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Missing SMS / text messages

Hello,
I've suspected for a while(and confirmed with friends) that relatively often, my sms don't get to them. It's shown as sent in my phone and in the sms threads, but they simply don't recieve them.
So I tested it out with another phone, sending 5 sms' to the other phone and it only recieved the first one. the other 4 never got there... Now could this be some sort of anti spam causing it? - I did send them in rapid succession. However when I send messages from the OTHER phone to me, regardless of how quick, I get them all. And we're on the same network/provider so that doesn't seem to be the problem.
During regular use, even SMS' sent with lots of time inbetween gets lost occassionally.
I've never had this problems with my old phone so does anyone else have a clue why this is happening? As you can imagine, it's frustrating thinking someone has gotten a message but it never reached there.
Thank you.

Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535

RMU said:
Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
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Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?

I had that problem before with my touchPro. All I did was hard reset the phone, active sync my contacts and I sent out text messages. Everything worked fine after that.

aiaob said:
Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?
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Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.

RMU said:
Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.
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God you know what, you're right. Thanks. I did look through the WM sent folder before but not far down enough..
It does seem to drop the + after the first SMS then not reapply the + until I get a reply.
Annoyingly my phone still tells me "Message Sent" instead of invalid number though, so there's no way to tell if it sent the message without going to check the sent folder I assume?
Doesn't seem like there's a fix or even a confirmed cause for this yet?

I'm having a strange reversed problem: all SMS I send are regularly delivered, but I "miss" many incoming ones. the strage thing is that it happens (AFAIK) only with my girlfriend's ones!! nobody else still complained about me not anwering, so that should mean I received and answered all other mesages.
Please note that we have the same mobile operator (Vodafone Italy)
today she tried her SIM with her bro's phone, and guess what, the problem is still here BUT the difference is in lost messages: 4 out of five lost with her Moto v9, 2 out of 6 lost with her bro's nokia. that sounds really weird to me.
where do you think the problem might be? mine/her SIM, or phone?
I'll call Vodafone Italy later, but their assistance and support is really awful, they do not even know what they are talking about, and reply with the same pre-confectioned anwers every time.

wrong time in threaded messages?

i really appreciate the threaded messages in android phones but i have a strange experience with it once in a while. When you text back and forth you get all these messages in like a chat form following the order of the conversation but sometimes i would all get my messages in a cluster while the response of my friend would be thrown somewhere in the beginning or at the end. I have no problem with sending and receiving but they sometimes don't come in the right order. I don't know if i have explained myself well or if you guys can see my problem. Anyway if anyone has the same experience and a solution i would really appreciate that. Thanks

I don't text that much but I noticed if I receive a reply the same minute I sent the text the order will be messed up. Haven't found nor looked for a solution yet, doesn't happen that often to bother me.

i got the same problem... but no solution

[Q] Cyanogen CM6 SMS only converting to MMS after 3x160 characters, not splitting

Hello,
Running Cyanogen CM6 RC1 here. I've been having trouble sending long text messages, which I initially diagnosed as a problem sending MMS.Specifically whenever I tried to send a long text message (longer than 160 chars) it would just hang and say "sending" for like 5 minutes before I get a failure report. Curiously, I had no trouble sending or receiving messages with multimedia content, like images.
After some additional tinkering and web searching, I discovered that MMS was working fine. Rather, my phone is trying to send text messages between 161 and 480 characters as SMS without breaking them apart into the appropriate number of parcels. Above 460, or 3x160, the phone is converting them to MMS and it goes through just fine.
Is there a way to change the threshold before which SMS are converted to MMS? I think all the EVO owners are pretty much on the same plan which gives us unlimited media messaging, therefore there is no point in not sending any SMS over 160 chars as an MMS. Is there a way we could change the threshold to 1? I imagine this is what HTC did in their messenger that was installed with Sense.
*Temporary solution:* If anyone else out there is having this problem, but doesn't have a solution, I have a temporary one. Simply download and use the free Handcent SMS application, and in the settings (settings>send message settings>Split 160) change the value from "Don't split" to "Simple Split". This will automatically break up messages between 161-460 into 2-3 parcels of 160 chars or less.

