Little nevous so I have to ask. - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am thinking about rooting using unrevoked 3. I am pretty sure that is strait forward. After that I should install titanium back up and do a nand back up? Then after that I should be able to delete the sense apk and htc lock apk screen and it should be stock vanilla 2.2 right. If I want to restore for a OTA can I just use the nand backup?
Then if I want to try flashing Roms what should I do? Is the Rom manager app all I need?

I usually try to ignore these threads but jesus man read a lill first
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venom_762 said:
I am thinking about rooting using unrevoked 3. I am pretty sure that is strait forward. After that I should install titanium back up and do a nand back up? Then after that I should be able to delete the sense apk and htc lock apk screen and it should be stock vanilla 2.2 right. If I want to restore for a OTA can I just use the nand backup?
Then if I want to try flashing Roms what should I do? Is the Rom manager app all I need?
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OK.
First, wrong section. This should be in Q&A whether anyone responds to it there or not.
Second, Titanium doesn't do NAND backups. That's a job for the recovery.
Third, deleting two apks will not make the ROM "vanilla". It will only mess things up and ruin your experience. If you want "vanilla", there are plenty of AOSP ROMs you can flash after you root.
Fourth, you don't do OTAs after you're rooted. It would unroot you, and you'd have to start all over, and there's no guarantee there would be root available for the new OTA. You should just stick to flashing rooted stock ROMs.
Fifth, I would personally advise against ROM Manager and tell you to learn to do it manually. It's not difficult at all, just a matter of learning a specific sequence of simple steps.
I think that about covers everything. I'm sure someone else will fill in the pieces I've missed.

venom_762 said:
I am thinking about rooting using unrevoked 3. I am pretty sure that is strait forward. After that I should install titanium back up and do a nand back up? Then after that I should be able to delete the sense apk and htc lock apk screen and it should be stock vanilla 2.2 right. If I want to restore for a OTA can I just use the nand backup?
Then if I want to try flashing Roms what should I do? Is the Rom manager app all I need?
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You should probably do some more reading. Titanium back up only backs up apps. If you want a nand back up you do it through recovery. Deleting that stuff does not make it vanilla lol. If you want a vanilla build run a AOSP rom. I don't use Rom manager it crap I flash manually
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Please post your source codes along with the ROM/APP/Development you are doing in this thread.
if not then you realize this is not in the right section. not to be rude but its pretty straight forward with the unrevoked..dont be a ***** and just do it. Otherwise just leave your phone alone.
THIS MIGHT HELP YOU
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/

Google is your friend, learn to use it. Also not trying to scare you, but you could get stuck in bootloops so its better to read everything first then try flashing something.
Your post shows that you are completely clueless, so I really recommend that you read and research before you even attempt to do anything to your device.
Google the following:
1) how to root android
2) how to install custom roms
3) how to use Titanium backup
4) Difference between ASOP and Sense
5) Search in this forum "How to unroot your Evo in two easy steps" if you dont understand or cant follow the instructions there, you may want to reconsider rooting your device. Since if something goes wrong, you will need to unroot the device before taking it to Sprint, etc.
Also dont get offended by these comments because XDA isnt usually like this. But when its very clear that a member hasn't done any research, and expects to be spoonfed all the info, you will get flamed.
How did OP even start this thread in this section? He only has 5 posts... Did the rules change?

wow, my mistake. I'll just stick to Android central.

venom_762 said:
wow, my mistake. I'll just stick to Android central.
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The reason you got the response you did is because you posted in the wrong section. Whike I know you are new to the forum out is always a good idea you read the stickies on any forum you visit.
Tons of new people make the same mistake.i wouldn't let it turn you of but use it as a learning experience.
Xda is an amazing forum (if you are willing to take the time to search post in correct places and do a little work yourself by researching.)
If you aren't willing to do those things then you will find it a cold unfriendly place.
Fort better or worse it is not always newbie friendly. On the plus most of the major developers are here so once you learn you have tons of resources.
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As others have stated previous, irritation arose due to posting in the wrong section (initially) and coming to the table without having first exhausted all resources outside making a new thread (see: Google, searching XDA, other forums, YouTube, even).
There are many guides to help you out there, many on these forums specifically. As one other said previously, as well, don't let this shown irritation from other users discourage you from using these forums. XDA is, by far, the best place regarding the rooting, flashing, development, and customization of our phones. You would be wise to stick around and learn the ropes a bit.
Next time, if you have a question, try posting what you did in the body, explaining what research you have done and what did or didn't work before you decided to post a new thread. This will help others see that you have indeed looked around some and tried some things out instead of rushing to post a new thread without seeing if your question(s) was/were already answered.
Overall, your experience can be very good and you can learn a lot from these forums. I'm still pretty new myself, but I visit these forums every single day and read up on things and just take it all in.
Have fun with everything! If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to help. But do some research before, if you do!

I would suggest reading and asking lots of questions and reading and asking lots of questions and reading and asking lots of questions before doing anything to your phone....
I think all of these responses would make me a little nervous as well...

EndlessDissent -
I have found Rom Manager to be quick and painless, why would you advise against using it?
fyi - I use it w/clockwork recovery instead of Amon-RA. And have downgraded it because of some kind of edify scripting problems. is this less than optimal?

