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What is the Desires screen made of? If it is a glass screen then theres no need to buy a screen protector. But if it is a hardened plastic then, yes. So anyone knows whats the screen made of?
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What is the Desires screen made of? If it is a glass screen then theres no need to buy a screen protector. But if it is a hardened plastic then, yes. So anyone knows whats the screen made of?
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Definatly glass, should be heat treated. I haven't bothered with a screen protector
If I were you, I'd get a screen protector anyway, just in case. Mine stayed about three weeks absolutely clean, but then two tiny scratches on my screen that I somehow got out of nowhere reminded me that if you convince yourself that the screen is unscratchable, you're wrong. Seriously, a cheap half-decent protector won't affect your screen or the colours, will be hardly noticable you won't have to treat the handset like a newborn baby, only for it to end up scratched anyway.
its glass. ask anyone who has cracked it and they'll tell you. It's not sapphire crystal though, just glass.
Firstly please check the link..
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
so..as u can see our Desire's screen glass is Gorilla glass confirmed only by gsmarena and i also checked other sites but none of them contain this spec.
so i'm kinda confused regarding this, coz i dont want to use my phone with plastic screen which protector worn out within few days and have to change over and over again..
so what is ur xperience using Desire without any screen protector?
Just NO. Yep, sure it doesn't get scratched by keys and knives, but if you keep it in your pocket thin and sharp dust particles can be deadly. A friend of mine tried to go without a screen protector, and after a month or so there were a few light scratches...guess what happens if you go on like that for a year or so. Also, the first time you go to the seaside you're screwed: so happened to my gf with her brand new ipod touch, which now has a big nice smile in the middle of the screen...dust/sand particles are really dangerous, even for gorilla glass, believe me.
Firstly a screen protector wont 'wear out' within a few days, unless you have finger nails like edward scissorhands then itll last for months before needing to be changed.. ive had my cheap protector on for 3 months already and its still as good as new.. not bad whan it was something like a quid for 6.. and when i do come to change it I know theres still a pristine screen underneath.
Secondly even if it is so called gorilla glass its not immune to getting scratched, isnt it best to have an extra layer that can get scratched before the glass below it does?
You just have to look at the state of some iphones to realise gorilla glass isnt all its cracked up to be
Absolutely no scratches
My Desire was one of the first delivered last year - and until today there is absolutely no scratches on the glass. And I wear the phone with me every day, it has fallen into the dust etc., etc. The metal frame has scratches, the metal plate around the cover of the camera. But not the front glass. I'm really extremely happy with the glass quality.
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My Desire was one of the first delivered last year - and until today there is absolutely no scratches on the glass. And I wear the phone with me every day, it has fallen into the dust etc., etc. The metal frame has scratches, the metal plate around the cover of the camera. But not the front glass. I'm really extremely happy with the glass quality.
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You might have been lucky there..ever tried to look at it under a very strong light? Micro scratches aren't very likely to be seen in normal use.
I scrached it with sand so easy and once it felt on flor and got deep and wide scraches on glass and small bumps on metal. When screen is off I can see scraches easy.
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I confirm: absolutely no scratches. NO. Not big, not micro. None. Niente. Nada. Nirwana. Gar Nix. Rien du tout.
And if they aren't noticeable under normal light what does it matter
My 1st desire arrived the day after orange put them on sale, so it was one of the 1st. After 2 weeks of keeping it in my suit pocket the screen had some nice scratches on it (probably from a lighter). So I would say all ways have a protector on it, in my case a Zagg which went on my 2nd desire, 1st one got sent back as it was playing up later to be found out it was due to using some power saving app, least the replacement arrived with no scratches and the zagg went straight on.
Someone should do this to their Desire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2EYnUGUti0
Until then, I do not believe this has gorilla glass.
peytral said:
Someone should do this to their Desire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2EYnUGUti0
Until then, I do not believe this has gorilla glass.
