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SO i finally decided to root my phone but i have a couple questions. my phone is pretty dam customized an di spent several hours doing it (ie- installed programs, have game save files, custom, desktops, ringtone, alerts, accounts, facebook contacts linked with gmail contacts...)
so first question- using backup pro or any other backup program if a backup is created once the phone is rooted can i run the restore to get all my programs and settings back?
also i know to root your phoen you need to overwrite the sd card. if i copy all my info off the sd card, can i copy it right back once the root is complete (ie- pics, game saves...)
anything esle i should know before rooting.
fyi- i have worked for several tyears as a windows,systems/network admin, so the technical part of rooting is not my question is the backup and recovery of the programs and settings and such
thanks in advance
I am not an expert but maybe this answer can help.
As far as backing up and restoring, u should be fine with whatever program u use. Rooting just gives u super user access to the root directory, but doesn't actually overwrite anything that would prevent u from restoring programs u had backed up. Installing a custom rom however is more of re-writing of the underlying software, which then forces you to put a lot more effort back into restoring (i.e. home screen layout, widgets,...).
As far as your sd card, I didn't have to wipe or reformat mine when I rooted. In fact I am using the same card I had in my moto droid. I may have formatted to fat32 at one point back then, but I do not recall having to re-wipe when rooting my Dinc.
Hope this helps.
P.s. I also recommend switching to titanium backup once rooted. It is by far the best backup and restore utility out there. Also, u may want to post questions like this in the proper forum, not the dev forum. People tend to get peeved by improper posting.
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thanks
I'll repost in the correct spot. dont wanna ruffle any feathers. ya know its just i put so much work into customizing the phone i dont want to have to redo it. but as long as i document what i have done i should be able to redo it all myslef if the backup fails. the program i use it mybackup pro btw
All the back up apps require root. Rooting will not delete any of your data. Root and do a nandroid
Not all backup apps require root, just the better ones. I like titanium because it will save your customizations as well as your apps.
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so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
thanks
I'm not a pro at this stuff but from my experience your worrying about stuff you really don't need to at this point. Rooting itself isn't gonna delete anything. It's just gonna give you more access to your phone. You still have the same radio, same hboot, and same OS version and kernel.
All I'm saying is download unrevoked3, root your phone, then first thing do a nandroid backup and boom your backed up. And after you boot it up download Titanium Backup and start backing up.
shehababbassi said:
so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
Not sure exactly what you're looking for, but if it's to transfer all the files from your sd card to your computer, wipe & format and then re-add, then it depends on your computer. I have a mac so I save a backup copy of my sd card on my desktop by mounting my phone as a disk drive when I plug it in, and then drag and drop all the files I want to save (or transfer to my phone). This will also transfer your backup files as well (assuming they are being saved to your sd card).
Eno is right though, you are getting ahead of yourself right now.
Root, do a nandroid backup, get titanium and then have fun with your newly rooted phone.
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I have also been backing up my texts with SMS Backup. I haven't had any luck with just restoring data from titanium. But as they're saying, root is really the first step.
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Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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HarrisonBP said:
Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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Every time I flash a new Rom I do sms backup and restore, call log backup and restore, and apn backup and restore. All of which are from the same dev. Call logs backup and restore is what you are looking for but an apn backup is always handy.
Currently I'm using Myn's TwoPointTwo Rom, which is a Froyo custom ROM. Now that the official GB ROM is out, I'm thinking of upgrading the ROM to something that is based on GB (Kingdom REVOlution perhaps). However, I get the feeling that it's not as easy as reflashing one Froyo ROM to another.
So, regarding that issue, I have 3 questions:
1. Is there any difference or additional steps for Froyo->GB that was not in Froyo->Froyo process?
2. I'd like to keep my contacts/messages/WhatsApp & KakaoTalk chat content/etc. Would Nandroid Backup guarantee this?
3. Would it be possible to go back to Froyo if anything goes wrong?
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Currently I'm using Myn's TwoPointTwo Rom, which is a Froyo custom ROM. Now that the official GB ROM is out, I'm thinking of upgrading the ROM to something that is based on GB (Kingdom REVOlution perhaps). However, I get the feeling that it's not as easy as reflashing one Froyo ROM to another.