Ok I think I have read all I can and watched all the youtube videos I can handle. It looks pretty strait forward and seems to be easier that the palm pre.
Now can anyone recommend a GB Rom? I would love a pure nexus s expirence. I plan to get it when it comes out.

I would recommend CM7, but some would say no cuz of weird instances that happened to a couple people. Evervolv, Salvage, king's ultra, and miui all have gingerbread though.

venom_762 said:
Ok I think I have read all I can and watched all the youtube videos I can handle. It looks pretty strait forward and seems to be easier that the palm pre.
Now can anyone recommend a GB Rom? I would love a pure nexus s expirence. I plan to get it when it comes out.
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I second CM7. There are thousands of users, thus lots of potential help. It is a ROM that has been for awhile and they have really worked out quite a good percentage of the bugs that will inevitably come with any GB ROM.
Flash CM7 and get a good feel for it before you start hopping ROMs. Also do yourself a favor and make sure you use the search button liberally before you post questions/issues in the CM7 threads and provide some info on what you did to resolve your issues (you will have issues). If you do that the chances you'll get help rather than flames goes up 10,000%.
I would strongly recommend against MIUI. It is unquestionably the best ROM I have ever used, but it is really not a good ROM for an EVO rookie. The quirks in the flashing process are plentiful and the preciseness required by the nature of the ROM will suit you much better a month from now.
I'm sure there will be people who disagree with me, but I help people everyday who would not have needed help if they had learned a little more about the process on a more basic ROM with lot's of support and fewer bells and whistles. Just my two cents.
The options in teh roxxorz's post are good options as well.

teh roxxorz said:
... miui ... gingerbread...
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Here I edited teh roxxorz's post to weed out the erroneous stuff and highlight what's important.

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Need advise or opinions

Ok after browsing all these ROMS and basically starting to get a headache lol, can anyone recommend a rom thats stock froyo (or close to as I use the football app and the nascar app etc) that also allows me to tether wifi. Ive probably looked at over 7 roms maybe more and they all seem custom in some way shape or form which im not interested in. I did look at the stock rooted 2.2 but I dont think it suits my needs, unless theres something im missing about tethering
Tower1972 said:
Ok after browsing all these ROMS and basically starting to get a headache lol, can anyone recommend a rom thats stock froyo (or close to as I use the football app and the nascar app etc) that also allows me to tether wifi. Ive probably looked at over 7 roms maybe more and they all seem custom in some way shape or form which im not interested in. I did look at the stock rooted 2.2 but I dont think it suits my needs, unless theres something im missing about tethering
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Once you are rooted, the wireless tether application for root users will work on every rom. You can use any stock rom of your liking and then add the wireless tether app from the market and you will be all set.
Wow! Seriously?! Why in dev section?! I'm sorry to be rude but I'm getting tired of ppl always posting non-developing stuff on the DEVELOPMENT section. I almost never comment but I'm tired of this.
Please, next time post it on the Q&A section.
Thanks.
Edit: I'll be glad to help if mods move it to Q&A.
Stock froyo like sense 2.2 rooted? There's that option, if you mean like stock android froyo ala 2.2 there is CM6
krazyconejo said:
Wow! Seriously?! Why in dev section?! I'm sorry to be rude but I'm getting tied of ppl always posting non-developing stuff on the DEVELOPMENT section. I almost never comment but I'm tired of this.
Please, next time post it on the Q&A section.
Thanks.
Edit: I'll be glad to help if mods move it to Q&A.
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OP,
I understand your headaches since I am basically wanting the same thing. But after a little looking around, think that the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743352 is what you are looking for. They use to have a thread on just ROMs, how they have been modified, etc.
Also krazyconejo, maybe this is a way for a developer to help out a user? I know that the developers love to have their ROMs used, or at least some input instead of jumping on a guy, maybe you should strongly suggest for future education. Sometimes it is better to coach a fellow member than hit him over the nose with a rolled up news paper (figuritively speaking) - without being disrespectful to you.
Krazy..ive spent the past few hours searching and reading this section of the forums, so excuse me for posting here and upsetting you lol. Since this is a question about ROMS specifically and this section has them all listed, I felt it would be better answered here, then in a general Q&A section. I tend to value the replies I get in a specific forum topic more then a general one
like I said before I usually don't say anything and just ignore it. But if I come to the developing section, I expect to see that and not waste my time with this.
As for OP sorry for being mean but if you would had posted this in the right place, I'm petty sure someone would had helped.
*Not gonna respond anymore. OP if you still help pm me and let's just let this thread die.
Thanks.
if you want the football and nascar app...just flash any rom and install those apks.
Tower1972 said:
... I use the football app and the nascar app etc...
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Sorry, I didn't get past this part. I'm still too busy reeling from the discovery that someone actually uses those two apps to recommend that you use DamageControl 3.5 or something based from it.
Babble0n said:
Sorry, I didn't get past this part. I'm still too busy reeling from the discovery that someone actually uses those two apps to recommend that you use DamageControl 3.5 or something based from it.
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lol.....I concur.
Tower1972 said:
Krazy..ive spent the past few hours searching and reading this section of the forums, so excuse me for posting here and upsetting you lol. Since this is a question about ROMS specifically and this section has them all listed, I felt it would be better answered here, then in a general Q&A section. I tend to value the replies I get in a specific forum topic more then a general one
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This may be true however it is still the wrong place to post this. questions go in questions forum or in the thread of a specific rom/kernal if they pertain to it. since this is a general questions about roms and doesnt fit into a specific rom thread it belongs in the Q&A forum. Most of the people who will give you a true answer from dev also frequently go to the QA section. also yuo will get flamed less and not have to wade through as many posts telling you that you posted wrong.
To answer your question. You can use wifi tether with stock rooted froyo or almost any custom rom. you can still use football/nascar you can try Damage control 3.5 which will let you easily select what you want to have or not of the sprint apps and have the rest removed. you can also use roms like fresh Evio and baked snacks and install the .spk for those 2 apps.
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Baked snack then install nascar and football apk. If you need them im sure they are floating around here somewhere if not pm me.
You could also try fresh. He puts all the apks he removes in a folder on your sdcard.
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lol thanks for all the info...Kinda new to the whole rooting thing and with all the roms flying around and the 100+ pages for each its alot to read over but I tried as much as I could
And yes I am a nascar fan and a football fan..And since Verizon has the good app lol..I use what I got!!!
You could also probably find those .apks by browsing for a folder of the Fresh Removed .apks folder that comes with the Fresh ROM, or just find some Fresh user to upload them for you.
SilverZero said:
You could also probably find those .apks by browsing for a folder of the Fresh Removed .apks folder that comes with the Fresh ROM, or just find some Fresh user to upload them for you.
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I just said that 2 posts up

