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Cant make up my mind

Argh i cant make up my mind, but if you had to choose would you go with Fresh or EVIO2?!! Decisions decisions.....

noons said:
Argh i cant make up my mind, but if you had to choose would you go with Fresh or EVIO2?!! Decisions decisions.....
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how about post in the correct section

noons said:
Argh i cant make up my mind, but if you had to choose would you go with Fresh or EVIO2?!! Decisions decisions.....
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thats like choosing which pill of Ecstasy to take...haha

Go with Evio 2, its very nice. it looks great without any theme on top of it. It runs great and has some elements from Android 2.2.1. I personally don't care for the kernal that it comes with (Zippy's) so I flashed my trusty netarchy 4.1.9.1, but I have also heard good things about King's #11. Look on page #342 of the Evio 2 thread to find 1.5 (newest version)
Also if you don't want to get flamed things like this should be posted in Q&A. Only Roms, mods, etc. should be posted in Development. Just a heads up

I like evio as well..
Above poster its Ziggy471
Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk.

Just read a little bout each one and decide.
I know, right. Why would xda make a general or qna section when you can just as easily post a question unrelated to development in the dev section.
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Clay333 said:
Go with Evio 2, its very nice. it looks great without any theme on top of it. It runs great and has some elements from Android 2.2.1. I personally don't care for the kernal that it comes with (Zippy's) so I flashed my trusty netarchy 4.1.9.1, but I have also heard good things about King's #11. Look on page #342 of the Evio 2 thread to find 1.5 (newest version)
Also if you don't want to get flamed things like this should be posted in Q&A. Only Roms, mods, etc. should be posted in Development. Just a heads up
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Yes that was an accident on my part thought I was in the general forum when I posted... Not sure why it requires flaming, a mod could simply move my thread for me...

Crazy how every time someone does this its because of an accident.

noons said:
Yes that was an accident on my part thought I was in the general forum when I posted... Not sure why it requires flaming, a mod could simply move my thread for me...
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Because theres a bunch of internet police with nothing better to do than to try and be internet know it alls.

BIGDINOG said:
Because theres a bunch of internet police with nothing better to do than to try and be internet know it alls.
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Also a lot of people tired of seeing useless threads and stupid questions that have no real answers. Like there's a shortage of opinions on which rom is best.

[Q] AOSP samsung t989 compile?

Can some one tell me why we can't compile AOSP for the t989 and just use Samsung kernel so everything works? Basically why can't we kang together a t989 ROM that is how much ever is needed of Samsung device modules etc and the rest AOSP?

jahrule said:
Can some one tell me why we can't compile AOSP for the t989 and just use Samsung kernel so everything works? Basically why can't we kang together a t989 ROM that is how much ever is needed of Samsung device modules etc and the rest AOSP?
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You should do it so that we get AOSP rom

jim93 said:
You should do it so that we get AOSP rom
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That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5

Towle said:
That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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It is cool. And yes i would love to do it. With my experience with linux this would be no biggie, but android i have no idea. I think that if it was possible surely someone would have made a flawless 98% AOSP rom with 2% samsung parts....... right?

Towle said:
That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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Csb are u done tryna be a mod? Cause reading back to your comment you didn't really contribute anything useful to his question either.
Now as for the question also apks cannot simply be installed on a touchwiz room the framework for both of these is pretty different you have to actually change code and port it over can't simply uninstall =(
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lilz4life said:
Csb are u done tryna be a mod? Cause reading back to your comment you didn't really contribute anything useful to his question either.
Now as for the question also apks cannot simply be installed on a touchwiz room the framework for both of these is pretty different you have to actually change code and port it over can't simply uninstall =(
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You did not answer my question at all.

Then I don't u derstand ur question.
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Okay, it is very difficult to make an AOSP ROM with no device tree. That's why we have barely any 100% working. Remember, if you take kernel apart, you will find yourself with many, many files. You need to look through them all and link all the files. If those linked files don't work, then maybe you have to add some. If it still doesn't work, you will need to rework the drivers/firmwares. It is a difficult process. You also need to link all kernel/ROM together. *APK's HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PORTING PROCESS*

jahrule said:
Can some one tell me why we can't compile AOSP for the t989 and just use Samsung kernel so everything works? Basically why can't we kang together a t989 ROM that is how much ever is needed of Samsung device modules etc and the rest AOSP?
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Apparently you have never worked with source and/or compiled from... there are plenty of reasons why that can't happen. Main reason there is no device tree with proper source.
:: DARKSIDE ::

thederekjay said:
Apparently you have never worked with source and/or compiled from... there are plenty of reasons why that can't happen. Main reason there is no device tree with proper source.
:: DARKSIDE ::
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I only use linux for the past 5 years i sure the hell have compiled and worked with source. I just never had to compile for anything other than x86(_64) cpu before aka no toolchaining.

