM now if you want a good Sense ROM try King's Alliance, lots of themes and such to try. I like EvolvedROM myself and am using the version 2.0. Very quick, nice visuals. If you liked Fresh try Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0

I'll check out Myn's as well. Also, I don't mind staying AOSP. I don't mind not having sense at all. I actually prefer ADW.

synergy rc 2 with my sd card partition everything is running fine.

Enternal prophecy or miui.
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skatrwannabe3 said:
Synergy was a little boring for me, you're on an AOSP ROM now if you want a good Sense ROM try King's Alliance, lots of themes and such to try. I like EvolvedROM myself and am using the version 2.0. Very quick, nice visuals. If you liked Fresh try Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0
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I agree that visually its not great, but there is a fantastic theme made by _Burst_ called plurstaralpha http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149482 that is significantly cool. I very much recommend the theme as I have tried very many roms and themes and this one for as incredibly stable as it is, looks EXCEEDINGLY cool.

I didn't really like MIUI. I then gave Synergy a shot next and I love it. I'm gonna stick with this! Thanks for the help, guys!

I'm sure you have already figured this out, but MIUI doesn't have an application drawer. You can put all items in a folder, and then dock the folder, but it doesn't have a dedicated drawer. It also doesn't contain 4G capabilities.
You were on an AOSP Rom, so I would advice Cyanogen, if you haven't already looked into it. I am currently running their nightly builds (I flash every time they have an update that intrigues me.) and they are working fine. I'm currently on 143 with no issues. GPS works fine, 4G is working, etc. The Rom is very quick, you can install a different launcher if you wish, but it comes with ADW stock. You can flash customer kernels/Ram optimization scripts to make it fly and contain perfect battery life. I also ran RC1 of CM7.1 and it was fine as well, no issues with any of the features. I prefer the nightlies simply because they add new features into it to "test" before they release them into a "stable" version.
I have no objections when it comes to Sense, except for the bloat that it has. My favorite Sense based Rom I ran on here at the moment would have to be Synergy RC2. It was fast and ran fine, however, HTC has yet to drop the source code for their kernel, so you are stuck with their stock one which provides contributes to the already mildly depressing battery life that Sense will give you.
All in all, there are plenty of awesome Roms on here. People can talk all day about why one Rom is their favorite or why they prefer it over another, it all comes down to personal preferences. I would run the suggested ones that seem to interest you and see which ones you like the best.
Hope I helped, even if it wasn't much.

GeneralSky2004 said:
I'm sure you have already figured this out, but MIUI doesn't have an application drawer. You can put all items in a folder, and then dock the folder, but it doesn't have a dedicated drawer. It also doesn't contain 4G capabilities.
You were on an AOSP Rom, so I would advice Cyanogen, if you haven't already looked into it. I am currently running their nightly builds (I flash every time they have an update that intrigues me.) and they are working fine. I'm currently on 143 with no issues. GPS works fine, 4G is working, etc. The Rom is very quick, you can install a different launcher if you wish, but it comes with ADW stock. You can flash customer kernels/Ram optimization scripts to make it fly and contain perfect battery life. I also ran RC1 of CM7.1 and it was fine as well, no issues with any of the features. I prefer the nightlies simply because they add new features into it to "test" before they release them into a "stable" version.
I have no objections when it comes to Sense, except for the bloat that it has. My favorite Sense based Rom I ran on here at the moment would have to be Synergy RC2. It was fast and ran fine, however, HTC has yet to drop the source code for their kernel, so you are stuck with their stock one which provides contributes to the already mildly depressing battery life that Sense will give you.
All in all, there are plenty of awesome Roms on here. People can talk all day about why one Rom is their favorite or why they prefer it over another, it all comes down to personal preferences. I would run the suggested ones that seem to interest you and see which ones you like the best.
Hope I helped, even if it wasn't much.
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Great post! You seem to know your stuff, mate. Well, as much as I love Synergy if the battery life isn't great, then I might have to give it the boot. As for the CM7 nightly builds...what exactly does that mean? Does it mean there will be a new ROM every night that I would have to download and then flash again? Or is it an automatic update that occurs? Or what?

NewbieX2 said:
Great post! You seem to know your stuff, mate. Well, as much as I love Synergy if the battery life isn't great, then I might have to give it the boot. As for the CM7 nightly builds...what exactly does that mean? Does it mean there will be a new ROM every night that I would have to download and then flash again? Or is it an automatic update that occurs? Or what?
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They make a new build of the rom almost every night, adding new features and bug fixes to the rom. You can follow the change log, and download the new rom and flash whenever something interests you. You dont have to wipe data, you can just install over the existing rom without losing your settings, but always make a backup just in case.

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They make a new build of the rom almost every night, adding new features and bug fixes to the rom. You can follow the change log, and download the new rom and flash whenever something interests you. You dont have to wipe data, you can just install over the existing rom without losing your settings, but always make a backup just in case.
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Interesting. Glad to hear that about the data wipe, though. I'm going to have to look into this stuff. Thanks!

Actually, I have one last question! When installing the nightly, do I have to first install the stable version? Or can I just wipe everything and install the 87MB nightly. I ask because 87 megs just seems small for a ROM.