So, regarding that issue, I have 3 questions:
1. Is there any difference or additional steps for Froyo->GB that was not in Froyo->Froyo process?
2. I'd like to keep my contacts/messages/WhatsApp & KakaoTalk chat content/etc. Would Nandroid Backup guarantee this?
3. Would it be possible to go back to Froyo if anything goes wrong?
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1) No, not really at all. Some of the 'larger size' sense gingerbread roms are such big files, that it works out better if your sd card is partitioned to ext2 or ext3. However, that is NOT necessary, and you can flash the rom without partitioning the card. Also, if you choose not to partition your sd card, some of the larger roms may leave you with less space available to install apps
2) The easiest way to keep your contacts backed up is to keep them synced with your google account. If you're unsure if they're saved as google contacts, the quickest way to check is to sign into your gmail account on a computer, and then in the upper left side, click on 'contacts'. If your contacts are there, then you're good. They'll automatically restore when you sign into google on your phone. If they're not backed up as google, or if you don't want to back them up to google, then you can export them to your sd card. To do that, go to your contacts/people app. It menu, then choose import/export, then export to sd card. That will save them to your sd card, and at a later time when you flash the new rom, you can do the same thing, but choose 'import from sd card' and that will restore them. When you restore them, it asks you if you want to save as google as phone, so you can choose google at that time if you'd like to. I never save my SMS messages, but if you need to, there is an app that I know works from the market, called SMS Backup +restore. Try that out. To save the apps you want to and their data, I would suggest using Titanium Backup. That will backup the app and the data (your settings/content within the app). The nandroid backup will backup your entire rom. The way your phone is when you create the backup, is the EXACT way it will restore.
3) Absolutely
I suggest trying MikG 1.03 or one of the Synergy betas (myn, aamikam, virus, incubus26, djzager,'s project.)
Good luck
Thank you, it really helped a lot!!
Hi all, hope this is in the right section.
I rooted my Desire last night using unRevoked 3.3 with the intention of removing all the bloatware on my phone and forcing most of the apps onto the sd card.
My phone seems to have rooted fine, i have the Superuser Permissions application on there, and Titanium backup pro seems to be working too.
Now when i use Titanium backup to try and remove programs such as Stocks, News and Weather, News etc... I click on the app in the list, click un-install and then it tells me its uninstalled. However the apps still appear in my menu and are still there following a reboot. Ive also tried another method using Super Manager and that doesent seem to work either. The apps are still there following them being 'uninstalled'.
Also, similar situation with the SD card, i downloaded Move2SD enabler and that doesent seem to let me move certain apps like Maps, Facebook and others.
Any idea where im going wrong? Im on stock 2.2. My phone is in debug usb mode too.
Any help would be great.
Cheers
The apps you want to remove/move are system apps in stock roms. So you cannot do such things, because you are not s-off. But you might be able to do the things you want with adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
How to install adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK
Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.
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Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.
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He did not flash a rom. He is just using stock rom. There is nothing to delete from a zip file, because there is no zip file he wants to flash.
Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.
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Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.
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Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
To remove system apps in running system with an app, you have to be s-off.
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Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
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I guess you know better than him, fine.
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I guess you know better than him, fine.
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It was just a clue, had nothing to do with knowledge.
Nevertheless, we should stop filling this thread with our senseless discussion.
haha thanks for the responses guys!
ive been looking at all the custom roms and whilst most of them look pretty cool, im quite happy with whats already on there at the moment, im just bored of seeing my phone telling me i dont have enough internal space etc... so i wanted to root and move as many apps onto the sd card as possible and delete all the unwanted stuff that im constantly closing in taskiller.
i did read something about putting the phone into s-off mode, i guess this is the way to go in regards to deleting the unwanted system apps?
also i believe that i cannot move facebook or google maps onto the sd card, am i correct?
Best option is flashing custom ROM, you could remove any apps you want from the flashable .zip file, and give you an unlimited storage for apps - A2SD. (well limited by SD Card capacity)
You can also S-OFF and remove apps you dont want, but it will barely help as you will probably still run with "low internal storage" errors at some point.
Also with stock ROM you are running, most apps wont be able to move onto SD anyways.
There are custom rom's based on Froyo 2.2 if you like it.
i guess i will look into flashing a ROM. i didnt really want to do that as i didnt want to have to reinstall everything etc... but i guess its the only way i will be satisifed lol.
Just make backup with Titanium Backup and then restore it.
How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
Also, any new contacts I add are never saved in my google sync..I sync every new number to google contacts but whenever I install a new ROM they are never saved in there..whats the deal?? Are there other ways to save so this doesnt happen?
Last issue is w/ROMs...Pretty much no roms work anymore...before it was only a few that didnt work. But now none of them work. I tried the latest of 10 ROMs and some cant even load while others load and hang at the white HTC screen...The only ROM that works is MIUI...what happened all the sudden??
Now with MIUI how do I change CPU settings? I dont see any section for this like in CM7...? Anyone
Pivo187 said:
How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
Also, any new contacts I add are never saved in my google sync..I sync every new number to google contacts but whenever I install a new ROM they are never saved in there..whats the deal?? Are there other ways to save so this doesnt happen?
Last issue is w/ROMs...Pretty much no roms work anymore...before it was only a few that didnt work. But now none of them work. I tried the latest of 10 ROMs and some cant even load while others load and hang at the white HTC screen...The only ROM that works is MIUI...what happened all the sudden??
Now with MIUI how do I change CPU settings? I dont see any section for this like in CM7...? Anyone
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When adding a contact make sure the contact type is google and not phone.