Towle said:
That wasn't his question. Just don't respond if you have nothing useful to say. This is exactly where all the flame wars start.
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This is among the useful response for the original question. I was just encouraging him to go try it that is the best way form him to figure out why its not that simple.
This question has been asked before and I have seen how people have responded with different answers of this question. Whenever this question has been responded with technical reasons then it just ends up being followed by a question of why cant you do "A" even though "A" is based on not knowing another technical reason. The problem is the real satisfactory answer involves knowing alot of the basics which would have precluded you from asking the question in the first place.
Asking this question is like ends up like the following
"A: Why cant you fish with potato bits as bait?"
"B: well fishes dont like to eat potatoes"
"A: potato is food though,Why dont they like food"
It has been suggested before so clearly if someone knew how to do it they would have done it. The best thing at this stage is to try it.

alphadog32 said:
Okay, it is very difficult to make an AOSP ROM with no device tree. That's why we have barely any 100% working. Remember, if you take kernel apart, you will find yourself with many, many files. You need to look through them all and link all the files. If those linked files don't work, then maybe you have to add some. If it still doesn't work, you will need to rework the drivers/firmwares. It is a difficult process. You also need to link all kernel/ROM together. *APK's HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PORTING PROCESS*
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Yea.. I was not implying that we grab APKs from some random AOSP build and copy on top of some working stock ROM. My question more is that I see on samsungs opensource site they give us kernel source for the t989 (have not looked at it yet) and then they gave us some build files to copy over and overwrite the build environment for AOSP which I did and built (currently trying to figure out how to use the *.img files), but shouldn't that give us a ~90% AOSP build? That or I am completely not understanding the README file from samsung.

jim93 said:
This is among the useful response for the original question. I was just encouraging him to go try it that is the best way form him to figure out why its not that simple.
This question has been asked before and I have seen how people have responded with different answers of this question. Whenever this question has been responded with technical reasons then it just ends up being followed by a question of why cant you do "A" even though "A" is based on not knowing another technical reason. The problem is the real satisfactory answer involves knowing alot of the basics which would have precluded you from asking the question in the first place.
Asking this question is like ends up like the following
"A: Why cant you fish with potato bits as bait?"
"B: well fishes dont like to eat potatoes"
"A: potato is food though,Why dont they like food"
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I think he was trying to say if you don't want to spend the time explaining the details because you make some asumptions about people and their posts whom you have never met... then it is best you remain silent rather than giving some smart remark as an answer.

jahrule said:
I think he was trying to say if you don't want to spend the time explaining the details because you make some asumptions about people and their posts whom you have never met... then it is best you remain silent rather than giving some smart remark as an answer.
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I wasnt giving you a smart remarks just pointing out that at this point it is best to just try it because nobody knows all the exact steps because nobody has done it for this device.
You are left seeking genera android kernel advice which ->
If you run into trouble with technical details go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565 since it is a better place to ask questions about using img files than in the same forum where people ask "how do I install custom rom" even the themer section is a better place.

jim93 said:
I wasnt giving you a smart remarks just pointing out that at this point it is best to just try it because nobody knows all the exact steps because nobody has done it for this device.
You are left seeking genera android kernel advice which ->
If you run into trouble with technical details go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565 since it is a better place to ask questions about using img files than in the same forum where people ask "how do I install custom rom" even the themer section is a better place.
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I was not saying you were being a smart %^& just saying what I think dude was saying. In fact because of your comment I went got the source from samsung and repo synced AOSP and compiled it and have been playing around since just a little stuck now. My question was for more a technical reason. I understand now that we don't have a device tree for the t989 that works flawlessly... at least thats what i get from alpha and darkside. Now my question more is what the heck is the use of the source from samsung then?

jahrule said:
I was not saying you were being a smart %^& just saying what I think dude was saying. In fact because of your comment I went got the source from samsung and repo synced AOSP and compiled it and have been playing around since just a little stuck now. My question was for more a technical reason. I understand now that we don't have a device tree for the t989 that works flawlessly... at least thats what i get from alpha and darkside. Now my question more is what the heck is the use of the source from samsung then?
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You can actually modify the Kernel it just takes work. For example if for some reason either the t989 or skyrockets ICS kernel was open sourced there would be a rotation fix so quick for the one with broken rotation.
Samsung just throws the source they finished out there but doesnt really provide or I think care to provide any work towards AOSP builds.

