Hello all,
I currently am running Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 (but tried Fresh 3.5.0.1 as well) and am having problems with very slow wireless tethering on 4G. If I run a speed test on my tethered laptop, I will be lucky to hit 1Mbps. However, on the phone (even if tethering is turned on) a speed test will yield about 5-6Mbps. For some reason it's as if the tethering speed is being throttled down to 3G speeds even though I'm connected to 4G.
I've tried various versions of the Wireless Tether app, and even the "fix" (deleted the fixroute.sh file) and still no luck. Other people are also reporting this problem here - EVO slow tether - Android Forums
I was just hoping perhaps someone could shed some light on this issue.
Thanks.
link00seven said:
Hello all,
I currently am running Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 (but tried Fresh 3.5.0.1 as well) and am having problems with very slow wireless tethering on 4G. If I run a speed test on my tethered laptop, I will be lucky to hit 1Mbps. However, on the phone (even if tethering is turned on) a speed test will yield about 5-6Mbps. For some reason it's as if the tethering speed is being throttled down to 3G speeds even though I'm connected to 4G.
I've tried various versions of the Wireless Tether app, and even the "fix" (deleted the fixroute.sh file) and still no luck. Other people are also reporting this problem here - EVO slow tether - Android Forums
I was just hoping perhaps someone could shed some light on this issue.
Thanks.
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Before today, I was one of those people who used the Wireless Tether app often. I had awful DSL internet service and tethering wireless via 4G was a GODsend. The speeds I were getting was comparable to typical 4G speeds. I posted a speedtest a while back in the Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5 thread, if I'm not mistaken. I may try searching for it a little later. Anyway, I cannot explain why you're tethering very slowly. That has never been my experience. Without offending you, are you basing those slow speeds ONLY on speedtest results? If so, please keep in mind that those tests are, in my opinion, inconclusive. Are the tethering speeds you're experiencing satisfying to your real life surfing needs? If they are, disregard speedtest results and enjoy the fact that you can tether multiple devices for FREE.
dougjamal said:
Before today, I was one of those people who used the Wireless Tether app often. I had awful DSL internet service and tethering wireless via 4G was a GODsend. The speeds I were getting was comparable to typical 4G speeds. I posted a speedtest a while back in the Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5 thread, if I'm not mistaken. I may try searching for it a little later. Anyway, I cannot explain why you're tethering very slowly. That has never been my experience. Without offending you, are you basing those slow speeds ONLY on speedtest results? If so, please keep in mind that those tests are, in my opinion, inconclusive. Are the tethering speeds you're experiencing satisfying to your real life surfing needs? If they are, disregard speedtest results and enjoy the fact that you can tether multiple devices for FREE.
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None taken mate - to be honest I probably haven't really used it enough just yet to say one way or another. In Metro Detroit, one of the first 4G towers just went online at Wayne State University, where I happen to go to school. So the last couple days I've been using it and today tried tethering to my laptop for the first time. I did use a couple different speed test applications, and found that on the phone I could consistently get 4-6Mbps, whereas on my computer the speed test was averaging closer to 1Mbps. Significantly slower, so I did a little research on it and found that others were also having the same issue (hence the thread I linked in my first post). I'd test it more, but at home I don't have 4G access, just at school.
However, the little bit of basic surfing that I did seemed fine, and perhaps even if for whatever reason I'm not getting the speeds advertised, it still was very much usable. I did not mean to sound ungrateful by any means and am just thrilled to see a sign of 4G around here. Tethering isn't even something I would probably be doing all that often, as WSU has wifi everywhere, and my internet at home is quite solid.
I only posted to see if anyone on here had similar issues and if there was a solution, and to perhaps help others that may also be having issues with 4G wireless tethering.
For some reaason I never liked wireless and have been using usb. I might have an issue with my laptp but can not be sure. I like CM7 GB it seems to switch between 3G and 4G where the other roms did not, Do any of the thether aps 2 google code work any differently?
link00seven said:
None taken mate - to be honest I probably haven't really used it enough just yet to say one way or another. In Metro Detroit, one of the first 4G towers just went online at Wayne State University, where I happen to go to school. So the last couple days I've been using it and today tried tethering to my laptop for the first time. I did use a couple different speed test applications, and found that on the phone I could consistently get 4-6Mbps, whereas on my computer the speed test was averaging closer to 1Mbps. Significantly slower, so I did a little research on it and found that others were also having the same issue (hence the thread I linked in my first post). I'd test it more, but at home I don't have 4G access, just at school.
