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Hi, I've got a recently rooted HTC desire, and since rooting it I have been playing around with a couple of roms; I have tried both cyanogenmod and a desire hd rom. However with both I have had the same problem - having to start fresh completely, without any of my data. And then having to restore a backup.
So my question is firstly, am I doing something wrong? I have tried restoring my data before but all I ever get is a bootloop when I restart so I have to wipe it again.
And then, if you do have to start afresh, is it really worth it? And why.
Thanks for reading
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HikerMan said:
Hi, I've got a recently rooted HTC desire, and since rooting it I have been playing around with a couple of roms; I have tried both cyanogenmod and a desire hd rom. However with both I have had the same problem - having to start fresh completely, without any of my data. And then having to restore a backup.
So my question is firstly, am I doing something wrong? I have tried restoring my data before but all I ever get is a bootloop when I restart so I have to wipe it again.
And then, if you do have to start afresh, is it really worth it? And why.
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I try to keep it simple.
You say you've tried restoring your data? With...Clockworkmod? Or what? If you restore only /data-partition with Clockworkmod (I'm not sure if it's even possible, never have tried it) you are bound to have problems.
Same goes with Titanium Backup. When you're switching ROM from say, a Sense rom to Cyanogenmod - don't ever restore all settings. The ROM's are too different and their settings aren't compatible with each other! I myself only restore WiFi Access point list (and installed apps) when switching ROMs.
So if I've understood you correctly, you're not doing anything wrong (unless you're restoring a nandroid after flashing...)
A correct procedure for switching roms (not for updating the same ROM unless stated explicitly!) is:
-Titanium Backup/Mybackup/whatever your apps (and as little settings as possible, it's mostly trial and error)
-Nandroid backup (so you can revert when there are problems)
-Wipe data / factory reset (wipes everything but FAT32-partition of SD-card)
-Flash the new rom
-Restore your apps with TB/something else and manually input your settings (accounts, etc shouldn't be backed up either...)
Something you could consider if you want to jump ROMs all the time, is to set up your installation the way you like it, then do a nandroid backup, install a new rom, then set it up again and backup it, then if you want to switch these 2 roms you can just restore the one you want...Of course replacing the nandroid backup if you've done a lot of changes
Now for your last question: Starting fresh is worth it. Otherwise you will most probably run to force closes and other problems that force you to do a factory reset anyway.

Thanks for the reply! Very helpful... so if I go into titanium backup and backup all apps, will that backup contacts and text messages etc. also? Or will I have to lose them?
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HikerMan said:
Thanks for the reply! Very helpful... so if I go into titanium backup and backup all apps, will that backup contacts and text messages etc. also? Or will I have to lose them?
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Umm, I can't say about contacts, because I always sync them from my work Exchange & Gmail, and for text messages I recommend a free app called SMS Backup+ https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync&feature=search_result
The software backs up your SMS to your Gmail as messages, to a label called SMS , and they can be restored with a click to your new rom.
Also People app (in Sense) and Dialer (in AOSP roms) can export contacts to SD so you can easily import them back.

[Q] Stupid n00b question.....

Hi All,
Sorry to bother you guys but I'm a very new and wet behind the ears HD user. Initially i had an Orange UK branded HD but wanted to get rid of the Orange rubbish so ended up downgrading and installing Leedroid_HD_V2.2.3 which Ive been running for a month or so, i love the ROM and have it exactly as i want it.
Now my question is this;
Ive recently seen that theres an updated Leedroid ROM out (V3.0.0 GB) and id like to upgrade to it, is there any way of 'ghosting' my current setup (apps/widgets/settings) so that i don't have to go through the hassle of installing and configuring to get it back to how id like it ?
Thanks in advance for any replies.
Dave.