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omg!!!! thats brutal!!!
thanks all for helping me to determine weather should i use my desire with or without screen protector....
so the bottom line is our desire actually doesn't have gorilla glass screen and it is not advised from most of u that not to use without screen protector...
Well, tbh i don't know wether it's gorilla glass or not...what i do know about that kind of glass is that it offers a good resistance when you try to break it, and it's overall more durable, otherwise it's like any kind of scratch resistant glass. This said, there's plenty of vids on youtube showing gorilla glass getting scratched (like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimSyAIuDoI&feature=youtube_gdata_player), so why risking it, i'd say
I'm fairly certain its not Gorilla Glass since I've got a couple fairly big scratches through normal use.
glumardok said:
My Desire was one of the first delivered last year - and until today there is absolutely no scratches on the glass. And I wear the phone with me every day, it has fallen into the dust etc., etc. The metal frame has scratches, the metal plate around the cover of the camera. But not the front glass. I'm really extremely happy with the glass quality.
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Same here, I've been using it since april 2010 and there are no scratches!
vnvman said:
You might have been lucky there..ever tried to look at it under a very strong light? Micro scratches aren't very likely to be seen in normal use.
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Well, if the scratches are so small one cannot see them under normal conditions then I wouldn't care about them at all...
Philko said:
Well, if the scratches are so small one cannot see them under normal conditions then I wouldn't care about them at all...
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Well it still means that it can be scratched: if it falls face down on gravel you can be quite sure you'll get something noticeable
Also, maybe tiny scratches won't annoy you, but for sure they will affect screen durability...i mean it could crack more easily you know.
Hey man, i don't wanna be a ****, i just wanna say that all of the superduper hax glass powered devices i had or stumbled across in my long phone nerd career got scratched sooner or later...but hey, at the end of the story it's your baby, not mine
Also its kind of pot luck wether you get a good qualitly screen protector.
I bought mine for like £2 for 6 and they show scratches after a week
whereas my friends ones, which were also bought from ebay for a similar price do not
show one scratch in months, and hes a bmx rider and his phone goes through alot
more than mine. All his friends with iphones have cracked screens so its stronger than
that at least. Ill always use a screen protector anyway, gorilla glass or not.
people...google it. here is a link. my desire has no scratches at all, and i hate screen protectors. i like my phone pure - without anything on it. all the best
I cannot post links, so go to the corning gorilla glass and see the products
the desire definitely does not have gorilla glass. it is very odd that corning who makes gorilla glass says that the desire does have it though that is incorrect as htc has said it does not. i had my desire without a case for a few weeks and it has 2 micro scratches that can only be seen when you shine a light on it while the screen is off. i hate the feel of screen protectors so i just have a plastic case for it and i haven't seen any new scratches on it for over a year.
er...just buy a case, no screen protectors needed. My Desire is 12 months old and not a mark on it. Case I use hardly adds any bulk whatsoever.
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...&searchstring=htc+desire+case&urlrefer=search
When I first got my DROID2, the nice Verizon lady tried to sell me some screen protectors. It was like $10 for 5 or something like that, and the Verizon people put it on without any bubbles or anything. The only complaint I have is that the screen picture quality has gone down.
My question is, how durable is the screen without one? Is it easily scratchable? I'd sure like to take it off, but can't stand to have a scratched screen.
How often do you drop your phone?
A better question would be how often do you replace the screen protector? If the protector is still in good shape (they scratch hella easy) then take it off, the glass is 100x more durable than the protector. I had a screen protector on my Voyager, and when I removed it I promised I would never use one again... the screen just looks and feels better without it.
I have about 2 scratches on the protector. One is about a cm long and the other is about 2 inches, but they are light scratches. I have never replaced it.
Also, isn't the Voyager screen plastic, while the D2 screen is glass? Does that make a difference?
mehappyz said:
When I first got my DROID2, the nice Verizon lady tried to sell me some screen protectors. It was like $10 for 5 or something like that, and the Verizon people put it on without any bubbles or anything. The only complaint I have is that the screen picture quality has gone down.
