[Q] What is safe to restore after flashing a _new_ rom? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Pretty new to flashing roms and trying to get it right...
So I'm going from MikFroyo4.5 to Vaelpak 3.2. Is it safe to try to restore my "home" pages using MyBackupRoot? I am going to use it to restore my texts, call log, etc. I know not to do system settings... Also, I backed up only the user apps with Titanium Pro. Advice appreciated!

You can backup all your apps and data, and then restore them. Also you launcher settings. When you restore on you new rom, restore apps and data, but NOT system settings, may get FCs. You're good to go.

I read something about only restoring user apps, not system apps. So I only backed up the user apps. So launcher settings is OK to restore? Is it a problem if I try to do that when I am going to an AOSP rom and my backup was from a sense based rom?

You can't restore launcher settings from sense, since that's not your launcher anymore.

No one said he wasn't using a launcher. I said it just in case.

teh roxxorz said:
No one said he wasn't using a launcher. I said it just in case.
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Yeah, I wasn't going against anything you said, just saying in case he wasn't using a launcher and was trying to switch to aosp from sense, can't restore homescreen setups.

Well in that case, that's correct. But I hope he was using a launcher.

Well, in this case I'm going from one sense based rom MikFroyo to another Vaelpak. But I'm not sure what launcher Vaelpak comes with, and not sure if I should try to restore my home screens or not. I think Vaelpak comes with LauncherPro and ADW. So is that "instead of" the sense launcher? And does that mean I should not try to restore my home/launcher/widgets? Sorry about being confused but I'm just not quite speaking the language yet...

You're fine. Just do everything I said earlier, but no need to worry about the restoring launcher settings, since you didn't have one, and you'll be set, and no, don't restore home screen settings.

VaelPak is awesome. You will enjoy it.

teh roxxorz said:
You're fine. Just do everything I said earlier, but no need to worry about the restoring launcher settings, since you didn't have one, and you'll be set, and no, don't restore home screen settings.
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OK, so here's are some really basic questions...
Does sense come with it's own launcher? and are the "home pages" part of the "launcher"?
I guess when I use ADW or LauncherPro I'm not sure what I'm replacing / not using from the original Sense software... lol

rdmpe said:
OK, so here's are some really basic questions...
Does sense come with it's own launcher? and are the "home pages" part of the "launcher"?
I guess when I use ADW or LauncherPro I'm not sure what I'm replacing / not using from the original Sense software... lol
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Well, sense is basically its own launcher, the plain stock htc sense. You get the number of panels, and the 2 buttons at the bottom. With ADW, launcher pro, ect, you can customize your docks, icons, backgrounds for the launcher, gives you more customization.
I uploaded a pick of my home screen so you can see the launcher, with custom icons. I'm using launcher pro. The second is using the cube transition.

So what would happen if I tried to restore my "home screens" using MyBackupRoot? Would it hose the phone up?

Not really, you just may get some force closes, and to the worse extent a bootloop.

Well, I hate to set it all up from scratch again, major PITA but I guess I'll do that. I could do a nandroid then restore the home screens and if it's bad, go back to the nandroid...
This is the first I've used Titanium Pro, worked great and was fast.

rdmpe said:
Well, I hate to set it all up from scratch again, major PITA but I guess I'll do that. I could do a nandroid then restore the home screens and if it's bad, go back to the nandroid...
This is the first I've used Titanium Pro, worked great and was fast.
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True, but you need to do it to get more comfortable, and yea, the pro version is a lot faster, and you won't have to restore apps one by one when you restore.