However, the little bit of basic surfing that I did seemed fine, and perhaps even if for whatever reason I'm not getting the speeds advertised, it still was very much usable. I did not mean to sound ungrateful by any means and am just thrilled to see a sign of 4G around here. Tethering isn't even something I would probably be doing all that often, as WSU has wifi everywhere, and my internet at home is quite solid.
I only posted to see if anyone on here had similar issues and if there was a solution, and to perhaps help others that may also be having issues with 4G wireless tethering.
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I completely understand and thank you for the reply, sir......Enjoy your day.
conductive said:
For some reaason I never liked wireless and have been using usb.
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I understand and if tethering via USB is more comfortable for you than tethering wirelessly, so be it. It's your prerogative.
I might have an issue with my laptp but can not be sure. I like CM7 GB it seems to switch between 3G and 4G where the other roms did not, Do any of the thether aps 2 google code work any differently?
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Every rom that I've used that allows me to use the 4G function have all automatically switched back & forth between 3G & 4G depending on the strength of the 4G signal or your location in regard to a 4G area. That is normal and the app is irrelevant. I hope I didn't misunderstand your post....
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I completely understand and thank you for the reply, sir......Enjoy your day.
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Thanks, you too.
I haven't tried USB tethering with 4G yet, but one of the main draws for wireless tethering for me would be so I could use it on my iPad, as I only have the wifi iPad.
link00seven said:
Thanks, you too.
I haven't tried USB tethering with 4G yet, but one of the main draws for wireless tethering for me would be so I could use it on my iPad, as I only have the wifi iPad.
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It will indeed work, my friend. I've tether my MacBook and y daughter's iPhone4 in addition to the other wireless device in the house and they all performed without a hitch. Now that I have my Roadrunner service, I doubt I'll use it as much....Take care and enjoy your day...
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So I just moved to a new apartment and haven't hooked up internet access yet. How realistic would it be for me to avoid getting the usual cable internet setup that people in my area normally get and just use an Evo as the network router for all my devices. My home network includes a few laptops, a desktop, a networked hard drive, and a few old cellphones that I use to connect via wifi to play music and browse internet. Does anyone have real world experience to share about how these types of setups have been working with the Evo's hotspot feature. And is it even possible for me to incorporate my networked hard drive into this kind of network as it is not wifi - only ethernet? How could I get it included? Sorry for such a noob question. I would love to stop giving my money to Time Warner and just have one phone/internet bill to pay.
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cmus
Well that depends so much on the coverage of your area. If you don't get 4g coverage in your apartment you would be using 3g for all of your devices and that isn't going to cut it for most people. I mean it is fine for surfing the web but not for something like streaming or gaming. Plus your 3g signal could be week and you wouldn't get very good speeds period. You can check coverage maps but even then you won't know exactly until you test it out yourself....
Definitely doable if you're not a gamer and assuming your signal is strong. Its the latency that kills it for you if you are a gamer.
One of the bigger Qs I wonder about is how hot will the device get when trying to supply other devices with 3g/4g.
I know my current WiMo will over heat when doing wmTorrents and I have to take the back cover off and sit it in front of my fan on my desk at work.
currently im using Touch Pro, and when i do wifi teathering the phone gets so hot that it shuts off charging after about 60mins, and then runs on battery power for another 20 mins or so... hopefully evo will handle the wifi-teather load better that this.
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currently im using Touch Pro, and when i do wifi teathering the phone gets so hot that it shuts off charging after about 60mins, and then runs on battery power for another 20 mins or so... hopefully evo will handle the wifi-teather load better that this.
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Haha I use to turn my touch pro face down and put a glass with ice water on top.
The cool condensation would keep it from overheating and thus ruining my fun.
Ah , the good ol' days. Can anyone tell me why the touch pro could do wifi tethering and not the Evo? Is it android fault or the fault of the phone????
hmm, so this does not sound good. Between possible overheating issues and latency this is not something that most people seem to be excited about doing?
How about the network itself. Does using the Evo as a hotspot allow my laptops to talk to each other via a LAN or does the Evo only share the internet connection with all the connected devices? For example, if I have a hard drive full of music on one computer, can I share that folder and stream it on a second computer if both computers are connected to the Evo?
howdyace said:
Haha I use to turn my touch pro face down and put a glass with ice water on top.
The cool condensation would keep it from overheating and thus ruining my fun.
Ah , the good ol' days. Can anyone tell me why the touch pro could do wifi tethering and not the Evo? Is it android fault or the fault of the phone????
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the evo can do wifi tethering, it's just $30 a month until we get it rooted.