My question is, how durable is the screen without one? Is it easily scratchable? I'd sure like to take it off, but can't stand to have a scratched screen.
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I've had my D2 for over a year without a screen protector. It has zero scratches. Gorilla Glass is awesome stuff.
^This. You can't scratch this screen with a knife. I have dropped it face down on pavement and had it skid, nothing. My girl uses a protector and to me it seems like it's more difficult to use the touch screen with.
I also had a clear gloss protector on my Voyager. When I was ordering the D2 online I took a knife to the Voyager screen and couldn't scratch it, so at the time it saved me 12 bucks.
so my deep scratch must be something else
I took a "generic" screen protector, and trimmed it to fit my inspire. I probably didn't need to, but I had the screen protectors already, and figured it couldn't hurt anything.. My phone is in my pocket all day, and who knows what I throw in that pocket!
I installed a generic one, it helped with scratches and specially with fingerprints
I am very rough on phones . Another layer of protection to absorb shock and scratching can hurt anything . I use a generic screen protector and change it when it starts looking bad .
need to know if i should purchase a screen protector.
is the touch screen made out of gorilla glass?
I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
I'm 99% positive it is...
...but sand can still scratch GorillaGlass
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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It's the brand-name for hardened glass that everybody knows about. Like all brands of tissue are "Kleenex" now.
Even though most products do indeed use Gorilla Glass brand hardened glass even if they didn't I doubt anything ships with the poorly thought out glass and plastic that PDA touch screens of yore had on them.
RIP iPaq and Casiopea
I'd just buy this screen protector (it's only $5).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057RMT3C
But looking at the gorilla glass website, I noticed that the overseas GSII is on the list, but not the US varients (which I'd assume does have gorilla glass.)
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
Oops, screen protector is only $5.
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
Waste of a beatuiful screen getting a protector. Gorilla Glass holds up to anything a protector would like the last post says.
Sprint's Epic 4G Touch guide was leaked a couple weeks back and it said it's got Gorilla Glass.
Save money and enjoy your awesome screen the way it was intended! My original epic got dropped sooo many times on hard floors, cement, etc. Not a single scratch on it. Even accidently put my keys in the same pocket on accidnet a few times. Nothing!
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I still don't understand what the obsession is with gorilla glass.
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I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch. that being said I tend to have my keys in the same pocket thus wanting to prevent scratches.
As other poster stated, i rather not have a screen protector since it makes display, sensitivity, ect... crappier.
If it is indeed gorilla glass then no need for screen protector, if not i will buy one to protect the phone.
i'm not asking because i'm afraid of screen getting cracked, i know gorilla glass is just as easy for regular glass to crack. people have a misconception that gorillas glass does not crack. it's just scratch resistant and nothing else.
Kcyen18 said:
I've seen my friend attempt to scratch the surface of his phone with his keys as hard as he can and still did not scratch.
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Have him try that with sand...sure, the screen protector is even less resistant to sand but at least it's a barrier.
...that said I always use screen protectors. I don't know what kind of screen protectors everyone is using that muddys or dulls the screen. There may be a nearly imperceptible level of sensitivity lost, but, my phones have always been as bright clear and sensitive as I could imagine I would ever need them to be, often more and I've never noticed a difference with the screen protector off.
Anyone not putting on a screen protector?
I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
What kind of phone?
Leegalaxy said:
I have never used a screen protector. My screen is perfect and I've had it for almost a year!
GT-I9000. CM7.
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I do love the screen on this phone without the screen protection but i am still putting one on. I tried using nothing with one of my epics and was extremely careful with it but still managed to get a nice big scratch right in the middle. I don't even know how it happened. I plan on having this phone for a while and want to keep it in good condition.
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I have dropped my OG Epic, carried out in my pocket, never had a protector and the only thing that scratched was the frame.
Live the naked feel of my screen.