Porting Roms from *** To the Evo

I assume this is the correct forum otherwise please move this.
What is the best article(s) to read if you want to start learning how to port roms from other android phones to the Evo? I've been searching on here and on google and it seems most articles are either outdated or only talk about editing existing cooked roms so I finally broke down and posted this. Yes I do use Linux and I do program in Java and .NET and do have a bachelors in software development but I have just never looked into doing this type of work until now.
Thank you, any direction I'm pointed in is appreciated.
I'll direct to you the Q&A forum.
Side Note:This goes in General,but im nice so ill answer you question.
There is no real BOOK to read, a java book is a good start, but you say you know java, so you can probably skip that.
Basically, this is all you have to do.
Download "Dsixda's Kitchen" to your linux distro(amazing software)
Grab a rom from another device.
Grab one of our(evo)stock roms(deodexed Stock 3.70 is good for froyo port,4.12 for gingerbread)
Open the kitchen, and find the option(#19 i think it is), and follow the steps to port it(hold on, your not done yet)
From there you will need do some manual work by tinkering with libs,tinkering with the boot.img, bascally just tinkering with everything related to booting(libs,ramdisk,hw-libs,etc.) untill you can get it to boot or bootloop.
If it boots, thats great, if it bootloops, youlle need to logcat it then debug it.
If you need help with something, pm me, other than that, thats basically(*note: i said basic, more complexed roms like sense 3.0 and non-htc device rom may require extra work)(*note2:alot of times, its going to be a no-booter, but just keep trying.)
sirmx said:
I'll direct to you the Q&A forum.
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Thanks sirmx, I did do a search there but again came up short.
ThatSmartB0y said:
Side Note:This goes in General,but im nice so ill answer you question.
There is no real BOOK to read, a java book is a good start, but you say you know java, so you can probably skip that.
Basically, this is all you have to do.
Download "Dsixda's Kitchen" to your linux distro(amazing software)
Grab a rom from another device.
Grab one of our(evo)stock roms(deodexed Stock 3.70 is good for froyo port,4.12 for gingerbread)
Open the kitchen, and find the option(#19 i think it is), and follow the steps to port it(hold on, your not done yet)
From there you will need do some manual work by tinkering with libs,tinkering with the boot.img, bascally just tinkering with everything related to booting(libs,ramdisk,hw-libs,etc.) untill you can get it to boot or bootloop.
If it boots, thats great, if it bootloops, youlle need to logcat it then debug it.
If you need help with something, pm me, other than that, thats basically(*note: i said basic, more complexed roms like sense 3.0 and non-htc device rom may require extra work)(*note2:alot of times, its going to be a no-booter, but just keep trying.)
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Sounds good, what I'll do is go ahead and start one, nothing special maybe even ones that already been done just to get the experience under my best.
ThatSmartB0y said:
Side Note:This goes in General,but im nice so ill answer you question.
There is no real BOOK to read, a java book is a good start, but you say you know java, so you can probably skip that.
Basically, this is all you have to do.
Download "Dsixda's Kitchen" to your linux distro(amazing software)
Grab a rom from another device.
Grab one of our(evo)stock roms(deodexed Stock 3.70 is good for froyo port,4.12 for gingerbread)
Open the kitchen, and find the option(#19 i think it is), and follow the steps to port it(hold on, your not done yet)
From there you will need do some manual work by tinkering with libs,tinkering with the boot.img, bascally just tinkering with everything related to booting(libs,ramdisk,hw-libs,etc.) untill you can get it to boot or bootloop.
If it boots, thats great, if it bootloops, youlle need to logcat it then debug it.
If you need help with something, pm me, other than that, thats basically(*note: i said basic, more complexed roms like sense 3.0 and non-htc device rom may require extra work)(*note2:alot of times, its going to be a no-booter, but just keep trying.)
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Don't forget some of the most important stuff is in the build.prop and update-script.
Word of advice, look at a sense 2.1 and check out the base that was used. You can also use beyond compare and basically skip Linux all together. Using kitchen to deodex the ruu is a good first step. Choose option 11 in the menu.
Personally, I would start off with a working port and changing apps and moving stuff around. Also get a good list at which libs are associated with what. But use stock bins, etc, xbin, hw libs, and ported apks, framework, and software associated libs. Stock boot.img and a good updater-script. Also know key
Things like the EVO density is 160, vold_stab is usb, amkd is rotation, gsl hw accel stuff like that.
But first things first, Google is ur friend and use the q&a section.
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Leoisright said:
Don't forget some of the most important stuff is in the build.prop and update-script.
Word of advice, look at a sense 2.1 and check out the base that was used. You can also use beyond compare and basically skip Linux all together. Using kitchen to deodex the ruu is a good first step. Choose option 11 in the menu.