But can he use the phone too?
cmus said:
So I just moved to a new apartment and haven't hooked up internet access yet. How realistic would it be for me to avoid getting the usual cable internet setup that people in my area normally get and just use an Evo as the network router for all my devices. My home network includes a few laptops, a desktop, a networked hard drive, and a few old cellphones that I use to connect via wifi to play music and browse internet. Does anyone have real world experience to share about how these types of setups have been working with the Evo's hotspot feature. And is it even possible for me to incorporate my networked hard drive into this kind of network as it is not wifi - only ethernet? How could I get it included? Sorry for such a noob question. I would love to stop giving my money to Time Warner and just have one phone/internet bill to pay.
Thanks,
cmus
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I'm considering the evo for this very purpose as well, but i am unclear as to whether I would be able to use the phone to make calls at the same time as i am using it as a hotspot. There seems to be a lot of varying opinions on this, does anyone know the real deal?
thanks!
With the over heating issues, again, that why I just pull the battery cover off and sit it on my desk in front of a small 4-5" fan and keep it cool. I have run it for hours that way before as I use wmTorrent.
SMUcane said:
I'm considering the evo for this very purpose as well, but i am unclear as to whether I would be able to use the phone to make calls at the same time as i am using it as a hotspot. There seems to be a lot of varying opinions on this, does anyone know the real deal?
thanks!
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as long as you're on a 4G connection it'll work simultaneously. There's a completely separate antenna(e) for 4g, while 3g is on the same antenna as voice calls causing it to drop to 2.5g
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as long as you're on a 4G connection it'll work simultaneously. There's a completely separate antenna(e) for 4g, while 3g is on the same antenna as voice calls causing it to drop to 2.5g
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that was/is my fear.
if i understand your note correctly; if i am on 3g, i will not be able to use voice and data at the same time, thus rendering the hotspot ability much less useful. I was hoping to use this in my car while driving and get rid of my 3g card that i currently use
Is the wifi radio in this phone wireless-N?
david279 said:
Is the wifi radio in this phone wireless-N?
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No it is not. At least without root it isn't.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1
Go to step 13 to see what I'm talking about. The chip supposedly is capable of n. Just not right now. Hopefully someone can "unlock" it.
So now that I finally have my phone completely set up and running fast on RvU, I am running a very fast 4g connection in Chicago area and am tempted to tell RCN to shove it (I pay for their 10mbp service and it blows).
Would it be a bad idea to run the 4g tether ragged as an everyday connection?
You might raise some eyebrows if you're consistently hitting your cap. i think for Sprint it's around 5-6gb/mo.
No cap on 4g, use it to your hearts content my friend, make that 10$ we all pay worth it sir!
While there is no cap, do you ever use your connection at home while you're not home, like for downloading torrents? Something to think about if you do since thats obviously not possible if you take your phone with you.
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I have been downloaded dozens of torrents in the past couple weeks, via 3g as I can't get 4g at home. I have had no problems.
I remember a topic in the Sprint Hero forum about people using it for their home internet connection. Some got as high as 250gb a month without any response from Sprint. At least there wasn't a response at the time.
Even though it's unlimited, they can still say that "unlimited" is "within reason" and give ya the boot!
For normal internet use, I would give it a go.
I don't suggest using torrents, but I don't recommend torrents for any internet connection. Too many virus's and it's too easy to trace back to you. The producer of the movie The Hurt Locker is suing more than 5,000 people who downloaded/upload the movie via torrents. Newsgroups FTW!
can the hardware take it? i mean the EVO is slick and all, but it is not built or sold as a router replacement. there is a difference between "a lot of use" and "24x7" use. i'm thinking heat related issues, little parts and gizmo's, etc.
i'd be very sad to see my EVO give off a puff of smoke just after i lob a grenade or engage in some 25man raid. and i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be considered a warranty-able issue.
I don't see why it wouldn't be covered under the warranty, since the phone WAS designed for it! Don't forget, for $30 a month you can turn it into a WiFi router just like you can do when you root it!
So I doubt it's going to overheat, and if it does, it'll shut down before it becomes too hot.
Using it as a router though will definitely eat the battery, so best used plugged in.
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You might raise some eyebrows if you're consistently hitting your cap. i think for Sprint it's around 5-6gb/mo.
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Sprint does have a data cap for your phone, only wireless cards.
oOflyeyesOo said:
I have been downloaded dozens of torrents in the past couple weeks, via 3g as I can't get 4g at home. I have had no problems.
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I meant, when you leave....you kinda take your phone and your connection with you so you can't just leave it at home to download torrents
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I meant, when you leave....you kinda take your phone and your connection with you so you can't just leave it at home to download torrents
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Sometimes I leave it at home when my girl is home so she has internet. I leave it on overnight for 10 hours each day.