NewbieX2 said:
Actually, I have one last question! When installing the nightly, do I have to first install the stable version? Or can I just wipe everything and install the 87MB nightly. I ask because 87 megs just seems small for a ROM.
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It's 87 Megs because it's Cyanogen. That is exactly why I don't like Sense, due to the "bloat" it gives the Rom. Synergy is about 290MB I believe, Cyanogen is 90MB. Lol the nightlies are the complete Rom, you can wipe and flash them. You don't have to install the stable version first.
Keep in mind, the nightlies do contain issues every once in a while. Like I stated previously, I am on 143 and it is running perfectly for me. I will update once they put an update out that gets me excited.
Edit - You may find this neat, if you like the Sense feel but are on Cyanogen.

GeneralSky2004 said:
It's 87 Megs because it's Cyanogen. That is exactly why I don't like Sense, due to the "bloat" it gives the Rom. Synergy is about 290MB I believe, Cyanogen is 90MB. Lol the nightlies are the complete Rom, you can wipe and flash them. You don't have to install the stable version first.
Keep in mind, the nightlies do contain issues every once in a while. Like I stated previously, I am on 143 and it is running perfectly for me. I will update once they put an update out that gets me excited.
Edit - You may find this neat, if you like the Sense feel but are on Cyanogen.
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I like ADW launcher the most, so I'll be stickin with that bad boy. It's default with CM7 IIRC? That should do it for me. I had no idea Sense took up so much space, though...that is ridiculous.
Since you've got no issues with 143 and have helped me out so much I'll start there if I decide to make the switch. Synergy has some reeally awesome features that I like, but I should be able to part with it if CM7 has it's own weapons. Gonna try to find some videos for it now.
Thanks for all the help, man!

So any roms fully functional?

So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...

kalojado said:
So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.

ThePhantom97 said:
I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I started with aeroevan's CM9 ROM and it was terribly slow and pretty buggy. I had to reboot it at least once a day. I'm now running Psycho's CM10 Global and it's actually been really great, aside from the nonfunctional FFC, graphic tearing with Chrome, and unstable Bluetooth. Also, the CM10 Global ROM has an issue where after locking the phone it will take 1-2 seconds before allowing you to unlock again.

Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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nitsua98 said:
Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...

IC Tazz has been flawless for me. I tried CM9 and CM10 for a few weeks, they work pretty good but are not 100%.

I'm using the new viper Rom. In the past I've always preferred sense tho. Viper is nice. But I prefer my own non sense widgets. So my phone basically looks the same as it did when running cm10. So I'm not sure what the point of staying on viper. Must say battery life is impressive, especially for a sense Rom. Battery life was one reason why I hated sense. But then my phone doesn't really look like sense anyways since I'm using all the same widgets as I did w aosp. *confused*
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kalojado said:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
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No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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nitsua98 said:
No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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Haha, I can understand that. I've only been around this one for the past few months. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I won't forget next time haha

for an ics rom, i gotta say viper sense is the most bug-free. both the ffc camera and rear cameras work fine, and you can shoot fine in 720p HD recording, a problem with many other roms.
this was one of the main problems i had with most CM's and aosp roms was that the stock camera sucked. it didnt even compare to the sense camera and pictures looked they were taken with a basic phone. the viper sense camera was great, maybe even better than stock.
as for bugs, i think the only thing was that taking a picture while recording didnt work, i dont think its supposed to though cuz the inc2 isnt designed for it? also for some reason after a reboot it changed from cdma to gsm, and i think the only way to change that it running the aroma installer again.

I'm no expert or developer but there is quite a few Roms that I have found a pretty stable that could be used as a daily driver with no problem. If you're not rooted I recommend trying it and giving some Roms a test run and seeing what you like before ditching your inc2 its a whole new experience.
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Sadly nit had to pull the ViperINC ROM earlier today due to virtuous teams request... Regarding the use of m10 I think...
Was just about to download and finally move on from GB too...
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are you serious?! i wanted to download that as soon as i got near some reliable wifi. (there's none available where i live so i use wifi tethering)

Fully functional eh? Both dkstunna and Aerovans cm9 & 10 both run nicely. Just have to make some changes depending on your carrier but youll find the solutions by reading the threads. But don't forget most roms are like that woman in the red light district. She's pretty and fun and can do a lot but there is also something under that skirt that is fully functional.
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Currently Running: Mimicry 1.5 w/ vivow-tiamat-ics-031412 Kernel, JB_ADRENO_DRIVERS_V2.ZIP.
It's been a pretty solid experience for a few months now.

Condemned Sense's Stock Build Odexed.

Depends on your definition of "fully-functional." For me that means everything that the stock ROM has including FFC, rotating softkeys, 720P camcorder, wifi-tethering, etc. Most of the ROMS listed (excluding stock ROMS) so far have issues with at least one of these things. I don't consider a mentality of "living with minor bugs" consistent with "fully-functional."
Personally my list would include:
- any of the the "standard" Sense 2.1 Gingerbread ROMs like GingerSense, SkyRaider Zeus, etc. (they all use the official 2.65 kernel specifically built for GB)
- Arctic Ascension 2.02 (aka IC Tazz 3.6) - Sense 3.6 using the leaked Chinese v3.x OTA kernel - everything including the stuff I mentioned works on it. It even includes features not even the stock ROM has such as automatic 3G switching when sending and receiving MMS messages.

Try CM 7.2, it was the first rom i flashed. the battery life is extraordinary and it runs fast like hell! only problem is its a bit old fashioned.
I'm currently running ViperSense 1.1, but its just slightly slow because its using a stock kernel

Thanks everyone for taking the time to give me this information. I have been busy but plan to look into these very soon! Much appreciation!

Miui 1.12.9 with Aerovan's 0.7 CFS kernel.