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LauncherPro

I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
tmac said:
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
Davwf26 said:
I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
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That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
michaelvibe said:
That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
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Already rooted and running fresh. And apparently this came with the most recent fresh update, but had no idea out to try it out! So thanks! This is exactly what i needed.
disabling sense and using the stock launcher was the only way to get my computer to see my phone. i tried launcher pro but my comp will not see my phone now, very very frustrating.
Neotelos_com said:
Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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Really?
I've been in root land so I haven't used it and I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't BLOCK other launchers, I think it just doesn't include the 2.1 AOSP launcher "Launcher 2."
As far as the system cares, your home screen is just an app like a browser or music app, it is just a matter of disabling which one is set as default. This can be done in the applications menu via the method described above, or you may find the application "Home Switcher" useful if you like to try out different home screen launchers?
I certainly could be wrong, but I would be surprised if they blocked the ability to turn off sense as the default.
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
tmac said:
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Why? What does rooting, or removing Sense, have to do with using an alternative launcher? Take your time, be specific.
Neotelos_com said:
Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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No, the new OTA removes the stock Launcher2. It doesn't block anything.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
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Wrong. You can either use the Force Close trick to get Sense to close, or you can just grab Home Switcher from the Market and use that to close Sense.
DraginMagik said:
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
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I doubt it either, but wit the stock launcher as default my comp saw my phone n that was the only way, wouldnt work wit sense. Wit the new update, they removed the launcher so i tried launcher pro as default n it didnt work. But the weird thing is that my computer at work sees my phone wit no problem, so it must be something within my comp that i cant seem to figure out. n my comp is fully updated n drivers are all up to date so its weird.
I just loaded launcher pro last night. Took me a while to figure it out too as it is NOT in the apps and there are NO instructions.
Is it just me...or is there some conspiracy in Android land to NEVER HAVE ANY INSTRUCTIONS!!!!!!!!
grrrr
Anyway...somehow one time I tapped the home button on phone and it popped up with a window that asked which one I wanted to use. No idea how I got it, but there it was. It had stock android, launcher, and sense listed. (I am still pre-ota). I have played around with all three.
However...honestly...I found launcher to be a complete slow tortoise! Seriously. Everyone hatin on Sense and Launcher was the slowest thing I have ever seen. And I hadn't even added any apps to it. Not sure I like it at all.
Only cool bit is the home screen rotation...which is what I was looking for. I should go leave comments on this....
LauncherPro is a speed demon and is great to use (been doing so since I found out about it).
I have no idea why it would be slow for you at all.
Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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Be sure to clean slate your HTC Sense Launcher. I am running EVOlution V9 now, so can't remember exactly where the option is; but it's there somewhere. I installed Launcher Pro on my Stock ROM yesterday before rooting and loved it. Everything worked great once I deleted everything off of my HTC Sense Launcher and set Launcher Pro to default. Running it on Froyo now as well.
thorpe24 said:
Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
sablesurfer said:
You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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Open Sense again. I think if you hit menu, something like "Scenes" or similar will appear. Select that and select "Clean Slate." That should clear your Sense homescreen.
Then try Launcher Pro again.

Which is the better kernel?

Faux or Bullet included with Juggs 4.1? If you have a preference, tell please me why...
I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.
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I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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Hi Funziebear, Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
tri4life said:
You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.
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Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.
Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!
Rekzer said:
Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!
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Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
FSUSeminole said:
Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.
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Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.
Which of the fauxs out used..I see 2.
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tri4life said:
Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.
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Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?
Im using the 006r and havent had an issue it runs quick and smooth and battery is so far better than bullets , i use my phone a lot so better battery is a must the way apps open so fast on this is just a plus for me
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If adding this link isnt allowed lmk
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Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?
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Regarding the launcher, its all about simplicity for me. Adw is just as quick and go launcher ( in my opinion ). Also everything I needed adw takes care of. For the most part I would say they are equal competitors, but I just don't need all the extra options or features that Go Launcher provides. But yes I used Go Launcher Ex and even recommend it to my friends. Keep in mind you can do the same backup with it and restore just like ADW. Oh, but one difference I believe is that Go Launcher stores the backups in a separate file and folder as its app. So using titanium wont back that up. It will just stay on your sd card or internal. Doing the normal wipes to install a new ROM wont remove it, but of course a format will. Just a heads up, and also I haven't used Go Launcher in over a month so they probably pushed out a lot of updates and changed that feature.
About Titanium backup. You will have to have both the TBU.apk and the TBUpro.apk to install. The pro key is installed after, else you will have to wipe TB's cache from application settings. Also, if the ROM does not come with a file manager app on it by default then you will have to push with adb the .apks over. Also I think you can just copy/paste them into the app folder as well.
edit- again, I can give you my exact steps when I get home tonight. Just typing quite fast here at work.
FSUSeminole said:
Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
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Im using 0.0.7, its the one that comes with the rom Dewizzed. I think from 0.0.6 to 7 it just changes from a tmobile boot image to a custom one. I tried 0.0.6u with Beastmod, and it boot looped, im not sure if it had issues with beastmod or what, and ended up using DeWizzed as my rom after that instead which i think is 0.0.7r.
Im using the original modem, as im a Telus user(no wifi calling here).
I believe both kernels have most of the same features, Bullet may have more governors IIRC.
I just did a battery calibration starting yesterday actually and im at 20% after 1 day 14 hours. Not heavy usage, but i find while i use was using it there wasnt much drain.
And as i said, its SO smooth.
"I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium" ... Great idea.
I'm saving Titanium Backup (com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-1) and ROM Manager (com.koushikdutta.rommanager-1) in a folder so that I can reinstall them quick without having to log in and grab them from the Google Market. Good thinkin'
u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different
ugotproblemz said:
u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different
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What he said. Each device is different. There is no best just best for you.
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[Q] Have any of you deleted the stock Launcher for whatever ROM and use another one?