BUMP*** I'd like to hear more about this anyone get the boot for too much data??
Hey guys my 3g has been messed up for a little while now and i dont no whats causing it... i have flashed several roms and has not helped at all... currently running ext4 syndicate rom (newest version) and i have tried several kernals right now vision kernal is what im on. My download speeds average around .40-.60 and upload speeds go from .15-.20 using speed test. I have 5 bars of service sometimes it will go to 6 bars so its not signal. i dont no what is causing it, i have tried just using a Fresh rom with no apps downloaded and same results. im just lost, any ideas? and yes 3g is on and showing
My 3G had been exhibiting all kinds of funky behavior for at least a solid month. I was starting to think it had something to do with the roms and kernels, but now I'm leaning toward sprints network. Just look around the forums, some people report great 3G speeds and others report crappy speeds and odd behavior.
I'm in the middle, sometimes my 3G is fine and other times it just stalls, drops to 1x and just plain sucks. I have no explanation as I've tried 4 different modems and I see similar behavior. That's why I'm leaning towards sprints 3G network has got some issues.
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My 3G had been exhibiting all kinds of funky behavior for at least a solid month. I was starting to think it had something to do with the roms and kernels, but now I'm leaning toward sprints network. Just look around the forums, some people report great 3G speeds and others report crappy speeds and odd behavior.
I'm in the middle, sometimes my 3G is fine and other times it just stalls, drops to 1x and just plain sucks. I have no explanation as I've tried 4 different modems and I see similar behavior. That's why I'm leaning towards sprints 3G network has got some issues.
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Yes, I too think it is Sprint. I get great speeds off my Airave, then decent speeds a mile away, then go 3-5 miles away and it almost hangs, just sits and really crawls. Then a week later it will all change.
If you continue to have issues, flash the EB13 modem.
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If you continue to have issues, flash the EB13 modem.
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ok ill try that but one problem lol,,,,,my cord that came with my phone to connect it to pc via usb broke. i went to the sprint store to get another and they are out, ofcourse....anyway i cant use odin til i get my new one so id have to flash the rom though a zip if possible? which i dont think it is? if there is a zip i can flash of the eb13 could u possibly link me please? then i can go to it by my phone download it and BAM be done with it. thanks again for all your responses. and to the above post, yes my 3g has been goin in to 1xmode as well with 5 bars of service... weird
Any micro USB cable is worth trying. Another phone cable, some USB hubs, cameras, etc. You may have more cables than you realize already.
I have the same problem. After long conversations with sprint tech support they fixed the tower near my home and it worked great for a day and the weather went bad so it crapped out again.
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If you continue to have issues, flash the EB13 modem.
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I've used that one, ec05, di18 and now ee03. For shats and giggles, I'm going to take your advice and also try dk28's modem.
More and more everyday I feel its sprint tho.
Aug 1st Time Warner cable was installed next door, my 4G blew and I got a new phone. Now my speed is only about 1Mb and looks as if the phone is not stable or the speed tests are having a difficult time getting data. I took my phone down the street a less than a block where I could achieve 6 to 10Mb possibly even more.
I think it is TWC but it could be an Edison smart meter or other.
Is there a noise app that could help me pinpoint the noise source?
Should I call Sprint?
Any good ideas on how to handle this issue?
Thanks
That's something I would like to know as well, I have a train yard next to my house and can't get 4g anywhere near it but it works a few blocks away.
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I can say that there are 10 warehouse/offices which all have smart meters in the rear. To the best of my knowledge these meters are transmitting a whopping 5W @ 900MHZ 24x7
Is 13MB a realistic number or is noise making 4G look hotter than it really is? Any othe experiences or ideas.
conductive said:
This is getting really weird. On the roof I I get 1O-13Mb with speedtest.net. As soon as I start tethering to a laptop I only get a really crappy/unstable 1MB (starts high but does not hold) and get an abnormally high upload of 1.5+MB via DSLR flash speed test.
If I tether from inside on the front of the building near the roof I get 2.5-3Mb. This number is pretty consistent with the speedtest.net results on the phone.
I can say that there are 10 warehouse/offices which all have smart meters in the rear. To the best of my knowledge these meters are transmitting a whopping 5W @ 900MHZ 24x7
Do these meters mess up 4G a tether ing computer or? Is 13MB a realistic number or is noise making 4G look hotter than it really is? Any othe experiences or ideas. I have been trying to keep with usb tether in an attempt to lower noise.