Check out this thread.

rynstphn said:
Check out this thread.
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Hes asking about compiling Kernel from source I think

jim93 said:
Hes asking about compiling Kernel from source I think
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No i am talking about the userland
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rynstphn said:
Check out this thread.
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Yea thats cool and all but i am more intetested in GB. There is sone source that samsung gives us which i thought is the device tree for this phone... So in essence what i am asking is: what is the source that samsung provides and what use is it? I am aware of the kernel source already i am refering to the other package.
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Recommend a ROM (Stock) with these features?

Hi,
Messed around with Cyanogen 9 and 10 but not a fan of it.
Thinkinkg of just flashing the original Samsung stock ROM but people told me there are ROM's out there that are a deviation of the stock ROM but have a few tweaks, not sure if this actually exists or not. (I'm a noob to rooting).
Original Camera app
Original Video player app
S-Voice
NO Rogers bloatware
No Samsung bloatware (besides S-Voice, which I don't consider bloatware)
I know these are Samsung / TouchWiz features so I am not sure if it's possible to find a ROM that has this.
Basically I was pretty happy with my GS3 before I rooted it. The only thing I hated was the carrier/samsung bloatware bogging down system resources. I'd rather keep it on (basically) the stock ROM for now if it means retaining the original TouchWiz video/camera/s-voice apps.
Any idea if this is possible?

Sianspheric said:
Hi,
Messed around with Cyanogen 9 and 10 but not a fan of it.
Thinkinkg of just flashing the original Samsung stock ROM but people told me there are ROM's out there that are a deviation of the stock ROM but have a few tweaks, not sure if this actually exists or not. (I'm a noob to rooting).
Original Camera app
Original Video player app
S-Voice
NO Rogers bloatware
No Samsung bloatware (besides S-Voice, which I don't consider bloatware)
I know these are Samsung / TouchWiz features so I am not sure if it's possible to find a ROM that has this.
Any idea if this is possible?
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Check out the Development Forum. Pick and choose

the development forum and the lingo used in there is bloody daunting to me,
anything you'd recommend beyond just me looking through massive threads for 50 different "stock" ROMs?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903437
This will get you up to speed on the lingo.

kind of funny how I've already been given 3 suggestions for ROM's in the development forum
yet someone in there has chastised me for daring to post this question in the development forum

Sianspheric said:
kind of funny how I've already been given 3 suggestions for ROM's in the development forum
yet someone in there has chastised me for daring to post this question in the development forum
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Get used to it. Unfortunately for every positive response you get, you get another 9 that complain about something you're doing wrong. Just ignore those posts. Eventually one of the good people from this forum will help you out.
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Dude have you tried an S Voice and Google Now alternative that JUST came out?
It's called Maluuba .
I just installed it and best of all it is FREE!
They have a widget for fast access and I LOVE IT!
Absolutely amazing, easy to use, intelligent, very seamless and beautiful.
Give it a shot. I know you WON'T BE disappointed!

I just use the stock ROM nothing custom, the only thing I did was freeze the Bloatware apps with Titanium Backup... I am a very happy camper

I'm really liking Triune II by Nunhugger. If you stick with The Father theme, its stock looking. Its TW based and rock solid.

Sianspheric said:
kind of funny how I've already been given 3 suggestions for ROM's in the development forum
yet someone in there has chastised me for daring to post this question in the development forum
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It is usually because questions like this don't belong in the Development section. Also "Best ROM" threads are generally frowned upon, but this on seems like it might have some validation and it isn't turning into a pissing contest. I'll keep this one open for now as long as it doesn't stray too far.
xavierpunkreno said:
Get used to it. Unfortunately for every positive response you get, you get another 9 that complain about something you're doing wrong. Just ignore those posts. Eventually one of the good people from this forum will help you out.
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Unfortunately you are right about this. OP, just let those type of posts roll off your back. It isn't personal, but if it gets to be just report it and we'll take care of it.

I like using either kyanROM 1.5 or Wanamlite 1.3. Both stock, no bloat.

