Since I don't want to renew my plan with ATT...I was told that it requires ESN swapping and that could get me in trouble? Can someone explain what this is and why and what are the chances of them knowing and getting caught?
Oh and would 3G work? I know hspa+ probably wouldn't since I don't think that's what sprint uses...?
No it's not possible, Virgin Mobile USA is owned by Sprint and uses Sprint's CDMA network, as the G2 is a GSM phone it doesn't even have a radio that can work on the network.
If you want to switch to a pre-paid carrier and keep you G2 you need to pick one that uses GSM technology such as Simple Mobile.
raitchison said:
No it's not possible, Virgin Mobile USA is owned by Sprint and uses Sprint's CDMA network, as the G2 is a GSM phone it doesn't even have a radio that can work on the network.
If you want to switch to a pre-paid carrier and keep you G2 you need to pick one that uses GSM technology such as Simple Mobile.
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Nailed it.
And as I've said in other threads, people need to chill out about the AT&T thing. Its going to be up to a year before the acquisition is complete, and at that time make your choice on where you want to move or if you're going to stay.
Freaking out now 1 day after its announced isn't gonna do you any good.
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So I have a Touch Pro2 on my personal T-Mobile account. My company has issued me a iPhone for my work phone. Which they pay for 100%. My question is if I unlock my Touch Pro2 and put my sim card from my iPhone in the TP2 will AT&T change my data plan to a PDA one? Since I do not pay my company phone bill I don't want to do anything to change that plan or add more money to it without permission. By the way the iPhone is mine so if I leave the company I take it with me. So I want to get the Touch Pro2 to work on my company line so I can sell the iPhone pocket some cash and cancel my personal line.
At&T data plans
the iphone plan and the PDA plan are completely different features and are not cross compatible. If the company bought you an iphone, in order to make the internet work on the TP2 you will have to have the feature changed out, if it is the company's account, you may not have that access to make the change, and internet won't work until it is changed.
You dont need a pda plan to use a unlocked touch pro 2 from tmobile i have one and im on att, the tmobile version doesnt register on the att network so the most they can charge is the lowest data plan. as far as your plan the iphone plan is probably the only plan that doesnt change on its own, although if you put the sim in your touch pro 2 youll still get data and still be charger the iphone plan. but remember your only get edge dta speeds with a unlocked version.
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but remember your only get edge dta speeds with a unlocked version.
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So the T-Mo Touch Pro2 doesn't work on AT&T 3G?
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So the T-Mo Touch Pro2 doesn't work on AT&T 3G?
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That is correct. Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT. I got a Tmobile TP2 and unlocked it to use on ATT so that they couldnt take away my $19 unlimited data plan. the Edge radio works and thats fast enough for what I use the phone for.
I have tp2 on att network also but i cant connect to aim or any instant messaging programs what should i do. I configured the settings to connect to the internet and it works.but i cant use aim,yahoo,and myspace im.
mattekman said:
That is correct. Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT. I got a Tmobile TP2 and unlocked it to use on ATT so that they couldnt take away my $19 unlimited data plan. the Edge radio works and thats fast enough for what I use the phone for.
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Well seeing as how my previous company phone was BlackBerry Curve running edge I don't think it would be entirely a problem.
Is it faster or slower?
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Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT
How different? Is T-Mobile chip is faster than AT&T chip or slower? If I'm with T-Mobile TP2 phone and AT&T service what will happen if I'll flash the latest AT&T stock radio on the T-Mobile phone?
3G on TP2 w/AT&T
Is there any way to get the 3G to work on my TP2 (unlocked T-mobile)with my at&t 3G sim card ??? It is so f***ing slow!
Please don't tell me that I have to buy Tilt 2 to have it work!
Buy a Tilt 2.
I just got Tilt 2!
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Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT
How different? Is T-Mobile chip is faster than AT&T chip or slower? If I'm with T-Mobile TP2 phone and AT&T service what will happen if I'll flash the latest AT&T stock radio on the T-Mobile phone?
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You're taken care of now, but just for the record, the TMo and ATT 3G services propagate over different frequencies. The 3G radio in the TMo phone is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over TMo's frequencies, and the Tilt2 is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over ATT's frequencies. It's not a question of which chip is faster, but rather which chip can access which carrier's 3G frequency.