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I remember reading just a few days ago that someone was having a similar issue when they started to tether. They fixed the speed issue buy setting up a proxy on the PC and they got their full 4G speeds while tethering. It was 4G over WIFI when they had the issue but maybe the same steps will help you out as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966418
Also, I use to work for TWCable. If the tech did a crappy job of the install and did not put fittings on the cables properly and used wrong equipment those cable lines can leak quite a bit of signal. They have techs that drive around once a month with a special detector and GPS to pick up where they have leaks in the aera and then report them to their supervisors, then they end up heading out to fix them if they are bad enough. That stuff can interfere with the bands that emergency vehicles/planes/phones use and they have to legally keep that stuff under control. So you could call TWCable and let them know they need to come out and check for signal leaks.
Video is a nosy ***** but I can not be 100% sure if it is the video, smart meter or other. I can say that I started having proplems on Aug 1 the day that TWC was installed next door. The thing about TWC is it is somewhat shielded even when leaking and a smart meter is not. I am tempted to put a 75 ohm terminator on the cable to see if that helps.
I have been tethering for over a year w/o problems w/o proxy. I could be wrong, but feel that the proxy simply helps hold an internet connection when you have a weak single and changing IP addresses. I thought I solved any need for that by placing my phone way above the building. That is also a really old thread with people on sense roms and CM7 is typically quite solid.
Thanks for the good information. Do we know what frequency TWC operates on?
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Video is a nosy ***** but I can not be 100% sure if it is the video, smart meter or other. I can say that I started having proplems on Aug 1 the day that TWC was installed next door. The thing about TWC is it is somewhat shielded even when leaking and a smart meter is not. I am tempted to put a 75 ohm terminator on the cable to see if that helps.
I have been tethering for over a year w/o problems w/o proxy. I could be wrong, but feel that the proxy simply helps hold an internet connection when you have a weak single and changing IP addresses. I thought I solved any need for that by placing my phone way above the building. That is also a really old thread with people on sense roms and CM7 is typically quite solid.
Thanks for the good information. Do we know what frequency TWC operates on?
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Its alot. every channel is a 6MHz increase. So say channel 32 is 20MHz then channel 33 is at 26MHz. Its been a few years since I worked for them. I dont really remember what frequency they run on. I know some are in the 10's other in the 100's. I just tried Googling it, but couldn't find a current list.
Honestly I would just give them a call and let them know ever since they came out that you have been having issues. They'll send a tech out to take a look.
In order to get the most out of my FireTV/Kodi setup, last week I switched to Comcast cable for their 105mbps service. The first few days, Speedtest.net showed a download speed of around 50mbps on both my computer and my FireTV. Last night, I was experiencing some buffering issues, which had totally disappeared the first few days with Comcast, so I did some more speed tests. I was excited to see speeds of 125mbps on my computer, but totally bummed to see that my FireTV was only reporting around 7 or 8mbps.
Why would there be such drastic performance differences between my computer and my FireTV? I would think some kind of issue arising over the long ethernet cable, but they were reporting consistent speeds between the two when I first got Comcast last weekend.
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In order to get the most out of my FireTV/Kodi setup, last week I switched to Comcast cable for their 105mbps service. The first few days, Speedtest.net showed a download speed of around 50mbps on both my computer and my FireTV. Last night, I was experiencing some buffering issues, which had totally disappeared the first few days with Comcast, so I did some more speed tests. I was excited to see speeds of 125mbps on my computer, but totally bummed to see that my FireTV was only reporting around 7 or 8mbps.
Why would there be such drastic performance differences between my computer and my FireTV? I would think some kind of issue arising over the long ethernet cable, but they were reporting consistent speeds between the two when I first got Comcast last weekend.
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That's kind of a drastic drop. I'd suspect the Ethernet cable. Longer cords will slow it down a*bit but more than likely it's a problem with the cable. How is it run? Is it possible it got squeezed?
Hardwired is always better but not always feasible. I bought my own modem and router. I actually get the speeds Comcast promises over WiFi with better range. Saving the monthly fee for Comcast equipment doesn't quite even out--it'll take years but my network is much better after switching.
Btw--have you tried the speedtests over WiFi? Sometimes my WiFi speeds beat hardwired but with WiFi you need to deal with interference.
As for cables and buffering, if there's something wrong with the cable it'll cause issues. It's like a race car going over 200 mph and hitting even a small bump. I use to drive my wife nuts with cables running through the house (I'm not much of a craftsman) But even though buffering is a part of xbmc I really don't experience much. And when I do it's usually fixed through power cycling the router. Of course if we're streaming it doesn't always matter how fast our internet is. If the server it comes from is slow, there's nothing you can do to speed it up.