You could use Titanium Backup, but not recommend as your restoring between different builds. Also my backup root has capability to restore system settings, sms, apps, data etc.
I was in the same situation today, just downloaded all the apps fresh, and setup how I like. I only restored data to a couple games, not to any system app.
Ok, took a little while, but will save a lot of hurt later on with force closes etc.
After setup, just make a fresh titanium & nan-backup cwm for GB.
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please write the name of the thread concretly and making reference to your problem next time.. thx buddy!!! i think that it is not a stupid question.
EDIT: IF you enable the security backup of your google account,your app list is going to auto-restore when you initialize your new rom the fist time...
the user data,etc.. not recomened restore it if you go from froyo to gingerbread like upintheair said.
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[Q] Backup apps and contacts

First of all I should say I am a noob when it comes to this phone and Anroid in general...
So here is my silly question(s):
Currently the T-mobile G2 is rooted but is still running the T-mobile stock ROM
I do have a Full ROM BACKUP
Now I want to try a few ROMs for the phone (mainly to get the latest fixes etc) but i do not want to loose:
- Contacts
- Gmail/Facebook
- Games
- Apps
1. Is there any software that will back all these up and store them on SD so i can move it to PC?
2. Will this work if i have "App2Sd" installed and have some apps running off the SD card?

2 words
Titanium Backup
3 more words
pay for it
if you buy the premium version it will save you TONS of time with its one click restore....

3p4145 said:
First of all I should say I am a noob when it comes to this phone and Anroid in general...
So here is my silly question(s):
Currently the T-mobile G2 is rooted but is still running the T-mobile stock ROM
I do have a Full ROM BACKUP
Now I want to try a few ROMs for the phone (mainly to get the latest fixes etc) but i do not want to loose:
- Contacts
- Gmail/Facebook
- Games
- Apps
1. Is there any software that will back all these up and store them on SD so i can move it to PC?
2. Will this work if i have "App2Sd" installed and have some apps running off the SD card?
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If you have your account set to sync you won't lose contacts or Gmail, Facebook you can just redownload (all your apps will actually redownload when you boot into a new ROM) but for games (I'm assuming you mean saved games) then you would need a backup system.
Like the poster above said, Titanium Backup handles things well just be sure to only restore apps and data as the system files often differ from ROM to ROM
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Thank you guys!!
This is exactly what I was looking for )

[Q] New ROMs and Titanium Backup Pro restore apps/data

I'm pretty sure that this hasn't been covered specifically so I'm posting a new thread.
I backed up all my apps and data on a stock rooted Sprint 4.24.651.1, 2.3.3 ROM via TBU Pro. I also performed a backup of my current ROM with ROM Manager. I then installed Team Nocturnal _Shooter_RLS_2.3.(after, of course, all the recommended wipes and resets) When I went to restore my apps and data I wondered if some of the previous app versions (where both ROMs have same apps/diff versions) would hose things up. It did, I think. Maybe all that I needed to do was clear some app caches and reboot. Not sure, I couldn't get any of the HTC widgets to load but I did see in another thread that cache clearing may fix that. But other stuff was goofy after the restore too. It became buggy and horribly slow, so I think that there's more to it than just the HTC stuff. I wonder if something I restored and maybe shouldn't have hosed it up. What I'm wondering is if someone would be so kind as to scan down my app lists and tell me which apps and/or data that are obvious that I shouldn't restore? For example, this new ROM has a different dialer, it makes sense to me that I wouldn't restore that. Same with anything to do with Sense, since this particular ROM I believe has a newer version, but not sure. I am thinking that any time I install a different ROM this will be a consideration but maybe I have the wrong idea about the whole thing. I have attached 30 images captured (incl the Software info screen) of my app list in TBU.
Lastly, I'll add that since making the move to Android from WinMo about a year ago I am very glad I did it. I could not have possibly been able to learn and do the things (rooting, S-off, flashing ROMS) that I have done without XDA! You folks are brainiacs and I greatly admire what you all do. (blatant a**-kissing)Thank you, thank you!