Personally, I would start off with a working port and changing apps and moving stuff around. Also get a good list at which libs are associated with what. But use stock bins, etc, xbin, hw libs, and ported apks, framework, and software associated libs. Stock boot.img and a good updater-script. Also know key
Things like the EVO density is 160, vold_stab is usb, amkd is rotation, gsl hw accel stuff like that.
But first things first, Google is if friend and use the q&a section.
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ah yes, forgot about build.prop,and i think the kitchen takes care of updater script(unless the device has specific mount pointsor you want text or to clear cache and system). i was just getting the basics to boot, from ther he can debug the errors out of the log.
What about something A LOT simpler like adding the CRT animations to a ROM? any pointers? Any TUT you can point me to?
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ah yes, forgot about build.prop,and i think the kitchen takes care of updater script(unless the device has specific mount pointsor you want text or to clear cache and system). i was just getting the basics to boot, from ther he can debug the errors out of the log.
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Oh I hear ya. Just throwing in my 2 cents. Found that having a clean updater-script is half the battle.
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I'm actually glad this thread is still here we don't get to learn much from the devs here. I mean its mostly do it yourself but a getting started guide isn't a bad thing. Mods are quick to move and people are quick to flame but I say leave it, where else is the knowledge pool? Can you really learn this stuff in Q and A seems like it would be mostly help my phone doesn't boot...
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Check out the APKTool, APKManager threads. Lots of great valuable information in there.
I sometimes wish XDA focused more on the "HOW TO" and less on the delivery aspect. The more folks developing, the further we will be along
Another great way to get started is to mentor with another established developer.
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I'm actually glad this thread is still here we don't get to learn much from the devs here. I mean its mostly do it yourself but a getting started guide isn't a bad thing. Mods are quick to move and people are quick to flame but I say leave it, where else is the knowledge pool? Can you really learn this stuff in Q and A seems like it would be mostly help my phone doesn't boot...
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Well said. People love to flame anyways and XDA is famous among other Android forums for being so harsh. This thread helped me out big time, and it's especially nice to see Leoisright and myn in here giving up a few pointers, because I too was curious about porting. I never worked up the confidence to ask, just too worried about it being passed over or getting flamed because I'm young and curious.
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Yah, Q&A never got me anywhere, i learned off of trial and error, still learning now.
EDIT:OP:IF you want you can ombine mine and leo's tuts together, to make this thread permanent.
Subscribed!!!!!!!!
Good stuff!
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Yeah I want to thank the devs that have stopped by so far and gave tips, already using them . Hopefully most of them drop In at least once and leave one tid bit that would make this thread awesome!
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Ha, you taking applications for an apprentice myn?
myn said:
Check out the APKTool, APKManager threads. Lots of great valuable information in there.
I sometimes wish XDA focused more on the "HOW TO" and less on the delivery aspect. The more folks developing, the further we will be along
Another great way to get started is to mentor with another established developer.
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Yes I was afraid to post this at first which isn't good, you shouldn't be afraid to ask questions but I get that sometimes the same questions have been answered 100 times prior so I understand the quick to judge portion of it. But I want to thank everyone who has contributed tips, advise and places to start. Thank you.
Leoisright said:
Don't forget some of the most important stuff is in the build.prop and update-script.
Word of advice, look at a sense 2.1 and check out the base that was used. You can also use beyond compare and basically skip Linux all together. Using kitchen to deodex the ruu is a good first step. Choose option 11 in the menu.
Personally, I would start off with a working port and changing apps and moving stuff around. Also get a good list at which libs are associated with what. But use stock bins, etc, xbin, hw libs, and ported apks, framework, and software associated libs. Stock boot.img and a good updater-script. Also know key
Things like the EVO density is 160, vold_stab is usb, amkd is rotation, gsl hw accel stuff like that.
But first things first, Google is ur friend and use the q&a section.
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So I've been looking at beyond compare, did you use this from everything and just edit all the non evo files to match existing evo ones from within windows?

Newly rooted...why did I wait 22 months?!?