***when I asked you to test WiFi speeds I assume you have dual band. 2.4ghz is craps imo. Another reason to buy your own router. In my area you only get 5ghz if you rent more equipment from Comcast.
Thanks for the response.
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I agree that it sounds like a cable issue, but would that explain why we were getting mediocre but consistent speeds between the computer and Fire TV, and now the computer speeds are blazing and the Fire TV is limping along? I did the measurements when no activity was going on, so I don't think the initial 50mbps tests were because the computer and Fire TV were evenly splitting the signal. And I haven't touched the cable since it was installed, so I don't know how it could have gotten squeezed between last weekend and now.
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Btw--have you tried the speedtests over WiFi? Sometimes my WiFi speeds beat hardwired but with WiFi you need to deal with interference.
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I haven't yet. One thing I did try was using different speed test websites. I wound up getting totally different figures (shown in mbps):
• Speedtest.net: 125
• att.com/speedtest: 27.16
• speedof.me: 40.62
• cnet.com/internet-speed-test: 31.39
• bandwidthplace.com: 37.52
• myverizon.com: 20.79
• timewarnercable.com: 122.58
Plus many more that totally fluctuated. Oddly, all of the upload speeds were consistent at around 12mbps.
Good suggestion to power cycle the router. I'll try that this evening and report back.
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In order to get the most out of my FireTV/Kodi setup, last week I switched to Comcast cable for their 105mbps service. The first few days, Speedtest.net showed a download speed of around 50mbps on both my computer and my FireTV. Last night, I was experiencing some buffering issues, which had totally disappeared the first few days with Comcast, so I did some more speed tests. I was excited to see speeds of 125mbps on my computer, but totally bummed to see that my FireTV was only reporting around 7 or 8mbps.
Why would there be such drastic performance differences between my computer and my FireTV? I would think some kind of issue arising over the long ethernet cable, but they were reporting consistent speeds between the two when I first got Comcast last weekend.
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Raymondo17 said:
Thanks for the response.
I wish I could speak more confidently about it but what I've learned is networking is pretty complicated. I was happy to buy a router that was open source ready but what I learned was it's a lot different than having superuser privs on a rooted device. I've learned a lot but
I agree that it sounds like a cable issue, but would that explain why we were getting mediocre but consistent speeds between the computer and Fire TV, and now the computer speeds are blazing and the Fire TV is limping along? I did the measurements when no activity was going on, so I don't think the initial 50mbps tests were because the computer and Fire TV were evenly splitting the signal. And I haven't touched the cable since it was installed, so I don't know how it could have gotten squeezed between last weekend and now.
I haven't yet. One thing I did try was using different speed test websites. I wound up getting totally different figures (shown in mbps):
• Speedtest.net: 125
• att.com/speedtest: 27.16
• speedof.me: 40.62
• cnet.com/internet-speed-test: 31.39
• bandwidthplace.com: 37.52
• myverizon.com: 20.79
• timewarnercable.com: 122.58
Plus many more that totally fluctuated. Oddly, all of the upload speeds were consistent at around 12mbps.
Good suggestion to power cycle the router. I'll try that this evening and report back.
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Speed tests can be effected by many factors. I find speed test.net to be most accurate. When it comes to networks, it can be a lot more complicated than it seems but most of the*issues I've spent hours or days agonizing over could've been solved by something as simple as a new cable. One time my speed test were fast but video kept buffering. I spent weeks troubleshooting. 2 techs came to my house. The 2nd was smart enough to check the cable outside my house. I live near the ocean and it got corroded. So it would register as fast but it was prone to frequent issues. That's why I always look for the simplest solution.
Also, I don't get too hung up on speedtests anymore. To this day my living room aftv still tests faster on 5ghz than wired but I keep it wired.
One wall away my other aftv is WiFi testing at around 100 mbps while the wired one tests at around 80 to 85. Oh and forgot to mention WiFi antennas aren't all the same either. My Mac is about 30 feet farther away from the router than WiFi aftv and Mac Always tests over 130 mbps.
I could go on but just so you don't get too hung up on figuring this out--keep the troubleshooting basic to start. Then if it's still giving you problems look deeper into it. Good luck!
After another frustrating night of aftv buffering, I sent my wife to bed and started yanking on cables and running speed tests. The simple act of turning off my PS3 and unplugging and plugging ethernet cables seemed to get me up from 8mbps to 25mbps. Swapping out a brand new Monoprice Cat6 cable for a Cat5e cable that Comcast had left behind bumped me up to around 30mbps. Still not the 50mbps I was experiencing when I first switched to Comcast, but better.