Most GSM phones have quad-band edge, meaning they can access edge-speed data on most carriers. But most branded GSM phones have only their particular carrier's 3g band.
Flashing the ATT ROM onto the TMo phone won't affect the speed of the 3g radio, as it is a hardware difference, not a software difference.
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You're taken care of now, but just for the record, the TMo and ATT 3G services propagate over different frequencies. The 3G radio in the TMo phone is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over TMo's frequencies, and the Tilt2 is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over ATT's frequencies. It's not a question of which chip is faster, but rather which chip can access which carrier's 3G frequency.
Most GSM phones have quad-band edge, meaning they can access edge-speed data on most carriers. But most branded GSM phones have only their particular carrier's 3g band.
Flashing the ATT ROM onto the TMo phone won't affect the speed of the 3g radio, as it is a hardware difference, not a software difference.
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Thanks, I figured it will be easy to buy Tilt 2
damn it !!!
So are u saying that my tmobile phone will never work on ATT with 3G?? this is CRAP! if there is no hardware difference why cant there be a workaround ? radio related maybe to unable the phone to use ATT 3g frequency???
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So are u saying that my tmobile phone will never work on ATT with 3G?? this is CRAP! if there is no hardware difference why cant there be a workaround ? radio related maybe to unable the phone to use ATT 3g frequency???
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TMOBILE HTC Touch PRO 2 has different hardware -meant to read "band" specifically for Tmobile's 3g.
ATT TILT 2 has hardware specific for ATTs 3g network.
You can use Tmobile phones on ATT using Edge..but you will never get to ATTs 3g network. You simply just dont have the hardware. It's just like buying a phone that has not internal GPS chip and no matter how you flash it or add/remove software, you simply can't use the turn-by-turn navi software (unless you use an external bluetooth device).
Additionally, anyone know about the radio compatibility of a HTC branded TP2? I purchased mine already unlocked, and not sure if I can get 3G from ATT or not...
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Additionally, anyone know about the radio compatibility of a HTC branded TP2? I purchased mine already unlocked, and not sure if I can get 3G from ATT or not...
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The int'l unlocked version is edge only on ATT.
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The int'l unlocked version is edge only on ATT.
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Yup, that is exactly what I feared...Good to know, and I Think mine will end up on Craigslist before long.
the reason the 3G wont work is because the 2 carriers use different basebands for service. While they both have 3G capabilites, ATT uses 850 and 1900 and Tmobile uses 1700 and 2100... it may have changed but i know thats what it used to be. It is the same reason that (forgive me for mentioning the dang thing) the iphone 3G wont work on tmobile, it will only work at EDGE speeds.
Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
No, the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 is exclusively GSM, and Verizon's network utilizes CDMA technology. You would need to buy a Verizon Touch Pro2 from Verizon to use Verizon's network.
LOL.
AT&T, T-Mobile = GSM
Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular = CDMA
You CANNOT use a GSM phone on a CDMA network and vice versa.
AT&T to T-Mobile??
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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First of all, don't try to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto your Sprint Rhodium, since that's a great way to brick your device (the ROM is for a GSM device, flashing that to a CDMA/GSM device will brick it). Sprint allows the use of SIM cards for any carriers except US ones, so what you need to do is Security Unlock your Sprint TP2, then flash this special modified radio that will allow for the use of SIM cards from US carriers. Only then can you use your Sprint TP2 on T-Mobile US.
EDIT: Disregard this entire post, I misread it and this probably doesn't apply to the actual situation. My bad...
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nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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AFAIK, the TP2s on Verizon are World Phones, but I really doubt that you could go and use a Verizon TP2 on a GSM carrier like AT&T or T-Mo. I would assume Verizon would lock the feature to do that, and that the GSM antenna is more then likely an underpowered or unable to really take advantage of GSM networks (3G/HSDPA, Edge, etc). I think they are only set on on Verizons end to do basic voice and basic features.
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Thanks Steve
Everyone,
I apologize for the confusion.. I re-read my post and I didn't mention that my Touch Pro 2 is an AT&T phone. (I was an AT&T customer and moved to Sprint). Sorry about that guys..
But thank you everyone especially stevedabi for reading between the lines.. LOL.. He won't buy it but my other co-worker is very interested. Need to sell this thing so I can offset my termination fee from AT&T. haha.