I hope that I'm not speaking out of turn, but I am unable to post in developer thread...SO...I figure this gives me an opportunity to introduce myself during my probationary period, and maybe bring some entertainment to the community through my adventures as a rooting noob.
First off, I decided to root my Evo 4g which I'd kept updated through every OTA the moment it was released. I thought that was the best way to maintain my device, though after the first Gingerbread OTA...I wasn't so sure. For some reason or another, Sense UI would reboot everytime I clicked on the home button. This was obviously annoying, so I looked for alternative launchers.
The only one that I could find at the time was Launcher Pro. I immediately liked the fact that my device seemed to operate normally again, but I wasn't completely satisfied with the lack of customization options. So through some more OTA updates, I finally got one that fixed my Sense problem.
Fast forward to a week ago...I saw that HTC would not be supporting the EVO 4g with an ICS update, yet xda-developers were all over it. Peace out Sprint-HTC...Hello Rooting Community!
Before I continue this journal...I just want to make sure that the Mods/Admins are cool with a guy that is still figuring things out with rooting his own device, sharing some of the highs and lows of the journey from a stock user...to a Rooted Outlaw!!
spyder3 said:
I hope that I'm not speaking out of turn, but I am unable to post in developer thread...SO...I figure this gives me an opportunity to introduce myself during my probationary period, and maybe bring some entertainment to the community through my adventures as a rooting noob.
First off, I decided to root my Evo 4g which I'd kept updated through every OTA the moment it was released. I thought that was the best way to maintain my device, though after the first Gingerbread OTA...I wasn't so sure. For some reason or another, Sense UI would reboot everytime I clicked on the home button. This was obviously annoying, so I looked for alternative launchers.
The only one that I could find at the time was Launcher Pro. I immediately liked the fact that my device seemed to operate normally again, but I wasn't completely satisfied with the lack of customization options. So through some more OTA updates, I finally got one that fixed my Sense problem.
Fast forward to a week ago...I saw that HTC would not be supporting the EVO 4g with an ICS update, yet xda-developers were all over it. Peace out Sprint-HTC...Hello Rooting Community!
Before I continue this journal...I just want to make sure that the Mods/Admins are cool with a guy that is still figuring things out with rooting his own device, sharing some of the highs and lows of the journey from a stock user...to a Rooted Outlaw!!
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Yeah. Cool, congrats.
But just a word of caution, Developer threads are for developers. That's where ROMs and other software gets posted. So one day, if you are able to post there...do yourself a favor and don't post something like this there. You'll get blasted.
I don't really see a question there which needs to be answered (this is the Q&A forum an all) but I guess it's more appropriate here than in a dev forum. If you want to post in the dev forum, learn to code and write something useful that you want to share.
Am I the only one that has to hit that captcha refresh about a dozen times to find one I can read? lol
Back to where I left off...
So I decided to root my device...starting first with an unrEVOked3 guide. I didn't realize until unrEVOked3 failed to root my device with the message..."Is your device too new?"...that my journey had only just begun. Through a few more failed attempts with unrEVOked, I found myself trying the rEVOlutionary method. Only, I had previously updated my Gingerbread firmware past that point.
5 hours into the process...too much invested to turn back now...must sleep however since it's 5am.
I toss and turn in bed for a good hour, still trying to figure out what to do next. Did I miss a step?
Next night, after a day of staring at my phone and googling "how to root gingerbread evo 4g", I come across the "Rooting Gingerbread for dummies" thread at the Android Forums.
5 hrs later...I'm now rooted, but still watermarked s-on.
What did I do wrong?
Another night of tossing and turning...I must of screwed up one of the Captain Throwback steps...the sun is up, and so is my daughter...I got a couple of hours of sleep. Back to the computer!
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Yeah. Cool, congrats.
But just a word of caution, Developer threads are for developers. That's where ROMs and other software gets posted. So one day, if you are able to post there...do yourself a favor and don't post something like this there. You'll get blasted.
I don't really see a question there which needs to be answered (this is the Q&A forum an all) but I guess it's more appropriate here than in a dev forum. If you want to post in the dev forum, learn to code and write something useful that you want to share.
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Thanks for the insight bro!
Not really trying to write development material yet, just post some feedback to one of the roms I'm trying in that developers thread.
I realized after creating this thread that I was in the Q&A section...lol...oh well, not quite the audience I was looking for, but I'm sure someone will find an answer to their questions through one of my own problems with the process.
Funny
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So I brew myself a fresh pot of coffee and get back to work (playing with my phone)...
Step-by-step I read back through the Captain's instructions...what did I miss? Is it my phone? Do I need to try the TacoRoot method?
when you run the taco root commands it will make your phone very unstable and not useable...
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Uhhh....Alright, back to the Captain!
I'm doing it again...one step at a time. Read everything carefully. No skipping the easy steps that I feel like I've done a dozen times already...adb shell...type EXIT...$
Wait, what? No $, I want #...su...#...cool...EXIT...$?!?
Screw it. The Captain doesn't mention it, so I'm sure it's supposed to happen like that.
Reboot into bootloader...yup, it says locked again...I'm feeling good. Right on track. Why isn't it asking me to update? I never unplugged. The Captain didn't say to unplug...screw it, I'm unplugging. SD card re-mounts..."do you want to start update?"...sweet!
Fast forward through the unrevoked process, and I'm FINALLY rooted!!!
So...now what? lol
I'm gonna Google that..."rooted android now what?" Look at that, someone wrote an article with that same title! Flash Roms, customization, delete bloatware, run root-only apps...
Where to begin...
I first tried the Rom that Captain Throwback has at the end of his thread...I believe MikeG was the developer...CT says with a wink that it will be the last rom I will ever need to flash.
Titanium Backup and Rom Manager are AWESOME programs for the noob rooter. I never felt nervous flashing my first Rom KNOWING that my stuff was backed up, and that someone smarter than me with that device wrote the program that was walking me through the process.
After flashing that first Rom, I was stoked! My phone was running as good as the first day I got it! I immediately starting checking out all of the cool apps that require root access that I could never run before. CPU Master, Wireless Tether, Rom Toolbox...whoa...Rom Toolbox is a kick-ass App! With a capital "A". There is really no need for a few of these other apps that I got since Rom Toolbox does all of that AND MORE.