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I might go naked for a bit
TurboFool said:
I wouldn't bother with a screen protector. They just make the display look muddier, reduce sensitivity, and the glass used (which I'm pretty confident is Gorilla Glass) can stand up to essentially everything that the screen protector would protect against.
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I completely agree, never had one for my Evo 4g and I had that since launch.
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I bought the $15 pack of screen protectors today with the phone and the guy put it on for me.. it adds a slight haze to the screen which sucks and I think I may pull it off later and see if I notice the sensitivity being any better and if the screen looks that much greater to me.. normally I like my phone naked.. but my last phone.. the galaxy s 4g for tmobile.. within a week I had little light scratches on it..like my keys hit the screen in the middle in my pocket.. which always slightly bothered me.
Screw it, I'm naked loving every minute of it
I have used with and without. I notice that it is harder to play games that require constant touch WITHOUT a protector. I love the feeling of the bare glass as well but I also like to play games.
Specifically: Gun Bros Pocket Legends, Legends Arcana.. any that require lots of constant touch.
Also, you do Not want to chance getting a 2$ screen protector from someplace like Ebay... I would recommend something of a bit higher quality..
I used a protector from Monoprice on the wife's Thunderbolt and you cant tell its on there. That one Was cheap but I also trust Monoprice supplies.
Besides, why even CHANCE taking damage on your investment? We do so much with these things, why chance hurting our enjoyment of them.
I'm not...never used one on the og epic with gorilla glass...won't use one on this one....I will however keep it in a pocket by itself
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Anyone not putting on a screen protector?
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I bought the one from the sprint store for $12 and change.Still get the premier discount for now.You get 3 2 normal ones and a uv one.I had him out the uv one on and i do not even see it nor feel it is there.I like it.I rather have the protection then to get this thing pregnant going naked and have scratches down the road.
I'm just curious if anyone has removed it and it is better with no issues. I didn't get the extra one in the box and the one on there already has a hairline scratch that is annoying me, I've never had a screen protector on any smartphone before....
i have removed it and no the sony logo doesnt peel off like on the z, i have applied IQ screen protector and it is way better int terms of scratches and fingerprint smudges.
sirsmokey said:
i have removed it and no the sony logo doesnt peel off like on the z, i have applied IQ screen protector and it is way better int terms of scratches and fingerprint smudges.
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Thanks, I'll check into that screen protector. I was curious too if anyone has left it off (without another one) and had any issues - I've read some people saying it has no oleophobic coating so gets a lot of fingerprints. And so I read about a product called Fusso Smartphone http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-TM-necessary/dp/B008HVBU9O and am thinking maybe this can be used? Or is it good by itself after removing screen protector
I would only suggest that u use a screen protector made specifically for your phone brand and model type.
Should you get a protector ? only you can decide what kind of person you are and how to treat things you purchase.
but in my instance
I took my OEM screen protector off a day earlier than when the new one was to arrive. that was a long day, constantly had to remind my self to be careful of where I put my phone. I am quite pleased with IQ s screen protector
sirsmokey said:
i have removed it and no the sony logo doesnt peel off like on the z, i have applied IQ screen protector and it is way better int terms of scratches and fingerprint smudges.
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it mean sony logo still there even i remove the screen protector ?
yes it is still there. on the xperia z it does come off
keith777 said:
I'm just curious if anyone has removed it and it is better with no issues. I didn't get the extra one in the box and the one on there already has a hairline scratch that is annoying me, I've never had a screen protector on any smartphone before....
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The screen film that comes stock on the Xperia ZL (as well as the Z) is not a screen protector...it is a film (protector) to help keep the glass from shattering. I have heard and seen the video where the kid decides to remove this level of protection. Why? Because he is crazy. I purchased the Skinomi Tech Skin screen protector (wet application) and installed it right over the stock film and it works beautifully. No degradation of the HD screen quality nor sensitivity of touch. Now, I have both a screen protector on top of the film to protect the screen from shattering as originally shipped from Sony.