The apps you can't take then from rom to Rom your always going to have to reinstall them
Make sure you are wiping everything except sd card. and that you ARE NOT USING CLOCKWORKMOD
MIUI you have to use setcpu it doesn't come with the option built in
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How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
Also, any new contacts I add are never saved in my google sync..I sync every new number to google contacts but whenever I install a new ROM they are never saved in there..whats the deal?? Are there other ways to save so this doesnt happen?
Last issue is w/ROMs...Pretty much no roms work anymore...before it was only a few that didnt work. But now none of them work. I tried the latest of 10 ROMs and some cant even load while others load and hang at the white HTC screen...The only ROM that works is MIUI...what happened all the sudden??
Now with MIUI how do I change CPU settings? I dont see any section for this like in CM7...? Anyone
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You REALLY need to click the link in my sig and read the Evo guide. All your answers are in there
evo4gnoob-Like I said in my post I use Google every single time...But whenever I do a flash from a previous ROM where I saved several new #'s the new #'s are never saved...?? Is there a more full proof way?
So when I move them to SD card that is merely saving me space on my phones internal storage by moving it to SD storage & not a backup so I dont need to keep reinstalling?
What is wrong w/ CLOCKWORKMOD? That is what I have been using...What else is there
How do I move apps to my SD card so I dont need to reinstall them everytime I use a new ROM? I tried moving manually by checking move to SD but it didnt move anything...
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That doesn't actually move the app to the card, just the app's data, which is wiped when flashing a new rom. You need to use Titanium Backup to fully backup apps.
Like I said in my post I use Google every single time...But whenever I do a flash from a previous ROM where I saved several new #'s the new #'s are never saved...?? Is there a more full proof way?
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Login to your gmail on a computer and see if the contacts are there. If they are, then they are synced. You can also export the contacts to the sd card in the People app.
So when I move them to SD card that is merely saving me space on my phones internal storage by moving it to SD storage & not a backup so I dont need to keep reinstalling?
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Again it's not a backup, the os just moves the app's data to the card, not the app itself
What is wrong w/ CLOCKWORKMOD? That is what I have been using...What else is there
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Nothing wrong with clockwork. Some people just prefer to use AmonRA
MOST people prefer Amon Ra. CWM has a lot of limitations
Everything worked fine before...now no roms will work besides MIUI..maybe its a sign I should stick to MIUI lol...Im just worried that if miui wont load then Im screwed w/o any ROMS being able to work...
Pivo187 said:
Everything worked fine before...now no roms will work besides MIUI..maybe its a sign I should stick to MIUI lol...Im just worried that if miui wont load then Im screwed w/o any ROMS being able to work...
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This just sounds like you're not wiping fully or that your recovery isn't working properly.
Download and flash Amon Ra. There's a newer one out that I'm going to flash once my battery dies and I have to switch batteries, it's version 3.08 and not the original. Since i haven't tried it yet I can't vouch for it, but version 2.3 has served me well for a long time. The file must be named PC36IMG.zip exactly and on the root of your SD card. Boot into hboot and it'll scan, find the file, and ask you to update - do so.
Once you've flashed either version of Amon Ra, do a nandroid backup. Then go to the wipe menu and wipe cache, data, dalvik, .android_secure, SD-ext, boot and system. Wipe them again. Then flash whatever rom you want and see what happens.
If you want to save your apps and their data, use Titanium Backup. Just don't restore system data across roms, only the apps you've installed.
As for the contacts problem, double check your sync settings. You can expert your contacts to your SD card then import them if you continue to have problems. On MIUI, open the contacts app, then menu, settings, export contacts, export to SD card. You should be able to import them on another rom.
You can download Amon Ra directly from these links-
Version 3.08 here: http://db.tt/YULEfMz2
Version 2.3 here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
Only choose one. Both are already named correctly, so don't rename the file. I've heard great things about the new one, so I'd try that one first. From what I read in the thread it can restore ClockworkMod backups, so that's a plus for you. I'd still make a backup with this recovery before wiping just in case.
Good luck, let us know how it goes!
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I used to have this problem to. After flashing amon 2.3 recovery and wiping everything accept SD card, everything was fine
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Hey all,
Could do with some advice.
I've just bought a new 32GB SD card for my play as wanting to get more into emulators and games.
At the moment got a 16GB split in 2 with Link2SD having an app partition.
So I know I need to use Linux to back up both partitions as windows only sees my data partition.
However while I'm going to do this I'm quite tempted to flash a new ROM and kernel. Thinking of doing the ICS ROM to help with testing.
But I want to make sure I don't lose anything.
I've done back ups of my apps on titanium, app backup and restore also backs ups my new instals.
I'm just a bit worried for my games such as Dead Space etc that I got free from gameloft.
If I install a new ROM will these install again? Anyone any advice to make sure I don't lose them?
Thanks everyone