So I spend about an hour playing with my new apps, and setting up my home screens when I realize...wait a minute...I rooted my phone to get ICS. What am I still doing with froyo?
LOL. Why stop with ICS? you really should try some of the AOSP roms. I am currently running CIUI. very nice smooth rom very lite on space. As for great sense roms... try the Energy sense 3.5 rom release 3/15/12. I used that one and it was awesome but wanted to ditch sense.
dbenney said:
LOL. Why stop with ICS? you really should try some of the AOSP roms. I am currently running CIUI. very nice smooth rom very lite on space. As for great sense roms... try the Energy sense 3.5 rom release 3/15/12. I used that one and it was awesome but wanted to ditch sense.
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I'm done with Sense too. I really like GO Launcher EX. The transition effects appeal to me, and ability to customize nearly everything...icon size, number of pages, item carousel, app folders...I really haven't found something that I want to do that limits me from.
I'll try that Energy sense 3.5 you mentioned though...I'm currently using Alter Rom 0.0.4 pre-release version. It's really nice! Great on battery life, and has that cool TV on/off effect when pressing the power button. I'm still trying to find that option in the settings...lol
Welcome to the dark side... Once you root you never go back to a stock rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424926
this is my current daily driver... i use go launcher also.. This rom has the tv on off effects on power button presses. One thing to keep in mind with any sense 3.5 rom or aosp miui(ciui) have issues wiht sprint VVM... there is a workaround but I opted for the easy route and just switched to google voice.
Glad you finally decided to root, and glad you got through the instructions relatively unscathed.
Enjoy your custom ROMs, and I'm glad to have been of assistance .
Captain_Throwback said:
Glad you finally decided to root, and glad you got through the instructions relatively unscathed.
Enjoy your custom ROMs, and I'm glad to have been of assistance .
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Thanks for writing that guide bro! I thought that all was lost prior to finding it. The step-by-step instructions, complete with screen shots gave me the courage to finally take the leap.
dbenney said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424926
this is my current daily driver... i use go launcher also.. This rom has the tv on off effects on power button presses. One thing to keep in mind with any sense 3.5 rom or aosp miui(ciui) have issues wiht sprint VVM... there is a workaround but I opted for the easy route and just switched to google voice.
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I'm loving this Alter Rom right now!
I might not ever go back to Sense, TBH. I'm still looking for a fully functional ICS rom...I've seen a couple that are getting close. With 20k people online at any given time here, I know it's only a matter of time.
When that time comes, I just hope that it's awesome...lol...it would be a bit of a letdown if after anticipating something so much, it turns out not to be that great. Kinda like going downstairs Christmas morning, and finding a stocking full of tube socks.
If I were you, I wouldn't commit to anything too quickly. As they say, there are a lot of fish in the sea! There are a lot of great Sense ROMs out there. I prefer SOS X Odex. Running great, and active development. That's just me though. A lot of people love CyanogenMod, and I'll surely try CM9. Others like MIUI which offers something closer to an iPhone if I'm not mistaken. Never used it. There is even a nice WM7 ROM I saw, but it's not my thing. Experiment with different combinations of ROMs, kernels, settings, mods, and tweaks.
Brilliancy said:
If I were you, I wouldn't commit to anything too quickly. As they say, there are a lot of fish in the sea! There are a lot of great Sense ROMs out there. I prefer SOS X Odex. Running great, and active development. That's just me though. A lot of people love CyanogenMod, and I'll surely try CM9. Others like MIUI which offers something closer to an iPhone if I'm not mistaken. Never used it. There is even a nice WM7 ROM I saw, but it's not my thing. Experiment with different combinations of ROMs, kernels, settings, mods, and tweaks.
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Good point. I can always restore.
I've been reading a lot about kernels...you can only use certain ones with certain roms though, right?
The next mod I want to try is setting up my sd card to ext4. I've backed up my sd on my PC, but I still think that I want to try it out with a fresh sd. I'm rocking that 8gb sd that came stock with the Evo 2yrs ago...so I'm probably more than overdue to upgrade that anyway.
I'll try those three that you mentioned. Thanks for that!
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Good point. I can always restore.
I've been reading a lot about kernels...you can only use certain ones with certain roms though, right?
The next mod I want to try is setting up my sd card to ext4. I've backed up my sd on my PC, but I still think that I want to try it out with a fresh sd. I'm rocking that 8gb sd that came stock with the Evo 2yrs ago...so I'm probably more than overdue to upgrade that anyway.
I'll try those three that you mentioned. Thanks for that!
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make sure you do the research before you partition that sd card and upgrade it to ext4. I have read, if i remember right that our phones dont support sd-ext4. just remember, with most sense 3.5 or higher roms, you may have trouble finding one that has working WiMax and Sprint VVM. This may have changed, but it was due to no sprint phones having this android version factory installed and they were all ports form other carriers.
spyder3 said:
I'm loving this Alter Rom right now!
I might not ever go back to Sense, TBH. I'm still looking for a fully functional ICS rom...I've seen a couple that are getting close. With 20k people online at any given time here, I know it's only a matter of time.
When that time comes, I just hope that it's awesome...lol...it would be a bit of a letdown if after anticipating something so much, it turns out not to be that great. Kinda like going downstairs Christmas morning, and finding a stocking full of tube socks.
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You might want to check out Swiper's MIUI ICS? It's an aosp rom and it is one of the few stable ICS roms.
To comment on your posting privileges, I too am on my trial basis. But the thing is i'm not a developer but I have been rooting my evo since I got it at it's release. So i know a few things....I hate i can't post on the developers threads I've helped many via private messaging LOL It's frustrating....
started out using synergy/energy roms, (being more familiar with sense), once i downloaded bw, I had no more need for sense.
(Plug for Deck's ics here) once you go ics, you won't go back.
Regarding your question about kernels, just do the obvious and make sure the kernel is made for that rom (sense kernel for sense rom, aosp for aosp). Other than that, if you read through any development thread, you're most likely going to stumble across which kernels are more successful for each rom. It's usually asked by someone.