You have to be very careful about what you restore using Titanium when you are moving from one ROM to another. I found this from personal experience (moving from Stock to Synergy RLS1 and then to MikG). There is some good info in the Titanium Backup Wiki.
The part that you need to be careful about is restoring system data that is incompatible with the newer system apps in your new ROM. Your best bet is to only restore the User Apps and their data. You can do this in Titanium by selecting Menu > Batch > Restore missing apps with data.
There is some system data that you can restore without getting into trouble (probably bookmarks, SMS Messages, Sprint Voicemail) but you are going to have to experiment. I restored my missing apps using the batch option and then went to the Backup/Restore screen to look at the System Apps and Data one by one to see if there was anything that I could restore. Sometimes I would restore some data that would cause a problem and I would have to Wipe that data (also in Titanium Backup/Restore screen) and move along. I know at least once I was forced to start fresh and Wipe and reflash the ROM.

gbweller said:
I'm pretty sure that this hasn't been covered specifically so I'm posting a new thread.
I backed up all my apps and data on a stock rooted Sprint 4.24.651.1, 2.3.3 ROM via TBU Pro. I also performed a backup of my current ROM with ROM Manager. I then installed Team Nocturnal _Shooter_RLS_2.3.(after, of course, all the recommended wipes and resets) When I went to restore my apps and data I wondered if some of the previous app versions (where both ROMs have same apps/diff versions) would hose things up. It did, I think. Maybe all that I needed to do was clear some app caches and reboot. Not sure, I couldn't get any of the HTC widgets to load but I did see in another thread that cache clearing may fix that. But other stuff was goofy after the restore too. It became buggy and horribly slow, so I think that there's more to it than just the HTC stuff. I wonder if something I restored and maybe shouldn't have hosed it up. What I'm wondering is if someone would be so kind as to scan down my app lists and tell me which apps and/or data that are obvious that I shouldn't restore? For example, this new ROM has a different dialer, it makes sense to me that I wouldn't restore that. Same with anything to do with Sense, since this particular ROM I believe has a newer version, but not sure. I am thinking that any time I install a different ROM this will be a consideration but maybe I have the wrong idea about the whole thing. I have attached 30 images captured (incl the Software info screen) of my app list in TBU.
Lastly, I'll add that since making the move to Android from WinMo about a year ago I am very glad I did it. I could not have possibly been able to learn and do the things (rooting, S-off, flashing ROMS) that I have done without XDA! You folks are brainiacs and I greatly admire what you all do. (blatant a**-kissing)Thank you, thank you!
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Yeah, I had a feeling that there would be conflicts like that before I even restored. I never thought to read the TBU wiki...thanks for that tip! It looks like I have a lot more homework to do before I flash again. I really have to decide if the time investment is really worth the return. There are so many cool ROMs out there but what a lot of B.S. sorting out what works and what doesn't. It is excruciating to have to read through 50+ posts following a ROM release to find out what you're in for. What would be super-cool is if someone was able to construct a spreadsheet of the most popular ROMs in a column with all of the popular features (4G, Wifi Tether, Mirroring, etc), kernel compatibility, Sense or no Sense, etc in a row at the top, with check marks indicating whether or not the feature works or is baked in. I'd pay to see that. Especially if it were linked to the downloads to the ROMs and kernels.
Thank you very much for the reply!

[Q] Quick way to re-install apps/settings after flashing new ROM

So I have only a little experience flashing ROMs but I am successfully on CM 10.0 at the moment and everything is working great.
The question I have is, for those people that are constantly flashing new roms, is there a quick and easy way to re-install all your apps and settings without having to do it one by one with every new rom?
I know you can have your contacts/calendar and such in google and I know Titanium Backup is awesome but it gives the occasional mess up when trying to restore some programs to a rom other then the one it was backed up from.
Am I missing another process here that thousands of people do every day to get their phone/apps back into a useable working order after flashing?

I use titanium backup and have never had an issue. only use it to restore user apps and user data never system apps or data, that's where the issues usually come from.
Also use a custom launcher and most of them have backup/restore options that put your home screens back quickly.
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