Then something KLit75 mentioned about testing my WiFi speed popped into my head, so I gave that a whirl. Speedtest reported 80mbps! I tripled my speed by going to WiFi! :good:
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To this day my living room aftv still tests faster on 5ghz than wired but I keep it wired.
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So why don't you go WiFi? I'm kinda old school, and I learned to always go hardwired whenever possible. But I think in this instance, if the speedtest numbers tell the real story here, I'd be way better off going with the WiFi, no?
I replayed the show we were watching that kept buffering on us earlier in the evening (an episode of Town of the Living Dead), and this time it played smooth as silk. Even the gray progress bar scooted happily along, picking up more and more space ahead of the playhead as the show progressed. I'm psyched!
I do recall during the rooting process that being on WiFi held some danger of Amazon updating my software on me, but since I completed the rooting process successfully and, if I remember correctly, in the process turned off the ability for Amazon to do auto updates in the process, I'm not in any danger of losing my root via an auto-update from Amazon, am I?
You mean "root"? You're good. I believe you're thinking of the root guide. It's easier to get to the registration page with ethernet. But once you're rooted there is absolutely no danger of losing root via WiFi (at last no more so than with Ethernet.)
As for why I don't go WiFi when speed tests are faster...
1. 80mbps, for what I stream is more than fast enough.
2. It's like I mentioned earlier, no interference, provided your cable is in good health.
3. Speed tests aren't always the best way to measure quality.
***I hardwire when I can. That no longer extends to running a long cable through my house. I certainly could but why would I ? I stream fine over WiFi.
But like I said, just because it registers as faster on a speed testdoesn't meaner it's stronger in terms of not getting weakened by external factors.
Before I landed on hardwiring, I made sure I tested 3 different cables. The results actually were different and I just went with the cable that had the fastest speed test result. My rule of thumb--if it's within a few feet of my router I hardwired. And there is one weak spot in my house (my son's room) so I bought him a plugin power line adapter. He only needs it for gaming.
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You mean "root"? You're good. I believe you're thinking of the root guide. It's easier to get to the registration page with ethernet. But once you're rooted there is absolutely no danger of losing root via WiFi (at last no more so than with Ethernet.)
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Lol. Yes, I meant "root," not "boot." I realized my doof, I mean, goof, and edited the post moments before I got your reply. Hey, it was pretty late when I posted, I'm surprised it wasn't more skewed than that.
Right after I posted, I went and checked my speed one more time before hitting the hay. For whatever reason, it was down from 80 to 30mbps, so I went to bed in a bad mood. But this morning I was getting 70mbps, so... I'll try not to let the speed tests drive me crazy. As long as I can get away from the frequent buffering of streaming content, I'll be happy.
Many thanks, KLit75, for your input on this. I really appreciate you takin' the time.
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After another frustrating night of aftv buffering, I sent my wife to bed and started yanking on cables and running speed tests. The simple act of turning off my PS3 and unplugging and plugging ethernet cables seemed to get me up from 8mbps to 25mbps. Swapping out a brand new Monoprice Cat6 cable for a Cat5e cable that Comcast had left behind bumped me up to around 30mbps. Still not the 50mbps I was experiencing when I first switched to Comcast, but better.
Then something KLit75 mentioned about testing my WiFi speed popped into my head, so I gave that a whirl. Speedtest reported 80mbps! I tripled my speed by going to WiFi! :good:
So why don't you go WiFi? I'm kinda old school, and I learned to always go hardwired whenever possible. But I think in this instance, if the speedtest numbers tell the real story here, I'd be way better off going with the WiFi, no?
I replayed the show we were watching that kept buffering on us earlier in the evening (an episode of Town of the Living Dead), and this time it played smooth as silk. Even the gray progress bar scooted happily along, picking up more and more space ahead of the playhead as the show progressed. I'm psyched!
I do recall during the rooting process that being on WiFi held some danger of Amazon updating my software on me, but since I completed the rooting process successfully and, if I remember correctly, in the process turned off the ability for Amazon to do auto updates in the process, I'm not in any danger of losing my root via an auto-update from Amazon, am I?
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Lol. Yes, I meant "root," not "boot." I realized my doof, I mean, goof, and edited the post moments before I got your reply. Hey, it was pretty late when I posted, I'm surprised it wasn't more skewed than that.
Right after I posted, I went and checked my speed one more time before hitting the hay. For whatever reason, it was down from 80 to 30mbps, so I went to bed in a bad mood. But this morning I was getting 70mbps, so... I'll try not to let the speed tests drive me crazy. As long as I can get away from the frequent buffering of streaming content, I'll be happy.