[Q] Just starting

Hello, i was wondering if i could get some help with answering a few questions i had. In advance i have been using smartphones for some time now but due to lazyness i never really got into rooting and modding them. So as while i am by nature a techy, i still need some things explained. Just some basics about the process, the terminolgy, like CMO9, FD24 so on and so forth, and well just anything about rooting. Im just looking to absorb as much as possible about it so i know what im doing.
The wiki page may be a useful resource.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393699
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Yes that is helpful thank you. I still had some questions concerning exactly what something like CM09 is, i didnt find any references to it on the wiki pages for kernels or roms.
To go from not doing anything with phone modiciation to litterally using ODIN to one click my stock to fd26, and then try to play catch up is a lot of info at one time lol.
Cygnus72 said:
Yes that is helpful thank you. I still had some questions concerning exactly what something like CM09 is, i didnt find any references to it on the wiki pages for kernels or roms.
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CM9 refers to cyanogen mod, its an open source android variant that is developed on multiple phones. Never tried it on this phone yet. Their website is http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ and our thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658
Cygnus72 said:
To go from not doing anything with phone modiciation to litterally using ODIN to one click my stock to fd26, and then try to play catch up is a lot of info at one time lol.
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Addiction starts this way Take your time and read, read, read before you do anything else.
Also search, search and do some more searching... using the search tool at the very top of any XDA page. It's the best tool to find out about something specific. Be super careful, making absolutely certain that anything you plan to use on your phone is for the E4GT (Epic 4G Touch). If you accidentally flash the wrong thing it can go very wrong.
So, like SomeGuy said, do a LOT of reading.
tdunham said:
Also search, search and do some more searching... using the search tool at the very top of any XDA page. It's the best tool to find out about something specific. Be super careful, making absolutely certain that anything you plan to use on your phone is for the E4GT (Epic 4G Touch). If you accidentally flash the wrong thing it can go very wrong.
So, like SomeGuy said, do a LOT of reading.
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This is exactly right I spent about 3 days doing research before I flashed and in the end I still ended up almost bricking my phone. I accidentally flashed a ROM for the gt I9100 and the computer would not recognize the phone and in recovery I could not aces my SD card but luckily I was able to Odin back to stock!
Ya i was able to flash it successfully. Got 4.0 on it with fd26 and nova launcher instead of touch wiz, because thats junk in my opinion. Seems to be working just fine, no sms, gps or 3g issues thus far. Video is kinda glitchy on playback within the phone doenst scale right to the orientation of the phone

[Q] Proper flashing instructions please?