I am not sure of the tempered nature of the Sony screens. Definitely not Gorilla Glass 1 or 2 but, I have heard it is from an Asian company that makes similar screens to Gorilla Glass (I thing it is called Dragontrail). I guess you could argue if the screen on the ZL was of the Gorilla Glass quality or better, the point would be mute, and no screen or shatter film protection would be necessary.
Good quality screen protector is a small investment to protect such a beautiful phone.
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The screen film that comes stock on the Xperia ZL (as well as the Z) is not a screen protector...it is a film (protector) to help keep the glass from shattering. I have heard and seen the video where the kid decides to remove this level of protection. Why? Because he is crazy. I purchased the Skinomi Tech Skin screen protector (wet application) and installed it right over the stock film and it works beautifully. No degradation of the HD screen quality nor sensitivity of touch. Now, I have both a screen protector on top of the film to protect the screen from shattering as originally shipped from Sony.
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Sorry, but you are incorrect. It is a screen protector. In Japan, it is really common practice to sell phones with factory/service installed screen protector, because it saves person from trouble of trying to apply protector without dust getting under it, also adhesive could be used for more robust installation. So when somebody scratches theirs, they just pop in the service to get protector replaced instead of replacing whole screen - it saves company & user lot of costs.
This film protects glass from shattering to extent, but no more than any screen protector does. Its pointless to install second protector on top of it, this will only reduce backlight brightness & sensitivity (even if slightly).
Whatever it is, it sucks. I've never had a screen protector before, the glass feels way better to me, and probably looks a little better. The thing that comes on here scratches so easy - all I ever do it set it down screen up or put it in my pocket with nothing else in that pocket. Not to mention the lint it attracts..
I ordered the Fusso smartphone stuff for applying an oleophobic coating, seems to have gotten mostly good reviews, when I get it i'm removing this screen protector. I'll post results when i'm done..
So I removed the screen protector, wasn't hard at all just had to use a pin to get it started. To me, the glass feels way better and looks better. I applied the Fusso smartphone for adding an oleophobic coating last night. So far so good, after being on the phone a little bit this morning I saw some fingerprints and just used my shirt to wipe them off and they came right off - I guess the oleophobic coating is working, although it didn't seem bad even before I put it on the glass. Sony should really abandon the practice of putting a screen protector on new phones ( i don't think anyone else does), maybe include it, but this feels way better to me without it.
keith777 said:
So I removed the screen protector, wasn't hard at all just had to use a pin to get it started. To me, the glass feels way better and looks better. I applied the Fusso smartphone for adding an oleophobic coating last night. So far so good, after being on the phone a little bit this morning I saw some fingerprints and just used my shirt to wipe them off and they came right off - I guess the oleophobic coating is working, although it didn't seem bad even before I put it on the glass. Sony should really abandon the practice of putting a screen protector on new phones ( i don't think anyone else does), maybe include it, but this feels way better to me without it.
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So... Sony logo really doesn't come off with the screen protector right? Good to know.
A question: Is the screen really scratch resistant? Searched for some videos and didn't find any screen scratch test, etc. I know you're not going to scratch your screen just to test it, but, do you leave it with keys, coins...? Would be glad to know if gets scratched easily or not. And when you take off the screen protector, is there any hard to remove glue on the screen?
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So... Sony logo really doesn't come off with the screen protector right? Good to know.
A question: Is the screen really scratch resistant? Searched for some videos and didn't find any screen scratch test, etc. I know you're not going to scratch your screen just to test it, but, do you leave it with keys, coins...? Would be glad to know if gets scratched easily or not. And when you take off the screen protector, is there any hard to remove glue on the screen?
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What do you mean by "really scratch resistant"? Do you mean scratch-proof? Because its not, and there is no such thing as scratch-proof material. If you find something harder than glass, you can scratch it. Ordinary sand is the best example.
If you carry phone in pocket with keys (or in jeans pocket with studs which could contact screen when you move it from/to pocket), I recommend using screen protector.
To remove tackiness which could be left from original one, just use some alcohol to clean it.