Anyone want to test my rom?

hey guys, i just modified the liquid smooth rom cause i was bored.
all credits go to the liquid team...i really didnt do anything hard, and i dont consider myself to be a real developer now.
just wondering if anyone wants to test it out to see if it works, and give some feedback.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zj1dfa69nmyewzn
Changes made:
-removal/replacement of a few apps
-build.prop changes
-changes to updater-script
-changed boot animation
Like I said, I didn't make this to make a more optimized version of liquid smooth. It's more of an experiment/attempt to learn a bit.
Thanks.
btw gapps arent included.

What changes did you make to the rom?
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falcons2 said:
What changes did you make to the rom?
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a few build.prop tweaks, some modification of systemui, deleted some apps and added others, changed bootanimation, and i think some other stuff that i cant remember anymore.

Not really a good way to inspire confidence in a ROM that you don't even know what you did to it...

EtherealRemnant said:
Not really a good way to inspire confidence in a ROM that you don't even know what you did to it...
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im not really trying to promote it to everyone. i just did this as an experiment, and i just want to know if its booting ok, not force closing apps, etc. so that i know whether or not to change something.

How about you test it out yourself before asking others to risk trying it. Just a simple piece of advice.
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LuigiBull23 said:
How about you test it out yourself before asking others to risk trying it. Just a simple piece of advice.
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According to his sig, he doesn't seem to have a GS3. Probably why he is asking for people to test it for him.

and i dont consider myself to be a real developer now.
just wondering if anyone wants to test it out to see if it works said:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zj1dfa69nmyewzn[/url]
Thanks.
btw gapps arent included.
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Feedback:
Who'd want to "Test" a rom from a non-developer, when there are many that are from DEVELOPERS, not to mention the Liquid Smooth was developed by a full team. This to me infers that you are better than a team? Oh well, if you want to try peeps, go for it, but remember, it was done by someone who says he was not a developer.
like getting on a bus with a legally blind driver!
I have no understanding why anyone would!....... and "TEST"? OMG

bobolinko said:
Feedback:
Who'd want to "Test" a rom from a non-developer, when there are many that are from DEVELOPERS, not to mention the Liquid Smooth was developed by a full team. This to me infers that you are better than a team? Oh well, if you want to try peeps, go for it, but remember, it was done by someone who says he was not a developer.
like getting on a bus with a legally blind driver!
I have no understanding why anyone would!....... and "TEST"? OMG
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i clearly said in my original post, that i take no credit for this, and that all credit goes to the liquid smooth team.
By test i didnt mean to go through the whole rom and check if every single thing works. Im just asking that you flash it
and let me know if it boots fine and doenst have any major issues.
like i said, im not trying to promote this as the best rom for the s3 that everyone should start using.
no need to get all pissed...it was just a simple question. If you dont want to try it, why even post?

i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...

saranhai said:
i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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+1. We can do without the drama guys. The OP is doing absolutely nothing out of the ordinary by developing blind. Yes, it is always a risk for testers, which is why he posted this here looking for the willing. If you don't want to try it, please move along and stop flaming each other. :good:

saranhai said:
i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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Thanks. Like you said I doubt flashing this would cause any harm. All I really did was change a couple apps and replace some pics in systemui and frameworkres.
Just make a nandroid, flash the rom, let me know if it installs/boots properly, and then just restore your nandroid.

My apologies go out to the op. He did make an effort to further improve an already outstanding rom and asking for testers is KEY. It's a great start for experimenting while increasing your knowledge on the more advanced aspects of android. Will give this a try once my S3 is fully charged!
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I bet if he was a recognize developer you all wouldn't be a§§es. Just say no thank you and move on. Too many drama lovers on this site I swear.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

Considering that its possible to modify firmware images and inject custom malicious code, I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's motives for putting up a ROM that they admit they don't even remember what changes were done to it. I can understand if you think you've improved upon something but without a change log or anything there isn't really any reason to test it. Being cautious is not the same as being an ass.

EtherealRemnant said:
Considering that its possible to modify firmware images and inject custom malicious code, I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's motives for putting up a ROM that they admit they don't even remember what changes were done to it. I can understand if you think you've improved upon something but without a change log or anything there isn't really any reason to test it. Being cautious is not the same as being an ass.
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I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something suspicious. But there are ways to do it without coming off like a jerk.
@OP I do advise adding more to the OP about the changes made if you want testers.