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Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Why not just transfer the entire contract to him WITH the phone.. Then you don't have to pay a cancellation fee... Can they do that here? I know of a few people that did it up in Canada but have never heard of anyone in the states doing it. I'm sure it's got to be possible down here.
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Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
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Sell it to me....
Verizon is cdma...tmobile is gsm they aren't interchangeable. PM me if you are interested in selling.
Okay, so the G2 can have at&t, but how about cricket?
cricket is like Verizon, so no because cricket doesn't support sim cards.
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cricket is like Verizon, so no because cricket doesn't support sim cards.
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You couldn't hook it up via phone? Like, forget the simcard? Damn
No, you can't. Cricket is a CDMA network. The G2 does not even have the right type of radio hardware to work on CDMA.
Did you buy one already or something?
OP has a lot of posts on this (G2) forum. So my guess he presently has the G2 and is thinking of switching carriers.
The G2 will only work on GSM networks, and might not get 3G on many carriers besides T-Mob (only EDGE).
If you want to go pre-paid with a G2 I think your best bet is Walmart Family Mobile, they are on T-Mobile's network so you should be able to get 3G speeds.
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OP has a lot of posts on this (G2) forum. So my guess he presently has the G2 and is thinking of switching carriers.
The G2 will only work on GSM networks, and might not get 3G on many carriers besides T-Mob (only EDGE).
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Bingo. Cricket is CDMA. T-mo and att are GSM. No go bro.
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Will I be able to get it to work on Sprint's network here state side? I live in California and can get a great deal while I am here in Taiwan
I just know sprint doesn't have sim cards but there must be a way right? Also if not on sprint if I had to last resort go to another carrier?
Thanks in advance.
Sprint
No you can't use a gsm phone on cdma system. Sprint uses a different system then att or tmobile, which are gsm. The only hope for you if on sprint is if sprint themselves release this phone and if I have read correctly it might not be the quad variant. So save your money till you get home.
alternate carrier might be at&t. you can buy a micro-sim on amazon and even go for a relatively cheap prepaid phone plan. or buy the micro-sim from net10 and go for their $50/month everything "unlimited" plan - which we all know for most carriers still means limited data, you just have to find out at which point they kick you off. from what i've read, there's a similar possibility on straight-talk. i think net10 and straight-talk use the at&t towers on gsm. (on cdma, net10 where i live uses the sprint system.) i went for the at&t plan - $2/day unlimited talk/text when used (i don't talk or text that often) and a data plan (they come in different sizes/prices).
As stated, Sprint uses CDMA. Most of the world uses GSM. The international One X will never work on Sprint.
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I've searched and see a lot of info related to using the Sprint HTC One on Verizon's network. Voice should work over CDMA but I haven't found any info about changing SIM. My question is if I use a Verizon SIM instead of the Sprint one will it work on Verizon's LTE network?
Thanks,
I would be suprised if this worked. Verizon's LTE is on 700mhz spectrum. I doubt a Sprint htc one is tuned for that.
I think if we had unlock and root and could modify the phone, parts of the phone could work on Verizon. However, I believe you would have an uphill battle in getting Verizon to activate a Sprint device in their network.
rethinking this, I don't think it will work at all. Sprint isn't beholden to the same rules as Verizon for using the 700 block spectrum. They are free to lockout verizon LTE.
Besides, why would you want to use a sprint phone on verizon network? If you don't have sprint signal, it will roam to verizon anyways.
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rethinking this, I don't think it will work at all. Sprint isn't beholden to the same rules as Verizon for using the 700 block spectrum. They are free to lockout verizon LTE.
Besides, why would you want to use a sprint phone on verizon network? If you don't have sprint signal, it will roam to verizon anyways.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the only LTE band supported by Sprint's One is 1900Mhz so its not possible at all, let alone to lock it out.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the only LTE band supported by Sprint's One is 1900Mhz so its not possible at all, let alone to lock it out.
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Thanks, Figures! Too bad, the reason I wanted to use Sprint's One is "RED" .... it really is nice looking
Verizon's network runs on an ESN white-list. If the ESN of the device doesn't match up with their database the phone is going to be rejected no matter what you do. The only way around that is to do (highly illegal) ESN cloning.