Was using [ROM]DARKSIDE-Dewizzed-V2.5.2 [1/27/2012] and i got rid of the stock launcher in favor of GO Launcher and I deleted the stock SMS/MMS for GO SMS.
everything worked fine.....nice and smooth.
But I tried [ROM] Juggernaut v4.1 [Vultures Edition][Team Kang][12.27.2011] and did the same thing.....It runs slow and not smooth anymore...
oh yeah...I used root Explorer to delete the stock apps...
Have any of you done this type of thing???
You don't need to delete anything for future reference. Just hit the use as default.
I never deleted key stock apps like launcher, browser, contact, messaging, etc
Because I had a bad experience with my Old G1 that my 3rd party launcher (launcher pro, go launcher) keep fore closing and couldn't use my phone. In the end i had to flash another rom and lost all my data
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You don't need to delete anything for future reference. Just hit the use as default.
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-__- I knew that much......
peconaut said:
I never deleted key stock apps like launcher, browser, contact, messaging, etc
Because I had a bad experience with my Old G1 that my 3rd party launcher (launcher pro, go launcher) keep fore closing and couldn't use my phone. In the end i had to flash another rom and lost all my data
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Oh ok...thanks for the input.
A safer option is to freeze them thru titanium backup. They arent using up any battery in the backround and you can defrost them if you ever need them.
GreggoryD502 said:
A safer option is to freeze them thru titanium backup. They arent using up any battery in the backround and you can defrost them if you ever need them.
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THANKS!!! i didnt know about that option. I will try it most def.....
No problem!!

[Q] Widgets Dissapearing after reboot, regular launcher, no root

I am completely stock and I have never rooted my phone or done anything other than use Go Launcher Ex up until a month ago. I recently discovered that I don't have to use the TWLauncher but that I can in fact use the regular Launcher on my Epic 4g Touch. So I uninstalled Go Launcher and started using the regular launcher (I'm on FI27 by the way).
The problem is all of my widgets dissapear off of my home screen after each and every reboot (and yes, I wait for Media scanning to complete. Still nothing). This is true for stock widgets and 3rd party widgets. The only issue I've found like this in my Google searches are people that had their apps/widgets moved to their SD card. Mine are not. I'm completely stumped. I really don't want to use the TW launcher and as much as I like the flexibility of Go Launcher EX I really really like the smoothnes and simplicity of the standard launcher and would hate to have to go back either of the other ones.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to do a wipe simply because I am really lazy and don't want to have to reinstall my apps again, but if you think that is necassary please recommend the best way to make the app download and reinstallation as quick as possible for my lazy behind.
Thanks!
App Backup & Restore from play store will backup the apps but not data. There are similar apps for backing up sms and call logs too.
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App Backup & Restore from play store will backup the apps but not data. There are similar apps for backing up sms and call logs too.
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So I'm guessing from your reply that you either A: Have not heard of this issue and therefore do not know of a fix or B: You have heard of it and the fix is to restore my device.
I'll give it another day or two to see if anyone else has come across this and found a fix but I guess I'm gonna have to try a wipe. I just hope that works.
Thank you for your suggestions sir and I will start researching further to try and make my restore as fast as possible.

[Solved]Theme / Home Screen Backup

Alright, I couldn't find anything on Google, so I'll give you guys a shot
Does anybody know how to back up their home screen icon layout and / or current theme? Is there a way to do it on Titanium Backup?
Any help would be awesome, thanks!
Anonaru said:
Does anybody know how to back up their home screen icon layout and / or current theme? Is there a way to do it on Titanium Backup?
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I've never done it myself, but I've read of folks backing up (and succesfully restoring) Home screen using Titanium.
Not sure, but I think the system app "Sense Home (DESKTOP)" is what you would want to backup (for Sense ROM, obviously).
I personally try to avoid restoring system apps, as they may cause issues if you are going between ROMs with significant differences. I just restore my home screen setup manually, which doesn't take much time. But I suppose how much time that takes may vary by user, if you have a lot of home screen panels, widgets, etc.
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I've never done it myself, but I've read of folks backing up (and succesfully restoring) Home screen using Titanium.
Not sure, but I think the system app "Sense Home (DESKTOP)" is what you would want to backup (for Sense ROM, obviously).
I personally try to avoid restoring system apps, as they may cause issues if you are going between ROMs with significant differences. I just restore my home screen setup manually, which doesn't take much time. But I suppose how much time that takes may vary by user, if you have a lot of home screen panels, widgets, etc.
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Yep! It seems like backing up just the app data for Sense Home (DESKTOP) carries over your desktop configuration-- it doesn't appear to bug anything out, though I'm not too sure attempting to restore the app too would do anything good
Figured this out on my own while on my trip, but I appreciate the information, thanks!

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