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I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something suspicious. But there are ways to do it without coming off like a jerk.
@OP I do advise adding more to the OP about the changes made if you want testers.
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One thing that I hate about the internet - you can't really control how your message is taken by others. I wasn't trying to be a jerk at all.

EtherealRemnant said:
One thing that I hate about the internet - you can't really control how your message is taken by others. I wasn't trying to be a jerk at all.
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Oh no, I wasn't aiming that towards you at all. It was just a general statement. Now let's stop spamming this thread with off topic posts

Everybody has a point to start. May be this is his point.
I swear if I was fan of 4.2 roms I would do it for you. But I already had too much headache with 4.2 roms.
Dont forget to ask original dev before you modify his work like this.
Gud luck ahead.

the rom has 6 downloads, however no one has given any feedback?
if anyone flashed it could you let me know if it works ok.

No aosp roms?

Is it too soon for aosp ROMs for t mobile yet?

I hear there's some in the works...just something with the kernel not booting..ROM builds but... You on G+?

Questions do not belong in the development section. Also this topic has been discussed and answered numerous times.

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Questions do not belong in the development section. Also this topic has been discussed and answered numerous times.
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Yeah I don't get it three in one day... is it a full moon tonight?

ThePagel said:
Yeah I don't get it three in one day... is it a full moon tonight?
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goes back to who needs the stinken rules!! Who needs to actually read threads...I came from S4 verizon forum and the number of questions on the same topic that was posted practically daily because of pure laziness was unbelievable...we had posters who said they were too busy to read any threads and wanted an answer right now!!

darryim said:
Is it too soon for aosp ROMs for t mobile yet?
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Short answer: yes. The phone came out a bit more than a month or two ago. Developers cannot just whip these things together. It takes time and the right kernel and configurations. We don't want a messy ROM circulating simply for the sake of having an AOSP ROM.
Also, it's possible some developers do not want to focus on a ROM for a phone in which only one carrier has an unlocked bootloader. That certainly can make some hesitant, mainly because it's tougher to work with limitations. Take Cyanogenmod. Their developers hesitate to work on this phone for that very reason, as an example. They simply do not want to work on a ROM just for one model with an unlocked bootloader.
Give it time, friend. It'll come.
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I don't know why people are thirsty for AOSP ROMs for T-Mobile devices. You lose WiFi Calling with pretty much every AOSP ROM I've seen, and that is T-Mobile's killer app. Not like there's anything out there that's gonna replace it.

starkruzr said:
I don't know why people are thirsty for AOSP ROMs for T-Mobile devices. You lose WiFi Calling with pretty much every AOSP ROM I've seen, and that is T-Mobile's killer app. Not like there's anything out there that's gonna replace it.
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Bingoboomshakalaka! Plus, the LG stuff is unobtrusive and occasionally useful. While I would play with AOSP, it couldn't be a daily driver for me.

ahem...
https://plus.google.com/109746709508989257077/posts/2gXUKGeeibt

Cablespider said:
ahem...
https://plus.google.com/109746709508989257077/posts/2gXUKGeeibt
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Was just going to post this!

AICP is booting...
https://plus.google.com/104157733403056482149/posts/Dyrz9tiEGBt

starkruzr said:
I don't know why people are thirsty for AOSP ROMs for T-Mobile devices. You lose WiFi Calling with pretty much every AOSP ROM I've seen, and that is T-Mobile's killer app. Not like there's anything out there that's gonna replace it.
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Why can't we have one thread discussing AOSP without people, who obviously have no interest in it, coming in and flaming people who do? We get it, you all don't care about AOSP on your precious TMobile phones, that is fine. Can't you let those people who DO CARE talk about it in peace? I wouldn't walk into a restaurant serving food I didn't like and start shouting "why are you eating here? I don't like this food".. I just wouldn't go there. Please try to respect that other people have different tastes, in food and ROMs, and let us discuss what we are excited about without crapping all over every thread with this "AOSP doesn't have wifi calling, AOSP doesn't have LG apps, AOSP doesn't wipe my ass for me" nonsense. We know that, and we are still interested, if you are not, just leave us alone.

I tried out the other test version but its 4.4.2, I hope we get a test build of this one rather soon.

ThePagel said:
Yeah I don't get it three in one day... is it a full moon tonight?
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3? I thought it was 2? Tom Marshall, aicp, what else?

scottshebs said:
3? I thought it was 2? Tom Marshall, aicp, what else?
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This was a few days before aosp announcement and it was about people posting in the wrong sections not aosp.