Handcent i think has those setting parameters.
also, this is a known issue already, and has already been greatly discussed.

infamousjax said:
Handcent i think has those setting parameters.
also, this is a known issue already, and has already been greatly discussed.
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Sorry, I was typing an edit as you made the mention about handcent. However, I haven't found the setting that allows you to change the threshold--only to make the message split. Also, it will allow to turn off conversion altogether. Am I not seeing it?
Also, perhaps I'm not so savvy here, but I've been unable to find any solutions on forums or anywhere. If this issue is already very well discussed, any chance you provide me with a link please?

I have this same problem which is VERY annoying! Like you said I have not seen it discussed before either!

It's not a CM6 issue.
It's an Android issue.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318
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drmacinyasha said:
It's not a CM6 issue.
It's an Android issue.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318
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So it would appear then that there is no solution to this?

yeah, there is a solution. use handcent. chomp probably does it too.
btw, you may want to post your questions in the 'questions' section

timothydonohue said:
yeah, there is a solution. use handcent. chomp probably does it too.
btw, you may want to post your questions in the 'questions' section
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Ah, next time I'll use the questions section. Regarding Handcent, does this actually allow me set the threshold, or just break up longer messages into multiple SMS--I mean, does Handcent present another solution other than the one I specified in my initial post?

AFAIK, SMS length is an agreed upon standard that probably in the near future won't be changed. longer messages will be broken up into transmissable lengths of 160 chars, until a message is long enough that it is actually simpler on the network to send the whole thing as a single MMS loaf.

[Q] Text Message Over 160 Chtrs?

did a quick search, but couldn't find an answer if its possible or not.
Is there any way to change the text message length to allow for more than 160 characters per message? I receive some messages from my airline and others that end up being broken up into pieces.

I believe the 160 limit is a limitation of CDMA

I wonder if you could crash their servers by sending more than the limit. lol! If you guys recall, you could once hack into anyones AIM account by typing a password longer than their limit. lol! So who knows. :-D But yeah, it is currently a limitation of CDMA. until these idiots update their networks, we are stuck with what they give us.

I wonder if you could crash their servers by sending more than the limit. lol!
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Umm, no. When the network sees a text over 160, it automatically splits it.
until these idiots update their networks, we are stuck with what they give us.
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Whats wrong with it? If it aint broke, dont fix it.

[Q] MMS length restriction

I received my Xperia Z1 compact a few days ago. No issues. Rooted no probs thanks to the peeps on zda.
Have come across one annoyance though. When I type out a text if the system judges it to be to long the system decides it is going to break the message up into multiple texts. I had this with my old Galaxy S2 but fortunately some bright spark managed to make a fix for that.
Does anyone know if there is a fix for this yet?

As far as I know the S2 converted the SMS to a MMS if it reached a certain length. I don't see this happening on the Z1 Compact (am I wrong?). The split up into multiple SMS is normal (limit is 160 ansi characters). So what are you exactly asking for?

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My bad. I got my mms & sms confused. Basically the text system is breaking up long sms into multiple sms's. I appreciate this has become the norm it seems for sms but it to me is an annoyance. It is something that has been overcome with other handsets. Just wondering if anyone knows a way round it with the compact. Again sorry about the confusion.

Every phone will break up SMS with more than 160 ansi characters into multiple messages. It's the GSM standard.

I know it is the operator standard but as mentioned there have been ways around this in the past. I didn't know if there was with the compact yet. I'm guessing not by your responses.
Thanks anyway peeps

mitch2471 said:
I know it is the operator standard but as mentioned there have been ways around this in the past. I didn't know if there was with the compact yet. I'm guessing not by your responses.
Thanks anyway peeps
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When I send SMS with more than 160 characters (or whatever the limitation by GSM was) it is still showing as 1 piece of sms. Same for received messages.
I read somewhere that Iphone and Android don't work too well on this, but I have no definitive answer or solution here for you.
Maybe it is operator dependent. No Idea. Both my Z ultra and compact do not suffer broken up messages. I am in Vietnam at the moment.. Hardly cutting edge IT leader, so I would have expected the same in developed nations....
I have used Handcent sms app before, and I remember in the options and settings, there was a checkbox you could tick to keep long sms in tact...

Try using SMS Zipper or PackSMS
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.impossiblesoft.packsmstrial&hl=en