Can someone PLEASE post some actual, detailed, step-by-step instructions on how to flash a ROM on the DHD?
All I ever seem to read are "instructions" that don't tell me how to do some or most or even all of the steps it wants me to do.
For example, a lot of instructions tell me to "do a NANDroid backup" or "wipe data" or "flash the rom" and then proceed to not tell me how to do any of that. The authors mostly assume that the reader knows how to do all the steps. Can you not be that guy and actually give us a step-by-step set of instructions and don't leave anything out? In plain English please.
Those are all options in recovery. The problem with a precise step-by-step is that every recovery has those options in different places. I would recommend that you do what the rest of us did: poke around whichever recovery you have installed; they're all there somewhere in the menus. It shouldn't take long, and you'll soon figure everything out.
I believe that the majority of the guides are good and have had a lot of work put into them, they are all written to do a technical thing and as such, this is where you or any other user is required to do some work too, by searching, (one of the xda rules btw) reading and learning the things needed to mess around with your phone.
I personally was reading up the threads on xda developers for 3 months or more, every day, before even contemplating touching my phone, or even posting anything on xda developers!
With all due respect, at the end of the day you are the one that is going to be messing with your phone, modifying it, flashing it and all the things that go with it, I doubt any one from xda is going to come over to your place, look over your shoulder and tell you step by step what to do?
I also think it's quite a bit of an insult to those people who have already done the hard work and spent their personal time learning and writing those guides to help every one, who may not be not quite as technically minded to do stuff.
Rant over
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ranger4740 said:
I believe that the majority of the guides are good and have had a lot of work put into them, they are all written to do a technical thing and as such, this is where you or any other user is required to do some work too, by searching, (one of the xda rules btw) reading and learning the things needed to mess around with your phone.
I personally was reading up the threads on xda developers for 3 months or more, every day, before even contemplating touching my phone, or even posting anything on xda developers!
With all due respect, at the end of the day you are the one that is going to be messing with your phone, modifying it, flashing it and all the things that go with it, I doubt any one from xda is going to come over to your place, look over your shoulder and tell you step by step what to do?
I also think it's quite a bit of an insult to those people who have already done the hard work and spent their personal time learning and writing those guides to help every one, who may not be not quite as technically minded to do stuff.
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The reason I asked this question here was that if I ask for this any thread that is for a specific ROM for a specific phone, I get the what I described above: A either a long general "guide" that doesn't tell me how to do what I need to do on the phone I want to do it on, or a "guide" that assumes I know how to do each step in the process.
Look, I don't have time to devote hours and hours and hours to studying all this. If you do, that's great but I do not. If flashing the ROM is as simple as it is made out to be, why can't somebody make a youtube video that spells it out in plain English? It would be a lot clearer and a lot easier to understand. How hard would it be to make a simple you-tube video that walks the user through all the steps?
I would like to ask a question..
Currently
Desire HD.. shipped stock with Froyo
Currently latest bootloader (.29 if i remember right)
HTC Dev Unlock
JellyTime ROM
but GPS dont work due to radio (dont show even notification icon)
Fix is to flash radio.. but I dont have a S-OFF.. (not Radio or even ENG S OFF)
Would like to ask.. what to do?
Everything i want is quick steps.. like.. go back to stock rooted rom.. do with aahk unlock (S OFF Mainly!) and then flash radio and restore Jelly Time rom?
BlackRainX said:
I would like to ask a question..
Currently
Desire HD.. shipped stock with Froyo
Currently latest bootloader (.29 if i remember right)
HTC Dev Unlock
JellyTime ROM
but GPS dont work due to radio (dont show even notification icon)
Fix is to flash radio.. but I dont have a S-OFF.. (not Radio or even ENG S OFF)
Would like to ask.. what to do?
Everything i want is quick steps.. like.. go back to stock rooted rom.. do with aahk unlock (S OFF Mainly!) and then flash radio and restore Jelly Time rom?
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If GPS was working on stock rom, then radio is not the issue. Might be the set up...have you check the A-GPS fix??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252011
I will send you my radio version right? it worked fine on stock rom.. (2.3.5 Sense 3.0 RADIO: 12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M - HTC 3.12.405.1 WWE (Stock ROM)
S_Sarge said:
Look, I don't have time to devote hours and hours and hours to studying all this. If you do, that's great but I do not. If flashing the ROM is as simple as it is made out to be, why can't somebody make a youtube video that spells it out in plain English? It would be a lot clearer and a lot easier to understand. How hard would it be to make a simple you-tube video that walks the user through all the steps?
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Probably not super hard, but since no one has posted one, and many people have figured it out themselves with the available resources, I can only assume two things.
1. People find their own time, which they would spend making your custom single-use video, as precious as you find your own time, which you refuse to spend doing a little research. Since it is you who wants to mess with your phone, if you want to mess with it, that time expenditure is on you.
2. Since others have figured it out themselves with the resources available, the research isn't hard and most certainly will not take hours and hours (unless you are not a native English speaker, which it looks like you are).
Note that like I already said, such instructions are recovery-dependent anyway.
S_Sarge said:
The reason I asked this question here was that if I ask for this any thread that is for a specific ROM for a specific phone, I get the what I described above: A either a long general "guide" that doesn't tell me how to do what I need to do on the phone I want to do it on, or a "guide" that assumes I know how to do each step in the process.
Look, I don't have time to devote hours and hours and hours to studying all this. If you do, that's great but I do not. If flashing the ROM is as simple as it is made out to be, why can't somebody make a youtube video that spells it out in plain English? It would be a lot clearer and a lot easier to understand. How hard would it be to make a simple you-tube video that walks the user through all the steps?
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Steps to follow are usually detailed in the each rom's thread....there are no secrets about how to do that, boot in recovery and do all the wipes. You in fact have lots of tutorials in you tube, so you are not right about saying that no one has done that...I actually did one and so have many others...instead of demanding people to do things easier for you, you can do a google search and you will find lots of stuff.
http://goo.gl/sfR7W
but take into consideration that a tutorial might not be precise in all matters and you can miss something for not reading. The starter guide I wrote has 8 pages and might take you to read about 15 minutes, don't you think that is worth to "waste" 15 minutes instead of risking your device?
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bananagranola said:
...since no one has posted one
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glevitan said:
http://goo.gl/sfR7W
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Eating my words.
bananagranola said:
Eating my words.
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lol, that is not posted here. And you know what XDA dev's think about video tutorials...but they do exist.
Thread closed
A short memo to the OP: There are dozens of tutorials for flashing roms here. And thousands of users managed to flash with them. If you (as you say) don't have the time to look and read, why should anybody waste his time to make you another one? To support your lazyness? You were already warned by another moderator to show some respect and invest some time to understand.
If you really don't have the time to read and learn, then the best solution might be: you stay on stock rom :laugh:. You are warned. We will not accept that attitude another time.
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