Many thanks, KLit75, for your input on this. I really appreciate you takin' the time.
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It's not a problem. If you're experiencing buffering it might be time to consider some advanced settings and unfortunately I'm not the one to talk to. I don't typically have buffering issues but it appears I'm more of the exception there.
There was actually a good thread very recently (last few days) I think it was title adjusting zero cache? Anyway it turns out lots of people set it to zero and that's not good for aftv. Read the entire thread then you might want to go to the org for more specifics.
I think I don't have buffering because I typically don't stream hd movie sources, especially over WiFi. Most of my online sources are tv shows from genesis. The others I almost alwaysuse local files.
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There was actually a good thread very recently (last few days) I think it was title adjusting zero cache? Anyway it turns out lots of people set it to zero and that's not good for aftv. Read the entire thread then you might want to go to the org for more specifics..
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I'd very much like to read that thread, as I did the Zero Cache routine and it seemed to help for a little while, but then not so much. Was it in this forum, cuz I don't see anything pertaining to zero cache in the title since the start of the new year?
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I'd very much like to read that thread, as I did the Zero Cache routine and it seemed to help for a little while, but then not so much. Was it in this forum, cuz I don't see anything pertaining to zero cache in the title since the start of the new year?
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It's this one. But like I said you might want to read then check related topics at the org. I don't pretend to know much about it but it seems there's not one catch all number to set. It's specific to your network.
In maybe a related topic, adbFire 1.16 was just released and I'm not certain but think the dev*made it simpler to change this/modify cache. If it's what I think it is it MIGHT make it a whole lot easier to play around/test different settings. But as always, do your research. I'm trying to help but it's not something I have experience with. I've been around long enough to understand this MAY be something that'd benefit you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/adjusting-zero-cache-t3016416
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It's this one. But like I said you might want to read then check related topics at the org.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/adjusting-zero-cache-t3016416
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Wow, that thread is exactly what I needed. And double-wow, somehow I was oblivious to this site's AFTV Help & Troubleshooting area, which is where most of my posts should have been placed in the first place, and definitely where a lot of my future reading will take place. Thanks for shoving me in the right direction, and my apologies to all for not posting in a more appropriate location.
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In maybe a related topic, adbFire 1.16 was just released and I'm not certain but think the dev*made it simpler to change this/modify cache. If it's what I think it is it MIGHT make it a whole lot easier to play around/test different settings.
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Yes, I checked out adbFire 1.16 last night. I was having trouble getting the main window on 1.15 to display at all, so I was using 1.14, which was a little sketchy as well. (I chalk it up to an aging Mac.) But 1.16 seems to be much improved.
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Wow, that thread is exactly what I needed. And double-wow, somehow I was oblivious to this site's AFTV Help & Troubleshooting area, which is where most of my posts should have been placed in the first place, and definitely where a lot of my future reading will take place. Thanks for shoving me in the right direction, and my apologies to all for not posting in a more appropriate location.
Yes, I checked out adbFire 1.16 last night. I was having trouble getting the main window on 1.15 to display at all, so I was using 1.14, which was a little sketchy as well. (I chalk it up to an aging Mac.) But 1.16 seems to be much improved.
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I'm a Mac user myself. Is Mac on WiFi? If so I found toggling from 2ghz to 5 helps with your adbfire problem. Btw--my Mac is white unibody 2010. But I quadrupled the ram from 2 to 8gb and this machine runs Yosemite better than some newer macs I've seen (faster anyway) About an 80 dollar investment paid off big time! Otherwise I would've been looking at at least a grand to buy a new one. Just something to consider and don't go by what apple says! According to them my Mac only supports 4 GB but testers have run 16 GB with great results. Mine has been running 8 for the better part of a year. If you go that route I'd reccomend a clean install from USB to really see the results.
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I'm a Mac user myself. Is Mac on WiFi? If so I found toggling from 2ghz to 5 helps with your adbfire problem. Btw--my Mac is white unibody 2010. But I quadrupled the ram from 2 to 8gb and this machine runs Yosemite better than some newer macs I've seen (faster anyway) .
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My mac is actually hardwired to the router. I'm realizing this beast is probably about a decade old now! I never used to get more than three years out of a computer. I pretty much maxed out the RAM when I bought it, so I think it's actually time for a new computer. But I will also say that I've got one of the brand new, black trashcan-looking Power Macs at work, and it's a dog. Crashes all the freakin' time. I wish I was still using my silver tower, so new isn't always better.